the problem with VCHA (A2K Finale Discussion)

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@revechae
@revechae 9 ай бұрын
i honestly have no problems with this lineup. i do think gina or crisyina should be here instead of kendall but im not gonna hate kendall or jyp for this. the girls did well
@KDAx05
@KDAx05 9 ай бұрын
It’s a very boring lineup without Cristina and Gina. No diversity, weak rap line, & 2 members are already disliked. I’m actually happy they didn’t debut because their potential songs sound terrible. Edit: I love Camila, Lexus, & Savanna!
@amethystcrystal5799
@amethystcrystal5799 9 ай бұрын
​@@KDAx05hater
@KDAx05
@KDAx05 9 ай бұрын
@@amethystcrystal5799 They would need to have something I want in order for me to hate them. I just simply don’t see it working out long-term.
@wonder_mckay
@wonder_mckay 9 ай бұрын
I don't really like Kendall, and I def prefer Gina and Cristina but I have to admit Kendall has more stage presence than Gina and Cristina
@phyre8398
@phyre8398 9 ай бұрын
@@KDAx05i thought so too. It's a new girl group from America so they should pick with those strong vocals and that's why I was disappointed when Kendall was picked over Gina. I'm a YG stan and finally I thought I can stan someone from JYP because I have different taste in music but the final results made me change my mind. Anyways, congrats to the girls especially to Camilla and Lexi who are my faves! I'm not gonna support but I wish them all the best! 💖🩷
@eustass4491
@eustass4491 9 ай бұрын
I think one problem with this lineup is that the American gp like mature concepts, this wouldn’t be a problem but then you realize that this group literally CANT do those type of concepts because of kaylee’s age
@alyssageline293
@alyssageline293 9 ай бұрын
oml ur so right 😭 but i mean it was bound to be this way bc if gina wouldve been in the group its the same case noo
@Everythingz127
@Everythingz127 9 ай бұрын
Jyp forgot this ain't The kpop Market
@dae_da21
@dae_da21 9 ай бұрын
Also it’s (unfortunately) normal to debut minors in kpop, but in America people don’t listen to kids/teenagers unless they’re that age themselves. So I don’t think they’ll be popular…
@illunamate_
@illunamate_ 9 ай бұрын
I think they’ll be marketed more to a teenage audience
@sailorkeyblader
@sailorkeyblader 9 ай бұрын
This is what I've been saying on my professional page but I got nearly crucified for it. American and other western Audiences especially teenagers don't like cute music. It's not 2012 with Miss Movin On by 5th Harmony.. We're use to sounds like FLO's Fly Girl, Sweet Melody by Little Mix, Heated by Beyonce or Taylor, Ariana, Olivia. We do sexy and empowering music with more mature concepts. The name could be better because Western audiences would be stumbling how to say it. A name like Exodus or something would have worked. Anyway the point is this team has a lot of work to convince both Korean and western markets that they belong.
@theflawless8638
@theflawless8638 9 ай бұрын
Those who did not make it are destined to pursue different paths. Rejection should not be seen as something negative. It paves the way for new opportunities.
@itzzahh0998
@itzzahh0998 9 ай бұрын
💯% agree with you. It is what it is. We can't have all the 8 contestant to be in the group because of the consideration of all the trainers, staff, artist, etc. It's not one person's choice but all the judges.
@tsuyuasui7297
@tsuyuasui7297 9 ай бұрын
​@@itzzahh0998we could've tho, just like straykids
@ch9na
@ch9na 9 ай бұрын
I dont know why, but Cristina or Gina or even both should've been apart of the group. There was no reason for there only to be 6. No it just feels like there's a whole in the group, the chemistry seems off like there's something missing. Despite that, I hope they had a good debut.
@sanainthesky
@sanainthesky 9 ай бұрын
Very true everytime I look at the group it just feels like their missing some girls and missing the bond between them
@tosinojo7310
@tosinojo7310 9 ай бұрын
its like they lost their soul
@tsuyuasui7297
@tsuyuasui7297 9 ай бұрын
That is bc christina and Gina were one of the contestants with thee most charisma, both of them alongside yuna gave huge stan attractor vibes
@1am2w0k3
@1am2w0k3 9 ай бұрын
I feel you so much on that. We were able to see the beautiful friendship between Camila and Christina, and how supportive they were of each other. Both of them were in college and had the same maturity level/bonding. Lexus and Gina also had a cute friendship with each other, those two were always giggling with each other. Gina behind the scenes was fun to watch. Because of their journey, Christina and Gina made a strong impact during the show. I sentimentally wish all 8 debuted. And can't get over how they didn't. I wonder if it's my own feeling of emptiness (being used to seeing all 8 and now their gone) or if these girls still feel it too. Idk. I just know I feel the same exact way you feel.
@9cloudrachel207
@9cloudrachel207 9 ай бұрын
the group is 6 instead of 8 because JYP did not want Gina or Christina to debut. people need to accept that, there was a reason he didn't choose them.
@butterfliesonmymind705
@butterfliesonmymind705 9 ай бұрын
I find it weird how JYP wanted to create an american girl group but still made the group so that it would only catch the attention of korean fans. They do not cater to the american audience AT ALL
@angelsis2222
@angelsis2222 9 ай бұрын
So true. Kendall was literally chosen because she has the 'cute' face that korean ppl love. She has no talent.
@mjan3906
@mjan3906 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, in the part when they're deciding the final members, he says something along the lines of "this is what Koreans are looking for" which is not necessarily what Americans/western audience is looking for, so I'm not sure why he said that???
@RIQS-f8u
@RIQS-f8u 9 ай бұрын
​@@mjan3906he means by korean evaluation criteria which is this group is CONFUSING 😂, because some say they're not kpop group and not American pop group too, even Knetz itself saying they're can't be considered as Kpop, they're not Kpop, so what are they? ngl this is confusing 😂😂
@RIQS-f8u
@RIQS-f8u 9 ай бұрын
@bizu775 yup, jyp lack of creativity and vision 🤦
@tsuyuasui7297
@tsuyuasui7297 9 ай бұрын
​@@RIQS-f8uno, the JYPE staff meant that kendall would appeal more to the korean public
@kpopmood_
@kpopmood_ 9 ай бұрын
I was so mad when JYP praised Kendall’s vocals and called it “perfect” it is now so obvious lol, bfr Christina and Gina both deserved way more to debut + I hope Yuna was there too 😭
@monki6304
@monki6304 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think Kendall is a hotshot either but no way u shit on her skills but want Yuna there too
@kpopmood_
@kpopmood_ 9 ай бұрын
@@monki6304 well, I guess I was biased, sorry.
@onceuponamelody
@onceuponamelody 9 ай бұрын
Her singing is so obviously auto tuned, but the rest of her skills were above Yuna's. But I loved Yuna's personality way more for sure.
@SacredSacral
@SacredSacral 9 ай бұрын
@@kpopmood_ You don't have to apologize, shit on her skills as you please!
