Adventure heavyweights rated! Adventure top dogs on- and off-road ft TT-winner James Hillier | MCN

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8 ай бұрын

#GS #KTM #adventure
Sports Editor Michael Guy is joined by Chief Road Tester Michael Neeves and Isle of Man TT winner James Hillier to find the best big adventure bike on the market today. Watch the video now and find out more on each bike below.
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@jameshillierracing
@jameshillierracing 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for having me on the test, was good fun getting to ride at sweet lamb. A Great venue with a little bit of everything for these adventure bikes.
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev 8 ай бұрын
Privilege to watch you choosing your lines and muscling these big bikes through the stuff most of us adventure riders are too chicken to try! Great riding Mr Hillier.
@gadjules7334
@gadjules7334 8 ай бұрын
I'd be happy with 10 percent of your skill off road. Thanks for sharing, awesome to watch chap
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 8 ай бұрын
thanks for doing it - brilliant job fella, brilliant
@almightyhimself9284
@almightyhimself9284 8 ай бұрын
james, grow a pair of real balls nd stop this british bias !
@horse5407
@horse5407 8 ай бұрын
Enjoyed that very much.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 8 ай бұрын
Now that's an Adventure Bike test!! 👏
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼🏁🏁
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 8 ай бұрын
Would be interested to see you, TMF, TeapotOne and Gregg do a group test on these.
@jonpeters5194
@jonpeters5194 8 ай бұрын
Roll the Intro!
@anderspetersson5279
@anderspetersson5279 8 ай бұрын
Chops!! 😎
@MOTOUK1
@MOTOUK1 8 ай бұрын
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOneI know the results, TMF, BMW - LCR, Ducati - Vida, Africa twin - Teapot One, BMW 😂😂😂
@DJAguitars
@DJAguitars 8 ай бұрын
Would love to see the midweights reviewed in exactly the same format with the Africa Twin also there as the wildcard. Great job MCN! 👍
@lukeadv
@lukeadv 8 ай бұрын
Yes to this, would be great
@babyfknblu
@babyfknblu 8 ай бұрын
yes!!!
@scottstansbury1409
@scottstansbury1409 8 ай бұрын
Me too, I chose the 2023 triumph tiger 900 rally pro
@aaronkelley6335
@aaronkelley6335 8 ай бұрын
Yeah would have loved to see the Africa Twin in this. Kinda wild the Japanese bikes are an afterthought in this category.
@defylifeadventure
@defylifeadventure 8 ай бұрын
The Africa twin certainly isn't a middle weight by any definition. It's well over 1000c, and over 230kg. It's not quite up to capacity or power of these beasts either. It seems to occupy some ground in no-mans-land but is better suited to the heavyweights, rather middleweights. IIRC Upshift Online tested it around a track (off road) and it was some 7 seconds slower than a KTM 990 Adventure. The 790 Adventure was faster still, so the AT wouldn't fair well in mini time trial they do here. Would still be fun to see though.
@johnwaugh6518
@johnwaugh6518 8 ай бұрын
As biased KTM1290 SAR rider, the comment I would make is that most adventure riders will find the tarmac parts easier than the off road/gravel road bits. It's here that the added confidence that the KTM gives makes all the difference and reduces stress, making real adventure riding more of a pleasure.
@sloppyjoe6243
@sloppyjoe6243 8 ай бұрын
Agreed 100%. I havn't ridden adventure, but have done a ton of dirt bike and street riding. The off road portion would be my number one priority if I was serious about adventure riding. Picking up a 550 plus pound bike off the side of a dirt road could get real old real fast.
@red.riot.2280
@red.riot.2280 8 ай бұрын
Their complaints would have been fixed with the stock S model…. I get they didn’t have it. But come on…..
@charliepyle1626
@charliepyle1626 2 ай бұрын
I agree, the tough roads and trails can break you, literally. It is easy to buy a comfy seat and taller screen.
@bikesbabes4721
@bikesbabes4721 Ай бұрын
Never had a KTM, totally convinced its passion personified! Also suspect I will have to pay more and more often for maintenance.. No?
