ADV Myth Busting: To Sit or Stand When Riding a Motorcycle Off Road?

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Жыл бұрын

It's a question as old as ADV motorcycle riding itself: when to stand and when to sit when riding a motorcycle off road. Many out there teach that you should be standing the entire time when riding an ADV bike off road and while this new ADV rider advice comes from a good place, it also ignores several pivotal aspects of ADV riding, perhaps most importantly that ADV and dual sport motorcycle riding is something we do over long periods of time, day after day in many cases, and it's important for new ADV motorcycle riders to conserve their energy to ensure they are as safe at the end of a long riding day as they are at the beginning.
So, I'm here to shatter the myth that you HAVE to stand when riding a motorcycle off road. The truth is, there are plenty of situations when new dual sport and adventure motorcycle riders SHOULD be sitting down on the motorcycle. Obviously you need to stand when riding off road when the terrain is sketchy and you need to get into the habit of standing on a motorcycle when you are unsure or nervous about the terrain you're riding over. There are a ton of advantages to standing on a motorcycle, but it's also very tiring. That's why it is important for new and veteran ADV motorcycle riders alike to take advantages of opportunities to rest while riding the bike, and sitting while riding is the best way to do that.
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@DorkintheRoad Жыл бұрын

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@MarkyMark1202 Жыл бұрын

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@ddrowdy7666 Жыл бұрын

I'll take it a little farther. I have been riding bikes a long time, mostly off road, I sit as much as I can, even when I was younger and racing Enduro and Motocross. The only time you "need" to stand is when you need your legs for suspension or for weight transfer. Keep looking ahead so you see obstacles and you can stand when needed.

@due51outdoors Жыл бұрын

Good video. There’s no fast and hard rule for every rider. We’re all different; different size, different bikes, different skill level, different terrain. I sit while riding on flat compacted gravel roads and only stand up for ruts, hills, or loose gravel.

@2dollarbill650 Жыл бұрын

Spot on.

@motoman7445 Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@carrie36b Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the new direction your channel has taken! For someone like me, who is new to adventure riding, these videos are really useful. Please keep 'em coming! :)

@WeAreChad Жыл бұрын

OMG the detonation light on your jacket is flashing! Ruuuuuunn!!!

@ryans.8294 Жыл бұрын

I've been riding trail bikes for over 10 years and I have always sat on flat portions. But to each his own. I think there are many variables in trails and riders and no one rule applies to everyone in every situation.

@matthewpeterson3329 Жыл бұрын

I learned to ride a motorcycle in the dunes, and so many people feel that riding in deep, loose sand is difficult or sketchy. For me, it was all I knew and I spent years riding at Glamis, so riding dunes or in a sand wash is my comfort zone. When I get onto hard pack, I feel like I am on ice. The bike feels slick beneath me and turning always feels like the front end is going to push out from under my imputs, while in the dunes, I felt like I was carving a slot in the earth... much more comfortable. With that in mind, unless you are in some whoops or transitioning from one dune to another, I spent most of my time with my butt planted on the seat. I recently picked up a couple TW200s for me and my 15 year old son to ride and in Arizona it is mostly hard pack, so I have really focused on standing more, pressing my weight into the pegs and keeping my weight forward. Mr. Dork's description of when and why to stand makes more sense to me than any other person's advice I've heard over the years. And regarding rest, it's rare to dune ride for hours on end. It's usually a hot rip for 45 minutes followed by an hour parked at the bottom of Oldsmobile. On trails, we have ridden continuously for 2-3 hours straight, sometimes up to 8 hours in a day, and man does that drain you even if it is flat fire roads. That slippery sensation seems to have my entire body under constant tension and my mind constantly focused, which zaps my energy. Great video and great information... thanks for sharing, sir.

