Adrien Broner vs Fernando Quintero (Robbery)

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12 жыл бұрын

8th of May, 2009.........Fort Worth, Texas
That was a gift decision in my opinion. I scored the fight pretty clearly for Fernando Quintero

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@bluemonkjd 10 жыл бұрын

"Watch how wide the legs of Broner get," Teddy notes here. It's still a deep, fundamental flaw of AB.

@joeybanks3898 4 жыл бұрын

wide feet get more leverage and power in the shots prolly didnt know cuz ya dont fight

@dreamsquad0735 4 жыл бұрын

joey Banks 😂😂😂

@walter1893 4 жыл бұрын

@The Kid You actually have less power with that stance. You only have more power in you´re jab and also you can´t move laterally well, with that stance.

@walter1893 4 жыл бұрын

@The Kid No it doesn´t. If someone would push you from the side you would fall or go off balance with that stance. Same goes for a big left hook, its common sense. Also you can´t twist you´re body and legs into you´re punch if you stand like that. You´re back leg is so far away and you´re sideways against you´re opponent so you don´t have much leverage on you´re left hook. Its good for moving forward and backwards quickly and you have more power on you´re jab. But its not good for sitting down on you´re punches and lateral movement. I know from experience and also its common sense. Heres a example of perfect stance. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ipann5Wkv7a-Yps.html

@walter1893 4 жыл бұрын

@The Kid Thats a flaw and not a good stance buddy. Any great trainer like steward, futch, arcel would have told you the same. Theres nothing you can do in this stance that you can´t do in a proper stance. But in a proper stance you can move laterally also and be in balance and be able to punch at the same time. Wilder had that stance and he was constantly of balance and he has to jump forward to get power in that right hand. We also saw that in the broner vs maidana fight. I also think teddy atlas who pointed it out knows also little more than you. This is boxing 101.

@mariosanchez8236 5 жыл бұрын

It is awesome how many comments were left during what appears to be the time frame after the Maidana fight was announced and when it was fought

@Combatshock 11 жыл бұрын

i train with Quintero, such an awesome guy and amazing sparring partner. I keep urging him to get back into the ring, he'll be 30 this year.

@FairShake 12 жыл бұрын

close fight, and i never seen this fight. good upload

@bucvet1979 11 жыл бұрын

Teddy had it a draw how was it a "ROBBERY"!

@lnputfunny 3 жыл бұрын

I always remember this, makes me sad Quintero quit after this a case of what could have maybe been.

@nathancano3551 2 жыл бұрын

Why did Fernando quit?

@augustoromero2378 Жыл бұрын

why quit bro?

@lnputfunny Жыл бұрын

@@augustoromero2378 injustice, fell out of love with the sport? Who knows. One thing to be said is when you have unfair decisions go against you it can impact you. Quintero looked like a decent fighter.

@daallo1 11 жыл бұрын

Quintero is a talent that just got lost...Who knows? He could've been a top boxer today...

@ButBlackDynamite 11 жыл бұрын

You do realise most of the time when moving up in weight you either loose speed or power or maybe both. Also its his first time at welterweight and he picked a guy thats never been KO'ed and is stylistically a bad match for Broner. Time will tell if Broner has his power cuz his speed is there.

@OfficialBANGTDS 11 жыл бұрын

How can this be a robbery when Broner won the 1st 4 rounds easy and he won the 8th round 5-3 Broner this shit aint rocket science

@bigtime2346 6 жыл бұрын

That was a good fight. Any other old fights I can find of Broner?

@vidz06 11 жыл бұрын

Thing is people overlook that broner was 19 in his 8th fight. I can see Reese watched this footage and try to mimic quintero and forgot this was years ago great fighters grow from performances like this. Since 2002 Mayweather fought so many guys that tried the Castillo strategy and either got stopped or embarrassed for 12 rounds. They forgot that was 11 years ago.

@endurex4180 9 жыл бұрын

Adrien style was waaayy better his style & skills won the fight. Close though!

@masonbrown9388 5 жыл бұрын

R1. Broner R2. Quintero R3. Quintero R4. Broner R5. Quintero R6. Quintero R7. Broner R8. Broner 76-76

@Dollah124 11 жыл бұрын

I scored only 2 rounds for Broner and this is more of a robbery than the Ponce fight.

@emekonen 11 жыл бұрын

The problem is that refs have a specific critera for scoring fights, which often differs from how we fans see the fight.

