Your experiment assumes that the central question of this product is how does this retention pulley compare to not using any pulley or snatch block. Single line is faster. That is analogous to telling us that your truck is faster in high gear range than in low gear range. This product is designed to replace a snatch block, so perhaps a more useful comparison is comparing this rope retention pulley to a traditional snatch block. How much does this weigh compared to a snatch block? How fast is it compared to snatch block? How much heat increase is there on the ring before and after and how does this have compare to heat increase on a snatch block? Does it make sense to use this instead of a snatch block?

In theory, 2:1 will take 2x the time, but since the winch works less, you save some time. Strain on the rope and current draw is the only way to test, with acknowledgement that the rates will constantly move as there are more windings on the drum. Winch line diameter and stretch will play a role too.

I've used it extensively. It does not generate excessive heat as long as you retain the proper recovery speed as mentioned earlier in the video. There is as much heat and friction on the winch spool during recovery as in the Factor55 pulley. Perhaps we're looking for an issue that's not here. What I will say is using this tool with Factor55 rated soft shackles and the proper recovery strap is FAR safer than any alternative. Closed-loop winching is worth the investment. They also, like all their other gear, have extensive rating and testing docs available to anyone.

Bear in mind you have twice the amount of line out so your retrieval will be less. For the fact that the more line on your spool the faster rate of retrieval will be. Nevertheless as much as I will actually use this product, I will take over a snatch block and it has a pretty good cool factor to it as well.

Did you notice the factor 55 recovery ring wasn't even rotating. It has the smallest working diameter in the industry resulting in the winch line dragging through the recovery ring. Larger diameter aluminum recovery rings actually rotate and are much more efficient.

I have a couple giant 8" diameter rusty snatch blocks, that had to be 40 years old when I got them ... and I've been using them for 40 years for everything from self recovery, to loading scrap iron, to a barn rasing :) I can't imagne I paid more than $5 for the pair. I'm going to stick with them :)

Technically the pulley did win because twice the rope and not twice the time so winch was going faster. And pulley wasn’t turning because it was hardly under tension!

Good product demo! Only thought on one thing said, the bubba rope not being a good ss due to the rubber sleeve, cant you just cut it off? It would work fine then right? Nice product from a good company!

This 'experiment' seems to ignore that the winch being run out twice as far will have a different mechanical advantage due to the turns on the winch drum - as for the positioning of the Air damper - this needs to be placed nearer the tree - if the treesaver strap broke the winch line and metal hook would fly back to the vehicle with no arresting being applied! As for excessive heat generated by the Factor55 Block under load? with that snail's pace of winching- REALLY?

Rematch! with twice the rope out you were also likely an extra layer or two down in the winch cable which will also make it slower. If you were pulling a much larger load and the winch was working hard (slower line speed) then the line speed would have been faster when there was less load but as you say, twice the cable to pull in as well. I would expect the double line pull to be slower, probably not twice as slow. In the end this was your result. Why wasn't the pulley rotating in the test? So much for the super teflon coating. Thanks for the video.

Hey Guys, thatnks for the check. Can you check the pulley and rope temperature with an infrared camera? Thet would show how much it really heats up and if it may become too much. In additon, I think the rope is bended troo much putting much more stress on some outer fibers and that is never good, as a reduced number of fibtres need to take all the load.

I’m gonna guess neither of these guys studied physics in college

Synthetic and a cable jacket?

“ Unless you have a time restraint while winching.” Good grief !! - I am always in a frantic hurry to get out when winching, to get back to my donuts and Starbucks. The factor 55 does not pinch at all. You guys present this like a soap opera. It totally spoils the review. Sorry.

Is this out by cowtown

Strange as everything I'm seeing about the retention pulley says it should be turning. I wonder why yours didn't?

This is a mickey mouse review. Plain and simple. Plus, as far as I can tell, you haven't made a follow up review on points that matter in a recovery, as pointed out by David Lohrentz.

Hello you two... Do yourselves, and your viewers a huge favor and remove the link to the video by "Lock Your Hubs 4WDing." IMHO that video does NOT provide enough data set to accurately examine all the parameters of what's going on with a standard split-leg pulley vs. a Factor 55 Rope Retention Pulley. HERE'S the video you want to link to so your viewers have ALL the necessary data for an informed purchasing decision: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o59-eKyQsLybj5c.html Now a couple of notes... 1) Your "experiment" actually had nothing to do with the Factor 55 RR Pulley. You simply demonstrated some physics principles relative to winching. 2) Careful with emphatic "do not use" or "never" or "aways" statements. Yes, there are a few (very few) "nevers" in recovery (e.g. NEVER use a tow hitch ball as a frame-mounted recovery point for a kinetic energy recovery rope pull). However, in recovery - in real life - I always tell my students "What Works is What Counts." That Bubba Rope Gator Jaw CAN work with the RR Pulley - if you align the pulley properly on the soft shackle it would NOT be on the plastic label. 3) The Factor 55 RR Pulley works well for re-direct and adding mechanical advantage. Note: You don't get something for nothing in physics... So, a double line pull gives you 2:1 mechanical advantage (which is really great for most recoveries), but you need to pull double the amount of line for the same distance as a single line pull, and it will take twice as long. Lots more to cover here... but I'm willing to send you my book "The Total Approach to Getting Unstuck Off-Road - Self-Recovery & Vehicle-Assisted Recovery." Once you read the book, give it a review on your channel. Give me your address via email and a book will be sent. You can get my address at DiscoverOffRoading.com. Cheers guys.

The whole point of a snatch block is to double the pulling power, which is not even mentioned. Would have been nice to have a heat gun to check the temp since that was actually their main concern, no I will not subscribe to your vids, such a disservice for the product and no I don’t own one, yet!

Once again your adding a piece of equipment to a system that is not needed. Less is best.

This felt like listening to my mom telling me about computers. In both case, knowledge and experience is lacking. I'm sorry but you should deleted this video and try to "recover" some credibility.