@ne-adv Жыл бұрын

100% agree you should not stand all the time, that you should not fatigue yourself. When on a trip or an adventure. A great way to not get fatigued by standing while on trails is to stand as much as you can when you are not on trails. It's called training. If you sit in a chair most of your life and suddenly must run a mile, you are not going to be happy about it. Or afterwards. If you run a mile every day, running a mile when you need to will not to be a problem. If your job puts you on a ladder most of your day, then you won't have a problem standing on the pegs for extended periods. So, start doing squats now, calf exercises now, lunges and burpees now, get into SHAPE! The better shape you are in, the less likely you will get hurt riding. And the less fatigued you'll be at the end of the day after a long ride. Even sitting requires weight on the pegs to move that gluteus maximus side to side. (Hence the squats) On an unknown trail or route, you don't always know how much you will want to stand. Stands (pun intended) to reason that if you trained for standing, you'll be more comfortable and less fatigued doing it. And squats also help you pick up your overweight motorcycle on the trail.

@L--Z Жыл бұрын

Great advice, I am literally taking notes.

@johndyer7587 Жыл бұрын

Famous Aussie Dakar rider says, "Stand when you need to, sit when you can." I bumped into a group of ADVers on the WY BDR last summer, all with huge official BMW GS bikes. They were taking a break, but when they got going again, they all stood up as soon as they had the bikes rolling. It was a super wide, flat, easy two-lane dirt road. It looked so funny! Just couldn't understand how/why you'd want to stand ALL day.

@tecdive8045 2 ай бұрын

I have seen this too - mostly with BMW guys. I think sitters get shamed at BMW events, so they all feel compelled to virtue signal that they are good riders by standing. It's kind of like all the followers of a certain party wearing masks! I just smile and wave

@leayoung3014 Жыл бұрын

I’m now in my mid sixties and standing is necessary but sitting is a necessity! Do either and both! Good video! Thanks!

@danaECBC Жыл бұрын

Im a big proponent of "do what you feel comfortable doing". I personally Stand on rough sections to use my legs as additional shock absorbers and to just stretch my legs on long rides.

@tomyocom5886 Жыл бұрын

Funny how for 100 years people sat on bikes except extreme dirt bikers and if you watch motocross they sit 70-80 percent of the time. It is kind of weird to see in the open ranges 50-10 guys all standing on their bikes. I do understand the standing in technical riding the best example of that would be TRIALS RIDING. BUT, few if any ADV rider could hold a candle to that skill set unless they are one and the same! Great Vid.. It would be nice if you did a vid on the front and back POV of standing and how you keep the bike straight and the difference in leaning from street to dirt. This is huge because I have been riding for40 Plus years and when I went on the dirt, OH BOY, NOTHING was familiar , nothing!!!!! Confident street rider, took classes at age 15 but when I hit the dirt..... OUCH! I was great on 3 wheelers and quads but when I did adv bikes.....leaning curve.... And for these reasons riders get turned off I believe and maybe pick too big of a bike.. So, lessons needed to build the confidence and retrain the skill set. Teach it.....

@lincolnjamrog4793 Жыл бұрын

I think it is speed dependent. If you want to go fast, better stay standing to be able to deal w terrain changes. I watch tons of these Moto KZfaq’s and when guys crash it is often because they are sitting when they should have been standing .

@2fastnlight Жыл бұрын

I always call myself a sit down dirt rider because I rarely stand and do it most often for visibility. I also like Jenny Morgan's advice to friends of something like "if you see me stand up, shits about to get real", noting her rare need to stand.

@michaelsupple6081 Жыл бұрын

So true! Love Jenny Morgan. When Jenny speaks.....I listen. :) I see lots of riders standing when it's absolutely unnecessary. I think they've bought into the adventure rider look, as in look at me....I'm an adventure rider and I'm cool because I stand up. I do stand up but only when I feel the need.

@bikespanniersandpassports Жыл бұрын

Currently riding round the world and the riders who put us to complete shame on rough terrain are the locals on 150s with bald tires and half their family! Never seen one of them standing up! We used to ride off road always standing but now completely comfortable sitting unless things get really gnarly

@jpravetz Жыл бұрын

This is true here in Costa Rica too. But usually just the ride alone, or one passenger

@CruisintheNarrowRoad Жыл бұрын

This exact question has been banging around in my head lately. I learned to ride in rural South America on mountain trails and roads. It was all adventure, all the time. As I have been watching adv videos I have noticed everyone always standing and to be honest, it seemed stupid to me. As you said, you need to take advantage of rest time as much as you can. Excellent video and I totally agree with your conclusion.

