I wanted one of these SO BADLY when they were announced. I still think it's one of Apple's most beautiful case designs.

"If you see liquid, unplug and get service" Literally sees liquid spots right next to it.

Epic dad look. The whole outfit and the face he makes carrying it. The slouch. It’s amazing keep doing what you’re doing.

2019 Mac Pro - *cheese grater* 2013 Mac Pro - *trash can* PowerMac G5 - *SPACE HEATER*

that's some overclocked core i9 power consumption

The G3-G5 towers reminded me so much of the old Apple // systems. So easy to get into and mess around with and upgrade.

2:05 My face when I wake up in the morning lol

"I mean, I love the attention to detail that they put into constructing the case and the internals of it, which Apple is pretty much well known for that..." Today they are known for constructing their computers with such attention to detail that they are almost impossible to repair, so you just have to buy a new one. ;)

I've been waiting so long for another one of these videos!

@The 8-Bit Guy There's something wrong with that system. I own a G5 and they aren't loud at all, quite to the contrary. Either that system is full of dust (also check the water cooling's radiator) or there's a problem with the fan controller, or the temperature sensor, which makes the fans run on absolut full blast. In that case, it needs thermal recalibration.

My Power MAC G5 runs very smoothly with no loud fans at all. Mine looks just like yours and it’s quiet and doesn’t consume that much energy. I think yours had a cooling problem. I could see water stains at start. The best was dual CPU 2 GHZ with 16 Gig ram. Looks exactly the same but the cooling was very reliable. The fans only run high if there is a serious cooling problem. The quad 2.5 which is the one you tested consumes so much power and is very noisy when cooling is faulty. I think you tested a bad model

8-bit guy: This machine is heavy. The new Mac pro: Hold my beer

Putting the machine under the desk will make it act as a resonating body and thus amplify the noise. Also, the heat that the Mac creates is stuck down there which again causes the fans to run even faster because the vents breath in the already warm air which has been pushed out of the case in the first place. It's probably better to put it somewhere to the side of the desk and not underneath.

If you think that thing sucks, I have a twelve year old space heater that takes over 30 seconds to open task maneager

I had one of these and it was a great computer! When we finally replaced it, I took it apart and gutted it, and was amazed at how easy it was to swap everything!

The dual processor G5s would require a thermal calibration procedure to be run if a processor was replaced, or if it had been swapped in position with the other one. It's a special procedure on that machines copy of AHT. I think it flags the condition when you enter AHT. There is no warning in the OS about it, but the fans run at a higher baseline until the calibration is run. There is also a sensor for the clear plastic door. It's a small silver strip in a depression in the plastic molding. If that strip is missing, you will also have higher baseline fan operation.

Man that G5 is a lot cleaner than most of Druaga1's, but it probably wasn't ripped out of a skip

When I was going through the film program in college, my professors insisted that these were the computers of choice for film editing and all things media related. As a result, these were the machines we were trained on. So I have a bit of a nostalgia for the PowerMac G5. I remember the one thing my professor had said when he was talking about these machines that a lot of people in film would hoof these things around in the back of trucks and things and the G5 was built tough enough to handle it. He went as far as to say that they were "bullet proof." I don't know how much of that was true. But I remember these machines being a LOT quieter than what you described in the video. The only time I recall hearing that noise is if we suspected one of them had some cooling issues upon start up. We referred to it as "taking off." Whenever someone powered one of these up and we heard that noise, we'd say "It looks like you're taking off again."

I had one of these when they came out, and it was gloriously fast and quiet. I agree there is something wrong with this one - I had many units (we had over 50 at our NASA facility) and when the cpus failed they behaved like you are seeing.