@TheCakoholic 8 жыл бұрын

I remember watching this fight many years ago live and i didn't know who Adrien Broner was and by the 3 round i stopped watch this fight and gave it to Quintero and changed the channel. Years later i seen Broner again and i was like remember this guy losing on ESPN Friday fights looked at his record and they gave him this win crazy.....WOW

@kevinmendez2660 2 жыл бұрын

You only watched the first 3 rounds 🤦🏽‍♂️

@TheChattounet Жыл бұрын

@@kevinmendez2660 lol exactly... people are so retarded... and it's not sure that AB lost the first 3 rounds neither

@johnparks2343 11 жыл бұрын

I remember watching this fight,didn't even know who Broner was and didn't know that he would be a notice fighter.

@tonyvstony7 7 жыл бұрын

They cherry picked the wrong guy

@MoneyMike203thousand 11 жыл бұрын

damm the quality is so bad it hurts to watch this. can someone tell me what rounds AB lost so I can go back and look them over that way.

@sgberta 10 жыл бұрын

My scorecard was exact same as Teddy's after 7. Last round seemed like it could of gone either way. Either 76-76 or 77-75 Quintero on my card.

@huakklise 12 жыл бұрын

listen bro, I dont care if Broner was in his prime back then or whether he is now in his prime or not yet. Fact is he lost that fight against Quintero WITHOUT A DOUBT. And I scored the Ponce de Leon for Ponce by 1 point also. so basically the fact is that Broner isnt undefeated. he is a hype job

@zebbedi 11 жыл бұрын

I think the problem is that some fans don't know how judges score fights or how to score them themselves. Broner won this fight on my scoring and he also won the De Leon fight. I think the 'robberies' have more to do with the jealousy of the person saying it than anything else.

@commishguy 11 жыл бұрын

What happened to Quintero? He was 7-0 going into this fight in 2009 and hasn't fought since. What happened to him? Why hasn't he fought since then?

@juggernaut44 11 жыл бұрын

I wonder who teddy gave it to at the end?

@soundjive 11 жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same thing, hasn't fought since this fight here, probably retired or maybe chronic injury.

@commishguy 11 жыл бұрын

Broner won a majority decision. Two judges had it for Broner and one judge had it even. Judge: Arturo Velasquez 78-74 Judge: Michael Mitchell 77-75 Judge: Jesse Reyes 76-76

@kingdaleclarke 11 жыл бұрын

At the end of the third round those flurries by Broner were all missing.

@BIGFACTSENT 11 жыл бұрын

Quintero didn't land one decent punch man

@landrewilkinson2919 3 жыл бұрын

For real I didn't see any hard punches he never hurt Broner to me🥊🥊

@zn23000 12 жыл бұрын

Good fight, I felt Quintero won as well. Is that Gabriel Sarmiento as Fernando's trainer? Looks like it to me, he's one of the best in the game.

@rojojr 11 жыл бұрын

WOW I watch FNF every week and I dont even remember this one. That makes 2 MEX fighters whom hes robbed : De Leon and Quinterro

@DaKingsMusic 11 жыл бұрын

Again, the judges were probably looking for accuracy as opposed to punches landed. Clearly, Broner's landing percentage was higher

@FreakyBedro 10 жыл бұрын

Broner got dismantled in here bullshit decision

@JCGCINC 12 жыл бұрын

I scored the exact same thing with maybe round 7. Either way Broner clearly lost this fight. There is a blue print to beat Broner. If you have a solid chin, a good jab and right hand you can beat him. You have to get Broner to turn to protect from your left hook and than WAM crack him with a right overhand hook. At 135 & 140 he is going to have serious problems. They better keep cherry picking opponents for him.

@kanyeezys 11 жыл бұрын

If this was such a robbery where is Fernando Quintero now?

@princeeris1780 Жыл бұрын

Retired because of how political and corrupt boxing is This is like asking why would sauce go on spaghetti

@cmoneyno5 11 жыл бұрын

You guys need to look @ 13:52 and 20:13... 1st 4 rounds Quintero outlands Broner 72-40 Rounds 4-6 Quintero outlands Broner 70-29 through 6 rounds punch totals are: Quintero 124 Broner 59 For every punch Broner lands Quintero lands 2.13 punches, watching the fight Quintero is up 5-1 through 6 rounds, meaning he won. Fight is similar to Floyd vs Castillo only difference is Floyd was actually blocking Castillo's punches were as Broner was eating alot of punches.

@SethGoTribe 11 жыл бұрын

The only robbery here was that 100's of 1000's got to see Broner on TV for Free.