@elgringoec Жыл бұрын

South America has dream riding! Every time I've been I've been jonesin' if only I had my bike.

@CruisintheNarrowRoad Жыл бұрын

@@elgringoec I lived there for six years. Great riding.

@elgringoec Жыл бұрын

@@CruisintheNarrowRoad And they're a lot less uptight about where and how a person rides. Here we're way more subjected to limitations and criticisms.

@andrewtreloar7389 Жыл бұрын

Great work Ben, informative and well presented. For me, a lot of the decision making is speed-based. Slow stuff I stand, faster stuff I sit. Hoever, sitting takes away your ability to counter-steer and load your footpegs. Needless to say I stand probably 60% of the time I am off-road!

@markjacquot6182 Жыл бұрын

Your advice is spot on. 7:32 I am new to riding off-road, and have found that there is no need to stand on reasonably compacted gravel roads, unless I am going over a bump or rut. As Bret Tkacs also advises, stand when you need to but know why you are standing.

@phatsmitty Жыл бұрын

"Butt crack on the edge of the seat" Let's just call it what it is, and I agree 100%. Not sure if there was enough emphasis on 'left turn, right edge' and vise versa...

@hippyonaharley8502 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I've been riding off road on and off for about 45 years now. I got one quite bad knee and one that is constantly compensation for it. I sit a lot more than I should, but adjust my speed and how aggressive I ride. I'd rather get there late, than never. I do stand when I have to though and pay the price in pain the next day. But hey keeping riding is what keeps me going.

@blakeberlin6295 Жыл бұрын

I've ridden and raced offroad for more than 50 years, and have also ridden ADV and street for more than 40. I agree completely with your advice, although I do still sit when the riding is BOTH very slow (walking pace or slower) and very technical.

@ianharrison5263 Жыл бұрын

i've just remortgage for a concept seat ... I'm going to sit on that SOAB !!!!

@damonoriente736 Жыл бұрын

Nice video, and really welcome. As I was told by some others who are good riders: 'sit when you can, stand when you have to'. Which is the rule I ride by.

@ElementofKindness Жыл бұрын

I learned the hard way, sitting when it gets technical, is bad. Transferring from a gravel road, to a steep logging trail, I didn't see the ditch hidden by weeds, and got knocked off balance and fell over. Had I been standing, I probably would have been fine.

@stiingya Ай бұрын

It is funny that you see motocross/dirtbike riders sitting down LOTS of times, even at times during a race, but then when you ADV offroad everyone says "stand up" like it's required full time! :)

@astodart2493 Жыл бұрын

Interesting clip. I never knew there were riders who actually thought standing was the only way. I've never encountered this situation. Amazing!

@adventuremulemoto Жыл бұрын

I stand when I want to, I sit when I want to. Riding off road is a dance and the bike is your partner. Nice vid Ben.

@wolf1066 8 күн бұрын

I never heard you are supposed to stand the whole time. I was told it was for challenging/tricky sections and I switch between standing and sitting depending on what is most comfortable and what experience has shown gives me better control at the time.

@robertparker8863 Жыл бұрын

You Sir, are right on the money with this advice! Nearly 60 years of riding on all terrain/conditions, has proven these tips to me over and over again!

@scudrunneradv3269 Жыл бұрын

Lol. After 29 days straight on the TAT 12-15 sometimes 24 hours on the bike you invent new ways of doing things. Like moving your duffel bag forward forcing you to ride in a more forward seated position as well as being able to sit on it putting you in a half seated half standing position. Something we named steating. Trust me on long long days of easy to moderate Offroad it works like a champ. Especially at 60 years old with a prior broken back.