@johnwaugh6518
@johnwaugh6518 Ай бұрын
@@bikesbabes4721 15000km service interval (though I did it more often) other than that, no problems on 50K riding my 1290 SAR or in 45K on my 1190 R
@AJSpinDrift
@AJSpinDrift 8 ай бұрын
One of the best MCN videos to date. A fantastic review and a format that's engaging and genuinely informative. More like this please.
@LimitEdit
@LimitEdit 8 ай бұрын
totally agree!!
@Timmayytoo
@Timmayytoo 8 ай бұрын
Cool test! The Triumph was a bit of a surprise, but the rest fell pretty much where I would have predicted. This makes me even more eager to see the R1300 tests against the R1250
@kyailusakayamba6052
@kyailusakayamba6052 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely love this format. Getting to see the bikes in action was everything
@GCTO239
@GCTO239 8 ай бұрын
Best test ever I think…the offroad race was sublime.
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
Hillier's not bad, is he? Thanks for watching!
@Crsf84
@Crsf84 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂sublime😂😂 That’s a sky sports comments if ever there was one
@donarmstrong4166
@donarmstrong4166 8 ай бұрын
Brits choose the Brit bike as #1. Save yourself 40+ minutes...
@elefunk13
@elefunk13 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@kennyb7883
@kennyb7883 7 ай бұрын
lol.. ya I saw that coming also. And they left out the original king of kings Africa Twin
@dcampi7597
@dcampi7597 7 ай бұрын
​@@kennyb7883they left out the Africa Twin because then the brit bike wouldn't come out on top 😂
@Kevimoto
@Kevimoto 7 ай бұрын
I guess you haven't watched a lot of British tests then. Let me guess...you're a KTM rider and you don't like hearing people that don't agree with you. 😂
@Kevimoto
@Kevimoto 7 ай бұрын
​@@kennyb7883I've seen quite a few Brit ADV shootouts where the Triumph doesn't come out on top. I think there are a lot of people out there, desperately looking for confirmation bias...and when they don't get that, they act out. Lol
@markkuijper1964
@markkuijper1964 8 ай бұрын
Now that’s a great and useful review. Great objective tests and opinions on both the two categories. Really enjoyed this 42 minutes. Well done!
@michaelskinner896
@michaelskinner896 8 ай бұрын
Nice work gents! Great format too. I think we all look a little too much at the paper stats, but real-world riding with feedback from different riders is much more relevant and important. Thanks for the comparo!
@hectoralmonte3629
@hectoralmonte3629 4 ай бұрын
I was on the edge of my seat holding my breath...what a joy of an episode. Every bike class and purpose should be tested in their element like this.
@NicePantsLance
@NicePantsLance 8 ай бұрын
The Triumph really is the best of all worlds! The BMW is good, but the Tiger beats it in performance. The Multi is amazing, but its expensive and reliability is in question. The KTM is sporty, but doesnt have much touring chops and still has chain drive. The Tiger provides GS-beating performance, good engine reliability, superior touring comfort, and a decent price compared to the rest. Not to mention, the Tiger triple at high revs almost sounds like a V4 😁
@soldat2501
@soldat2501 Ай бұрын
To be fair, switching from a Tiger 1050 to an R1200GS saved my life. The Tiger was just that much quicker and it caused me to take chances I never could on the GS.
@phillipchandler8862
@phillipchandler8862 8 ай бұрын
Wow what brilliant fun. Fantastic to have James along.
@jeremymcguire7069
@jeremymcguire7069 8 ай бұрын
This is one of the best and most interesting comparison/test reviews I have ever seen for any category of motorcycle. Great job!
@MrBiggles
@MrBiggles 8 ай бұрын
Great test thanks guys! And a big well done to Triumph!! 🎉
@ashleylemmer8016
@ashleylemmer8016 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved the format of this test, thanks guys.
@davidwilliamswilliams7174
@davidwilliamswilliams7174 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for a really good watch. Bit of a surprise with the winner, but just shows what a great job Triumph have done with their bike 👍
@corujariousa
@corujariousa 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate and respect Michael's reviews. He's always practical and addresses points that are important in the real world. Any consumer can appreciate that.