Looking back at the Power Mc G5 some 17 years later, I remember when it was announced that it seemed very cool, being the fastest PowerPC-based Mac at the time, with Apple promising future versions with speeds of up to 5 GHZ. I would have bought one back then if money wasn’t a concern at the time. But by the time they announced that Apple would transition the Mac to Intel processors in 2005, it became clear that for a variety of reasons the G5 and PPC processors in general were going to be a dead end in terms of the Mac’s future. The G5 was so power hungry and heat generating that putting it in Mac laptops was a no-go and there just wasn’t any sign they Motorola or IBM (the other two members of the AIM alliance) would be able to fix that soon enough. Maybe the PPC processor could have been made more power per watt efficient in time but it just didn’t seem that Motorola & IBM were really invested in helping solve this issue at the time so I understand why they turned to Intel. Of course, given how the transition. To X86 gave us the ability to run MS Windows and X86 Linux Bistros without having to emulate an X86 CPU, then I think they made the right decision. So looking back, while I appreciate the cool case design of the G5, I really don’t have much nostalgia for the PPC G5 processor itself. It’s not like when Apple introduced the PPC processor in the early 90’s for high end Macs, addressing the wall that they were hitting in terms of speed/power of the original Motorola 68000 processor line. For me, I have little desire to own a working Powermac G5, though I could see myself taking the case and replacing the original G5 motherboard with modern PC Intel/AMD CPU-based motherboard and say running Windows 10 or a Linux distro on it. Unlike say the other historically notable Mac computers such as the original 128k Mac, iMac G3, Powermac G3, iBook G3, iMac G4 (flatscreen LCD lamp iMac), Mac Mini, iMac G5 flatscreen All-In-One, or trash can Mac Pro, which all have interesting case designs and other cool aspects to them make then collectors items, the G5 doesn’t IMO as the original cheese grater Intel-based Mac Pro has a simular cool case but it actually uses able to this day.

Ubuntu has an official port for powerPC architecture.

Never clicked on another video this fast, love this series!

I came back to this video and never realized how proper that you show the ghostbuster trailer when using it as analogy to YT performance on this machine, good job.

Man that’s a gorgeous case... if nothing else it’s a sexy side table/ bench.

For your information, as an owner of an F-350 Dually Diesel (as pictured), I get 18MPG highway driving at 65mph, 15MPG in my normal driving, and 13.5MPG when dealing with stop and go and low speed driving. I get 10.5MPG towing a 30 foot trailer down the interstate at highway speed. But then again, when you only want to spend money maintaining a single vehicle and you need that vehicle for things like towing, you drive it as your daily driver and learn to live with it. That said, I wouldn't want a desktop computer that's 200 times the weight of my cellphone and 10x slower....

Switching from Power to Intel was courageous. Removing the headphone jack from the iphone is PR.

I like watching reenactments of vintage experiences of the olden days, like "going to the mall".

Liquid Cooling System is Faulty it has been leaking hence fans running at Optimum to compensate and over heating with excessive power consumption. You basically tested a faulty Mac. I have one and it runs very quiet and smoothly

yours is fast becoming one of my favourite youtube channels mate

It's odd that you couldn't get debian loaded. I've run debian on that machine. It installed fine and ran great. Chromium 64 bit version ran and played full HD you tube just fine. Something's up with that box you had. Most of those G5's have had the cooling system fail by now. I had several of them in the marketing dept. where I used to work and they all failed with green coolant leaking out and running down into the power supply at the bottom of the case.

I've been a professional motion graphics designer for just over 15 years and I had one of these models, fully loaded, brand new. It was a night vs. day difference for Maya and Aftereffects rendering at the time. This was around the time that the company I was working for was moving to 100% HD, so motion graphics on the dual core (especially in 3D) wasn't cutting it, since you were processing 4 times the pixels. the thing was a work horse too, I would have it background rendering 3D scenes and image sequences almost non-stop. the only reason I stopped using it was to move over to the first gen MacPro 8-core... which in my opinion was definitely faster, but less stable than the Quad G5. They didn't really hit that magic-in-the-bottle factor again till the 12-core 2012 model. I threw everything at that the 5,1 12-core for 5 solid years and it always powered through... all that to say, a better real world test on your machine wouldn't be youtube or facebook... it would be it's use as an entry-level graphics or engineering machine. the software has changed quite a bit but most of the core functions are the same. You could probably spend around $200-$300 and get one of these machines with adobe CS5 and Maya 2009 pre-installed and hand it over to an enthusiastic high-school or college student to learn the ropes and save the initial $2K+ system & software price tag for a new Mac and CC license.

Really thanks for your videos, as always learning more of the stories behind the computers

I recently picked up a iMac G5 from a local electronic store. It works well for the money paid.

This computer is the cause of global warming.

Excellent review! Thanks for testing tenfourfox on the G5 and confirming it is useable. With G4 KZfaq was just not useable just as you said! Also, the heat tests and sound tests was very important to know!! A computing heater under the desk..ouch.

