That sounds awesome. How did it work out? I am going to go look into that now haha

finalout99 thanks for watching yo!

+Ben Rush Thanks for watching. That is really good to hear. Just keep going. My first tank was the dumbest tank on the planet and at the time I was totally ignorant. Just keep reading and practicing.

+Laura Wrenn I knew this would help you out! Don't worry I didn't forget! Give me more ideas! LOL

+Bret Santucci Thanks for the input man. If you have any ideas or questions you need answered just let me know. I can do a video on it, or direct you to where you can find the info. Peace

+ADU Aquascaping So I'm trying to the circular flow now, switched over to my 425 from the 240 I was using. The flow is pretty strong now, but I feel like it may be a bit much for the fish. When I was using the gyre flow, I thought the middle was getting plenty of movement, but the sides didn't seem to get as much. Do you notice that also? I have a pretty standard tank that just has a pile of wood at about 1/3 point from the left. Nothing else to block flow. I'm thinking about running 2 Koralia 240's in addition to my lily pipe from my Fluval 406 instead of the one 425. What do you think it better? Previously I had my lily pipe in the front right and my 240 pump right under it, to kinda boost the lily's flow. The flow really slowed once it hit the other end of my tank though. This flow stuff just really is the bane of my existence and I think the last piece I'm missing in my tank.

Thanks, I may be back soon. Just need another tank set up! Scaling the business and my truck is in the shop, so just have to budget right now.

+elvisaquarium Glad to see you back and thanks for watching as always. The tank is really different now. I will have to show it off in my next video.

Joyce Wolan in the process of making a video. shot some footage today. Just busy with school. thanks for watching!

but I would like a popcap ...

+James Feenan no problem man.

+Liv in very good point, yes that is another aspect to why you want good circulation. That is interesting if you could get algae to grow in certain areas. Sounds like a fun experiment. I love algae as long as it is on a rock!

+Cichlid Stop Thanks, and nice Lab pic! I have always loved Labs.

Hey thanks for watching. Keep me posted and glad I could help

Yeah my sleeves were always wet. I need a new setup soon! Haven't had a tank for a bit

+j03yYunG Aquariums or I can direct people to your site/channel for a free large big green ball?.... Let me know. I can do a video on it and have always wanted to try Wabi.

+ADU Aquascaping LOL I that's a funny slogan. Right now I'm still running a few beta test, as we get closer to releasing them I can work something out with you.

+Aquariumgeek thanks

You're welcome. Glad the video could help out. Yeah nothing worse than stems that aren't in their rightful place! haha

I see what you did there 8)

I don't think it has to be that complicated. The ferts are dissolved in the water, so the flow should suffice.

+Undertow Glad to see you are still using the same thumbnail pic. never change it!

easy to comprehend*

+Barefoots Child trials, tribulations, and... turbulence! I am basically behaving like water possessed at the moment. I am always a slow starter and usually when most people burnout around midterm is when I finally get on track. LOL Party on!

Understand completely.👍

They are fissidens fontanus and riccardia chamedryfolia, AKA mini pellia, the Fissidens moss and Mini pellia both stay round shaped and compact even without trimming. They're nice that way

+Jason Grohmann That tank was pretty sweet, but just wait! This tank is not even close to being mature. We will all see how it transforms. I use a DIY solution of potassium bicarbonate for the buffer, which I show you how to make in my 10 quick tips series. I believe in episode 4. Either way, it is the first tip in the video so it should be easy to find. You add the buffer to the total water replaced per week at a water change, and not the total tank volume. Right now for the GH I am using AquaVitro Mineralize. But you don't need to buy AquaVitro. You can just get the dry fertilizer mix called "the ultimate GH booster" off of green leaf aquarium's website or other plant fertilizer sites. Thanks for watching man.

+ADU Aquascaping Thanks for the info. So, if you are using potassium bicarb to raise KH, does it affect your fert dosing as well? I was planning on going by the EI method, but I know one of the ferts I would be adding would be mainly for Potassium (I think), so in theory, I could add less of that?

+Jason Grohmann Yeah it will add a good amount of potassium, but I still dose KNO3 at moderate levels, because I don't want too much alkalinity in the water. I keep my alkalinity "KH" around 3. Between 3-6 is recommend for most plants. In the video I mention how much potassium the dose will add...