@Fernando90054
@Fernando90054 8 ай бұрын
I’m going for the BMW, with all its years it still gets the second place on the road test. And in real world its an absolute joy to ride, no diving when braking, it’s still a queen, where ever you go in Europe, we can have proper technical Assistance, but in general it’s non needy bike, always eager to please its master. For me the choice is clear. And now, it is even more. Thank you for the video, it was an excellent job from NCM !
@Moto_Steve_Adventures
@Moto_Steve_Adventures 8 ай бұрын
Love this test! I bought the Triumph after riding the BMW and the Ducati. I didn’t test the KTM before purchasing, mainly because I knew it would be more off-road focused and I wanted something that would be nice and plush on the road for longer road trips. Very happy with my decision, and you just proved what I thought as well. Great video!
@timrodierides
@timrodierides 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant video - those hot laps were absolute gold!
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@gabrielleroux3556
@gabrielleroux3556 5 ай бұрын
Incredible reviews and tests. Thank you!
@NoTengoIlusiones
@NoTengoIlusiones 6 ай бұрын
"cream of ADV bikes" and not including the mythical Africa Twin ??!?! It's like throwing a cocktail party without glasses 🤣
@raonyca
@raonyca 24 күн бұрын
Africa Twin is not considered a heavyweight bike. That's the reason...
@heilpepe7298
@heilpepe7298 Ай бұрын
A real comprehensive test of these giant bikes.... Thanks....
@richardperry4105
@richardperry4105 8 ай бұрын
Please do this again when the new GS comes out. This is really great benchmarking.
@jamespegram8843
@jamespegram8843 8 ай бұрын
After 40 odd years on bikes cant quite get head around bikes like this.. back in the dim and distant past the best off road bike was a 110 kg Yamaha dt 175. Think these bikes are the equivalent of a range rover.. the only time they go off road is to bump up the pavement to park..😂
@Michael_Shay
@Michael_Shay 8 ай бұрын
I think doing some long term trips will give some insight as to why some of these bikes are so popular. Personally I don't have a truck or trailer and I don't want to deal with loading/unloading. I want to get on the back and go. With that being said, personally, I'd probably go for something more middleweight than these machines. But I definitely respect those who can flick them around like they're a light bike.
@SirOsisofLiver
@SirOsisofLiver 8 ай бұрын
Completely agree. First thing that came to mind was “Chelsea Tractors”
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 8 ай бұрын
Well said James. You only have to see how many are up for sale with negligible mileage on them. I recently sat on a GS and OMG it is SO heavy. Fair enough,I'm sure it's stable once you get going but the thought of navigating tight twisty bends in Scotland or the Pyrenees on something that weighs so much is not appealing. Add in the obscene cost of buying one and I would personally rather have a Honda NC750X
@WerdnaLiten
@WerdnaLiten 8 ай бұрын
There's a reason off-road motorcycle racing (MX, Enduro, RallyRaid) are on lightweight bikes between 250cc-450cc......Heavyweight adventure bikes are overkill.
@Michael_Shay
@Michael_Shay 8 ай бұрын
@@WerdnaLiten not for traveling...
@RikkyTang
@RikkyTang 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant video! it's greeat to see these big adventure bikes being pushed off road and compared directly against each other 👍 Some great filming too!
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! It's amazing how capable all of these bikes are when you stop to think about the weight, size, and tech onboard. We had fun pushing them to the limit.
@casefarley5744
@casefarley5744 8 ай бұрын
Good test and well presented. I doubt many of these bikes will be ridden as hard as Hillier did during his laps but the data is still useful.
@alexmatthews9536
@alexmatthews9536 4 ай бұрын
great test, thx for making this
@Aussielifeadventures
@Aussielifeadventures 2 ай бұрын
I love my 22 Triumph Tiger rally pro. Beautiful to ride to work and on the weekend I take her to dirt. Thank you so much for the great video guys.