@ngewskakak
@ngewskakak 9 ай бұрын
yuna was always rubbing her fingers. she was also always ahead of the beat when dancing and singing. what do you expect from yuna, at least for now? i love yuna but she's not ready yet to become an idol
@mercibeau
@mercibeau 9 ай бұрын
i have to agree about the contestants that tied them being eliminated really did change the group’s dynamic. i must admit it is really weird seeing camila without cristina. everyone knows those two were besties. and gina was even ranked as most favorited by the other members. but i think it’ll just take some time. jyp honestly should’ve just debuted them as an 8 member group instead of 6. also, for a global girl group, to have their debut stage on kbs and not like an american show like good morning america or something is really odd. but i guess they’re trying to build their korean fanbase to ultimately have a stepping stone into the US. but its just so weird
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665 9 ай бұрын
Debuting all 8 would just be a slap to the face for mischa
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 9 ай бұрын
@@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665 8 here means excluding Yuna and Mischa. But they do need more time to train
@adorkable7196
@adorkable7196 9 ай бұрын
@@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665 her LITERALLY said that they shouldnt compete against each other cause there is no fixed number of members to debut and they could ALL debut
@tsuyuasui7297
@tsuyuasui7297 9 ай бұрын
​@@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665how so?
@oscaraguayo8065
@oscaraguayo8065 9 ай бұрын
I wish they would have just debuted all 8 or atleast 7 cause I agree it feels like there’s something missing for sure
@terreplowell4691
@terreplowell4691 9 ай бұрын
I don't think Kendall has strong, stable vocals as JY Park makes it out to be (it's a bit shaky), but she's not the worst singer. Fans hating on Kendall need to chill out though. I think Kendall's strong suit is definitely her stage presence with powerful, eye-catching facial expressions for sure! I believe it could have been all 8 girls though (especially seeing how much Christina improved and how talented our girl Gina is!)
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 9 ай бұрын
YESSS that's her charm! And me too, I wish they all debuted
@CLKuo-dm3yj
@CLKuo-dm3yj 9 ай бұрын
@@wanishuk6489 +1
@craerae
@craerae 9 ай бұрын
Then jyp would still get hate for getting only yuna out. People are never satisfied. The current line up is not just jyp's idea.. its their entire team/staffs. The criteria was unorthodox from the beginning.. and its their company so they picked whom they like. I dont understand whats the fuss about. I knew from the beginning yuna is out. Christina or savanna one of them was out. I thought gina was in. But again its their company.
@darklightss_
@darklightss_ 9 ай бұрын
@@craeraeyeah yuna was always lacking and it always took her a bit to learn compared to the others and atp in the game u gotta be fast and know what you’re doing no hate to yuna this is what i saw, its js sad she improved too late
@StanChunghaOrGoHome
@StanChunghaOrGoHome 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I think considering he wasn’t going for an odd numbered group, he could’ve just debuted all 8.
@raisaakter7728
@raisaakter7728 9 ай бұрын
I personally think the group feels like hollow. Like there is something missing. I felt like Christina and Gina would have added another charisma to the group. But it is what it is now.The group is already formed. I hope the others who were not selected will shine on the path they will take.
@emii36363
@emii36363 9 ай бұрын
Christina has the funniest personality of all of them. And I’m convinced it’s because she’s from Atlanta 😂
@moniqueedwards4050
@moniqueedwards4050 9 ай бұрын
@@emii36363 exactly, they named the group vcha but left out the members that would have brought shine to the group
@ariesaraya1822
@ariesaraya1822 9 ай бұрын
I just wish melissa was there because of how soulful she is with her lyrics and how open she was about her trials. It would've been interesting to have that in kpop.
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 9 ай бұрын
I think she fits being a soloist more than kpop. I hope she's doing well
@RIQS-f8u
@RIQS-f8u 9 ай бұрын
sadly, she's withdraw from the Korea evaluation episode
@adorkable7196
@adorkable7196 9 ай бұрын
No shade but she wouldn't have made it. Looking at how that competition went, they would have eliminated her
@RIQS-f8u
@RIQS-f8u 9 ай бұрын
@@adorkable7196“they would have eliminated her” Well, no one knows, Melissa's singing ability is top, and because what I read some time ago in the 16 -17 episode video, there were comments from Korean netizens got may reply the point is saying that Melissa is actually the place for KAYLEE now, so while KENDAL Favoritism is there, Melissa can be there too. so By if. melizza is one that helps make this group look like American Group
@tsuyuasui7297
@tsuyuasui7297 9 ай бұрын
​@@RIQS-f8uthey still could've no shade
@xnonhic
@xnonhic 9 ай бұрын
its sad that Kendall is getting so much hate. y'all need to get a life.
@seanngn2300
@seanngn2300 9 ай бұрын
Seriously, some people need to grow up
@blahblahsuperanon
@blahblahsuperanon 9 ай бұрын
Honestly it's WILD
@Muxik4k
@Muxik4k 9 ай бұрын
​@@user-ky9tu1ly7p Her voice is like a pokemon.
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@user-ky9tu1ly7pthat’s not a reason to hate tho. Like yeah criticise her singing skills or jyp’s decision but straight up hating is motherless behaviour.
@fopanck99
@fopanck99 9 ай бұрын
Idk why they hate on her she suits the group so well it just would be amazing if jyp added Gina as 7th member bcz I think it was unfair for her to not make it to the final line up 😐 ( Cristina Melissa and Yuna I agree they need to improve more so it was a good decision to not debut them )
@soobinify
@soobinify 9 ай бұрын
when I first started watching this I thought that Gina was a for sure member and that she was definitely going to debut so I was really surprised when she was announced to not be in the lineup
@mjan3906
@mjan3906 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, especially because she ranked 2nd at the LA boot camp and was part of Topic, the group that won both of the final performances
@9cloudrachel207
@9cloudrachel207 9 ай бұрын
as the show went on it became clear to me JYP wasn't going to debut her
@joyjackson9092
@joyjackson9092 9 ай бұрын
i feel jyp thought she would stay a trainee and probably felt like he should "save her for later"... but idk if that was the case he probably should have done the same for kaylee. i love all the girls though
@torrentraisin
@torrentraisin 9 ай бұрын
kendall, gina, and kaylee should have not debuted, instead they should have been given an exclusive opportunity to become trainees and debut later on
@ngewskakak
@ngewskakak 9 ай бұрын
i more agree on this instead of hating kendall
@lilliasandia
@lilliasandia 9 ай бұрын
Agree!!! so they could debut later (im not sure if it's well written)
@wonder_mckay
@wonder_mckay 9 ай бұрын
Yes.. Kaylee should not have debuted 😂
@maryblack3297
@maryblack3297 9 ай бұрын
Gina still debuted. Check out her single Freedom that launched today.
@logunk5969
@logunk5969 9 ай бұрын
회사 오디션에서 탈락하든 데뷔조에서 탈락하면 퇴사하는 경우가 많음 그 회사에서는 인정을 못받았다고도 볼 수 있으니
@grahamjones5400
@grahamjones5400 9 ай бұрын
They should have called the group: A2K. A2K is simple and already in use. Let's not overthink this.