+DViau Aquaria thanks for watching, that may still create a large circle that goes around the entire tank if the outtake and powerhead are aimed in the same general direction. It could even be creating to half circles that go in opposite directions if you have them aimed at 45 degrees into the center of the tank. All that matters is reducing dead spots in the tank, so just do the method that has the least amount of dead spots. It can really be any configuration that you need for your specific tank. I was just getting people started with some ideas. And you can check the direction of flow by mixing in some small flake food and watching where it goes etc...

+Beyond Aquatic Design haha, it has only been two weeks broseph!! I usually do a video every two weeks if I can.

+MASS Aquariums haha, my head is actually pretty big--------- that's what she said.

Lol

MASS Aquariums it's the true Irish curse. They call me bobblehead.

They are basalt lava rock. Just dry stacked like a puzzle. A lot of weight, but you have to risk it sometimes.

Hahaha thanks!

Adam Downes It is relative. Just have some surface ripples, but nothing crazy.

nay opposite side from one another. Have the output aiming 45 degrees across the tank from back to front.

+chemicalgabe I just cut the tank into thirds and placed on those spots, but a tad to the right of each measurement, so left side is at 10.5" in, and right side is at 25.5". I have the lights higher than the bracket holes on the hanging arm go, but the two screws seem to hold the arm against the bracket even though the screws aren't in the arm holes. So, I have mine at around 25" from the substrate, using the 110 degree lenses and the output is at around 55% of total output.

+Hallen Volleyball Thanks!

It can create a stable environment of gas exchange with higher flow and surface agitation. All you will have to do is turn up the CO2 if needed. It will deplete your CO2 a bit faster, but not anything you'll notice

+GamingGuy2000 hahaha! That is the secret of the SunSun. You can add a bucket below the outtake when you take it out. THere is really no easy way, or you could try installing some kind of ball valves to help hold pressure onto each line.

Yeah the 603 model sucks for this unfortunately

+Andrew Huang I would just do what I always do... set it up how I want and just wait to see where the biggest dead spots are and adjust accordingly.

I'd get another 2217 for a tank that big. I run a 2217 on a 55 gallon.

Finnex does work well, but yeah you will want the larger model. The Finnex Vivid or Planted+ should work for that size aquarium.

+Alvaro Reyes it won't be that strong in most cases to bother them. And in certain areas of the tank the flow will be less and they will find themselves sleeping in the low flow areas.

yeah some may get caught in it. It does happen sometimes. You can maybe try covering it with something, mesh, or screen, but you may need to switch to a powerhead with a prefilter screen to keep them out. It is a possibility. Try it out and if some die in there just modify it with some panty hose or something.

It really isn't too much. It seems like it is, but it works well. Can depend on fish type. some fish may not like higher flow. I use Koralia wavemakers to help with circulation. In my 10 quick tips video, I believe either episode 4 or 5 I recommend a coarse sponge you can buy in bulk, and it is aquarium safe. The link is still active and you can buy it from the website. It is one of the tips in the video, I think it is episode 4. As far as micron foam I don't really have a specific favorite or recommendation. Just whatever is cheapest at that point. Can probably find many different brands on Ebay or Amazon that will work. Just cut them up to the shape that you need.

Thanks for the feedback. Ive got a Blue Planet Track Lighting System on a 4FT 50G is this sufficient lighting for a low tech. Also i've read that if you have sufficient filter filtration (min 4X) on a low tech that it isn't necessary to attach a wave maker, in saying that i was going to buy either a Koralia or Sun Sun, position it in a corner at the bottom of the tank just purely to move or push the water towards the filter inlet.

+Helveteshit yeah that would work out. That is really the last frontier with aquascaping, doing a cave that is lit up with plants. Would have to possibly use underwater lights as well. Good thinking, and a good project. As far as a regular tank goes wavemakers and filters are sufficient because as velocity is increased so is turbulence, which distributes the water and increases the volume of the water circulation.

You could try adding more filter media to the filter baskets to slow down the flow. This can help. Get more sponge and filter floss and put it in the filter to slow the flow down.

That was Seachem Aquavitro fertilizers. Fancy stuff that I won in sponsorships

For such a tall tank you definitely need CO2, so that is a good start! It will help free up needed energy to trap all available light, which will be lower at the substrate on such a tall aquarium. I would go with a Finnex Ray II- higher output, and possibly a Finnex planted+. Both of them on top will most likely be needed. They are not as expensive and get the job done. You can get the newer planted+ model with built in timer, but would save even more on the classic model. Both are very simple and can be connected to timers, and they get the job done. And both combined together would make for better color rendering.