@brettlashbrook8527
@brettlashbrook8527 8 ай бұрын
Excellent review. Fun to watch and informative. Top job and well done Triumph. All the best Brett.
@1050speed
@1050speed 8 ай бұрын
Has to be the best road test I've seen that was great looking forward to more similar content
@traitorhatergetarope3163
@traitorhatergetarope3163 8 ай бұрын
Not having ridden any of the these bikes except for the GSA and mostly the long rides knocking down 500 to 900 miles a day and occasionally hitting the dirt roads to find a fishing spot or a camping spot, I ride the GSA on my journeys. I have eyed the triumph a few times but have to say I am quite satisfied with my GSA. Great test, really shows the capabilites of all the bikes and what to expect from each bike. Thanks for the video.
@robt7773
@robt7773 8 ай бұрын
One of the best videos you have done guys..well done and thanks!!.Nevsey absolutely nailed it in his summary…I’ve ridden all four and his conclusions are spot on…Triumph have made a very comfortable touring bike that is more than able to put a smile on your face when you get to your location… they will need to review it now that the 1300 GS has been released. Well done guys!!!!
@shawntoronto7967
@shawntoronto7967 8 ай бұрын
Congrats on the best adventure bike test ever. Love that there’s a fast off-road section.
@bobrose7900
@bobrose7900 8 ай бұрын
Great video, pleased for Triumph - a big thumbs up, I actually think it looks quite good too.
@joeblow5037
@joeblow5037 8 ай бұрын
Although this '18 KLR-650 rider will never have the privilege of riding one of these monsters.....you guys got me pretty close 😲 EXCELLENT video!! and thanks for the massive effort. ❤
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
Well said!
@Mikolaj_u
@Mikolaj_u 3 ай бұрын
Loved the test. Amazing work! Subscribed
@andybeetson9117
@andybeetson9117 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant test guys , had my eye on the triumph for a while now , wish it was a bit more purposeful looking but great all- rounder 👍👍
@mordauntbrabner3804
@mordauntbrabner3804 8 ай бұрын
Bravo! I ride 5 miles of potted gravel roads daily on my 2017 Ducati Multistrada 1200 Enduro. Rain or shine. All of these bikes have great character and provide the rider choices in fit, function and maintainability suited to individual style and likes. Rallying is way beyond my limits. JH showed what each of these bikes is truly capable of doing. Very entertaining.
@kiwiadventurer
@kiwiadventurer 7 ай бұрын
Consider me subscribed. A real world test with a seasoned cross section of experience. You covered all the bases and your production formulae nailed it. If I was on the market again for a big duel sport this video would go a long way to help me make a choice based on the raw soul of the bikes. There is much to consider re ease of servicing such as air filters price etc, but all that in 42mins. Thats what I call an adventure bike test, well done.👍
@gadjules7334
@gadjules7334 8 ай бұрын
What a fantastic review, I thoroughly enjoyed that. A thorough test with expert riders and very enjoyable to boot. Thank you
@jasonball9166
@jasonball9166 2 ай бұрын
Best test of these machines I've seen yet....well done loved it
@clintonhayes
@clintonhayes 8 ай бұрын
Clearly you guys are the masters of road tests. That was as good as it gets - an amazing team.
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@ConstantinDendrinos
@ConstantinDendrinos 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this test. Really great test and presentation! I would also choose the Tiger for the same reasons you have mentioned.
@ronwilt940
@ronwilt940 5 ай бұрын
Terrific review and format for testing these bikes. All the commentary was superb. Triumph pulled out all the stops. They've released details on their 2024 lineup except for the Tiger 1200s. Are we in for more surprises?
@bobholley6202
@bobholley6202 7 ай бұрын
Great vid and comparison! Will Be upgrading from my 2020 Tiger 1200 soon and this vid is super helpful. I’ll have to check out the new GS1300 but a Tiger 1200 Rally Pro is still looking mighty good. Cheers!
