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Thought the Movie made more sense if the Regent Force was actually a mining detachment. Their Peg weapons would act pretty well as Mining tools; shoot the pegs to embed them in rock and detonate once sufficent explosives are placed. The ridge goes up, exposing resources for strip mining. With the Drones, they would also work for recon, scouting out resource locations, and strip mining by using more precise techniques to clear the surface area and possibly for straight on mining. The Regents battle suits are more in line for a labor/high impact enviroment rather than protection against sustained firepower; basically the alien form of Hardhats and Work Vests. Their threat indicators look to work more like scanners for general threats; is this machinery malfunctioning in a way that might hurt people, is this architecture suitable or is it a structural hazard, is this worker safe or is experiencing workplace violence? Their hand held weapons make more sense for miners; why the hell do you want to have guns in a mine. You got your physical tools and wielding implements all in one package that is attached to your arm in case of disaster. The fact they had what looks like a ton of extra generators that can be deployed on land on hand for their plans screams more "Civilian Operations" rather than military. Their reluctance to fight unarmed people? "Dude, we are so screwed. We are so screwed?" "You think? WE PRETTY MUCH JUST INVADED ANOTHER PLANET!" "WE DIDN'T MEAN TOO! Damn it, why did Command want us to come here again?" "We were the only Regents in the area and they did not want any race to move in and woo the locals to their side." "WHY DO WE CARE- nevermind, probably something something political gronkshot. Throw up the asteroid shields, seal off the area while we try to not escalate the situation. Find something we can use to make contact with home, they managed to call from this location, it's why we chose this place as a landing area, FIND IT BEFORE WE GET OUR ASSES HUNG!" "What about the locals?" "Umm...hands off, try not to kill anyone, if need be cause distractions to keep them off our backs BUT KEEP IT TO AN ABSOLUTE MINIMUM WE DO NOT NEED THE WHOLE HOOPLA IN EXPLAINING THEIR DEATHS ONTOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE! Use the Threat Scanner and Indicators to make sure we don't destroy anything meaningful. And for gods sake don't put Phil on any teams working ground side, you know how he gets when this sort of situation comes up. And get someone on translating the language for us." "The translators were on the communications ship" "Damn it, get anyone who is remotely experienced in this area on it. I don't care if their only experence is a 10 minute DIY language tutorial video, we need to make sure this does not blow up any more than it is."

I think this is just a Early game Stellaris Civ that attacked a Pre Space Age Civ with one Assault army against 10 defense armies.

“The humans, upon seeing that the aliens respond to their actions by mimicking them, decide for some reason to fire towards the alien ships.” This is an actual sentence from the film’s Wikipedia page and I love that one of the greatest repository’s of human knowledge has no explanation for the sheer stupidity displayed in this movie.

The message the aliens sent at the end: "This planet is inhabited by highly aggressive and warlike natives! We cannot stand against them! Stay away! Oh God - they're coming! Tell my wife I - " [message ends].

*The sad thing about this story is* that we started firing after their horn shattered the glass on a destroyer's bridge, injuring some sailors which triggered the captain into firing. They only blasted _their_ horn in responce to _our_ horn; they were communicating back to us. Little did they know that their horn's blast would actually damage our ships. This whole ordeal could really have played out quite peacefully.

My buddy dubbed this movie "Submarines don't exist" a single sub with a full load of torpedoes could've ended the invasion easily. Honestly, our sonar could definitely pick up a splashing leapfrogging ship on the surface, and crack it's hull. Source, my own time in the navy on a sub.

You keep talking about an alien invasion. There was no alien invasion in Battleship. A small fleet of alien ships crash-land on Earth and lose their communication module. Their quest then is to phone home like Stephen Spielberg's E.T. They don't attack, they only defend themselves against a zealous military that for some reason thinks that any visitor from outer space has to be an enemy. The whole movie is structured like any Tohei Kaiju movie, down to the bit players being more interesting than the main protagonists.

