How to deal with deadbeat dads according to Adventure Time: *ASCEND THEM TO A HIGHER PLANE OF EXISTENCE SO YOU NEVER HAVE TO SEE THEM AGAIN*

I feel like the whole episode was actually meant to be unsatisfying and anticlimactic. I think that pretty much embodies what it's like to meet a parent who you didn't know existed or was hyped up for years and years only to find they're a deadbeat, parasitic, garbage person. I feel like if we didn't know that Adventure Time was ending soon, this wouldn't be the last that we hear about Jake's origins and we would probably be dealing with him facing a lot of insecurities over the fact that his space dad was an asshole and the only reason for his existence is for a selfish asshole to drain of youth and throw away. aint that so true to life lmfao

I found "Jake the Starchild" to be a nod to the episode "Bonnibel Bubblegum" when she says "Families are tricky." Both Finn and Marceline understand due their dead beat dads, (although Huntson is now improving) but Jake shakes his head, being naive to the experience coming from a family who values who he is; his loyalty to his dad is clearly highlighted in this episode. It like that until he meets Warren, his own biodad willing to kill him in order to fulfill his selfish needs.

You know, Warren was at his best when he was just an "animal". No logic, no rhyme, no reason, no talking. Imagine how different the episode would have been if it was just Jake and a silent animal. This strange blue being doing what it's supposed to do, Jake can't ask it a question because it can't answer. It doesn't seem sad because it's the "last of its species" or the "first of its species". It just is. It doesn't care that Jake is there or not, and it doesn't recognize him or even care. A lesson about indifference to one's own being? A message that Jake didn't "have" to exist, but he does anyway; that he should be as content as that strange blue beast? That the beast will live as it desires and so should Jake. A "Peace of Mind" episode is the only way I can think to make Warren workable.

This episode was basically just the plot of Guardians of the Galaxy 2.

I find that there is a running theme of bad father figures going on in Adventure Time. Pendleton Ward was raised by a single mother, so his dad wasn't around for much of his childhood. We fairly don't know much about Pen's personal life, but it could be that his dad tried connecting back with him after his success, and it ended up not going as well as he hoped it would. Most of the major father figures on the show such as Hunsen, Martin, and this shapeshifter only connect with their children to use them for their own advantage. Just an observation, I mean the character of Finn is actually based on the creator himself, he was even named Pen in the original shorts.

Was sorta dissapointed the stretchy dude was given a voice, full name, and basically de-mystified after only seeing glimpses of the guy being, well... Being weird, cryptic and alien. Guess he learned how to talk after biting Joshua, dropping the five-way mouth to trick Jake and gain his trust better. I think. This was good. but like you said, it didn't do anything jawdropping.

I love how both Finn and Jake always acknowledge Joshua as their father.

Jake deserved his own miniseries.

I mean... both Joshua and Warren are Jake's biological parents. It's Margret that isn't his "real" parent. EDIT 2 years later: oof, i apologize for this old bad take of mine, should have used better wording. Joshua and Warren are Jake's biological parents but Margret and Joshua are his actual parents.

I think a big reason dead beat dads are so prominent in Adventure Time is because Pendelton Ward's dad was dead beat, and grew up just with his mom. This might have also been an influence on the character of Martin.

I think maybe the episode shows just how Jake's already solidified as a character. Its pretty fine. Its not THAT disapointing to me. It gets over a nice meaning that people who raised you are your parents and blood doesnt. Its pretty cool because Finn's reaction is more agressive and Jakes more decided

I think they should have made Ampersand some kind of lovecraftian horror and not able to communicate or think like jake in any way. The whole point could have been the same, but Apersand shouldn't have been able to articulate itself to jake in a meaningful way.

Jakes pups = rainicorn blood + dog blood + alien blood OwO

Didn't one of Jake's daughters streched to the size of the earth to walk across it?