@adderhoney
@adderhoney 8 ай бұрын
Really excellent test, guys. Glad that I subscribed online. Keep it up! 😊
@AbeNXC
@AbeNXC 5 ай бұрын
Really appreciate you guys going to the extent of putting them all on the same tire
@fuze59
@fuze59 8 ай бұрын
This was loads of fun! A test I and some others might find relevant is taking each bike on a week long back country camping trip.
@MKA63
@MKA63 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I picked up my new GS yesterday (not the GSA). Loving it so far except where I am, there is rain forecast for the next 4 days . I would have found it interesting to see what happened to the off-road times if the tests were repeated immediately after.
@BlackThor15
@BlackThor15 8 ай бұрын
Amazing, simply amazing! Well done you MCN team!! Hopefully middleweight next. 👍👍
@sanatandharma4435
@sanatandharma4435 8 ай бұрын
Bloody frightening riding at that speed! Masterful riding James!
@chrisroos243
@chrisroos243 6 ай бұрын
Cool Test, Thank you. Damn, the KTM is a beast! I think i will get one next year!
@TwoGoTouring
@TwoGoTouring 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant video guys really well done, I watch nearly all your reviews and buy MCN. Now comes the but…… 90% or more of these big bikes will never be off road. I have a GSA and couldn’t afford the damage risk. I have nearly 27,000 miles on it in two years and for about 23,000 of those my wife has been on the back, and I would guess there’s a lot of us out here that ride two up quite a lot of the time touring Wales, Scotland the Alps etc. I’d love to see a test where you load up your loved ones on the back of the bikes, fill the panniers with luggage and cover 1000 miles or more in a test of mixed roads and get the opinion of your pillions as well as yourselves on riding a bike fully loaded. I’ve never seen a test like that in any motorcycle magazine.
@violetscz
@violetscz 8 ай бұрын
I would also be interested in this review. I feel the same as you. I travel on a Ducati MTS V4S motorcycle and 90% of the trips I ride with my wife. I've only been driving for 2 years and 38,000 km. Czech Republic/Europe
@mohammede.4500
@mohammede.4500 8 ай бұрын
I would think a R1250RS would be a better comparison test for those who have no plans on taking the bike off road. Better comfort, street manners, etc..
@dieged3065
@dieged3065 8 ай бұрын
👍
@altugafat9543
@altugafat9543 8 ай бұрын
If using the motorcycle with a passenger is a choice, GS may be the choice, but if you do not have a passenger, traveling with a GS is soulless. An adventure motorcycle must also have off-road spirit.
@sganzerlag
@sganzerlag 7 ай бұрын
Dude sorry, but that's simply touring. It's arguably not adventure riding, is it? If you're gonna run a tarmac-only two-up review, then the Goldwing should be in the test. And it will probably win. My 2c.
@canuckslions3439
@canuckslions3439 4 ай бұрын
Great reviews! I bought the 2023 Rally Explorer a few days ago. Got rid of my super tenere. I think I’ll notice a difference haha. Ride safe guys and take care! Darin Hillier in Calgary Canada
@chaitanyachiplunkar500
@chaitanyachiplunkar500 8 ай бұрын
Dynamic comparison test.😀👍 every aspect was thoroughly checked for on/off-road. kudos🎉
@chrismalton1904
@chrismalton1904 7 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed watching the test, cheers 👍
@jonathandavies6862
@jonathandavies6862 8 ай бұрын
👀 Damn Triumph came out swinging! 💪great objective tests on & off road + excellent feedback from the Pro's! 👍well done MCN
@dickiemcgeezacks9458
@dickiemcgeezacks9458 8 ай бұрын
I don't know if I'm a cheap ass or what, but I could be making 6 figures and still not want to take my $30,000 bike off road, even with engine guards and all this other crap on it.
@defylifeadventure
@defylifeadventure 8 ай бұрын
Nice to see MCN upping its content game and using a control tyre too. Great stuff. There seems to be an obsession with Sweet Lamb though. there are other places to visit that the viewers would like to see too even if Molly is a great dude.
@Frank-xo7zj
@Frank-xo7zj 8 ай бұрын
Thank you gentlemen I really enjoyed this!