There was actually a theory a while back the 'invasion' force was not actually there to invade. And that the Communications ship actually had an amabassor class on board. With them being killed the soldiers were left to kind of fend for themselves. Which they dealt with in a particular fashion. They didn't fire first, and when they did like you pointed out they stopped. They were trying to communicate with their homeworld, but all they really did was take out ships that were a threat... an air base that could serious threaten them and a highway which the actual purpose (when it was concieved) was to make an easy way to transport forces across the ground quickly. So the irony is that.... the aliens might not have been hostile... were just pricks.

As a Navy brat, this movie is a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine. Watching a Battleship broadside an alien cruiser tickles my fancy.

Personally I reckon the aliens are mining not military, those peg launchers look pretty good for blowing apart an asteroid, and it would also explain why only a small group was present. They likely saw humanity's massive signal while they were in the area and decided to check it out, not realising that their space thrusters couldn't get them into a stable orbit or back off the planet again, and that they needed to call a space tow truck but had accidentally lost the only vessel with a space CB Radio

Since almost everyone else is talking about the aliens, I will talk about the only partially realistic item in the film. The reactivation of the mothballed battleship. While I promise the live munitions are not on the vessel right now, an act of congress in the late 90s required the Iowa class ships to be left intact. The basic idea was that we may at times need a battleship, but not often enough to keep her on duty. Each vessel is required to be maintained to a minimum level as part of the "rental" agreement. Munitions, fuel and critical parts are stored at nearby military reservations. And at any time the Navy commanders can request the reactivation of said vessel. This is understandable, since in modern air controlled warfare a battleship is only a target. But in case of a near shore war, these vessels are still severely overpowered. Look up the first gulf war to see what a nation facing these ships truly feels. However, that doesn't mean these vessels can be reactivated overnight. SOP plan for the reactivation of one of these is weeks... If they are in a hurry. The anchoring chains alone would be 3-4 hours to cut at best. It was nice to see her respected again. But this is like a girl going to prom only taking 5 minutes to get ready. Just ain't happening. Can she be reactivated... Yes. In a day... Mythbusters called... That one is busted.

Option 4: The small invasion force was just an alien reality television show. The comm ship held the casting crew, the host, and all the equipment. Without the casting crew the contestants have no idea what to do.

I remember reading somewhere that the original script of this movie had one alien finally managing to communicate with the humans and explain that they weren't an invading force; in fact, they were some kind of colonizers (I think) that ended up on earth by accident, and since they obviously didn't want to remain there and were scared of being attacked by humans they tried to contact their homeworld while at the same time neutralizing every possible attack option the humans had against them (that's why they sent those "balls" to destroy bridges and warplanes), but once the misunderstanding was cleared and the alien commander that basically created this mess was arrested the humans would help them to go back home

They were on the run from the aliens from "Signs".

everyone is missing a point. remember when aliens blasted something like horn after our ships blasted horn i think it was some sort of communicate attempt but it went wrong

I wish this alien Invasion films showed the invasion from the perspective of the aliens - this way we could get some context for their actions and maybe even see them in a more sympathetic light...

The most impressive bit of survival was the actors careers that managed to survive appearing in this.

Battleship also wins the dubious distinction award for doing everything in it's albeit limited power to convince me that I'm watching a Michael Bay movie, without actually being a Michael Bay movie. It's really almost impossible to believe that he had absolutely nothing to do with this project, whatsoever. Taking a premise from our childhoods? Check. Gratuitous Military Porn? Check. Explosions because Explosions (Or more explicitly, 15 minutes of continuous runtime without an explosion) Check. Helicopters? ... B-list actress casted for Name Recognition?

I think my favorite theory revolves around the regents being a bunch of interstellar miners who heard the signal, decided to swoop in close, accidently crashed their comm ship and through a hilarious sequence of screw-ups escalated an inadvertent first contact into a small engagement. Those charge launchers would be great for breaking apart asteroids that have been encapsulated by the giant shield generator of the mothership, with the grinders set to deploy to tear up stubborn ore into collectable amounts. The multi-shank option could be a variety of mining equipment and terrain clearing tools. Hell, add the right subtitles and the entire theme of the movie becomes more then a little different.

The way you described how ill equipped they were for warfare makes them sound more like a mining expedition (with miners) than an invasion (with soldiers).

In my head, the aliens are actually stoned civilians from there respective planet. The movie makes SO much more sense that way.