@mochalotte4702
@mochalotte4702 9 ай бұрын
Especially since by the end of it the group felt less American because the decisions were Korean-focused. They chose members that would appeal to the Korean audience more, chose an aesthetic and style that wasn’t mature enough for western audiences, chose a Korean band name, and released a pre debut song that was so out of touch, outdated and way too cheesy for modern American pop music, I felt shocked that Republic Records was even involved in this and let that slide. JYP and his company don’t know how to cater to western audiences so they just scrapped the whole American blend idea by the end of it. It’ll just be a typical korean girl group with exotic faces, it’s no longer A2K. Probably why they chose that VCHA bs.
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 9 ай бұрын
I really don't like how JYP's view on Kendall is attracting hate to her. She's a sweet girl, even comforting her teams. But the ranking decisions are definitely unbiased in every episodes, that I can't argue
@bdh711
@bdh711 9 ай бұрын
Yh bc people liked her before JYP showed his favortism blatantly 💀
@sucrelune9675
@sucrelune9675 8 ай бұрын
on en parle du favoritisme de Camila? Et de Kg? ça aussi c'était flagrant... Kg ne savait pas danser du tout et elle est passé quand même x)@@bdh711
@ivimolzz_
@ivimolzz_ 9 ай бұрын
I agree, it was robbed, but the girls have talent as the pre release track wasn’t actually bad to me
@iamsquidzy
@iamsquidzy 9 ай бұрын
Kinda upset that JYP didn’t add Christina to the group regardless of her lack of singing ability. She has everything else, dancing, rapping, personality, she glued the group together. And If I’m not mistaken, Twice Dayhun can’t sing either, yet she’s in a group 🤔 why couldn’t they do the same for Christina? I hate to throw race around, but I’m certain colorism was the reason.
@Hotstanna
@Hotstanna 9 ай бұрын
I thought I was the only one that thought this it’s definitely colorism.
@Kpopscales139
@Kpopscales139 9 ай бұрын
This thought also came in my mind once
@ateddybear1392
@ateddybear1392 9 ай бұрын
He praised her so much the entire show, ranked her high most of the time. Called her “so so good” multiple times and really, he didn’t even give her negative feedback outside of the vocal mission at bootcamp. Then all of a sudden she’s not good enough
@Thighlicious
@Thighlicious 9 ай бұрын
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed. Not to compare her and savanna but they’re both black, savanna is a bit lighter than her tho. It was a close battle but Christina ranked higher than her in all the evaluation they did, but in the final evaluation she ranked 6th while savanna ranked 5th. Now not to say she’s not deserving of her position now, cuz she did work harder and improved but so did Christina, but I just don’t think it made sense how she ranked higher than her in those categories and showed lots of potential but then somehow gets ranked lower than a member who ranked lower than her in every other category. And then I just noticed in their debut how they all look significantly more lighter than her, I felt they probably thought she wouldn’t fit in the group because of that. Like idk, what I said could be a stretch but yet again it wouldn’t be surprising, colorism from an Asian company?? 😱
@gabrielle-dd2hu
@gabrielle-dd2hu 9 ай бұрын
It was clearly colorism nobody can tell me otherwise
@adam711s
@adam711s 9 ай бұрын
they might work with a younger demographic. the music sounds like something i'd hear on radio disney or something. i don't see myself like being a hardcore fan or anything, but it'll be cool to watch them grow as they get older and more experienced.
@thejuliazaharchuk
@thejuliazaharchuk 9 ай бұрын
I like the final line up, the contestants are all different and I haven’t seen a group just like that before. I think they all have great stage presence which makes them fun to watch, the vocals are pretty good too… Wouldn’t say that they’re lacking so much in that department that it would bother the American audience. They all seem very humble and hardworking 🙂 What’s interesting is that they will be managed by Division 3 of JYP (which also manages Twice and JYP) so there’s great prospect there. Overall, I’m here for how unique this group is and excited to hear what their debut single will sound like, looks like they’re going for the youthful and fresh concept.
@mmv7750
@mmv7750 9 ай бұрын
❤ if you didn't know, there is a group called blackswan that is even more different and unique
@jungkookswife3301
@jungkookswife3301 9 ай бұрын
I don't mind the final lineup, to be honest I didn't have any favorite, but I agree that Cristina & Gina should've debuted as well. But it's totally useless & mean to insult Kendall just because she was taken & not the other two girls. She worked just as much & in the end it's JYP who made de decision. Now.. Personally, I don't really like the name Vcha, it's boring & hard to pronounced.. Plus to be honest I feel like the group won't be that popular.. Like you said, they are lacking chemistry, & Idk I feel like the hype is gonna die pretty quickly now that the show has ended..
@Alena-cq1ze
@Alena-cq1ze 9 ай бұрын
Yes, and especially because Kendall didn't take either of the other girls' place. The lineup number was not decided. So if Kendall didn't debut, it would've been five members. Or if they wanted to debut Gina and Cristina, they could've.
@FleuriiBall
@FleuriiBall 9 ай бұрын
I agree
@reveorbit
@reveorbit 9 ай бұрын
I think if we take a step back and look at the bigger picture of this group and american culture, it’s so clear that they’re not going to be successful. I hope I’m wrong, but the only other girl groups that have been able to hold their own in the american market are TLC, destiny’s child, the spice girls, and fifth harmony. now ask if vcha is on the same level as these other groups… absolutely not
@r_i_ma
@r_i_ma 9 ай бұрын
yea but the market is segmented with different demographics, let's take that into consideration !
@rgblok7384
@rgblok7384 9 ай бұрын
How can you make an judgment and comparison base on this one song when Vcha hasn't even launched yet lol. Sounds like someone is a hater.
@Staytiny_En-zennie
@Staytiny_En-zennie 9 ай бұрын
​@@rgblok7384Umm what's wrong with her making a judgement??? Just because she's viewing her statement of how she feels about it in her opinion makes her a hater?? 👹
@mahdireza5695
@mahdireza5695 9 ай бұрын
I honestly think they need more time to shine. Rn i will agree it's not hitting yet and i don't think it will break the worldwide internet, but i can see some sort of popularity at least in some parts of Asia. Anyways another girl group from the US that was legendary was G.R.L. they had full on choreo and super strong vocals!
@kkentaii
@kkentaii 9 ай бұрын
@@rgblok7384 most likely because their first song is what people will assume they are will put out and the sound is just blatantly kpop that it just does not fit with what type of kpop / western music the west likes. They are no NEWJEANS type of music and they are no Oliva with their music
@beaqi_
@beaqi_ 9 ай бұрын
On your last video, I commented something about how I was worried the group was going to be seen as Kidz-Bop and yeah…I’m even more worried now based on the Y.O.Universe song and MV. It kind of looks like something you’d see on Disney Channel and just felt juvenile. Although maybe that’s good considering how young the members are. I think JYPE seriously doesn’t understand the American market, especially considering how the English releases from his groups have gone. I’m also kind of frustrated with how Vcha has been treated compared to Blackswan. Blackswan has gotten so much sh*t from international fans calling them Koreaboos but the second a big3 company debuts a “global group” with mostly light skin people, it’s fine? Obviously I don’t want the girls to get hate but it feels like a double standard.