It seems Elk has some *low-key affection* for this episode, haha. On a more serious note, Warren's stretchy powers far, FAR outclass Jake's. In addition to the stuff Elk mentioned, he's also able to make *different* shades of blue, make high-quality art by stretching, and is able to SOMEHOW MAKE A MIRROR OUT OF HIMSELF. I think Warren's so much better at Jake when it comes to stretching because of multiple reasons, including the fact that Warren's been around for a very, VERY long time so he's had much more time to practice and grow, plus he's a pureblood shapeshifter, unlike Jake.

I really wish that Adventure Time got more seasons. Jake's origin, the Gum War, Golb, and the Emissary from Beyond were all really rushed even if the final product still managed to turn out pretty good. They did the best with the time that they were given but it still stings that the product could have been better. This arc could especially have used a mini-series titled "Planets" or something where Finn, Jake, Jermaine (or one of Jake's children), and Lady go to space to discover Jake's true origin. It might be a bit too similar to Islands, but you get the idea behind what I'm doing. They could have done so much cool stuff and expanded on the cosmic lore of the series, so it's disappointing that we did not get this.

*IM GOING 4D BABY*

slicing up a elder god with his Grass sword on space - Uncivilized elk

I have some issues with “Jake the starchild”. While you described “Blenanas” as alright, it my opinion, Jake the starchild was just a hair above mediocre. There were just so many things that dampened my enjoyment, not enough to call it a bad episode, but enough for me to feel a little cheated by the time the credits were rolling. Issue #1, Pacing: You described how I felt about the pacing perfectly. The pacing was just so off and clunky. It felt like the entire plot was rushed for no real reason, I could forgive it if it was leading up to something extravagant, but there is literally ZERO tension at all. I get that Jake is a moron, but I expected him to at LEAST be competent enough to ask a question like “Why is this happening?” Or “Why me?” Cause lets me honest, Jake has his self-esteem cranked up to eleven. Overall, things blew by FAST, it felt like things were jumbled around a bit. Issue #2, Characters: While I was a little but not really disappointed that Jake didn’t really get any characterization, I was not at ALL a fan of Warren Ampersand. He didn’t have much going from him from the get-go, he was hyped up since he first appeared and now we find out that he’s just a Martin rehash? Not amused. I mean it was pretty obvious that he had nefarious intentions from the start, just based on his speech, which even JAKE was able to pick up on, as well as the vibe he gave off. I found Warren to be extremely two dimensional, he just wanted to live forever, that’s it? Also, what was with his complete shift in mood by the end? I mean his final words were nice and all, but all of a sudden he just accepts death when moments ago we was trying to reach Jake’s pups to gain their life juice? What? Also, I should bring up something that I REALLY didn’t like. Jake and Warren’s interactions 60% of the time were EXTREMELY awkward. All they do is talk about how Warren loves Jake and Jake is confused and excited at the same time, and the way overall Warren spoke and acted towards Jake came across to me personally, as extremely off. Essentially, what I’m trying to say is that Warren, is really boring in this episode, he’s boring to the max. Issue #3, Plot: The plot of this episode, is almost nonexistent. It could be really funny and fun at times, but mostly is was just, well...nonexistent. Like I said in my little rant about the pacing, nothing of substance or tension really happens, there’s ZERO tension. The entire episode is just Jake being delusional and Warren being a cocky jerk, aside from that they what, talk? By the time the battle began, things felt really stale, I didn’t feel hyped it was just “meh”. Also as I said in my pacing rant, nothing extravagant happens. This was the episode that was supposed to wrap up Jake’s origin arc with a nice little bow on top, but I felt it was executed rather sloppily. Okay here are some things that I actually LIKED about the episode, this is why I don’t find the episode BAD. Like #1, Visuals: I can’t even begin to describe how I freaking’ love the visuals. Jake sums it up with his comment on the “sci-fi vibe”, everything was very colorful and vibrant, it felt super polished and the sky and buildings were amazing. This really shows how the team can get creative and make something dazzling to the eye, I had a lot of fond memories of “Elements” during this episode, especially the Fire Kingdom. Like #2, 40% of Jake and Warren’s interactions: Like I said, I found 60% of our to main character’s interactions to be really awkward, But 40% of the time it was SO fun. Warren really gave off that “Dorkish, but cool” uncle kind of vibe and Jake was really fun too, he felt like the nephew. Overall, Jake the starchild was a okay episode. It was a big letdown on some areas, but was able to be captivating and fun enough for it to be somewhat also enjoyable, I really can’t wait for your Temple Of Mars review!