I had new G5 quad core 2.5ghz from Apple in 2006 with a 30inch studio display, ran it for 10 years no probs. Merely upgraded the ram and booted from SSD to get more use out of it. Cost me a whole of lot of money back in the day and eventually sold it to a friend for peanuts, but the aluminium case, omg, best case ever!

Hey 8-bit Guy, you should do a video on how MIDI files work.

**Is watching on a iMac G4**

Great video about this old but lovely machine :D I got one for 10€ some time ago, installed Linux and it worked fine but it was so slow (1.6GHz) that I didn't have any use for it. I finally decided to reuse this beautiful case and put modern hardware into it. I didn't destroy the case in this process and reused the PSU. It even has the original front and back panel with (not all) working ports. I also kept the G5 hardware in case I ever want to put it back together. I love it so much because it's one of the greatest designs Apple has ever made. Now enough from my side, I hope this G5 will allways stay in our hearts :D

I have a powermac g5 dual ( and 7 spares, 4 of them fully functional), air cooled. I still use one to run, beautifully, a protools HD system that slots into a pci-x slot, that cost me $20,000 in 2002-ish, Thats why I use one. I have run 65 stereo audio tracks, virtually no latency, all at once. It cant run heaps of plugins all at once on lots of tracks though. BUT in order to not re purchase high end A/D converters and pre amps, I still use the G5 with SSDrives. Thanks for your vids, I like em heaps.

Love the thumbnail! :D

I miss this series. Wish he'd do some more.

I bought a base-model cheese grater G5 tower back in 2004 which came with Panther. Later upgraded to Leopard and it got me through to 2010. Never had a bit of trouble with it and still have it on a shelf to this day. Bought an Emac for my everyday computer at the same time. Still have that as well - All subsequent macs have been upgraded and replaced but still love the early tech.

Loved your conclusion image :-) !

LCS is broken That is reason why you cannot install linux on it. that is reason why it runs that loud. actually idling this machine should sound very close to aquarium. Aquarium is NOT loud. I have had around 30-50 of PowerMac G5 and inthat I have had at least 10 Quad Cores. Only those with defective LCS are loud and they tend to lockup on normal usage or at most at higher usage, no serious stressing needed to lockup with defective LCS.

I was enrolled in a “multimedia design” class [Photoshop to Flash] at the local tech college for high school credits in 12th grade. We had about 15 PCs for the 1.0 class and G5’s for those in the advanced 2.0 class. The teacher complained about the amount of heat just those five produced to the “Dean” for the first month. It wasn’t until he had him come in for a “demonstration” of student projects, having him sit in the cornier with those five towers blasting at him. A couple days later we walked in to several A/C towers haha.

Dude the picture of you sitting like the thinker is amazing

Still love them! Another great vid!!

Its 2019 and I still use my late 2005 dual core 2.3 ( upgraded to 2.5ghz). Id really love to find a quad one day.

I would love to walk in a Apple Store and go over to the Genius Bar only to find David in his Apple blue shirt with my serviced Power Mac G5 only for him to say to me, "Hey man, got your G5 fixed and got Linux installed on here. Sure was a heavy beast walking through the mall where you dropped it off at. I was able to take some tech photos, you wanna see?." :)

we had one of those. Fantastic system. My wife LOVED the heat the system generated as she is usually cold nature.

My dad used to have one of these back in 2009 and I found it in his garage last Christmas.

Shoutout to my uncle who is definitely “the kinda guy who daily drives a Ford F-250” I know that’s not the exact quote but oh well.

YOU HAVE TO OPEN IT! It might contain the best disclaimer/note MIGHT

I keep coming back to this video again and again. There’s something really good with these old Power Mac G5s and the cheese grater Mac Pro.

וואוווווווווו פעם ראשונה שאני רואה ערוץ יוטיוב בעברית ומתלהב!!!! אתה אדיר!!!

You have conclued so fast the capabilities of this machine. The RISC power 4 architecture was made for huge floating points operation (with ALTIVEC, vectoriel unit). The software behind theses chips were not really optimised for vectoriel operations. In add, a lot of PPC releases was not trully 64 Bits. An huge amount of RAM in this baby is almost a waste. Keep in mind, that a "fast" machine is not necessarly a fast youtube or facebook plateform. G5 quad do really well on final cut or logic pro studio. ... It's obious that all theses arguments are not the problem of the final customer wich paid a lot of money for this. ... The problem for PPC fail is ... Software and micro code for making this machine quiet ;-) (and a lot of disinterest from IBM) I own a lot of Silicon Graphics, SUN and super computer. An application made for a dedicated hardware is always ... FAST. It was more easy, at the time, to have softwares optimised for ... X86/X64 Best regards from France.