@onceuponamelody
@onceuponamelody 9 ай бұрын
I don't really have a problem with the lineup, except for Kaylee being so young and Kendall being so...boring. (I really think Gina's personality was better shown in the show.) I totally agree that JYPE is trying to make the group something that the general US market just won't be into. I do think he's trying to make them more for young teens. Which is fine, but there's really not a big market for that as most young teens just listen to already established popular artists.
@ngewskakak
@ngewskakak 9 ай бұрын
why do you think kendall is boring? gina showed plain face in the final, she even didn't say thank you for the advice. she also showed boring talent in star quality at LA bootcamp, while kendall impressed JYP with her star quality by her painting and crafting skills. she also mesmerized JYP by dancing "24 hours" and doing great theatrical expressions. that make no sense to everyone who mentioned kendall as "boring"
@data1509
@data1509 9 ай бұрын
@@ngewskakaknot here to argue, but I thought it was interesting word choice that you said ‘theatrical’ a girl got removed for “theatrical” faces 😭😭
@zuffin1864
@zuffin1864 9 ай бұрын
i kinda get it, because if he can corner the young kid market which is anywhere from like, ages 2 - 13, the kids will grow up liking kpop and parents will buy them stuff. only thing is, spice girls did the mature concept and kids still loved them lol
@mahdireza5695
@mahdireza5695 9 ай бұрын
It's true. The teens in the west like "adulty" music most, even the kpop obsessed ones would probably choose it over family friendly youthful music.
@sunnygirlll_2001
@sunnygirlll_2001 9 ай бұрын
I agree that JYP targetted this group towards a very young fandom of like 14+ imo. Like imagine, people of 15 or 16+ are obviously gonna be less interested bc they will feel too old for some kids bop concept and Kaylee is too young for them BUT imagine if you're 8yo child seeing this group?? Just like we all crushed on Selena Gomez or Disney channel popstars when we were kids. So this might actually work if he targets the same audience as Nickelodeon shows. Tbh kids could easily love these cute songs and concepts 😊❤
@beepboop9373
@beepboop9373 9 ай бұрын
Listen I understand why Yuna got eliminated, and I LOVE Yuna, but she had the same issue over and over again, was not improving as quickly, and honestly towards the end it seemed like she lost her spark and drive and was getting really discouraged. I want to be fully transparent, I did not start off disliking Kendall and do not want to dislike her because one she is a kid and two it is not her fault that JYP is like in love with her or something. But it is so unfair how strict he is being towards the other girls when Kendall keeps not singing in her full voice and she sounds quite nasally. Now this wouldn't be an issue if he was holding all the girls to the same level and critiquing her the same way. But to call her voice perfect when she was unstable or her voice was cracking is really disrespectful to the other girls who worked just as hard and sorry, but did better than her. And its also unfair to Kendall because he's not giving her the critique to improve and she's going to develop this bad habit and the fans will notice and it is just setting her up for failure! I did not see much growth from Kendall overall in the same way I did Yuna, in which they kept repeating the same mistakes and were at about the same level of dancing and singing from the beginning towards the end of the show. The only difference was that Kendall got a lot of praise while Yuna got a lot of criticism, which you can tell impacted both girls differently and ultimately led to the outcomes. At the beginning, I understood what he meant about Gina being somewhat robotic but I really truly believe she overcame that towards the end and that's why I'm in shock she did not make it. Gina was so much fun to watch on stage and she is honestly more talented than Kendall, so the reasoning simply does not make sense. How do you get better when Gina was already starting really high and improved in everything that was asked of her. Cristina was also extremely talented and fun to watch! So my question is, if it's about trajectory should people who are already really talented not bother joining? For example, Camila is already so talented with her voice that there isn't much to improve so in that logic she shouldn't have been chosen because the trajectory for growth isn’t as high as say Yuna’s. I'm not saying I think Camila shouldn't have been chosen but I'm just saying that their reasoning is faulty and they can't justify it because it came down to favoritism and they have always favored Kendall. I hope she has improved a lot and she doesn't get too much hate but JYP all the hate Kendall is receiving is because of you and your inability to be fair and treat all the girls equally. Sorry just had to rant and say my piece lol.
@vedabala7209
@vedabala7209 9 ай бұрын
OMG YESSSS I WAS TRYING TO PUT THESE EXACT THOUGHTS INTO WORDSSSS
@keighhht
@keighhht 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Kendall doesn't deserve the hate just because JYP was so obviously bias towards her looks working for kpop. I think he could've worded it better on deciding factors.
@cancelledagain
@cancelledagain 8 ай бұрын
jype immediately realized back then that it was a mistake to let the audience choose the members after Momo got eliminated in Sixteen, so it's good that they themselves chose the members this time. Also the fact that Kendall was chosen number 1 by the literal trainers of the company, it should be a no-brainer that she would be included in the final line-up.
@gravy9gravy
@gravy9gravy 9 ай бұрын
A2K seems really gimmicky. I don't see them making it in America or Korea. I'm all for it though. Whatever happens, the girls are having fun and will get to tell their grandchildren about the time they were in a Kpop group. American girls can go home anytime, and probably will. I'm also hoping they form some friendships in the JYPE cafeteria (itzy), and tell them how good artists have it in the US.
@amphibian2982
@amphibian2982 9 ай бұрын
So sad about Cristina. She had to much talent, charisma and stage presence all the girls who got in deserved to, but ig it can never be perfect
@huhhhh5508
@huhhhh5508 9 ай бұрын
All girls are great, line up works! But I def thought Gina and Christina were shoe ins :/ Kaylee could’ve been kept as a trainee bc she so young and talented
@thedreadpirateroberts
@thedreadpirateroberts 9 ай бұрын
Cristina, Yuna and Gina had the most entertaining personalities off stage. Cristina was so supportive and a big foodie which I love. You can tell Gina was really funny. I think those two would have created good content for Vlives, variety shows, behind the scenes, vlogs, interviews etc. Honestly Yuna wasn’t the best dancer but her stage presence was really good. She has a lively energy that’s really attractive and interesting. I also think she has the best visuals. She may not have been the best singer/dancer but she had her own natural charms that would have attracted a lot of fans. I keep saying this over and over again but I really think they should have made two separate groups instead of eliminating the girls. Girl crush concept: Camilla, Gina, Cristina and Lexus. They all looked their best doing SKZ choreo that would be more fitting for a girl crush concept. Group 2 would have youthful cutesy concept: Kaylee, Yuna, Kendall, KG and Savanna. Now Savanna can easily fit the girl crush concept also. I picked her for group 2 cause she a rapper and group 2 is lacking one. Group 1 has Cristina and Camilla who are already good at rapping. To be completely fair I will also add in Melissa with group 1 and Mischa for group 2. Melissa has that soulful voice and her age makes her a better fit for the girl crush group. While Mischa’s age is more appropriate for the cutesy vibe of group 2. I like all the girls and I wish they all could have debuted.
@bananajotaro8557
@bananajotaro8557 9 ай бұрын
Stop riding Yuna bro. Yeah she had visuals but that was basically it, she had no use for the group hence why she didn’t make it to the final stage.