@RideMoreNow Жыл бұрын

I'm an old dirt bike guy, and I get leaning the bike over and keeping over the outside edge of the seat, but for me on large ADV bikes I tend to do the opposite, for example when making a U-turn. I keep the big beast vertical and hang off the inside road bike style. Leaning a big bike over when going slow in poor traction situations is an invitation to drop the bike, IMO. Anyway, I put many miles on my 1090 in a variety of situations including BDRs, and never dropped it, so it works for me. Totally agree with sitting down for all but the challenging sections.

@Hoshi_Toranaga Жыл бұрын

Really good tips, totally agree and I would add that it takes at least a season of riding to get your own flow and also to retrain your brain for all situations, so even when you think you are OK sitting or standing, re-check and do not get too cocky with speed or turns yet.

@timlubbers2884 Жыл бұрын

I crossed the length of North Dakota last year on gravel … I’m not standing up for 2 days straight… I did the Wyoming BDR in 5 days. If I had to stand the entire trip it would add 2-3 more days because i wouldn’t be able to walk after the 2nd day … 🙏🙏

@elgringoec Жыл бұрын

😂 it's tiring to push it. But loads of fun. Standing itself doesn't tire me, it's the repetition of sitting and standing that wears me out.

@timlubbers2884 Жыл бұрын

@@elgringoec I have never had to push a bike outside of a parking lot, but 45 years of riding and growing up on gravel helps. I stand when needed, but with the right tires, suspension, proper load and regulated speed most roads can be sat down on … ** I don’t single track much anymore, it’s to much work for this old goat …

@elgringoec Жыл бұрын

@@timlubbers2884 Yes I also find those all factor in to relative comfort and when to stand or sit. By "pushing it" I meant pushing our limits (or our luck 😂). Checking the years, it looks like I've been riding for 58 years -- where does the time go??? I find one of the big rewards of riding off-road is hauling ass. Getting up near the edge and teasing death pegs the thrill meter. But it's demanding. Sometimes ya gotta back it down. To rest I just back it down to the 70% range. Or stop and take a break. The older I get, the more I like breaks. Somewhere with nice ambience like beside a brook or a high spot with a view. I only stand when there's a lot of jarring or bouncing, or for jumping or hopping over obstacles. I probably sit more than the critics would probably say I should. But I've been riding a long time, and habits get ingrained. It would be a motivator to change if I were riding in the back of the pack, so to speak. Anyway I don't think there's one recipe for everyone. Success speaks for itself. I'm still fine single track vs double track. New limitations of excessive obstacles to work over are getting to me though. It's just not fun anymore to have to wrestle the bike around much as I've lost strength and stamina.

@timlubbers2884 Жыл бұрын

@@elgringoec doh😳, I got ya! As I’ve aged, I agree with you on what you said. I just wish there was a way to reclaim our roads, I hate all of the tarmac that is running through our back woods. Growing up in Montana was so great when you could actually go riding the backwoods and not get run over by a 30’ rv 😡😡

@elgringoec Жыл бұрын

@@timlubbers2884 Yeah we lose a few gravel roads a year to the pressure of people not wanting dust. Can't really blame them. But we still have some to go play on. And the national forest has dirt roads, 4x4 style, for management and fire access, which we can still tackle. It's not over yet. But we make trails through the woods on our property to ride. Dirt bikes, mountain bikes, going for a walk with the grandkids... Trail building and maintenance is quite time consuming, yet it's quality time.

@michaelcox8604 Жыл бұрын

Dork you are first on KZfaq to callout this myth. Cool. Im amazed to see people continuously standing on easy gravel roads.

@wanderlpnw Жыл бұрын

I'm too out of shape to stand the whole time anyway. I only get up for tight corners or when the road gets rough or loose.