@ENGBriseB
@ENGBriseB 8 ай бұрын
Triumph have come along way. Great review guys.
@dafyddprichard4107
@dafyddprichard4107 8 ай бұрын
Great video! I’d love to see the exactly same test repeated with the next-size-down equivalent models - BMW F850GS, Tiger 900, KTM 890, etc - would the weight saving and extra nimbleness result in quicker times compared to the larger siblings?
@7443jan
@7443jan 7 ай бұрын
Best test ever between this bikes. The Dunlop Trail max is probably my next tyre on my KTM 690R. It would be nice to hear something about the experience of the riders with these tyres.
@andrewshore262
@andrewshore262 8 ай бұрын
Unsurprised by the result…..The Tiger is a sublime ride but I’m biased - great test!
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
Great point!
@MOTOUK1
@MOTOUK1 8 ай бұрын
Amazing video guys, amazing test and owning a tiger 1200 rally pro I can say too Neevesy I agree most comfy adventure bike, I did an 850 mile day with just fuel stops and so comfy. Triumph sure did a good job as they do on all there bikes. I don’t know of a manufacturer that has such a wide genre of bikes and all great. 😂 hence I own a Bonneville and a Tiger 👍
@jamest5149
@jamest5149 8 ай бұрын
Great review and format. James is a great addition to the presenters 👏
@thebigoaktree8401
@thebigoaktree8401 8 ай бұрын
Great video. Own a 23 Rally Pro (4850 miles on the clock). Longest trip 1300 miles …it was a gem to ride for all of the reasons that Nivs stated. Bought it as an adventure tourer, or should I say tourer adventure instead? Yes 🤔. Comfortable, capable, and a complete hammer when I need it to be. But the weight of the bike isn’t something for the faint of heart, or physically weak for that matter. If the bike begins to lean at stop before your foot is down …good luck with that! The Rally Pro looks far better in the hands of a pro. Nothing to “play” with. Great bike.
@sprintermaximus
@sprintermaximus 8 ай бұрын
This was great to watch. Great test by some great riding.
@YangCalgary
@YangCalgary 8 ай бұрын
When James says he loses confidence while ripping through sections that would make me sweat at low speed ... brilliant format!
@mdragon99
@mdragon99 8 ай бұрын
Gooooo Tiiiiiigeeeeer!! KTM 1290 for the Off Road was a given, but I'm amazed by how much!
@steffencave9363
@steffencave9363 Ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@MagnumMuscle1000
@MagnumMuscle1000 8 ай бұрын
The KTM 1290 hugely benefits from a taller screen, bar risers and a comfort seat. With those mods I like it much better on road than the 2016 GSA I used to have. Off-road the KTM is far superior.
@northislander4evasir107
@northislander4evasir107 8 ай бұрын
agreed, I added all three
@inked-96
@inked-96 7 ай бұрын
How had reliability been?
@geoffball9547
@geoffball9547 8 ай бұрын
One of the best reviews ever!
@PureEvolution
@PureEvolution 8 ай бұрын
off to test ride the tiger this friday perfect video to what before hand nice work guys allways deliver
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
Have fun!
@user-vi7vl7bh8v
@user-vi7vl7bh8v 8 ай бұрын
It's interesting comparing just the on-road times too ! (I tried to take the times when both wheels were on the tarmac) The Ducati & BMW were the same times on road. KTM was fastest on both surfaces. Bike OffRoad Finish OnRoad KTM 1:02 1:34 (+0:32) triumph 1:05 1:39 (+0:34) ducati 1:08 1:43 (+0:35) BMW 1:10 1:45 (+0:35)
@altugafat9543
@altugafat9543 8 ай бұрын
absolutely yes
@gordonhenry7760
@gordonhenry7760 8 ай бұрын
Great review...loved the enthusiasm!
@TheHigh0ctane
@TheHigh0ctane 8 ай бұрын
Great review! Very best riders and very best bikes is a fantastic combination. Thank you!