Jake's fear of vampires makes kinda sense now

I’m kind of disappointed of more of the main design of Warren. He had a strange, but cool design prior to this episode. But replacing Warren’s star-shaped mouth with the regular, generic mouth that almost everyone has lessens the mystery around Warren.

I think when warren said “I’m going 4D, baby” is going to be relevant. We know Golb will be the final enemy, and that the grassy octopus will also be related. Golb seems to have domain over a permanent or banishment death, possibly whatever 4D is, something that super powerful beings like Prismo can’t beat or cheat around. A black hole is pretty freaking powerful, especially the one we saw, so maybe warren will show up with Golb at the end. That would give us a Finn counter in the grassy octopus and a Jake counter in warren, sort of like a champions vs champions thing

I have a Theory about THE ORIGIN OF THE BELTS I believe Warren use to live on his Home planet with others beings with stretchy powers. The Belt could have been Built Originally for people who had serious illness One of their species realized they could use it to siphon power into another, perhaps if they were seriously ill, one of their species could volunteer to wear the belt & siphon some of their energy to them to improve the others health. I believe Warren stole the device and tricked some of his species that he was ill so he could siphon some of the energy to extent his life. He was eventually found out and exiled, therefore because he wasn't allowed to return home, (probably because they would have killed him if he did) this meant he had no more access to others of his species to drain their stretchy powers to extent his life. Therefore warren decided to visit other worlds and create offspring with stretchy powers he could later steal. I think its not a bad theory, what do you think?

I like that this episode isn’t a life changing event for Jake It was cathartic to see Jake overcome this obstacle easily and I like that he had already grown internally beforehand

maybe jake's dad really is on a higher plane of existence now (4d). Just like Finn's dad is. that would be a neat little connection between the two

I kinda like the episode. This is the end. This isnt about raising new philosophical ideas or existential crises. This is about wrapping up loose ends, weve had world and character building, now its time to nicely tie eberything together

Ampersand as in”&” looks like him stretching

If this episode had come earlier in the series it would have opened up so many possibilities, as it stands it feels like a quick attempt to the up loose plot threads. Does this mean Jake is younger?

Then again Jake was totally fine with his death in BANNANNA Man

I think that he didn't change as a character coz he was already comfortable with himself. He knew who he was. Meeting a parent and it being anticlimactic after so long can be boring like this coz you didn't need them in your life to become the great person you are now so you don't need them now. Ya know?

I'd like to argue for the grass sword on the elder god thing. The grass swords curse is derived from the emissary from beyond. An emissary is admittedly no high rank of something being "from beyond" but it's clearly posing an eldritch high ranking force compared to many in the series. Beyond slash?

I don't like how they're rushing to the end of this a lot of these answers with getting seem unearned and a little open ended

The way I saw this episode was a summary of jake character development through out the series seeing as this may be the last jake focus episode, like you brought it up we saw jake caring about his kids, being easygoing and being comfortable with who he is and I think the reason why Warren is so flat is because he was not important in the long run just a way to explain how jake got his power and to warp up his character arc before the end of the show.

I never really wondered about Jake's powers. He was always just magic. Stuff like that happens. No stranger than other aspects of the show.

I notice that with these last few episodes, while you were holding out for new info and heavy plotlines, the creators seem to be focusing on classic adventure time themes and ideas. Blenanas really stood out to me as a very classic adventure time episode for example. This war might be a big deal, but I think the creators were intentionally keeping the rest tame and similar to the old adventure time.