@hughhawley3169 Жыл бұрын

I think the confusion on this issue comes from the fact that when you take an off-road or ADV course, they generally compel you to stand at all times while you are on the bike during the course. I believe the purpose of this is simply to help people get comfortable standing. If you've only ridden on the street, and you're taking an off-road class for the first time, the best way to get you comfortable on the pegs is to require you to stand whenever the bike is in motion., even when you're just riding from one drill to the next. This can easily be misconstrued to mean "thou shalt stand whenever thy tires are on anything but tarmac." I would bet most ADV training programs don't intend to send that message, but since they generally only have one or two days to impart a lot of new skills, and they are often dealing with people new to off-road riding, they may not think to point out that sitting down on long stretches of easy terrain is not only okay, but a smart thing to do in order to conserve energy on a long ride.

@brentstratton2224 Жыл бұрын

Not a rule, but I usually sit when I need weight forward during cornering or on smooth, slow rides. I usually stand when I need weight over the back or on bumpy fast rides that are fairly straight. More importantly than sitting or standing is to get the weight transferred to where you need it and not be stationary on the bike. Even on bumpy surfaces, you can sit down and use your knees to hold onto the bike while sitting forward on the seat.

@dantownsend4246 Жыл бұрын

When you stand your weight is transferred thru the foot pegs and puts additional weight on front wheel . Sitting moves Centre of gravity back towards rear wheel. Washing out rear wheel in corner ok, washing out front wheel you crash

@brentstratton2224 Жыл бұрын

@Dan Townsend sitting forward or back on the seat, will transfer weight forward or back. Standing fwd or back will either push or pull on the bars, also transfing weight. Sitting or standing to me is not as important as putting the weight where it needs to be. In bumpy conditions, I'm usually standing and cornering I'm usually sitting (almost on the tank)

@jctoth Жыл бұрын

While I stand probably 75% of the time I agree with you - get rest when you can. Also when in slow muddy sections a seated position will help you get more traction on the rear wheel.

@Dbcooper581 4 ай бұрын

It's personal choice, I've spent 25yrs riding in the woods, about a year on the road. I prefer to stand but it's generally 50/50

@MarkyMark1202 Жыл бұрын

Great realistic information for new riders! Thanks Dork!

@Ride_0n Жыл бұрын

At last! Someone not preaching stand, stand, stand and gets the value of sitting and resting. Personally, I prefer to sit unless I NEED to stand. That keeps my legs as rested as possible for when they need to "step up" and handle the rough stuff. You mentioned the leg out to counterbalance technique. That works well and I'm a fan of that dirt track style, but be wary of doing that in areas where your foot might get caught on a rock, root or something cuz you could seriously injure yourself if that happens. So only do that when you know you've got clear space.

@stephtraveler7378 4 ай бұрын

The big bike courses are the ones teaching 100% standing. Its because those 600 pound beast are unmanageable. Standing, as long as you have your knees bent can be very beneficial in technical stuff, but sitting can also be helpful. Go to a Hard Enduro race and watch the pros. They use both sitting and standing. Good content.

@tennyis28 Жыл бұрын

Great video! I sit down all the time :) I’m not trying to race a motocross track :)

@airadaimagery692 Жыл бұрын

Even on MX track there’s a time for sitting.

@Rocketvet1 Жыл бұрын

Great video and totally agree. Chris Birch emphasizes this in his training. He says when you stand you are “burning your matches” or using more energy. He says you should stand when you hit a terrain that you say, “Oh shit!” I see a lot of people standing totally erect which gives you no control of the motorcycle. I guess if that’s more comfortable for you on a gravel road or to stretch for a bit then fine but you can only hope you won’t need to do a sudden maneuver to miss a rock, rut or some other hazard. Standing for technical terrain should be in a Semi-attack position that you can quickly “lower your triangle” if the situation becomes more dire.

@elgringoec Жыл бұрын

Sure, one of the big rewards of riding off-road is hauling ass. Getting up near the edge and teasing death pegs the thrill meter. But it's demanding. Sometimes ya gotta back it down. To rest I just back it down to the 70% range. Or stop and take a break. The older I get, the more I like breaks. Somewhere with nice ambience like beside a brook or a high spot with a view. I only stand when there's a lot of jarring or bouncing, or for jumping or hopping over obstacles. I probably sit more than the critics would probably say I should. But I've been riding a long time, and habits get ingrained. It would be a motivator to change if I were riding in the back of the pack. Anyway I don't think there's one recipe for everyone. Success speaks for itself.