@stitchjones7134
@stitchjones7134 8 ай бұрын
Downsized to a 690 from a 1290, havent regretted it at all. Light, practical and i can still tour if I want to. Good luck with the big buggers, my little thumper does it all.
@SuperWolffie
@SuperWolffie 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video...I loved it. Next time, I hope, with the new F900GS and his rivals...please.
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev 8 ай бұрын
Great video gentlemen and a proper surprise result. Well done Triumph.
@garyhutson6361
@garyhutson6361 8 ай бұрын
Great watch. Fantastic jobs 👌🏼
@josech
@josech 8 ай бұрын
It’s great to see all of them have a different focus within the category, more options for everyone. I personally prefer middle weight bikes, always ride solo, with soft and little luggage.
@GCTO239
@GCTO239 8 ай бұрын
Africa Twin should be in it though. It is a bloody fantastic bike and DCT is unique and easily the best system on the market. Forget about peak power. The 11000 engine delivers nicely.
@tubejorrit
@tubejorrit 8 ай бұрын
More comparable with the Vstrom 1050, its not a super naked.
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment. The Africa Twin was left out of this one due to being so down on power. It would've done well off-road though. We'll look to add it to the next big test we do like this.
@inked-96
@inked-96 8 ай бұрын
I use my 1200GSA as my new work horse, plenty powerful, comfortable, can't fault it. Whilst it's no KTM or Ducati for outright fun, i do have an RSV4 as a weekend toy. Great test guys!
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like a great two-bike garage!
@rdavidsen7344
@rdavidsen7344 8 ай бұрын
Enjoyed your review. Massively appreciate your keen work. One major question: Is (just about) a minute of actual off-road test comparison truly enough to differentiate? Thanks.
@guymathew1520
@guymathew1520 8 ай бұрын
Great test. Really enjoyed that. FWIW I have a Triumph RP 1200 and agree with all the comments made by Neevesy about how comfortable and easy it is to ride. I am encouraged to take it further off road than I have. I'd be happy with any of the bikes on test really, don't rate the Honda AT and have yet to try a Desert X but we are indeed spoiled for choice at the moment.
@adamc209
@adamc209 8 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff! Happy with my 1200 GSA, does everything well 😎
@2wheels1guy25
@2wheels1guy25 8 ай бұрын
Great video! But…too bad you didn’t include the Honda ATAS (preferably manual). It would be interesting to see if the lack of power and bump in reliability would be an acceptable trade off. But hey…at least this leaves room for future tests!
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 8 ай бұрын
Yep, always room for future tests! Especially now Honda have updated it again, too... It was left out of this test due to the lack of power compared to the other bikes included. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 8 ай бұрын
Also, I doubt the lack of power matters offroad. It is no wonder most mid-range adventure bikes put down about 70bhp. Its nearly impossible to put down more power offroad with unstable surfaces.
@markosrides
@markosrides 8 ай бұрын
Very nice test, I'm just baffled that you chose the GSA which is 40 kilos heavier than the rest and then compared the off-road performance. Regular GS would have been a better choice as it is more in line with these bikes, although the suspension travel is smaller. Same goes for Triumph. Cheers!
@youtubeaccount9058
@youtubeaccount9058 8 ай бұрын
R1250GS Rallye with sport suspension would be the best fit for this test - it's a GS with the GSA's taller suspension.
@aimeYM1
@aimeYM1 8 ай бұрын
Yes - Indeed, that's a compelling argument. The GS experienced unjust treatment🤔, yet it's worth noting they also employed the heavier Triumph Explorer😋.
@nikoscosmos
@nikoscosmos 8 ай бұрын
Pointless test given launch of R1300GS
@youtubeaccount9058
@youtubeaccount9058 8 ай бұрын
@@nikoscosmos There is always a new bike coming up soon, once you get up to including 3 or 4 companies. Anyways I am sure the new GS will not be a KTM-beating offroad racer. That just isn't what the GS has ever been, nor what most buyers really want. Yeah they were winning Dakar 40 years ago on works bikes that were related to the production models of the time, but the race itself was not basically an enduro race like now.