16:54 “I’m going 4D baby” is such a Robin Williams line read, great work on the voice actors part

My pups are worth it. Greatest hip dad ever. Love you're video's keep it up man 🙌

I think we can all agree that Jake's character Arc has been a mix of bizarre and interesting as of late

While I also felt that the episode was a little rushed and disjointed I also have to say I was fine with Jake being cool with everything and not growing. I felt that unlike Finn who needed to know his origins and was always reaching for his Dad and his place Jake has always grown up seeing his parents and his sibling who looks like him. Another person looking like him is no big deal. Also Charlie does expand herself Daddy-Daughter card wars, don't know if that is the same as stretching, but she does expand.

Personally I see this episode as an episode of closure. To reassure stuff we already know and not leaving doubt. I like that he was able to come to terms with his origin and shape before meeting the awful dad.

This episode is kinda like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

Better then samurai jack ending

Theory: Ixcano is one of the primal monsters before time and his OP ability is to stretch to a ridiculous degree that diminishes with every new spawn, thus explaining why all the pups and future dogs have strange anomalous abilities

How'd he get the cake! How'd he get the sausages in space!!! Is there a space restaurant!!! Those are the real questions!!!!

I think this show made everyone want everything to be super fantastical, but I think this is probably more accurate to how adopted kids might be meeting their bio parents and realizing they’re not all you imagined. Love you analysis and it’s making me want to rewatch AT for a 3 rd time since it’s been off air

I loved this episode. I think it really does resonate with people whose family are never there until they need something. When Warren Amprisand said "I low-key affection you son", it really hit me hard

If only Jake The Starchild was in the style of a Season 6 episode. Character growth, metaphors, thematics, etc. If only Jesse Moynihan had storyboarded this episode.

I feel like it's interesting that by the time the absent father figure deigns to show up, Jake has already managed to complete his personal journey with flying colors. He didn't really need anyone to do it and that's awesome, he didn't even need the guy to show up to realize he didn't need him. That's not only awesome, it's good trope subversion imo, even if the resulting episode when Warren shows up turns out flat as a result.

This wasn't my favorite out of the bunch, but I'm going to defend it on a few counts. For all those saying they copied the plot of Guardians of the Galaxy 2, script writing for this season was finished on November 28, 2016, a full five months before the premiere of Guardians of the Galaxy 2 on May 5th, 2017. The resemblance between the two is purely coincidental. Secondly, for those disappointed by the anticlimax after "all the buildup", I would counter that there really wasn't all that much buildup. Not counting "The First Investigation," the Shapeshifter had featured in all of 2 episodes. It wasn't really a grand season spanning plot-line, it was simply a thing that happened and we had to wait a while to see what that was all about. It was always a minor plot point at best. And, like Elk mentioned, the climax of this plot point already happened in "Abstract". This was just one last episode to tie off the thread. I think the main thing that ails this episode is that everyone built it up in their heads as this grand epic when it was never intended to be.

I feel in a way that it's meant to be a reversal of the other climactic facing of parental figures throughout adventure time. You have the terrible but tragic parentage of Martin, the complicated relationship of Hunson and Marcy, PB's struggle with her family ties, and now Jake's demonstration of the ability to move beyond bloodline obligation, focusing instead on emotional bonds.

All of this shows THAT JOSHUA AND MARGRET ARE GOATS They raised finn regardless of his origins Raised Jake despite him being an alien

I think you guys are just expecting the episode to be "profound" , epic, or something deep and meaningful, when in truth you can't always have that kind of thing and sometimes people/aliens in the show do things only for stupid or shallow reasons and that guy is no exception

I think this episode is more about how the bonds you form with people through your life whether they're family or not are so much stronger than just the bonds of blood and being family

I think Jake is gonna become planet at some point in finale,because remembered that one of Jake wish his face on the moon

Did anyone else get flashbacks to the episode "Everything's Jake"?