I think the scene where he grabbed onto the lieutenant and shared his thoughts was actually him sharing memories, like alien PTSD stuff

-Just giving my opinion- They lost their comms ship so they don’t fire because they could have been there on a peace mission and didn’t know what to do without comms. The flash back thing could be what’s happened on their planet or they could predict the future of what might happen if they start killing each other

They should've sent a clone of Chris Brown. They'd beat the navy lady for sure

"Happy to take a few innocent lives if they do it with autonomous drones and don't have to personally witness anyone dying." I think you just described US foreign policy.

ok my theory is that their some kind of mining crew that would explain a lot about there weapons and actions shitty explosives=mining charges , those death wheels=drills , reluctance to fight=civilian miners and hunkering down instead of fighting=biting of more than they can chew . they thought they could just come take some all ready refined materials and go home

Why do I feel that reason for making this movie is about the Missouri grumbling "Why is Yamato the only one that gets to fight aliens!?"

This is probably more thought than this movie deserves, but I noticed that the issues with the Regents clear up if the regents aren't here to invade. They may have been interplanetary refuges. The reluctance to fire first may have been an attempt to show that they were not hostile and the weapons could have been repurposed equipment for some other job such as mining. The mind meld could have been an attempt to communicate to the human attackers that they were running from a war on their home world and the attempts to call out a means of letting their friends know that this was not a hospitable world.

The amusing thing is they were actually going to use the U.S.S. Missouri at sea in their film, they spent weeks/months trying to get it to sail, but were unable to. Unlike in the film where they were able to get her to sail with the power of the montage, which would have been a couple of hours at best due to the films time frame to stop the broadcast. So most of the scenes with her at sea were either completely CGI, or they had to tow her around then removed the tugs and tow lines in post.

I'm still convinced humanity is the bad guy in this movie.

In the movie Battleship... The Aliens were responding to our invitation to visit but we assumed the accident that downed one of their ships was an "invasion" and attacked them

The plot of this movie makes sense if you consider that the aliens were coming in peace to warn us about the "Other" aliens that blew up their planet, which would explain why they tried to avoid killing humans until the just could'nt avoid it, contacting home would have been their primary goal.

Not to mention interstellar travel where a pebble is equivalent to nukes would mean their ships should be more than capable of shrugging off battleship rounds.

“Downgrade the likelihood of nuclear retaliation to a ‘maybe later’” I love this line.

5:10 Considering that alien seemed to be trying to take parts from the engine he seemed less a saboteur and someone on a mission to find parts that could be used for their own repairs.

A presumable rule of thumb in naval warfare: it's harder for a boat to kill a plane than a plane to kill a ship. Note: I have never been in naval warfare. I have just read a few books.

I viewed this crap movie this way. 1. they were not an invading force. But following the destruction of their coms vessel, there were miss understandings that both sides took as aggression. They just wanted to phone home to get back but we refused to let them leave. 2. Their ships weren't built for our atmosphere and/or gravity. The flopping about was due to our gravity being higher then they were expecting or the gas mixture of our air wasn't correct to allow their fuels to combust correctly.

Pretty much any inter-galatic alien species should end up on this list of they can't defeat humanity.

Alien: “In our culture flopping around in the water means peace and greetings.” 🐋

Simple explanation: They weren't invading, they were an exploration/diplomacy mission, the aliens were seeking refuge, and the entire conflict was caused by a series of misunderstanding.

i always imagined that after all the fighting was over, a whole new cold war type situation would occur as both America and China reverse engineer the wreckage from the alien ships.

I haven't seen this stupid movie, but I'm wondering if maybe they were refugees? No invasion force would only attack defensively at first. I could see Refugees capturing a comms dish to call their buddies, though. They would attack the humans out of self defense at that point, and send what are basically MPs or cops out to protect them. That would also explain the reason he telepathically told the human huge amounts of info. Maybe he was saying "Our planet is getting wrecked by war, so we came here." The peg missiles would probably be for asteroid mining, and the spinner things would just be cargo or passenger drones they had ram people because they were desperate.

All I could hear him say is "Pig Launcher" and I loved it.