I learned to slowly hate apple over the years, but i can't deny their old computers looked amazing! i had a mac pro mid 2010 and it was beautiful. But i can't forgive them for the insane price, considering the obsolete hardware. Nothing against the OS though; i still prefer OSX to windows for NON-GAMING tasks

How is this man so pure?

Sort of related, but I use my dual G5 on a daily basis. Photoshop runs like a charm for my Nikon D70 raw files and the Apple Studio display looks great. She's sitting on my desk looking beautiful, needs a little cleaning up the stickers residue on the left side panel but other then that it's in pristine condition, even on the inside. Never seen a cleaner old computer like this. Lovely. Yes it's loud and hot but hey, I love it. Had only to pay around $105 (€85) for the entire set so I'm a happy camper! Love your video's so thank you!

Dude I have one... Its nowhere near that noisy... In fact it's dead quiet... and its my primary computer. I've been using it since 03

its time to do updated 2019 version of this clip

this is the first video I saw after subscribing to the 8 bit guy. Time flies.

mentioning space heater computers the amd fx based computers blasted out a ton of heat it was really nice during the winter it really saved me on the heating bills

When I worked in broadcast a few years ago I ended up having to e-waste about 8 of those. It killed me. That was my dream machine for several years. Kinda similar to the crush I once had on the Mac II CI. They were maxed out machines too, since they were from the graphics department of a broadcast facility. So they al had max ram and whatever the max video card was they could support. For a while I schemed to snag two off of the ewaste heap. It wouldn't have been a problem since I ran the IT stuff. Then corporate came up with a new directive that we couldn't donate ewaste or allow any employees to take home old machines. They had us put the computers in a room with video cameras like in some movie. For old computers on the way to the dump! Oh well.

A better analogy would be a Ford F-350, but instead of a 400 HP engine capable of towing 5 tons, it has the engine of a Ford Tempo.

Best preview thumbnail ever!!

I am always impressed of how loud this machine is, and it is liquid cooled!

You can't just say carte blanche that the mac mini was flat out faster than the top of the line G5. There is so much nuances behind such a claim. It appears that the G5's chipsets lack hardware acceleration for modern video codecs (or OS for GPU rendering), which explains YT and video playback performance being highly CPU-bound. The Power PC architecture is a RISC instruction architecture as well, and you can't just straight up compare clock speeds for a performance comparison. You'd have to compare SMP, branch prediction algorithms, RAM speeds, bus architectures, etc... A more apt comparison would have been some simple benchmarks on complex operations - GPU performance tests on compatible supported OGL demos, compression/decompression of large archives, calculating pi to so many digits, etc...

6:34 OMG the old youtube player!

I just got two of these off Craigslist for like $30, and my 2000's self would be so happy, as I always wanted one of these back in the day. I'll keep you guys posted on how they run, one I think I'll turn into a backup file server or something.

Thanks for this compare👍🏾

the point of having one of these is nostalgia, running old software and so on... for 2016 web browsing... well, nope.

"really fancy video card" it's an x1950. bruh.

I had a PowerMac G5 dual 2.0 GHz and it wasn’t loud at all. Only when really stressing it it would turn up the fans and become very loud indeed. With normal workflows it was really very very quiet, specially compared to PC’s of the era. I totally loved my G5!

yo should make more of these! good work!

0:55 I love you, David.

I will like to build a pc in that case, I love that case.

I was wanting one of these when they first came out--they seemed to be the perfect workstation solution at the time, but the cost was prohibitive.

I own 2 G5's and love them. I have 1 dual core and 1 quad core both late 2005. These G5's are louder than a house fan when they are cooling. When I bought one of mine, when you turned it on it did not make the apple chime at startup. It turned out that one of the two memory cards was damaged and once I replaced it I never had a problem from it. I mainly use them for storing and backing up family pics. The safari browser still connects to some sites, but I found that tenfourfox works far better. I always loved the style, build quality and craftsmanship of the G5 and the Mac Pro.