I think the point of the episode was to show that Jake had dealt with his inner conflict and grown into his identity. Like many kids with a distant or completely absent father, Jake transposed them into every personal problem. The point of the episode was different from Finn's inner struggle in "Comet", which shows Finn accepting who his father is and the loss of him. "Starchild" focuses on Jake ALREADY accepting that Ampersand is not his father and that he truly defines nothing about Jake, despite giving him his form and power. He gives Ampersand a chance because of the truly giving and kind creature he is, but once Ampersand betrays him he isn't really all that let down. The true meaning of the episode comes when Jake sacrifices himself to protect his children, which draws a direct comparison to Ampersand killing his children for his own benefit. I see what you mean, but I felt like the real conclusion of Jake's character development involving his alien origin was in "Abstract". While it did lack the deeper introspection that adventure time usual gives us, I think "starchild" was a satisfying conclusion with a touching message about love and fatherhood.

11:46 black hole or…worm hole? Hmmm?!?!?

Faaaiiirly certain we haven't seen the last of Warren Ampersand. He went into "4D" which could mean any number of things with his alien stretchy powers, but who knows what these next few episodes will show. I'm more excited to hear your thoughts on Gumbaldia, Elk, because it was kinda strange to me as an episode. I liked how it was foreshadowed a little bit when PB was doing her wartime drill of her kingdom a few episodes prior, but it seems really quick and abrupt. I think AT would have benefitted plot-wise from just one more season, however I feel the decision to end AT was made somewhere around the end of season 8, so they probably thought they could wrap it all up in 2 seasons pretty evenly. After all, you don't want your amazing, well-known cartoon ending at a weird number of seasons or else it will look like it was cancelled to the outside observer and not just ended neatly. By the way, since AT is ending soon, it would be awesome if you started reviewing some of the older episodes. Not really old-old episodes because those have very little over-arching plot and were more akin to Spongebob in what they wanted to achieve as a cartoon, but maybe some of the newer-older episodes. I think one of the most underrated episodes in the series is "Everything Jake" where Magic Man constructs an entire city inside of Jake made out of his stretchiness that he has to navigate. It's a really interesting episode thematically, and it has a low-key reference to Cthulhu in it (this is gonna sound weird if you don't know anything about Cthulhu, but hear me out). In HP Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos, the whole theme is man's cosmic insignificance. In that world, people literally go insane looking at elder gods like Cthulhu because our minds can't comprehend them. It's like an ant trying to wrap its head around the Cold War. In "Everything Jake," as you may recall, a scientist discovers the reason for the earthquakes in their city is that Jake is hungry and needs real food not made of his stomach, so he imprisons Jake (because if Jake leaves their whole city is destroyed) and goes outside of Jake's tummy to try to find food for Jake. True to HP Lovecraft's form, he goes outside of Jake's tummy and sees a movie playing. He thinks that the characters in the movie are gods and starts asking them for food, not realizing that they are not real because he simply can't comprehend the outside world. Then, Finn stands up and looks at him, chewing a bunch of noodles that are hanging out of his mouth. This is a reference to Cthulhu's tentacles. This is further solidified because the scientist sees Finn and is so repulsed he goes insane and literally melts into Jake's stomach, dying. I only noticed this hidden easter egg on my second watch because I'm a big Lovecraft nerd :p Anyway, you should definitely visit some of these older gems of episodes. Also, on a more personal note, did you think Magic Man was an excellent character that got knocked off way too early? I thought he might live again with Betty, but she just kinda stopped being insane in the new Mars episode and it was kind of a let down. But, I digress.

I wish the theme of growing older and transitioning to death was explored. I mean having Jake being almost complete was a difficult position to add backstory. His bio dad tried to avoid death by doing this, that fear also lives in Jake

I just caught up to the end of Adventure Time and I'm so glad I found this review. I felt similarly about the Warren Ampersand episode, but I didn't really take time to analyze why before going on to the next. This helps clarify everything.