@thedreadpirateroberts
@thedreadpirateroberts 9 ай бұрын
@@bananajotaro8557 I can like whoever tf I want to like! Stop being a fuckin hater! Wtf is wrong with you hating on a 16 yo?
@sucrelune9675
@sucrelune9675 8 ай бұрын
Exactement à part être belle elle n'arriver pas à suivre l'évolution du groupe, c'était plus un boulet qu'autre chose.. je suis désolée de le dire mais bon, elle dansait pas très bien, elle était malaisante/gênante. Quand on voit l'évolution par exemple de KG qui était une catastrophe en danse même elle était plus sympathique à regarder danser vraiment. @@bananajotaro8557
@data1509
@data1509 9 ай бұрын
Also it’s hilarious savanna and Christina are considered dark skin…😂
@amiboacid7183
@amiboacid7183 9 ай бұрын
JYP stans are awfully quiet about debuting minors right now
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 9 ай бұрын
I don't like that too but Kaylee does deserve to debut. throughout the show she was ready from the get go. If I were them, I cant steal her chance at debuting
@adorkable7196
@adorkable7196 9 ай бұрын
@@wanishuk6489 So which one is it. Do we not want minors to debut to protect them or do we not want to steal the chance to debut? lets be serious right now like
@Niven42
@Niven42 9 ай бұрын
Well, New Jeans (Hyein was 14 when she debuted) has been killing it in the states. Maybe their ages aren't going to be much of an issue.
@amiboacid7183
@amiboacid7183 9 ай бұрын
@@Niven42 name one non-Kpop fan in America who stans NJ and knows there is a 14 year old in the group.
@Niven42
@Niven42 9 ай бұрын
@@amiboacid7183 what does that even mean? If you Stan NJ, then that pretty much makes you a Kpop fan.
@ha.2818
@ha.2818 9 ай бұрын
They could’ve still succeeded with all nine members similar to twice, they got rid of the members who drew the most attention like Yuna and Christina
@iamsquidzy
@iamsquidzy 9 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@Hi_Haven
@Hi_Haven 9 ай бұрын
Yuna was most definitely not ready
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 9 ай бұрын
Christina yessss. Yuna isn't ready but she will improve
@angelsis2222
@angelsis2222 9 ай бұрын
Yuna sucked thou lolll
@poufchka1
@poufchka1 6 ай бұрын
@@Hi_Haven Tzuyu was not ready during sixteen and he kept her because she was the fan favorite.
@fimbulvetr6129
@fimbulvetr6129 9 ай бұрын
I feel like I'd like this lineup more if JYP didn't repeat in every episode during the Korea Bootcamp, "remember, all of you have the opportunity to make the lineup." I get its about effort and whatnot, but it is a shot in the foot to say it since it makes the narrative become (What did X do that Y didn't?) Do I like the lineup? sure, my faves got in, Y.O.U.-niverse is a banger, and I love Go Getter. Could the lineup be better? uh, YEAH, let all of them get in. I just hope this goes the route of Sixteen where even the runner ups get their chance in the Spotlight in a few years (Was seriously banking on Kaylee being alike to Natty 🤷)
@monki6304
@monki6304 9 ай бұрын
I think even if there were predetermined slots people would feel the same way
@adorkable7196
@adorkable7196 9 ай бұрын
@@monki6304 not to this level tbh
@maelt4347
@maelt4347 9 ай бұрын
I love this lineup, as a Savanna, Camila and Lexus supporter since the beginning I am happy, but, Cristina should've debuted. The way JYP snubbed her so many times when critiquing her, omitting all the improvement she's had over the course of the show. As for the group chemistry, i think it'll come with a bit of time, you can see when they're training that they get along and laugh a lot, i truly think we will get to see them be like that. I am so proud of all the contestants, and their journey! So happy for the debut team aswell, congratulations on their first music show stage as well!!! Sidenote : wtf is that name, jyp.........
@LOVER_LINK
@LOVER_LINK 9 ай бұрын
this couldve been an 8 member group. also if they made kaylee trained a bit more and have cristina instead, their sound will change from teen pop to something closer to itzy
@takoholic
@takoholic 9 ай бұрын
I’m so tired of the unnecessary hate Kendall is receiving. Honestly, I feel all of the girls equally worked hard. I support Kendall and she deserves that spot like anyone else. Lastly, Gina was meant to be a soloist and her new song that came out is so good! She will thrive and please continue to support her on this path.
@aubreysmithson-zf5fj
@aubreysmithson-zf5fj 9 ай бұрын
I think the lineup is okay in terms of skill level, but it is clear that not all the members have a strong bond. I would have prefered that they keep Cristina and Gina mainly because they bring a lot of energy to the group and it would seem less awkward when the girls are interacting. Also, I feel like the group could have had a much better concept had kaylee not debuted. Because she is only 12, the company cannot have the group do more mature concepts without recieving backlash for sexualizing someone that young. Therefore they went with a school/best friends(??) concept that is not trendy or popular in the media right now. Had the group lineup been decided my the viewers vote I think it would have been way different. For example, kaylee has a strong korean fandom mainly because she is the only korean member, however a lot of international a2k fans refuse to stan her because she is so young. I also think that yuna would have not been eliminated because she had such a large fandom. Throughout the show it was clear that JYP had favorites. The main example of this are Kendall and KG. Sure both of the girls are talented, but I don't think either of them are prepared enough to debut. KG lacks dancing skills but she has strong vocals, however being a kpop idol requires a lot of dancing and she will only weaken the group. Kendall has great stage presence but her dancing is messy and her vocals are not as good as JYP praises her for several times in the show. Overall, the lineup isn't horrible but I don't think they have a high chance of being successful.
@bp-u-will-always-be-famous
@bp-u-will-always-be-famous 9 ай бұрын
how are u calling kendalls dancing messy when she is one of the best dancers? Also her vocals are better than lexi’s and savannah’s
@acatinthesnow2294
@acatinthesnow2294 9 ай бұрын
The Korean community preference response was roughly Camilla/Lexus/Savana/kg..Koreans don't support them unconditionally because they are Koreans. On the contrary, there were many opinions that Korean members should be excluded if they aim to be global
@aniki3856
@aniki3856 9 ай бұрын
Your statements wouldn't make sense cuz gina was just one year older than kaylee Kaylee not being there and gina being there would not change much in the concept
@Niven42
@Niven42 9 ай бұрын
KG has been dancing really well on the Korean music shows. She got a lot better in a short time.
@arieljw8592
@arieljw8592 9 ай бұрын
Yuna should have debuted but Kendall & KG shouldn’t have?…your being biased lol Yuna was not ready. She wasn’t confident in her singing or dancing. The times she showed it was in practices when the members would hype her up, but you can’t look at others for confidence boost all the time. You have to find it within yourself. Not to mention she would always be ahead of the beat. She wasn’t ready. KG improved in her dancing from the first evaluation to the final. Yes JYP definitely had favoritism towards KG & Kendall but they showed more improvement than Yuna.
