Fun fact, in the OG grandmasters, Mangs labeled Tordread as "Toedread" in the interface and we laughed about it before recording this.....little did we know he put in "Tordead" this time

Toedread Tordead Tordud Thorden Torderp

Okay, so JTQWN talks about JTQWN in the third person. Mangs talks about JTQWN in the third person. And I'm talking about JTQWN in the third person. Just saying...

You can be the funny town man all you want, you don't mess with Max's 140% tanks.

good timing on mangs for giving us the jtqwn preview before the qualifier

Mr. Clean and the Baboon King are back! 🎉

Hope we get this lovely joint commentary for the actual tournament as well 🥰

The question is, which body part of JTQWN is he fighting against actually?

Congrats to the winner, he played INCREDIBLY, but I have a critique for them Spoilers not that it mattered here but Tordread should've recognized that near the end you will have less time to move units, therefore, even if you don't have income advantage, it's always better to tech up if you are able to. Near the end of a live match unit count is not as important as in a normal match, because many of those units will be out of place. So building bombers and medium or neo tanks sounds really solid. Even Fighters could do well in a match like this to ward off or even pick off helicopters. But anyway Tordread is an absolute grandmaster, he's one of my favorite players, and I'll be rooting for him!!

"The bitter end" what a fitting map name for the match lol GGs great commentary!

this was so fun. Epic game, great commentary, I love you two together

i love this deej+mangs action, keep it up

Mangs is talking about a video he already upload...or not O.? This game is in a time between time and existence

GGWP! Enjoyed watching the tournament.

Heh, you two spend the entire match yelling "attack! Attack!" and tordread was like "nah I'm good". If going down a tier cost was meant to be a funny move, gotta say it had the complete opposite effect, man a real snore of a match here, thanks for the commentary and to the players either way though!

I do not agree with such harsh time restrictions. Reaching day 15 and not becoming a baboon is impossible

Is the name really pronounced as "jetakwin"? Cant we just call him "jet queen" much easier that way?

wow that last turn was super quick

Would it be possible for increment to operate per unit? Like for each unit a player has, on their turn they gain x seconds on the clock.

Love the saxophone

On timers - I don't think 10+1 is the best, because slower players can relax, waste that time, and still be just as messed up. I'd rather see 5+1.25 on these larger maps (if that's an option), so the increment is just about sufficient if you're fast. For a 20-turn game that would give you the same time as 10+1, but keep the pressure on.

It's interesting that Rachel was picked, because objectively it's pretty bad but JTQWN definitely knows Tordread's history with Rachel and is going for some psychological warfare with her :)

I wonder how much the _smooth tunes_ around days 10-15 contributed to audience perception of stallinens

This match was as stally as an old car dang

I think the reality is that the one minute increment is what made this match so uninteresting. In my view, you want to give enough of an increment for the players to be able to make solid turns without dragging things out forever in the move planner and also without making it so that the first person to take a real turn immediately loses to the counterattack. What is the reason for not even considering a 2 minute increment for these matches? Alternatively, give both players something like 40 minutes each with no increment. (You'd want to adjust that based on the turn limit and maybe map size.)

could 5 minutes + 90 seconds per turn be viable?

Imagine if AWBW let you premove legal moves like online chess

Yeah this got painful towards the end. The players were just unable to play the game. While JT's opening definitely left a comm tower to be desired, it was more possible to come back late than it seemed it might be from the start. Realistically though, there was no possibility to maneuver due to the slow animations, so it was only possible to win if Tordread threw the game and so it literally devolved into a game of chicken.

Something on the website should be done to give players more time to make moves

Maybe make the increment 2 minutes. I usually play with 5 plus 2mins every turn on my live games and it works like a charmer. 1min increment is just not enough. Looking at the past games we see that the highest of rated players just struggle or even time out multiple times

Ok So before I finish the video I need to say two things: Mangs is still quieter than you and almost as quiet as the BGM, so please make sure you boost his audio a bit. Also I really like that these aren't live, because you guys give too much good advice and I fear that if you make the tournament live someone will be snooping for advice. Unless you put like a 5 minute delay on

Deej praising rachel? This is an odd feeling lol

How many people in the tournament and who qualifies automatically?

Up!

What is that awesome music at 27:00?

7:43 Bad, bad Deejus asking Mangs if he has "any last BALD predictions". Not cool, man!

Unpopular opinion: the increment should be +2. Time is deciding more matches than tactics with +1. "It's about resource management!" Yeah sure, but I watch AWBW for big plays, not for macro.

Sounds like JTQWN was an overhyped player, I mean I did beat a Max using Rachel but I went a tier lower because my opponent wasn't super strong and the map was favorable to Rachel in some ways, so going a tier lower wasn't a good move there unless the map favor it.