@shegocrazy
@shegocrazy 8 ай бұрын
All gs have rubbish suspension off road. The new gs might fix that.
@highwayman1218
@highwayman1218 2 ай бұрын
Thats a heck of an offroad rip on those big ADVs! 👍👍
@egilrasten4181
@egilrasten4181 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great test and review, always fun to see how the bikes compares when driven by professionals. To me, as an average rider and who is looking to buy one of these top adventure bikes, this «competition» becomes totally irrelevant (but great fun though) as I will have very different priorities when choosing one of the bikes. If I ever, by accident, ends up in such an off-road track, my only priority would be to get to the other end without crashing the bike. My preferred driving will be touring on twisty roads along with great nature and scenery, motorways for long distance transport is a necessity and perhaps a gravel-road now and then can be fun. The most challenging part for me is to drive on motorways at high speed and longer distances, which can be both tiring and boring, and it is my first priority that the bike is comfortable on the motorway over longer distances. Second priority, it shall be fun and comfortable to ride on twisty roads and that the traction control on wet and slippery roads is the best in class. I tested all the same bikes at end of this summer, not the top adventures bike as in this test, but the standard versions. The bike I liked to most (by a landslide!) was the Ducati Multistrada V4s. This bike had an enormous fun factor when driving on twisty roads, the engine and the quickshifter was unparalleled to any of the other bikes, and it was very comfortable on the motorway with adaptive cruise control and blind zone detection (some don’t like these accessories, but I do). Also, the Ducati is by far the best-looking bikes with great details and finish (just my personal opinion). The second bike was the BMW 1250 GS, which was very comfortable on twisty roads. It was not so comfortable on the motorway, as the wind-screen started wobbling from side to side at high speed. However, that can probably be fixed. Otherwise, the bike was great. If the new 1300 GS is way better than the old 1250 GS, it can certainly challenge the Ducati. Third was the Triumph Tiger 1200, and close to the BMW. It was very comfortable and its suspension was fantastic. Riding over a speed bump (at high speed) and the bike simply absorbed the speed bump (almost comparable to the old Citroen CX if you know this car). However, the Triumph was to me a bit boring and docile compared to the Ducati and BMW. Then I tried the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S from the same dealer, and riding on the same road as the Triumph. I simply didn’t like the KTM that much, it was kind of racketing, rough and “unpolished” compared to the other bikes. Over the same speed bump as the Triumph, and at the same speed, I actually lost contact with the seat and was up in the air for a nanosecond. Thus, totally different behaviour as the Triumph. However, I guess the suspension works very different when riding over a speed bump compared to riding hard-core off-road. As I stated above, I’ll never ride the bike in the most challenging off-road anyway, so speed bump capabilities will be much more important than off-road capabilities. Everyone must test for themselves and follow their own preferences. It is like music; some like opera other likes rock’n roll 😊. I have now ordered a new Ducati Multistrada Rally and will pick it up when the snow melts away during the spring and just can’t wait to start riding again. So again, thanks for a great review and I really enjoyed reading all the comments.
@dirtydean1
@dirtydean1 6 ай бұрын
Amazing test. Great job.
@thorstentrapp274
@thorstentrapp274 6 ай бұрын
Was really fun to watch.
@CurtisBrandt
@CurtisBrandt 5 ай бұрын
Great presentation and you shared some really essential features and characteristics of these machines in a relatively succinct production. Very nicely done. For me, I’d take the 1290R because I’ve already got a road-biased 1290, and I’d be looking for off-road performance. I have an 890R and it’s obviously plenty. But I just love that LC8 engine so much more than the LC8c.
@Beinhartwie1chopper
@Beinhartwie1chopper 7 ай бұрын
I am so glad that James didn't crash!
@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui
@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui 8 ай бұрын
Great review of the European big boys. Pop out now to order my Tiger!
@orangelion03
@orangelion03 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant test!!! Good stuff. My conclusion: we live in a time of plenty! Any one of these is a fantastic ride and it's wonderful we have so many choices. FYI: current ride is 21 Tiger 900RP, previous was 2006 GS and 2017 GSA.
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