@jaeminssocks
@jaeminssocks 9 ай бұрын
0:37 idk why jyp was thinking! Vcha sounds like someone trying to say visa but with something in their mouth! Also the meaning is so boring!
@Keira_bat
@Keira_bat 9 ай бұрын
I loved christina's personality the most and she has such great stage presence. PLUS like you said, she was part of the chemistry of the group. The energy in the group feels super empty. Gina, although more reserved, had that fun bright energy as well that is now missing.
@EVVENN
@EVVENN 9 ай бұрын
Personally, the only problem that I have is the name. It may not be that bad to some people but I just can’t understand why would he put them that name when his previous gg’s such as wonder girls, twice, itzy and nmixx are all names that sound way better than “VCHA” if he had actually thought abt this has his most “ambitious” project then he would have had put more thought into the name, especially if it’s a group meant for a global audience. Not to mentioned it sounds like a slur is Brazilian Portuguese and like an insect in Spanish. By the way, spanish speaking audiences are already making a meme out of the name because “VCHA” sounds like bicha, similar to “bichota” which is a slang word for bisexual woman or just something u say when u feel empowered 😭
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 9 ай бұрын
FRRRR, IT'S NOT SUITABLE
@maridoesntknowhattosay
@maridoesntknowhattosay 9 ай бұрын
vcha reminds me of KACCHI :skull:
@Thighlicious
@Thighlicious 9 ай бұрын
@@maridoesntknowhattosaylol same 😭
@akosicvy
@akosicvy 9 ай бұрын
i said this on twitter but they're probably named vcha cuz shinee was already taken lmao
@HolicChan
@HolicChan 9 ай бұрын
Even if they don’t blow up, I’m very happy about it! As a long term Japanese idol fan (wasuta AKB48 idolmaster sakura etc) I’ve been DESPERATE for an American girl group it’s always been my dream for more cutesy innocent girl music with the dancing and singing and charm to boot! So while I’m probably a minority here I literally couldn’t be happier. Most American music is hyper sexual or hyper narcissistic or money obsessive or bad bitch obsessive, and I’m tired of it. We have Billie eilish and Taylor swift and my personal favorite poppy, but I’ve always had a girl group shaped hole in my heart
@KennedyJ8097
@KennedyJ8097 9 ай бұрын
Billie and Taylor has made songs being hyper sexual thought and about money and fame.
@HolicChan
@HolicChan 9 ай бұрын
@@KennedyJ8097 I guess yeah, I guess I was just trying to say girls without that specific branding like I don’t see Taylor or Billies main thing being sexual like maybe someone like cardi B or nicki Minajs are both whom I love also, but it’s nice to get something a little refreshing that’s all…
@fayfayadventurous7005
@fayfayadventurous7005 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think it was robbed! I mean yes this group was not chosen with the fans. This is JYP’s decision and though some of us don’t like him, you should respect it. Yes some were better than the other. A2K happened I believed a year ago( might be wrong!) to me I think Kendall got way better at singing and if ya’ll think he chose her because he favored her, go ahead. I really think Kendall was a good choice to be honest. I would stop hating on the group and just support them! Yes some of your favorite girls didn’t get in the group but it’s okay they still will chase their dreams. In the End just be happy for Vcha!!
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 9 ай бұрын
Same, she's honestly a sweet person. But ppl are hating bcs of jyp's praise
@yamamancha
@yamamancha 9 ай бұрын
They may struggle to capture American fans based on their current content. XG is blowing up in the US for their amazing skills and music that resonates with Americans. They are also mature without being sexy or girly. JPY will need to significantly improve VCHA's song quality if the company hopes to capture enough fans to generate publicity and profit.
@evanmclaughlin7988
@evanmclaughlin7988 9 ай бұрын
i really think all 8 should've debuted and i'm pretty sad for gina and christina because they're both extremely talented
@sunnygirlll_2001
@sunnygirlll_2001 9 ай бұрын
I agree with people saying that JYP targetted this group towards a very young fandom of like 14+ imo. Like imagine, people of 15 or 16+ are obviously gonna be less interested bc they will feel too old for some kids bop concept and Kaylee is too young for them BUT imagine if you're 8yo child seeing this group?? Just like we all crushed on Selena Gomez or Disney channel popstars when we were kids. So this might actually work if he targets the same audience as Nickelodeon shows. Tbh kids could easily love these cute songs and concepts 😊❤
@kkentaii
@kkentaii 9 ай бұрын
I think KNEZ are more willing to see the group if the songs were in Korean / more kpop like. KNEZ do enjoy groups like BLACKSWAN as long as they respecting the culture. They dont seem to enjoy XG but they do have their fans so it's more of if they like any of the members if anything which i doubt.
@jaeminssocks
@jaeminssocks 9 ай бұрын
1:42 Usually I’m on board with the viewers voting, however, I don’t think this would’ve worked, because most of the time viewers favor contestants based on their looks/personality rather talent! The lineup would be awful if the viewers were given the option to vote, because we already know yuna be 1st although she’s the weakest link in terms of talent and skills! Personally I have no issue with the lineup (I’m still unsure about Kendall) but everyone else deserved their place/rank! Lastly, I think jyp has plans for gina and that’s why she didn’t make it and I think Cristina’s voice was the main reason why she didn’t make it! Overall, the show was good, and I’m excited to see how this plays out!
@skylersign1736
@skylersign1736 9 ай бұрын
It’s speculated that Gina left JYP since she opened an Instagram & just released a song as a solo artist (Gina de Bosschere on YT)
@gabrielle-dd2hu
@gabrielle-dd2hu 9 ай бұрын
​@@skylersign1736she did leave
@jadetiger8125
@jadetiger8125 9 ай бұрын
to be completely honest I love this group a lot, thats mostly because I am a young Canadian non Korean that would love to be a kpop idol, a lot like this group, they have inspired me to work hard and maybe one day be able to join one, of course its a big dream that only a select few get to experience, but this group has not only brought me inspiration (I hope) but other people too, I love this group so much and there all so talented, I dont think any of them shouldn't've have debuted (that are in the group) I am glad that JYP made this group
@Everythingz127
@Everythingz127 9 ай бұрын
Don't worry about skin color that much Nabi, Blackswan is doing very well. It's instead the i fans that dislike their skin color 🙃
@caradecansada8330
@caradecansada8330 9 ай бұрын
i feel like the concept is too teen pop for it to be popular in america and sadly they cant steer away from it because kaylee is so young, which is why i didn’t want gina or kaylee to debut simply because of their age. the chemistry isn’t there yet and so they look really awkward together, but they barelyyyy debuted so i hope im proven wrong in the future
@luvingleewonhee
@luvingleewonhee 9 ай бұрын
the final lineup isn’t bad at all. I really wish the other girls (cristina and gina) especially gina made it but the lineup isn’t bad AT ALL
@mydiary9902
@mydiary9902 9 ай бұрын
This line up looks like a disney group targeted at kids. i cant take them serious tbh
@milkbread5036
@milkbread5036 9 ай бұрын
that's what I thought after watching the music video. It's very Disney Chanel for kids, not global superstars. If they want to be global, they need a more western concept and sound like BlackPink and XG
@norabeckwith6893
@norabeckwith6893 9 ай бұрын
​@@milkbread5036no they don't
@jacklyn1999
@jacklyn1999 9 ай бұрын
group chemistry can get better over time though
@Ccupnoodles
@Ccupnoodles 9 ай бұрын
I really like this group,I feel like everyone in the group deserves to be there(all the contestants did). They have all worked so hard for almost a year, I really hope they do well through there career, all they need is a BANGER for there official debut to get people’s attention, LOVE YOU VCHA❤
@Hellokitty_391
@Hellokitty_391 9 ай бұрын
My top 2 are literally Cristina and Gina so.... 😀
@mariiitherose1
@mariiitherose1 9 ай бұрын
if you talk about diversity, the group really has diversity. the music video is so good, the show had a lot views on youtube which they need that atenttion now they release a single i saw a lot of "Reactors" reacting to them and they will react to a2k soon soo they will like them more.