Thank you for yet another amazing review. It's not only your analysis that's impressive, but also how skilfully you manage to structure and verbalize it.

Can't wait for the next review

I was mainly just taken aback that warren no longer looked like an animalistic creature and more chill.

The part about whether warren was the only one of his kind, yes! I wondered the same thing. It would've been really cool to see Jake encounter other shapeshifters like him just as BMO did in BMO lost, or maybe come across and accept the realization that he's the last of his kind or maybe some other realization scenario like his father visiting the alien or vice versa after Jake was born.

Warran's entire design changes drasticallythroughout the episode fitting for a shapeshifter. I enjoy that touch.

One could say it follow adventure time formula but since it near the end of the series that feel bit lacking of a excuse but the episode was enjoyable either way standalone

Jakes situation in this episode, reminds me if that Coraline movie. So similar how both Jake & Coraline are brought to this world that praises them, only to be used in some sacrificial way that beneficial the parental figure that lured them there.

"Come Along With Me" is an upcoming episode in the tenth season of Adventure Time. It'll be the final episode of Season 10 and the series.

I completely agree with everything you said. There was almost nothing of value in this episode: the plot was pretty standard, most of the humour fell flat for me and there was no characterization of anyone. The idea could've been executed better and I really love the foreshadowing they did for this concept but as you said all that hype was kinda wasted as the episode was lacking in substance. To its credit, I did enjoy it more on my second watch because the rushed pacing made Warren's plan feel as if it wasn't properly thought out and just thrown together, which keeps in line with his goofy personality but due to the fact that Warren's character wasn't interesting to me, I still didn't really enjoy it that much. Plus this plan doesn't seem like it would work on anyone besides Jake due to how relaxed he is about everything. Makes me wonder how the other candidates fell for it; did they have similar personalities to Jake or were they just Banana Guard levels of stupidity. As Elk mentioned the change in Warren's character seemed pretty contrived and honestly just felt like a plot convenience. I was actually confused when I watched it the first time round, I thought I had missed something. One thing I liked about this episode was when Jake was asked to stretch in the door he was finding it difficult even though we've seen him stretch further than that before. That was a nice subtle hint that something was wrong but it pretty much goes to waste since most of the hints were so obvious. Also this was literally just the plot of Guardians of the Galaxy 2. I'm curious to know if that inspired this whole story arc in any way, or if they had this idea from when we first saw Warren in "Joshua and Margaret Investigations"

I just hope the finale is good I’m always gonna miss this masterpiece when it finally concludes I hope it goes out with a bang :)

I have been waiting for this

I feel like Jake's attitude towards most situations is like any other dog which is "live in the moment" while also being able to sense his loved ones emotions and offer his advice on handling issues. I feel like dogs don't have any regrets and are only motivated by the present and while they can't speak they'll always comfort their "owners" in times of stress.

I know I'm late but I can't help noticing that Martin's appearance is very similar to the Older cartoon version of Robotnik with a similar body type, baldness, and his outfit itself being pretty close in color and shape

Can't wait for your 'Temple of Mars' review! Can't wait to hear what you think The Ice Thing means.

So I really like this episode. I’m an adopted child with shitty biological parents. So I can appreciate this episode of Jake not having any growth. He’s not here for self discovery, it seems to be more curiosity to me, and here’s why I like that. I don’t remember my biological parents. I’ve known some stuff about them, but not much. All I know is they were bad people who did things to me that wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy, and that my adoptive family are my biological aunt and uncle. If they randomly showed up, I wouldn’t have a reaction like Jake, I’d be less willing to leave. Even then, Jake found his sense of identity outside of his family like I did mine. Jake doesn’t really need character development when he’s already found who he is and I honestly like having an episode of something that would normally be big, but not so much now because Jake knows who he is

I think that vagueness was intentional. Meant to represent the vague uncertain nature of Jakes reunion. Only getting the bullet points on what happened never the full picture

I too was dissatisfied with the whole "Jake the Starlord" story, but mostly because Warren dies... I mean maybe if he lived and we had some hope of a further story, or maybe even a hint that Jakey has a sibling out there... just something. Anything. I dunno, the episode just felt a bit hollow to me.

i was thinking. Martin was "desintegrated" to reform in another dimention, right? and now Warren "has GONE 4D"... what if then both end up meeting in uncomprehencible dimentions, and manage to come back, close to the end of the series maybe to aid against golb? maybe not, i dont know.