@seansworldkc 11 жыл бұрын

I scored 3 rounds for broner 4 for quintero last round ???. Whatever happened to quintero??? Never heard of him since

@tkirk24 11 жыл бұрын

you do know this broners 9th fight? He is on 27 now headed to 28, both new hungry rookies.. and broners 4th fight in that year.. please calm down

@bucvet1979 11 жыл бұрын

Why didn't you show Teddy's final score or even the final render decision? You are going to far blinded by hate.

@rtuumm 11 жыл бұрын

where have you been? he's been doing all of what you just said for like a year or more now.

@ibhof2 12 жыл бұрын

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@rpeck2832 11 жыл бұрын

i dont think Fernando has fought since this fight.

@ButBlackDynamite 11 жыл бұрын

No has KO'ed Malignaggi and then you expect a lightweight to do so

@datdude330330 11 жыл бұрын

He doesn't even fight the same that's what great fighters do they evolve

@bluemonkjd 10 жыл бұрын

Broner should recover fine from the Maidana fight considering it's his third loss.

@MRRAY84 11 жыл бұрын

Why? Because he had a close fight?

@DaKingsMusic 11 жыл бұрын

Neither fighter did any serious damage. Quintero was clearly more aggressive this fight but I think the judges were looking for more accuracy than punches landed. Broner threw less punches but more of his landed his opponents were vice versa

@thenefarious7453 10 жыл бұрын

I thought the Ponce De Leon fight was a draw but it could have gone either way (Broner being the american fighter, gets away with the decision of course). I know this is an old fight, and Broner has improved but the flaws he shows in this fight are still there. This guy made him look like mitt work. The key to beating broner is to circle around him and only come inside to throw combinations, afterso, step immediately out. Never stay inside with Broner, as that's what he wants you to do.

@brucebooy 10 жыл бұрын

yo i was saying the same thing ... this guys dont like broner so they go to every page with his fight and say he lost. the only time they dont argue that he lost is if he tko someone. i swear go to every page with a fight of broner that went the distance for example ponce de leon, Quintero, malignaggi etc

@Transformers217 11 жыл бұрын

You're only mentioning those rounds. I thought this fight was a draw, but it could of gone to Quintero. The problem is that most of his punches weren't landing, and they were not very hard punches. Broner landed some of the more accurate, harder punches. So I see why Broner won this fight.

@bubbathenaslover 12 жыл бұрын

quintero has such a weird fighting style

@PHILLYHEAT215 12 жыл бұрын

Funny because I actually scored the 3 round for Quintero. To be honest this wasn't an easy fight to judge. I gave Broner rounds 1, 6 & 7 and I gave Quintero rounds 2, 3, 5 & 8, the 4th round I scored a draw.

@fredizzle23 11 жыл бұрын

Broner got schooled by a last minute fighter smh

@834373 11 жыл бұрын

Gave round 1,4,6,7 and 8 to Broner. Would be interested to hear from a Quintero guy which rounds they thought Quintero won? Broner is not Floyd Mayweather though, he's beatable.

@peacefulcarl 10 жыл бұрын

Broner got his ass spank... Maidana will destroy Broner..

@NormenBatez 10 жыл бұрын

It was a very close fight and I could certainly see how someone would have had Fernando Quintero winning.

@ultradevon04 11 жыл бұрын

He has surely gotten sharper though. He doesn't seem to waste so many punches and he can use his foot work when needed. He definitely isn't perfect but has gotten better. He will be able hang with the big boys but I don't seem him dominating them. There are a lot of tough fights out their waiting for him.

@freezysworld 11 жыл бұрын

Wow and I thought that Broner only lost was against Ponce De Leon which was a robbery as well. Broner is way too overrated in my opinion.

@AdamGomez87 11 жыл бұрын

Did Teddy Atlas flip out?

@TheGreatJuicebox 11 жыл бұрын

and this guy came in on 4 days notice.

@jaredcap7 12 жыл бұрын

how about broner vs gesta?