3:59 when I farted up lol

Don't confuse the G5 with that case. They went right on using that case for the next 6 - 8 years with the Intel power macs. And there were no heat issues. And the mini while great for simple day to day use would overheat if you tried using it for video editing.

In my University they have some still running. There’s an audiovisual archive sou they use it for transferring different video formats to digital.

i actually bought a dual g5 processor one for about $50 from facebook marketplace. it just needed a hard drive and an os(which i had already because i collect the older macs) and it surprisingly run very well

8 bit guy: works fine Krazy ken: *POWERMAC EXPLODES*

The 8 bit guy got it wrong in this one. Consumers bought these machines for their expandability. They were used for high end video and graphics tasks. Third party add ons are why professional designers, musicians and compositors used these machines. Sure everything he said is true its just nothing else works as well as a maxed out tower Mac.

Ver y good 8. Bit guy youre a genius

i watch this every year at least once. its been 5 years

Most people don’t realize that the g5 was an ibm chip. The x box was a g6! I love my dual g5! I still run my entire recording studio on it. Only issue is finding plug ins for it. Windows always caused glitches in my recordings... also this was the last computer with the higher voltage sound cards.... in my opinion, it is far superior for recording than a new machine. I run reaper and it uses the 64 bits.... I must admit I do not hook this machine to the internet. On older macs I had they stopped updating the flash so I wound up running Classzilla.... runs like an android phone browser... I was never a Mac guy until I started recording. It seems to be able to push the mastering on mixes louder with the high voltage sound card with less distortion.

I would like to build my regular PC using this case. Will be a cool project to do someday.

The guy I roomed with in my first apartment in college had one of these. It was an imposing, impressive machine and made my little Windows PC with a Prescott look like a toy.

The quality of your videos is just off the wall people like you make KZfaq a better website

I still have one, the key to its usefulness is those PCIe slots, you can get PCIe audio I/O cards and the accompanying hardware for a steal ever since Apple removed them. Mine runs 4 MOTU HD192s and can capture 48 channels simultaneously of 192kHz audio. You wouldn't want to edit on it but for capture you can't beat the price. As for why Apple left PowerPC it was because IBM and Motorola the builders of PowerPC chips moved to other markets and left Apple swinging in the wind. Motorola's part of PowerPC lives on in Freescale processors and IBM went on to Cell processors, both of which cater to smaller devices. When I got my first Quad G5 it arrived without an install disk or hard drive and I tested it out by taking a firewire cable and attaching it to a 2003 TiBook and booting from the laptop in external hard drive mode. Even though the laptop had only a single G4 operating system it booted the G5 no problem and no pesky messages, try that with a PC. When that TiBook finally died I was able to remove the HD and attach it permanently to a Quad G5 with a simple adapter cable and can get at that old system any time I need it.

Why not use an external video capture card?

Love the thumbnail, Mr Rodin...

Of all the trailers you could've shown, you've shown the most disliked.

Still use a Dual G5 with 8GB of RAM and a Nvidia Geforce 7800. My MacBook Pro 3,1 is faster, but not a lot faster, and I think, temperture wise, run equally as hot. My PowerBook G4 ran cooler than both, and ran 480p KZfaq videos just fine when software like "ClickToPlugin" and "MacTubes" still worked. It's a real shame not much software was optimized for the G5 or even Altivec. For OS X PPC browsing I recommend "Tenfourfox" or "Safari Webkit". As for Linux, try replacing your Nvidia graphics with an ATI/AMD card.

I've always thought that was a beautiful machine, and I really want one. Then I realized I drive an f250 daily and laughed at your comparison. Nail on the head.

Wanted one of these so bad back in the day. I was sick of the issues with windows and my Matrox RT2500 real-time editing card. The G5 and final cut were the way to go. The only problem was the cost. I want one of these now for the same reason I also want an SGI Onyx. Just to see what I missed. And by the way, F350 crew cab dually for my daily.

My G5 isn't loud. Burst of fan speed on start up and then a generally unnoticeable hum. Perhaps one of the sensors was fucked. Something as simple as the transparent plastic inner plate or case side not being seated properly will make the fans have an austistic fit and totally spaz out - in some cases the machine will power but won't boot if the machine isn't happy about something. Which is generally in my experience every other time I switch it on.