I came just to say that there's a guy called "FinnHDA" stealing your content, and not only yours, he has been stealing content from various AT youtubers

The false blue planet actually reminded me a lot of Alan Moore's The Saga of Swamp Thing (which I highly recommend). I actually don't think the pacing was that bad, but I do agree that if all those scenes were cut out (beginning and mirror scene) I think there could have been more interesting developments between Jake and Warren Maybe if it delved into why Warren does what he does or something it would have been more interesting. Idk. He was just such a basic character.

I love this episode because it juxtaposes how he dealt with his biological dad vs. how Finn did. Jake knows his identity and understands his priorities, Finn was unsure how he felt and needed the past conection.

Y'know, there's kinda an obscure theme running through Adventure time, and that is: Bad Dad(s). Like, all of them are bad. I'd say Jake is arguably not that good of a father, either, considering the fact he has been absent for a lot of their lives. Hunson, Flame King, Marty, Warren. Why are Daddy Issues a running theme...

I think the problem with jake is just like the Steven universe episode where one of the Ruby's comes back to earth and lapis has a melt down trying to find things that bother the ruby. It's that internal struggle that we crave when we create characters for stories or read books we marvel at the journey it takes for them to become a better person. When you introduce someone who is just fine with everything and is content people tend to hate those kinds of characters because we believe the world is meant to make or break you. In reality there are tons of people who are just fine with their current situation. "Why is it so easy for her, when it was so hard for me" - lapis lazuli I guess it's almost like an insult to everything you are as a person to see someone who just is fine with everything and makes you feel flawed. Your entire journey and all your problems just don't matter as much. I'm generally fine with everything but thru experience so I get it.

Intrestingly even though the show has been on for so long I still feel like its ending too soon no not just in a ill miss it way I mean storytelling wiseThe show at the announcment of its end had atleast 10 things that could form entire arcs(the lich,magic betty,jaes parents,Martin,humans, golb so on and so forth I mean gravity falls end also felt rushed but that was just two seasons this has gone one for like 8 years

Adventure Time seems to have a love for fathers who use their kids and don't care about their happiness, but their own.

I will not hide that this was a bit lack lustre regarding all the build up however I personally take this episode in the opposite direction. We have already seen Jake literally come to terms with everything regarding his prior existence and existential crisis, and his journey came to the 99% mark a long time before warren ever showed his ugly mouth. Jake already came full circle on his birth, his childhood, his powers, and aside from knowing who biologically threw him into this world he was already done all of his journey. The fact Jake acts so nonchalant regarding Warren’s explanations was just the “huh okay” moment to tie his origin biologically together, nothing was going to reverse or change the rest of his journey from before this. Hell, Jake going full “my pups are worth it” sacrifice with zero second thought only doubles into the fact Warren wasn’t having the slightest impact on the overall outcome that is Jake the dog, zero chance for manipulation and zero chance to survive from that point forwards. Idk I personally wanted a bigger bang but what we got was pretty awesome.

I understand the frustration in having the alien backstory bulit up then fall short but I think it being lackluster has to do with the contrast between Jake and Finn's character development in discovering their origins. Finn needed to discover where he came from for his growth but Jake did it without that and just looked within himself. Both senarios mirror real life when adopted adults try to find their birth partents, since both Jake and Finn are technically adopted it makes the contrast make even more sense. Showing how you can find peace through finding and learning your origin, Finn finding the humans, and on the opposite end Jake finds peace with his origins by deciding it doesn't matter because he knows who he is, which is a reality people who are adopted may have to face. Jake finding peace without meeting Warren I believe is very significant and powerful especially with the way Finn finding his origins gave him a similar peace to him as well. I think this episode was to satisfy all the build up and plans they had for Warren and Jake's origins but because they decided for Jake have his defining moment before them meeting is part of why this episode failed.