@Muxik4k
@Muxik4k 9 ай бұрын
Diversity wise as the US is pushing, it makes sense, there is almost one girl per race + Kaylee.
@Halo3ninja28
@Halo3ninja28 9 ай бұрын
Nobody cares about diversity if we're being honest. K-pop has never been diverse but it still grew. It's about the K in the K pop. If you want just pop then America has long had that already. Most supporters of this group are just the type of people to stan anything early on in order to satisfy their obsessive personality types and so that they can feel like they're an "original" fan of a new, possibly big group. There is nothing of value here other than if you want to pity what are normally considered minority groups in the states. That can only carry a group so far though.
@wanishuk6489
@wanishuk6489 9 ай бұрын
Naurrrrr I LOVE THIS LINE UP, I wish all of them debuted tho. What you're saying abt the awkwardness kinda true but I hope they grow as a group
@Blodhelm
@Blodhelm 9 ай бұрын
The name reminds me of the Vor'Cha and VGer, but I've been re-watching a bit of Star Trek lately. The group definitely feels like a number of individuals and less of a cohesive on-stage force, gotta agree with you on that. They probably should have spent a few months training together with some vacation/travel experiences so they could build more comradery.
@mickeyhaha._.
@mickeyhaha._. 9 ай бұрын
the lineup is not bad. the only thing im worried about is kaylee. shes extremely talented and worthy but she is barely in middle school and she was already very stressed out during the auditions. i feel like the age gaps will also make their bond even more awkward than it already is. and altho i rooted for gina and wished for her to debut, im still amazed by how much hardwork all of these members put in.
@StanChunghaOrGoHome
@StanChunghaOrGoHome 8 ай бұрын
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who noticed the lack of chemistry in the group. I see people hyping it up when tbh to me it comes across as forced and awkward.
@pricelessjew9518
@pricelessjew9518 9 ай бұрын
They robbed my Cristina and did Gina dirty! But still, I love the lineup, even though I don't like them that much
@Thispotatolikekpop
@Thispotatolikekpop 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I doubt they will be very big in Korea, but I don't think it will be because of the members ethnicity. Blackswan, a very diverse group, while not very popular, do get alot of praise from Koreans. I could be wrong tho.
@student1915
@student1915 9 ай бұрын
this is actually all my thoughts in one video
@kyukuro
@kyukuro 9 ай бұрын
I really hope they do other concepts and not only cutesy
@greenmachatea
@greenmachatea 9 ай бұрын
VCha will really need to work hard to break thru. Need strong songs that make tiktok trend. Cuz right now, the audience seemed more international like the americas, some asians countries. But you’re right regarding the korean public. They won’t care abt it. Too many groups. Unless jyp really advertise them a lot.
@giselleakgae4100
@giselleakgae4100 9 ай бұрын
A2K was so much fun. So convenient it was on KZfaq and no need for english subtitles with the goofy livechat on the side. Feel sorry for people who missed out on the fun. A huge miss for Dream Academy not to do the same but with higher production values.
@paisley_june3085
@paisley_june3085 9 ай бұрын
I think the lineup is good! I’m surprised Gina was eliminated after she’s been training at JYP, and also Cristina. Yuna was my favourite, but after watching more of her performances I realized she’s not as skilled as the other contestants. Stream Y.O.Universe!
@itszenny...
@itszenny... 9 ай бұрын
i think the lineup is okay but we need some more extroverts like the group feels awkward and uncoordinated but maybe they get closer to each other eventually
@Resonance1919
@Resonance1919 9 ай бұрын
I feel conflicted because I like all the girls and I wish Kendall happiness and success so I'll support her, but I'm gutted about my girl Cristina not getting in... she sang so well in the final mission too, WAY better than Kendall. Kendall legitimately made me cringe w her vocals. I cried a lot when Yuna went home but if I'm being honest her appeal is only her personality and cute qualities. She can do moves but has no sense of beat or rhythm and didn't fix that problem after all the training time. And she's a weak singer. I hope she improves and gets more chances but the reality is she just wasn't ready. Ocerall I'm pretty happy w the lineup. Just mostly sad about Cristina
@Niven42
@Niven42 9 ай бұрын
Not happy that they didn't debut all 9 contestants. JYP never said the group would be 6. If that was the plan, why didn't he say so?
@bluerox616
@bluerox616 9 ай бұрын
Btw, fifth harmony's youngest members were age 15. The oldest was 19 and the other 2 were 16. There's a big difference between 12 or 13 year olds and 15 year olds. But whatever age they shouldn't be in the music industry.
@kooraeth
@kooraeth 9 ай бұрын
dont know a single thing abt this show but a2k would've been a better group name than vcha
@carolwolfih5354
@carolwolfih5354 7 ай бұрын
Do you like le serafin ?
@bcray2548
@bcray2548 9 ай бұрын
Christina not being the final girl broke me fr but I was happy for all the girls
@Jen_nyyy
@Jen_nyyy 9 ай бұрын
Here’s my thought: Just because something isn't done a certain way doesn't mean we shouldn't try! I have my issues with kpop, but there are aspects I love too. I love that the VCHA group is diverse yet connected by one common factor “KPOP!”. People often think success means being recognized in the U.S., but if the kpop industry starts prioritizing that, they may lose touch with their culture. This sometimes leads to polarizing opinions when idols change their image to please the western audience. Regarding VCHA, they aren't perfect, but that's okay. They only had one year of practice, which is much less than most kpop idols. With continued practice and improvement, they have great potential to succeed. Personally, I believe Gina is a better performer than Kendall, but I understand why JYP chose her. She has a Kpop aura and is expressive. I want to give a big shoutout to JYP for giving the girls this opportunity. I am genuinely happy and proud of them, and they deserve all the spotlight.
@why_melli
@why_melli 9 ай бұрын
how have i completely missed this?
@chompchompchomps.