@MeerkatADV Жыл бұрын

The reality is like so much else in life, it depends. Depending on the bike, what you're doing, your skills, and what you need to do, all determine whether sitting or standing is more helpful. The biggest problem is remaining stationary on the bike, you've got to move around to stay balanced, whether you do that while sitting or standing.

@karryhoward3946 Жыл бұрын

Hello Meerkat well said, as old guy ridding mostly cali./Az. desert trails never worry about all the proper training technics just doing what works for me and the bike I'm on if I fall no big deal all good.

@ExploreAdventureMoto Жыл бұрын

All great points and well said 🤘

@nomading_in Жыл бұрын

It does vary quite a bit with the experts. You do see the Dakar riders sitting to converse energy while crossing terrain at speeds we'd never even consider. Toby Price especially prides himself on being irregular in how much time he spends in the saddle over the course of his races. You'll also see some of those top riders sitting very rarely. Ultimately I think that goal is to feel in control and reasonably relaxed (because usually, if you fight the bike, you lose), and it's possibly to do that both standing and sitting, in most cases, but standing is actually the less technical of the two, once you beat the instinct factor.

@MrBubbydoo Жыл бұрын

Good vid, pretty informative . The finding if you are in the right seat position by making sure both front and rear shocks move up and down is great info. I dont know if I am late but congrats on reaching 65K subscribers. Cheers

@MetallaCaine Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ben. This is the best tutorial on riding standing up I’ve seen. Very well explained

@timwright3790 Жыл бұрын

Excellent analysis! Thanks

@MotoPumps Жыл бұрын

Great balanced view and logical explanation of the reasons. Nice!

@lifesjourneyat50 Жыл бұрын

Agree Ben - it's based on situation, terrain and circumstances - great vid!!!

@trd4d Жыл бұрын

I grew up off-road riding. Spent about 3 minutes standing in 50 years.

@john1911ccw Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Grew up riding scramblers and dirt bikes and I been riding over 50years . Have had several dual sports , now have a CRF300L and two Harleys and a quad and haven’t spent measurable time standing on the pegs.

@africanpenguin3282 Жыл бұрын

It's the same for my father. He grew up in rural Utah with a ct90 and Dt150. I asked him about that and sounded puzzled, "I've never stood up except to stretch in the highway". Though you probably suggest say he was self taught and no real outside knowledge, just riding till you stopped crashing (mostly).

@deepspoke2201 Жыл бұрын

Ditto from another Boomer; rarely stood up learning to ride in the 60’s and that was when we only had 3” of suspension. Now I have a dual sport with 12” of travel and stand up 10 times as much! I think I’m watching too many KZfaq how to’s. All you have to do is watch bikes in the latest Dakar rally to realize that with enough skill you can sit down a lot.

@dormantmenace Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you're all extremely slow learners. And probably nowere near as good of rider as you are in your head. Sitting down Is more fatiguing On anything other than perfectly flat and exiting corners. Your absorbing everything and impeding the suspension by doing so. The slower you go the rougher it is. Cause your suspension sucks at low speed. Especially tight single track. This guy's like a born in politician giving advise on blue collar problems. No you don't need to stand 100% of the time. But I've never met a fast sit-down rider off road. Lots of idiots who could twist hard in the easy stuff. But no one that could actually ride real terrain at a respectable speed. Problem is many people simply arnt comfortable standing in the rough stuff. They sit to bring a sence of comfort and control. So they never put it the effort to break through that mental plateau.. and find our how much more stable and confidence inspiring standing actually is.

@africanpenguin3282 Жыл бұрын

@@dormantmenace the think you you have to remember there was no tutorial KZfaq or even large groups for many folk. Rural in the US was and is a little bit different than rural in Britain (assuming from the name) or when you broke in a town of 1,000 the next one might not be for 80mi+

@neilpederson5212 5 ай бұрын

I just bought my dual sport bike and it being winter I haven't gotten to ride it. But I see myself sitting more than I do on my mx bikes. Its whatever most guys feel comfortable with

@michaeloconnell9024 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great advice bro.