Random? but I just thought something...Is the freaking catalyst comet singing "Come Along With Me?" if so, does that mean Finn really ends up ascending to a new mode of existence? I wonder what makes him do that, if I'm right.

three years late, but if I were to have my own thoughts on this episode, I'd say warren ampersand's name might have thematic clues. not sure if this makes the episode better, but maybe he's not supposed to be a perfectly satisfying conclusion. his name is basically "warren and" ...it's an unfinished sentence. Oh and also that fits in with him being literally nothing without his progeny, which is ironic because this episode highlights how his is a lonely species. He makes the illusion of a planet full of his kind, but they're just an illusion. without letting his kids grow up and have their own kids, he's just this one lone guy in an endless cycle. It doesn't seem like a natural process either, given he uses the belts to make it happen. Given adventure time's themes of subtle growth and change over time, the wheel of time itself, and of the importance of successors, I'm reminded of how Jake and Lady having just a few pups leads to an entire society of them a thousand years from now, while Jake himself seems long forgotten. Without letting his progeny grow up and spread out and improve past Warren and his flaws, he remains this undercooked start to a species that never got off the ground, in stark contrast to the pups. Actually, this got me thinking about other immortal or long-living characters in AT. I thought about how princess bubblegum has such a level of control over her successors, the candy people, that they can't grow and change past her influence. They're always under her thumb and even deliberately made to be too simple to challenge her rule or even her beliefs. She's sort of similar to Warren in that way. Candy people as a species will only properly be able to thrive when they can grow past the sphere of influence of their monarch. For now, they're a dead end of a species that can only grow as much as PB does.

Your episode analysis are always so detailed and interesting!! keep it up man!!

I think that the reason there's no deep plot points or character advancement or anything like that is like Jake said "I ain't nobody's son but Joshua and Margaret." By this point Warren really didn't matter, and I think that was the point they were making, that he really doesn't matter at all.

I actually liked the premise of Jake’s dad being evil, but I liked his more alien-like appearances in prior episodes. It’s that mystery and grittiness I miss in these newer episodes, and I’m getting more and more disappointed with how the creators are pumping it out. I was hoping he’d be way more evil and selfish, and like said more alien.

Maybe ampersand chose Joshua because dogs are loyal. Dogs will always show loyalty to the ones they love and will never betray.ampersand knew if he gave strong powers just to any living being it could mean disaster for his fate when he came back for his son and instead got a crazed being with strong powers. Just a theory

I just realized Marceline calls herself the “Star Child” in the timeline where Simon never survived long enough to meet and raise Marceline

I'm looking forward to watching your analysis/review on the other two episodes.

As always, it's no news that your review represents me perfectly. As you said on the last one, this whole episode could have been SO much better if it was a two parter. This of all things DESERVED to be a two parter. Jake's stretchy abilities it's been teased since WAY back. It deserved more attention to it's conclusion than basically 11 minutes to wrap things up. It wasn't a bad episode, but it could, should and would be a lot better if the ending of the series wasn't being so abrupt. Adventure Time once again showing that it NEEDED one last season to avoid unsatiafying conclusions. I just hope 'Come Along With Me' doesn't follow the same path tho. If it does, i'm going to cry of rage... buuut to be fair, whatever ending it has is going to make me cry anyway, so... yeah... I miss the show already.

Woah, just had a thought, what if after martin ascended to a new plane of existence, he became warren. He kinda looks like the comet, its the kind of thing martin would do, and that would mean finn and jake arre actually brothers

I liked Warren's old design. The five eye with the five way mouth. It makes him look more unique.

I felt like this episode was kind of lazy and anticlimactic