Awesome, thanks!

+Eric Maher I just prefer to create some agitation at the surface with the filter or wavemaker for oxygen levels. I like Koralia wavemakers, and you may not want too much O2 in your substrate if that is the case. Bacteria beds usually behave better with lower O2.

Got it. Thanks!

Yeah the 45 degree vortex works really well. It just kind of depends on your scape and rock work or driftwood, when it comes to the best place for your setup

+Candyfloss haha, it works great for stem plants. Can grow amazing stems in just plain sand.

+bigtroublenj If you find the tank health and growth of the plants satisfactory than you don't, but I have found, along with other aquascapers, that having at least 5x the total volume per hour turnover to 10x the total volume per hour turnover works really well. That filter is only rated at 264gph, and Eheims are known for having low flow. My API Filstar on my 40 gallon is doing 250-300, plus I have the wavemaker at 425gph. The Eheim. skimmer only does 80 gph. Another reason why I say 5x to 10x is because of fish type as well. Some fish don't want tons of flow, and some do.

+Kevin Bretscher No, the filter should be enough.

Michelle Mantonya no, in the aquarium it can be different from nature because we dose fertilizers. If you are doing a really low tech all natural scape some people like to leave all detritus to help as fertilizer. Usually tanks lit by the Sun and very low tech.

s. lamington just clean the top layer. You don't really have to do deep vacuuming. It can be just because it can cause algae if you stir up a bunch of organics if you don't do a water change right after.

ADU Aquascaping oh I see now, thank you!! I'm a beginner

+Kristopher Priewe hit me up through my email, fishfinaticsdob23@gmail.com

+Jurassics Just pumped out a bunch. Where you at dawgg?

+Larsen T. It can work for some algae. I only ever had success using that method one or two times. It can also stress the plants, and some algae actually grows at night! haha. I have this one algae right now that will grow at night. Craziest thing.

+Morgan Rose-Fleming It is just white poster board tacked to the wall and then I shine a Finnex Ray 2 LED fixture onto the poster board.

Lol this guy thought it was some fancy background. It's clearly just white.

It can help a bit, but you just need to clean the algae by hand, siphon detritus, and do weekly water changes. Flourish Excel also works great for subduing algae growth while also supplying a bit of carbon for the plants.

I'm not an expert, but my guess is that increasing the flow of water increases the amount of slime on any surface (including the surface of plants!) and algae will be more likely to settle on plants.

Yes, but the microbes (slime) then eat the algae spores

+Tan Desmond Thanks, what is going on?

+ADU Aquascaping I don't know how to put it in words, is there anyway I can send you some pictures?

+Rendi Prasetyo I am using AquaticLife Halo LEDs. They have really nice color rendering.

EO Rhino some red plants yes, but watch my latest video. Shade loving plants prefer the shade and lower light to some degree.

aquatic life halo LED

Is the Oase filter 600 liters per hour or 600 gallons per hour of filtration? If it's rated for 50-100 gallon aquariums you will be fine. If you want optimized circulation, then we usually aim for 10 times the total aquarium volume in gallons per hour. So 500 gallons per hour with a 50 gallon tank. Some of the small Koralia wavemakers do 425 GPH, so you can get one of these to help out. This is total circulation not filtration. But with your filtration and a wavemaker you would definitely be at or above 10x the water volume per hour in total circulation.

@@ADUAquascaping I believe it is 600litres ph and my tank is 180litres so how does that work out, do I need even more? Edit that's filtration sorry, the flow is 1250 lph

@@Boss-zo4lw You're at 3.33 times more with the filter. So you will want a wavemaker. Koralia nano wavemaker moves 425 gallons per hour or 1600 liters per hour. It's OK to have a bit more. I run some aquariums at 20x the volume in circulation per hour. It just helps keep the water crystal clear and pick up extra detritus. And if you point the wavemaker towards the surface can help to increase oxygen, which then helps the bacteria in the filter and the fish.

@@ADUAquascaping Thats crazy, this filter is massive yet not enough lol, ill look into a wavemaker, thankyou.