"I don't think they can't see us either." "And why do you think that?" "Because we're still alive." Quite the well thought out assesment of the situation, I see.

what annoyed me most about the movie is experienced wartime veterans didn't shell the shit out of the hostile forces from many kilometers away, and decided a knife fight (essentially anything within 7km in battleship terms) with highly agile technologically superior ships was a good idea. The Missouri has a maximum firing distance of 39km. Hell, they even decided going broadside to an enemy with highly destructive, reasonably accurate rapid fire armor piercing mortars.

What's so odd is why they needed a sci-fi story at all? Just make it a fun period piece set in the 40s about a rag tag group of navy guys who use wits, insanity and steel nerve to overcome a greater for from a foreign country. Have our navy ship all alone after losing its escorts and they have to use the horizon, weather, speed, land, and pure luck to outwit and outmaneuver a superior enemy while supplies dwindle and their friends are killed off and their ship is taking damage Make it fun and tense and a feel-good popcorn film that doesn't take itself too seriously. Why do you even need aliens?

It seems to me like they simply send a diplomatic envoy, the communications ship crashed which made them unable to communicate with humanity. Then they panicked and made a shield around them, didn't attack anyone as they were there for piece and humans came around and decided to just shoot them down with no previous aggression whatsoever. Which made them go like "wtf mates?". I don't know how it all works exactly, but who exactly leads the operation against the aliens? Did he have communication with headquarters? What rank did he have? This was a fleet of ships so it should be an admiral. Why exactly is that lieutenant person important in this case? I mean a ship like the missouri would be controlled by a captain. If that lieutenant actually decided to start the attack I'm relatively sure they will put him into prison for attacking an unknown ship without establishing communications and without the other ship actually performing any other kind of threat. They should just make a sequel were they send their military next and just take over the planet.

I am still waiting for movie versions of "Chutes and Ladders" and "Candyland."

Is it possible the regents were fleeing from their destroyed planet ? The Regent that communicates with the leader (I have forgotten his name) is trying to tell him that they are on the run ? They just headed to the nearest signal they were getting which would be earth. It would explain why their ships were out of control in crashing, why they didn't fire first and why they were hesitant to retaliate? They may have even been civilians rather than military personnel which might explain why the war, when finally fought was conducted in such a sloppy manner? The theory isn't perfect as it doesn't explain why they had a boner for the communications array and I might be over thinking it but that is my take on it.

If you ever run out of stupid aliens -- do A Quiet Place next, pretty please? -- you could start another series about zombies and other stupid threats to civilization.

I imagine now in the middle of the fight one marine screaming loud and clear: FOR THE EMPEROR!

Pretty sure they came in peace and we were aholes who were scared.

I was in a packed theatre on Naval Base San Diego when this came out, and everyone was cracking up. Half the sailors honestly thought it was a comedy.

Is it bad that I wanted the aliens to win? I mean come on, they have cool as ships and technology

Actually, the peg-launchers having to lead their target, then being confounded by evasive maneuvers, was fairly realistic. Technically, the naval anti-air guns were doing the same thing. The only problem is the unbearably slow reload time of those launchers; again, the continuous rapid-firing of the AA gun shows how to do it right.

"because of chinese cinema dollar ".. the fact that you know that infiriates me beyond words.... hahahhaha

I forget - have you already covered the Martians from the War of the Worlds remake? I'm not sure there's enough for an entire video, but they deserve an honorable (or is that dishonorable) mention for having an attack plan that hinged entirely on reactivating warmachines that have been in the ground for millions of years, not to mention assuming that local microbes wouldn't evolve to be deadly in all that time. Hell, they were probably done in by microbes left behind by whatever team buried the original warmachines - it's a lot more plausible than a random Earth microbe attaching itself to a literally alien biology. In any case, this was another great video - the regents make no sense at all.

“Too stupid to really exist” is an overstatement! For a Michael Bay movie, this actually gave us some of the best alien invaders until we saw the Flaxans from Invincible! Their melee weapons leave a lot to be desired because they aren’t used to Earthling assault rifles. Their soldiers do everything in their power to avoid hitting peaceful locals. They value the lives of their soldiers as seen when they launch a rescue mission for the one captured by the humans. The first five ships are reconnaissance and they immediately prepare to reestablish communications with their home world.