@TommyNitro Жыл бұрын

Less than a minute in and gets my opinion: selected techniques for selected situations. I like standing in technical terrain and gravel.

@IslandADV Жыл бұрын

Awesome and fun topic man. I had a goal for a whole ride season to get better at standing when the time calls for it. One thing that helped a lot, was riding with a crew of enduro riders for a while. The ride style rubbed off on me and made me so much more confident.

@-SLOTH Жыл бұрын

Solid info Ben. Appreciate it much.

@CoachSteve4u Жыл бұрын

Makes total sense. Thanks.

@49Roadmaster Жыл бұрын

To the "You only stand crowd" I ask them to get out of their seat and stand for the rest of the time we talk/have dinner/etc...

@insatiable_mind Жыл бұрын

What you said makes sense and seems to align with the ADV trainers I’ve been following and hopefully will take some lessons from soon. I can’t speak from experience as I’m pretty new to the sport

@russelstillwagoner225 Жыл бұрын

Awesome info. Thank you.

@karryhoward3946 Жыл бұрын

Hello Dork, great info keep it coming! have a great day.

@mikesmith9576 Жыл бұрын

Great video with some really good points. I find myself switching from sitting to standing depending on what the terrain I'm going over dictates. I've had people tell me that you absolutely have to stand all the time and say that I know absolutely nothing cause I sit at times. You've confirmed what I've always thought and that is that it's ok to sit on the bike. Keep up the great work man, always love watching your videos as they are always great with a ton of very useful tips and tricks.

@AleMalave92 Жыл бұрын

Cool video! Id love to see more videos like these. Thank you for sharing!

@anneligustafsson16 Жыл бұрын

I learned same as you. In the beginning of the season I stand up a lot just to practise shifting, balance and breaking. It is so different from sitting down.

@mkramsauer Жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant that's some good info brother 👊

@KimballHansen Жыл бұрын

Great video. Agree with you 100 percent.

@wandering_wodnicks Жыл бұрын

Great video. I like the approach to this topic. I agree with the "get rest" mentality.

@michaelmarkin1532 Жыл бұрын

Yes, more off-road riding tip please! Great explanation and demonstration.

@wherewithalmoto Жыл бұрын

Where I ride it's mostly whooped out so I stand a lot. I look forward to those smooth sections to sit and rest!

@subashsivakumaran2012 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, very informative.

@jimh2061 Жыл бұрын

Good advice!

@RyantheGiraffe Жыл бұрын

Super helpful vid, nice one!

@alanwalls3117 Жыл бұрын

Love it! Confronting topics head on!

@dstubby82 Жыл бұрын

Friends: Should I sit or stand? Answer: Yes. 😁

@jimramsey8020 Жыл бұрын

Good info, thanks. Really like your presentation

@Crittermoto Жыл бұрын

Great tips and well explained. I have a riding buddy that constantly rides his dual sport like he is on his cruiser and is constantly struggling and bailing but can’t figure out why. Even with countless efforts from myself to “show him” he just knows better 😜 I’m going to show him this video now. Thanks! 👍🏻

@airadaimagery692 Жыл бұрын

Let us know what he says... I’m guessing he will argue the point because he already knows😆

@charlestouchburn1828 Жыл бұрын

I’m a new ADV rider bought KLR 650 in fall. Can’t wait till spring comes in Ontario. Enjoying your content. Thank you dork.

@jjustj Жыл бұрын

Pretty well said, conserve energy when ever you can!!!!Stay hydrated!!!! I am a former trials rider some times sitting between sections on the loop if easy and they don't have seats!!!!

@robertsvulpes Жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks. 👍👍👍

@williamohrt554 Жыл бұрын

As a new Adventure Bike rider this video answered a number of questions. I find that standing works great but I find it tiring to the point of fatigue in my thighs. The feeling is very similar to a long day of skiing on advanced trails.