Well if it is doing 600 liters per hour it is large enough for filtration. I am talking about total aquarium water circulation per hour. So this is filtration and then any power heads or wavemakers. This will usually make the tank a lot cleaner depending on your setup. Say you have a large scape with a lot of driftwood and plants. Then you would definitely want 10x-20x.

A Sun Sun nano 603 canister filter both works and is inexpensive.

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yonatan barocio I get most from Buceplant.com. If you check my channel description I have codes for discounts. And I have embedded my affiliate link to Buceplant below the channel description. Can use ADU10 at checkout to get 10% off a shrimp order. The Orange Sunkist shrimp are pretty attractive and well priced. If you want you can order there and go through my affiliate link. I am also going to be setting up a small nano sponsored by Buceplant this week for Black Friday sales. They are also having huge discounts on other products. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the setup video.

+Дима Демин I have Riccardia, fissidens, monte carlo, java moss, micro sword, hydro sp. Japan. Thanks for watching.

In most cases yes. I have never had any fish or shrimp get sucked into one. They usually don't even care about them. Usually they stay on the driftwood or plants.

@@ADUAquascaping alright thanks

Robert Maz they didn't seem to mind too much. Just found areas of lower flow to hangout. They where all pretty healthy.

ADU Aquascaping awesome. I have a 30G Bow that I am getting ready to plant and I have 9 neon 3 cory and 2 BN plecos. I was told that the neons do not like too much flow...

Robert Maz they should be fine if it is 10x the total water volume per hour of circulation relative to the aquarium size. Or you could do a little less. Usually a filter rated for your aquarium size is sufficient, but depending on the scape design or size of the aquarium you may need to add an additional powerhead or wavemaker

Joshua Eum Oto Cats

Are they just standard Otos?

jinkles111 yes just the standard

+ccloop It is true you could balance the BOD in a tank and have low flow, but for most people if you increase flow you increase O2 into the filter, which helps the bacteria of course break down the organics more efficiently, and at the same time is helping to get all of the detritus into the filter and off of the plant leaves. It is true that type of filter scenario can cause eutrophication and hypoxia if your filter is inefficient, but if you have higher flow with ample amounts of media it helps to reduce these issues. Small aquariums with super dense plant mass and potential for high organic decay are not that great at self regulating, especially during the initial 4-8 weeks. I have found the higher the flow, with ample amounts of media the less risk there is of nutrient contamination, sludge build up etc... Bacteria work better, which reduces the organic contamination, and the higher flow provides more O2 for the system.

+ccloop Also, under water there is a water boundary of up to 0.5 mm thick that can limit nutrient contact with plant leaves, turbulence helps to break through this water tension boundary, which is a unique situation for aquatic plants.

+Jurassics haha, don't worry. I like the picture in picture idea that way my head can be following the tank around. Sometimes I just narrate the video and show different angles etc..I mix it up in other videos. I have a stand, but it's easier to just hold it. Thanks for watching.

+Devin Loewer but we still love the porn. It is an art form. Don't worry I will keep both kinds rolling.

Your analysis needs a lot of work, it's not accurate and making a lot of assumptions

@@ADUAquascaping MMkay.

+OriginalMindTrick No, low flow is an outdated idea in most planted tanks. Unless you are really trying to do a Walstad El Natural tank, and even then I would add flow. Flow is found in nature and plants prefer flow. In my low tech 10 gallon tank I used a SunSun 603 canister, which is rated at 106gph, probably a little lower in reality, but that is still close to 10x the total volume of the tank per hour. Says it is for 20 gallon tanks, but really is better suited for smaller tanks. My API filstar filter says it is for 75 gallon tanks, but is better suited for 40-55 gallon tanks.

+OriginalMindTrick i did a couple planted tanks with no flow nothing used dwarf sag in one tank and baby tears in another and both grew amazing in the sun used saft sorb as substrate i have endlers in one tank and some neohentrdria elegans in the other

Rico Suave What kind of light is minimal for the baby tears to look healthy?

***** well im talking about reg baby tears not dwarf baby tears "HC" but i used t8s , led flood lights, screw in led bulbs, cfl as long as its a daylight bulb your good to go also i have it growing right now in a 10 gallon with screw in led bulbs

SaltyFreshAquatics yeah you want good flow. Like the video states, at least 10x total tank volume of water per hour