11:44 "You're taking on movie humans." LOL that's a great line.

When I saw the movie I thought they were explorers trying to contact home because they are stranded on earth.

you completely misunderstood the directors intention in the film. The Aliens weren't hostile invaders, there's a scene when the aliens are near the array and the female alien says to a sailor "help us" so best guess is they are refugee's on the run from something that attacked them. but as soon as the navy ship fired a "warning shot" the aliens mistook it for a hostile action that just missed them and then it escalated from there.

I don't think it WAS an invasion, I think it was an attempt at first contact gone disastrously wrong.

High tech alien navy engaged by a 21st century navy crew, using an early 20th century ship, and out maneuvered by a 15th century sailing trick. "They're club haulling us!"

Maybe The Regents are from planet Kerbal?

I always wondered what the Navy's submarines were doing during all of this.

So basically, the AirForce could rip them to shreds in an hour

Battleship:*literally makes irony on Human Insecurities*

Hear is a theory what if this was not an invasion force, more like a diplomatic ship and there escorts. the diplomatic ship was the one destroyed when it impacted with the satellite, and the other ships did not have the long range communication ability or the training to continue the mission, lets say they have a cast system and the only ones left were the warrior and worker casts. if they were ordered by there leaders to avoid conflict with the humans and there rules of engagement were as messed up as the USA's during the Vietnam War it would make sense. also they deploy the drones after they have bean engaged repeatedly by the Humans, just a thought. also if the The Regents are divided into a cast system or something that would the training that there personal get it would explain the garbled telepathic message that one gave the main character. lets say it what the main character so was not what they planed for earth but what was happening to there world. it might also explain why there ships were so poorly If you where are at war with another some one that was causing as much damage as what was shone in that "vision" would you send your best weapons on a diplomatic mission, or would you pullout some mothball peace of crap and send that instead and leave your biggest guns for the front? The Mothball theory would also explain to a point why the Regents seem incompetent if they are using weapons ships and equipment that they are not well trained in the use of it might explain why they seam to have such difficulty controlling there there tech. well those are just my thoughts. good video!

Despite the rather generic design..I kinda liked the Regents. heck, overall, I liked the movie. We are told that it's an invasion, but to me, the aliens seemed , rather too nice and even quite honorable chaps. If I was some analyst with a brain in this film, I might even make the suggestion that these guys actually landed here by accident , and were just trying to go home with as little fuss as possible, until things are escalated by the humans.

I love it how u always put Tuvoc in there to say what we all think.. hahaha brilliant.. lol. My favs where the Psylos, the kryptonians and the aliens from signs.. haha keep up the great work mate...

I love how central Tuvok is in these videos.

What do you guys think about a movie based on the board game... Risk?

The one about the battleship you've got most of it wrong they had no way to communicate to their civilization and that's why they where there and also why it only took a few ships to kill them otherwise they would've radio for back up They where probably trying to get back home but didn't have enough of alien gas

Once the shield goes down, an AC-130 or a A-10 Thunderbolt would easily annihilate the entire Reget Fleet

Honestly, I like to think that the aliens are just panicked refugees fleeing from their homeworld and they simply militarized civilian vessels, it'd help to explain some things about them.

Given the attempts at making a Hasbro movie universe, was this movie retroactively made part of the Transformers series?

Could you do the Saiyans and Freeza's empire (not possible to mention one without the other) from Dragon Ball Z? Just the way the Saiyans went from a primitive hunter-gather society to advanced space faring civilization by killing all the Truffles and stealing their technology is hard to believe. Instead of enslaving the remaining Truffles to build and maintain the technology they wanted they somehow traveled to another planet without their help. Then met another alien race that needed a new planet to live on and did a business deal to conquer a new habitual planet for them to live on in exchange of scientists and engineers to maintain their newly acquired technology. They made this a successful business venture with other aliens for 10 years before getting conquered by Freeza who then used them to conquer other planets for him faster than he could do it alone. Which then Brings up Freeza who is a genocidal maniac conquering planets much faster than can be repopulated with either his own race that there isn't many of or the various alien races who work for him. After noticing that Saiyans get stronger after surviving a serious injury he gets paranoid and destroys their planet and all but 4 Saiyans are left. He not only allows 3 of them to keep working for him instead of killing them all but allows them to personally retrieve the 4th Saiyan who was suppose to conquer Earth but didn't. Freeza is then eventually defeated and killed by a Saiyan.