@paulmcauliffe8857 Жыл бұрын

I ride mainly off-road (65yo). It's def OK to sit when the situation allows. Especially in planted corners.

@planetluzzo1971 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video. We live in the same town and I can't wait to get riding!!

@wildwestexplorations8097 Жыл бұрын

Very good advice

@Choirboyjr11 Жыл бұрын

Try balancing a short stick on your hand and try balancing a long stick on your hand. You'll find the long stick is easier to balance. That's why we stand, for times of balance. Also, to give our suspension some help on bumps. Rest of the time, sitting is fine.

@toastercrumbs2363 Жыл бұрын

First video of yours ive seen. the intro and channel name are awesome. buying a bike soon and this is all awesome info, thank you! That Honda looks great, too

@jessrumblin Жыл бұрын

Finally someone making sensible directions! Specially about choking up on the bike specially when going around loose surface curves/turns. What we learned in the day (70’s) when we had lousy suspensions was to get up on the pegs and off the seat in rough terrain si the bike could move around without throwing you off or over the bars!

@rivernet62 Жыл бұрын

Source of possible misunderstanding: formal training will generally have you stand. Not because this is what we should do always, but because we need the practice.

@jimf4891 Жыл бұрын

I was exhausted watching the official Washington BDR video with those guys standing up all day for 5 days.

@pampalmater Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this advice. I better understand the difference. My instructor told me to not sit as much, but I feel like on flat stretches I need the break.

@DorkintheRoad Жыл бұрын

You're so welcome!

@TheHoovercm Жыл бұрын

Great video Ben. I'm currently trying to teach my oldest daughter these things on our trail rides. I think I'll have her watch this! For some reason, our kids tend to listen to other people better than us parents! It also helps that you're a teacher by trade, and a good one at that! 😀

@LazyJack2003 Жыл бұрын

„ ... our kids listening to other people better than us parents…” Really ? 😂😉 I think I know the feeling. Great you are teaching your daughter. Enjoy it while it lasts. She will probably soon leave you behind! (And that’s the way it should be.)

@LazyJack2003 Жыл бұрын

Nice & very right. I do a lot of my riding on perfectly grated Swedish gravel roads. No need to stand up other than if you want to stretch your legs every now and then. Allow me to add another misconception about what „standing up“ supposedly does. It goes like this: lifting your but and putting your weight on the pegs lowers your center of gravity, which is desirable.“ I know, the false logic in this is actually quite tempting. But as those who paid some attention to physics class know, - it is completely wrong. So don’t stand up for that reason, but mainly, to add another level of suspension and for all the reasons mentioned in this clip.

@wandersofp Жыл бұрын

I agree with the notion that standing the entire time is silly. I'm all about using good technique to be efficient with use of my energy and the bike.. I find myself on tight trails in more of a ready position than anything, especially with our tight woods in PNW, half the time if you are standing you are gonna be eating tree branchs..

@NMdesertracer Жыл бұрын

Easy fireroads sit down unless you spot a cow! Baby heads I stand up with weight slightly back loose grip on the bars and bike and looking ahead on the trail never let off the gas. Sand is about the same little farther back faster is easier!

@rayrayray4116 Жыл бұрын

All good stuff. One aspect, I did not hear, or see in the comments of one of the reasons to stand..... To weight the pegs and lower your center of gravity. Gives better control. When sitting your center of gravity is a lot higher, ie: less control.. Go watch some woods riding, enduros, hare scrambles, you,'ll see.

@DakotaHDrums Жыл бұрын

dork in the road is a good talker/story teller.

@DnSAdventures Жыл бұрын

Great info sir, learned a lot as a newbie! - Shane

@garrysimmons111 Жыл бұрын

Conserving energy is super important as you age (60+ here) so I sit when it's easy and stand when things get harder. I totally don't get the "stand all the time" crowd (cue BDR trailer videos of standing on smooth gravel, WTF?). Learning to rest when possible is valuable in most (all?) athletic hobbies.