@chompchompchomps. 9 ай бұрын
Honestly I love vcha, and I think they will be just fine. In the comments you see foreigner comments filling the comment section as well as viewers from the us as well as fancams, and things not even correlated to JYPS channel. Vcha is a group with very untrained artist who have insane talent, and unlike the trained the kpop artist we know today we get to see them in live time grow as performers, friends, idols. Watching the show you can see who has a bond that being kaylee, and lexu's sister like bond, or Christina, ginas, and camilas bond. These girls are young, but theyll grow just like every other kpop group. Right now they have a typical JYP girl group concept, but Y.O.Universe was there Pre debut song so we have to wait, and see what vibe theyre going for right now. JYP made the worlds best girl groups so have faith that he does know what he is doing lmao.
@Kiera348
@Kiera348 3 ай бұрын
This video goes to show why most companies train and teach idols without showing them to the general public is because the general public can be very biased towards there favorite rather then who actually has the skills to be a K-pop idol most people that judge the line up doesn’t even know what it takes to be a Idol or doesn’t understand the training also they are debuting as a K-pop group they work within the K-pop industry within the K-pop genres and style so this video simply goes to show that she doesn’t even know what K pop is it’s a style and mixture of genres mixed with Korean music this line up was mostly good based on there skill but like I said you can’t sit there and be like oh they didn’t do what the fans want cause at the end of the day it’s about there skills it’s about what they can show the world so you who hasn’t lived as long as JY park or haven’t been into the industry close to as JY park won’t understand what he is looking for and we should respect what he is looking for and how he wants To build his company he’s been in the industry for over 30 years none of you have been in the K-pop industry let alone for over 10 years at all let’s stop judging and start respecting the people that have been doing this day in and day our for years and the show had trained professionals so if you think you are a professional start your own show instead and f complaining
@babbyboo
@babbyboo 9 ай бұрын
We all know why it's jyp made the group in the first place it to be on the billboards like everyone else trying to be on..... & And at this point I'm Not surprise ...💯
@bumblebeesim73
@bumblebeesim73 9 ай бұрын
Vee-CHA (like the beginning part of Chalk) the reason why it sounds weird is cause everyone keeps saying it wrong
@wintnho
@wintnho 9 ай бұрын
tbh it’s not even a bad lineup. especially looking at the stages that are out.. the girls do well together.
@fopanck99
@fopanck99 9 ай бұрын
Only Gina who deserves to debut with them Cristina , Melissa and Yuna need more improvement to be in the final line up If it was me i will remove Kaylee and add Gina cuz she is so young maybe he choose her cuz she's the only one who can speak Korean in the group
@rump3lstiiltskiin531
@rump3lstiiltskiin531 7 ай бұрын
If you check out Boys World. That’s your typical American Girl group out right now. Lighter and sexier choreography with stronger vocals.
@wadadaqueen
@wadadaqueen 9 ай бұрын
The name is bad when you pronounce it in spanish... its pronounced as Bicha witch means bug in feminine its also an insult
@lebacon4575
@lebacon4575 7 ай бұрын
Jay why pee: national group Vcha: songs in full English, 🇺🇸🦅🦅
@thecrMEMEpuff
@thecrMEMEpuff 9 ай бұрын
Jay why pee better realize that VCHA is a group centered towards a WESTERN audience. Their group name sounds too weird for a global group in general, they could've done something like ILLUMINATE instead, that would be much more appealing instead of something complicated like VCHA (if this group blows up, the name is definitely gonna get criticized by the general public and is already gaining loads of criticism from viewers of A2K and knetz for the weird group name). Another thing is that promoting the group on korean music shows may be a good way to gather kpop fans but when they actually full on debut, they should also start promoting on well known American TV shows that the general American public watches on daily basis in order to gain more recognition. They came to Korea to debut but they should promote in the US too, remember this is a collab with Republic Records to make an American Kpop group. Also, this group will most likely be centered towards teenagers so I suggest do a concept that teenagers nowadays like (ex. Teen pop songs that can be sped up on Tiktok and be a massive hit like how Cupid did). And if only they debuted all 8, the group would have more potential. I feel that Cristina and Gina has a vibe that will do well in the western market (plus they are the extroverts of the team so there could've been more fun and dyanmic chemistry between the members). Anyways sorry if this seemed like a whole frickin essay, I tried my best to explain what JYP should've done in order for VCHA to be successful in the upcoming years. And make sure to stream SeVit and Gina's new single Freedom (yes our talented girl just debuted as a soloist) if you want to show your support for all of the girls' bright future ❤
@shinjibing8364
@shinjibing8364 9 ай бұрын
I knew Gina wasn’t goin to make it but Cristina really surprised me. Really wonder what she must have done wrong while in korea to have been eliminated because of the staff character evaluations.
@mistapibb
@mistapibb 9 ай бұрын
I agree with you. This video isn’t even hate as people in the comments suggest. You are speaking facts. And people saying your opinion being wrong is hilarious.
@NemesisN4Sir
@NemesisN4Sir 9 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, you need that WOW factor, good music, and concept to stay afloat.
@lamusiquefanatique
@lamusiquefanatique 9 ай бұрын
I love the final line up even though it was emotional with each elimination because the girls bonded making it so sad to say goodbye. Kaylee is young but she's one of the most talented in my opinion. Her spot is well deserved. I really don't like the name Vcha that much though. And I'm concerned if JYP will be able to give them good music.
@jujushook5487
@jujushook5487 9 ай бұрын
I teared up i think Gina/Christina deserved that spot more than Kendall
@megustaisalive6683
@megustaisalive6683 9 ай бұрын
It's not the first time that JYPE chose 'less skilled' contestants. During Sixteen, Minyoung was arguably the best singer of the trainees, but she still didn't get through. During Nizi Project, we have Yuna who was the longest trainee, but Ayaka was chosen instead. But look where both groups are now. Twice being the best selling Kpop girl group, and Niziu being one of the top groups in Japan. So let's just say , JYPE knows what they are doing to reach this decision.
@k0ichi938
@k0ichi938 9 ай бұрын
I think the real problem is the music. The pre-release wasn’t bad, but it can only cater to kpop fans. American teenagers will never tune in for cute Twice-like music, and the only following Vcha is ever gonna have at thas point is of kpop fans, which completely defies the concept of a “global girl group”. And before anyone comes in with the “they’re too young!” excuse, just think of new jeans. They make good music, heavily inspired by western music styles, with themes and sounds that teenagers can relate to and enjoy. Still, I wish them to be successfull
@soomi
@soomi 9 ай бұрын
My ideal line up would've been so different. All in all I agree this was confusing on who this was for and if this would've been a kpop group or just an American group inspired by the kpop formula. But we've all seen how in the UK kaachi ended. Not enough people cared and similar now I don't see enough people care for this final group either. JYP was so poor at selecting members and honestly we didn't even see enough auditions to know what we even missed out on. Either way I don't like the debut song either. I'll be fully supporting Gina's song instead.
@jujushook5487
@jujushook5487 9 ай бұрын
KA2 should have been their Debut Name
@unive007
@unive007 9 ай бұрын
You're so right
@Ruby_Spacek
@Ruby_Spacek 9 ай бұрын
wait whaaat I feel LIKE THEY ARE ALL SO CLOSE I do not get that vibe at all they seem very natural together despite age differences
@gojosolos__
@gojosolos__ 9 ай бұрын
Gina and Kristina shouldve debuted not kendall
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