These videos are brilliant. You spend more time explaining how alien antagonists are horrible then their creators thought about them while writing.

The regent ships were probably developed for a different environment. Their planet probably has a shallower ocean where the jumps make more sense and different naval tactics were implemented and so all the regent’s moves make sense based on their experience and training

The shredders seems crazy good as a terror weapon, too bad you need a bit more than that in you military toolbox.

what if this was not a military invasion, but rather a diplomatic mission, but because they lost the communication ship they could translate or have any authority from home planet, hence why they were reluctant to kill, and the humans did attack first after all, and the planet we see being bombed wasn't earth but their world or something, like he was trying to convey "theres an intergalactic war going on rn you guys might want our help now they know your here" but the humans were to stupid and took it as a threat. idk

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16:36 To this day i still love the design of that, as how he already said, "Unspeakably Badass" shredder wheels.

Do you have all that Star trek content just saved around

with the movie battleship, I think that the vision the alien showed him was actually to show how they destroyed their own world, and needed a new one to colonize. the ships they sent may have very well been damaged as they entered our solar system. keep in mind that they didn't become overtly hostile until Hopper fired a "warning shot" or when they made physical contact with one of the structures. they should have contacted the government to inform them of the structures rather than taking it into their own hands, which is something you should never do with an unknown entity, hence the poor navel procedures mentioned here. it seems they were more looking to colonize and perhaps use the communication ship to not only link with their homeworld, but with us as well. I think the vision scene was a bit of wasted potential as he never really revealed what he saw and put it up for interpretation. just a little theory of mine.

That brother that really did lose his legs to an IED in Iraq. He was a badass. In this movie.

my biggest gripe. It takes up to three days to move the Missouri. Sure, she's oil fired, but it's still a steam plant that is used for propulsion. You don't get to knock off a couple banners, cut away mooring chins, hit the throttle and go. The steam plant during war time was never shut down, but would at worst be dropped to 'idle' unless the ship was expected to be moored for an extended period. From dead cold, at least a solid 2 days of fires in her boilers before she'd even have enough steam to pull away from the dock.

The Aliens from Mars Needs Moms *shivers* Or the Killer Klowns from Outer Space...

Not going to lie... This is a guilty pleasure of mine.

When you trade your common sense for badass tech:

It's ridiculous how their projectiles spin up just before being fired but then tumble on their way to the target XD

I've always thought the regents initial intent wasn't violent. My thought is, they can't see our tech, as indicated during the movie. They hit the satellite because they didnt know it was there. From thier perspective we called them over then blew up one of thier ships when they got here. The regent that projected to hopper probably had a friend or family on the downed ship, was pissed off and projected what it wanted to happen to earth. Probably why they only attack when threatened. If I'm not mistaken I thought it was also established that not all the regents were soilders but scientists. Thier original mission was likely exploration. When you think about it the same thing would happen here. What if a country called on another for help and when the other country showed up one of their ships is attacked. I think it will play out just the same, minus the force field.

I'd like to see the counterpoint of this: sci-fi civilizations that are entirely likely.

The movie was in response to the navy decommissioning battleships. The traditional battleship no longer exists. The game makers wanted to both honor the battleship AND advertise the game.

My theory is that might have been a mining unit that had their communication damaged to the point they can only receive but not send. So they go to earth after receiving a message, which they realized they could use to call home for assistance. They didn't want to fight the beings on the planet so they set up the force field, only fight when necessary, and destroy things that could be used to attack or stop them (doesn't explain why they didn't destroy the boats though). Their weapons seemed to be based around defense and destruction of the environment more than military offense.

7:58 what if the hyperspace communication caused their planet to explode

I honestly forgot that this movie was a thing

Squids make very similar leaps into limited flight mode, but at least below a certain size they have much better control.

The sequel to this when the full Alien Force arrives would be the RISK movie