@cmoneyno5 11 жыл бұрын

You need to look @ 20:13 again ... "Quintero in the black and red trunks has outlanded Broner 70 -29 in the last 3 rounds (rounds 4,5 & 6)"

@JESSExERA 11 жыл бұрын

True but that only explains one of his fights. But what about the ponce de leon fight??? I 100% believe Broner lost to ponce (even more then bradley did to pacquaio) because like the Pauli fight, Yeah he looked great and blocked everything ...BUT HE WASNT SCORING

@42Keez 10 жыл бұрын

Unbiased score from me. rd 1 Broner (controlled pace) rd. 2 quintero (clearly) rd 3 10 -10 (no real separation) rd 4 Broner (controlled pace) rd 5 Quintero (clearly) rd 6 Quintero (controlled pace) rd 7 broner (more effective punching) rd 8 last round, Broner (no REAL separation, but broner landed more, and more often) Broner 77 - Quintero 76 Broner wins in my book, this isn't robbery. The guy who made the title of this scored on overall fight, which isn't how u score boxing.

@BenGenio 11 жыл бұрын

If this is the problem, maybe his opponents need to start knocking him down/out, no excuses.

@CarimboHanky 11 жыл бұрын

watching this for the first time, the title caught my eye so i decide to score it... after 8 sloppy rounds i had it 77-75, 5-3 for Quintero. i gave broner the opening round then quintero took over 2-6round, then got tired and lose the last 2. one judge gave it 78-74 to broner 0_o wonder what fight was he watching... maybe they got impressed by broner's hand speed and inaccuracy.

@MoneyMike203thousand 11 жыл бұрын

i went through with the bad quality and watched it and i scored it 5-3 Broner with him taking the last 2 rounds. hardly a robbery...

@rpeck2832 11 жыл бұрын

Donaire is too small for Broner. Donaire fights at 122, recently he was even lower at 118. Broner would beat him. Also I like Gamboa as much as the next guy but his punches are more wide and he has defensive flaws. Broner would take advantage of that. Plus Gamboa has only fought a couple times above featherweight (126). Broner clearly outgrew 130 and after two fights at lightweight (135) hes moving up two divisions to welterweight (147). IMO too big and too skilled for Gamboa.

@blakymoe 11 жыл бұрын

If you scored rounds for Quintero is was because of the commentators and not because of what he was doing in the ring. He was only landing at the most 25% of his punches and nothing heavy. you can say he outworked him but he did not score more effective punches

@biltmorerich 11 жыл бұрын

This is not a robbery.

@graj5909 11 жыл бұрын

thats already 2 Mexicans that have beaten Broner. De Leon and Quintero.

@7thvenom 11 жыл бұрын

Very close,they need a rematch ....broner would be way too much for fernando now

@seandonnelly5272 6 жыл бұрын

Had it a draw. Thought it was fairly easy to score, but wouldn't call the decision too egregious.

@raymichael1175 7 жыл бұрын

No robbery that guy wasn't landing Broner was rolling 99% of his punches. The commentators always persuade you dummies with their bogus bs.

@MrSirFluffy 7 жыл бұрын

Really? They are trying to push this bum? If anything they would be bias for Broner, since he is the cash cow and they are trying to build him up. This was a clear robbery.

@raymichael1175 7 жыл бұрын

MrSirFluffy Wow you blind

@raymichael1175 7 жыл бұрын

MrSirFluffy Turn the sound off and watch the fight yourself without any sound then get back at me.

@christophermiller7532 4 жыл бұрын

@@raymichael1175 LOL! Broner was out-landed 154-83 (overall), 29-22 (jabs) and 125-61 (power). Sound off doesn't change shit. Even two years later, this reply is lame. BTW when you go to a fight, do you turn off how a punch sounds? No. Turning off the volume means you miss other parts but hey... 99%. LOLZ!

@perezgman13 11 жыл бұрын

Broner didn't want to give him a rematch. Stating that he beat the rap outta Quintero. Quintero looked sloppy because he fought a different style for Broner .. Quintero just came back to the gym, OXNARD

@StreetArtillery 11 жыл бұрын

Quientero took this fight on a 4 day notice? Awe, HellNaw WTFMF?? Is that even legal?

@KingKarolus222 10 жыл бұрын

all I gether from these comments is that the masses don't know how to watch boxing

@Blackjesus3 11 жыл бұрын

SO WHO WON? DID DEMARCO GET KNOCKED OUT?

@Domo01SS 11 жыл бұрын

Scored it 6 to 2, or 78-74 for Quintero.

@PHILLYHEAT215 12 жыл бұрын

Too close to be a "robbery", but i did score it for Quintero by 1 round.

@simozonelayer 11 жыл бұрын

Broner's legs are terrible here, he's got little Floyd-isms or Toney-isms here and there with the shoulder but it isn't working that well for him yet; still getting hit with looping rights. I think he's better now but still needs a real test, not sure with whom though.

@huakklise 12 жыл бұрын

lol. ur a broner fan, thats the only reason why u would say something like that. no way broner won more than 2 rounds in this fight. that was a robbery

@logic2000 11 жыл бұрын

This fight wasn't a robbery.

@kassidycarnage1891 10 жыл бұрын

they should have a rematch with the new and improved broner. so the haters can have more to bitch about.

@chadrack28 12 жыл бұрын

I scored the first round for Broner thats it. If you really wanted to be generous you could have gave Broner the 7th . That's pretty much it def a robbery Broner was lucky enough to be in Texas and have Al Haymond on his side :/

@ADifferentDave 8 жыл бұрын

Rd 1 - 10-9, Broner Rd 2 - 10-9, Quintero Rd 3 - 10-9, Quintero Rd 4 - 10-9, Quintero Rd 5 - 10-9, Quintero Rd 6 - 10-9, Quintero Rd 7 - 10-9, Quintero Rd 8 - 10-9, Broner 78-74, Quintero

@jonnyarmstrong4028 6 жыл бұрын

Brett Michael I had it 5-3 Broner as well, close, but he won.

@Johnjackson-zj7sp 5 жыл бұрын

robbed ,Quintero win the fight!!

@ibhof2 12 жыл бұрын

check out round 7: Teddy Atlas is cheerleading for Broner: he says its Broner's best round when in truth Quintero is winning it

@rpeck2832 11 жыл бұрын

Fernando Quintero would get destroyed now. I scored the fight 77-75 Quintero. Or 5 rounds to 3. I have Broner winning rounds 1, 7, and 8. Round 4 was close but Quintero had the effective aggression and ring generalship which also helped carry him rounds 2 thru 6 IMO. I wouldnt call it a robbery, I guess, but a Quintero win or a draw is a more realistic scorecard IMO then Broner winning.

@mikealsouthtx 10 жыл бұрын

he doesn't fight for knockouts, broner clearly has a high boxing IQ .. he makes the fight easy for his self and takes home the win.. you dont know shit about boxing enough to know the almost all of the punches were blocked or rolled off the shoulder.

@cmoneyno5 11 жыл бұрын

@ 20:13 Tessitore "Quintero in the black and red trunks has outlanded Broner 70-29 the last 3 rounds (rounds 4,5 & 6)"

@freezysworld 11 жыл бұрын

Must get annoying fighting against Broner he screams each time he throws a punch !

@sirchuyy5047 11 жыл бұрын

Este Broner no se debe comparar con Floyd, ni serca.

@emilioortega6041 11 жыл бұрын

Good thing youtube is around Broner lost this fight gift decision early in his carrier though still doesnt make it right.

@truBoxingfan 12 жыл бұрын

u are aware manny was about the same age and he missed weight too ? missing weight is common it happens all the time . every fighter who you consider great has missed weight at least once in there career

@realtalkboxing1587 12 жыл бұрын

haha. no, it will be YOU that is heart broken because u will constantly hope for him to lose, yet never get the chance to see it. well, at least not any time soon. what are u gonna say when he beats the hell out of Demarco? is that not considered a "step up"?

@Geenius24 11 жыл бұрын

Broner with all that screaming, you can tell his struggling

@ironmike-putsallkindavideo7840 12 жыл бұрын

still looked pretty good to be only 19 years old, fighting a more experienced 25 year old boxer,, and today in 2012, Broner is a much more stronger , better , harder punching fighter, who would now beat and KO Fernando Quintero easy if they fought again..

@MrSmurf459 11 жыл бұрын

I had it 4 rounds to 4, and i think teddy scored it the same. The thing about this fight it resembled an amateur boxing where they were both throwing a lot of ineffective punches! I believe Quintero had a better work rate but threw a lot of punches that didn't really hurt Broner. And although Broner threw alot of ineffective punches as well i feel he threw a LITTLE more effective punches. If you look at the replay there were times where Quintero was stunned. But i dont think he was hurt.

@JMDinamitaMarquez 12 жыл бұрын

It's funny that I clicked on your profile and you are clearly a Broner fanboy who will soon be heartbroken when Broner gets Andre Berto'ed when he steps up the competition and fights somebody with a stiff jab and throws three and fours to the body. And you said Rios is trash yet he has proven more then Broner and you put together in this game.

@saintcruzin 10 жыл бұрын

If Broner really does handle the improved Maidana, I'll get off his case. He lost this one as well as DeLeon. Until that type, he's all mouth and overrated.