Lowering the Yamaha Tenere 700 center of gravity.

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Күн бұрын

In putting together the crash protection plan for my 2022 Yamaha Tenere 700 I considered whether or not it was possible to lower the center of gravity on this bike changing the balance and the feel. By installing Hepco and Becker lower crash bars in conjunction with the Outback Motortek skid plate I was able to develop a crash protection system that keeps the weight low. In addition to the low crash protection system I further added crash bar bags holding my tool kit and my puncture repair further lowering the center of gravity and keeping weight on the bike low and forward. The lower crash bars kind of look like the boxer engine cylinders found on the BMW which make it easy to pick up after a drop.
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@kipper2942 3 күн бұрын

Great bars. I’ve found when crashing in the bush with crash bars, most of the time the rear brake and gear shift levers get damaged. I’ve even broken the shaft that the gear lever attaches to, and damaged engine casing, big problem in the bush. My priorities for the next set, must protect brake and gear levers and engine cases + essential items. Plastics are cosmetic I’d rather be able to get home with a few scraps, than be stuck out bush. Cheers riders 😊

@advmatt Күн бұрын

Totally agree with you.

@olliechristopher467 9 ай бұрын

Your bike is really coming along Matt!!

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

Working on it. Lots more to come.

@OneOldManRiding 9 ай бұрын

Its no 390 Adventure Ollie! 😀- Frank

@bacbladerunner 9 ай бұрын

Those look like a great option. I'm not a fan of the giant, full coverage bars either. And, I really appreciate your 5-10 minute vids. I just don't have time for longer ones.

@OneOldManRiding 9 ай бұрын

Right? I have found myself skipping videos that are over ten minutes. - Frank

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback on the video length. I often don't watch videos that exceed that frame. It's good to know this length is just about right.

@OneOldManRiding 9 ай бұрын

@@advmatt I broke this "rule" for my Nova Scotia trip, but that was due to wanting to cover one day of the trip per video, and I failed to edit them well enough. Never again! - Frank

@ChooseBrian 9 ай бұрын

2021 Tenere 700. 18k miles. Tons off off road. I use outback crashbars. My experience is they work great. When I was newer at this, I dumped the bike a ton on the COBDR and the bars took a beating but not the bike. I too carry those pouches. The reason I like my higher bars is that I like my auxiliary lights mounted there, and also trust me when I tell you, those small little bags are going to get destroyed where you have them. Heck, they get a little bit banged up even up on the higher bars too. It all comes down to preference. I think you are totally going to enjoy this bike more than you think. I do think it’s the perfect tool, and one of the things that I have done since getting the bike is only running a rear rack, using the Mosko, reckless luggage, and ditching my hard Mosko pannier racks and bags, and getting a high exhaust from camel ADV. This really thinned out the profile of the bike and makes it ride fantastic when traveling with luggage, looking forward to all of the updates, Matt keep busting ass and having fun.

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your sharing your setup. I do expect those bags to get thrashed. Thankfully I got them cheap. I am going to ease into offroad riding on this bike. It will get more work as a sport tourer for awhile, but I have spoken to many happy T7 riders like yourself.

@BlazinBlades 9 ай бұрын

Looks fantastic! I am using the Givi mid bars (video on the channel) which also can take those bags but are a bit higher. My concern with lower crash bars was that some do end up bending into the engine cases and causing more damage than just the plastics. These look quite sturdy though. A center stand is another way to further lower the bike’s COG which I am considering. Cheers 🍻🍻

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

I will take a look at your video on the mid crash bars. Some of the crash bars I looked at only clamped to that engine wrapping frame bar. That didn't not seem sturdy enough to me. We will see how these go.

@XadJack 7 ай бұрын

great vid! Exactly what I was looking for. Have you had to put into practice picking it up with the bars / bags added? Can’t tell if it’d make it easier but stopping a fully horizontal tip, OR if it’d make it go beyond horizontal and pivot on the bars / bags so the wheels end up more in the air! I’m planning to get a T7 in spring and being 5’8 low centre of gravity and pick-up-ability are fairly high on my list of concerns!

@advmatt 7 ай бұрын

I did drop the bike once, it was a stupid drop. The bike rested on the crash bars/bags, and it popped right up. After owning a BMW R1200GS I find this bike much easier to pick up even though it falls more flat. I have the factory lower seat and love it. I don't have enough miles on it to do a review, but we'll worth the price, it's comfortable and low enough to make it easy to get my feet down.

@monkeybuttadventure2 9 ай бұрын

I use The OEM and Are happy, they do The job for me It is solid, mounts where it should, protect engine and radiator which is my concern

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

Makes sense. Your setup seems solid. Thanks for sharing what you are doing.

@PiperLund 2 ай бұрын

I'm considering buying a Tenere 700 and have fallen into the rabbithole of researching everything about the bike. The salesman that has given me an offer wanted to include the crashbar from Yamaha, but my concern was the same as yours. Adding weight high up and really obly protecting plastic that should be easily changed. Those crashbars look nice. Hope they hold hold up as well. Nice video!

@advmatt 2 ай бұрын

I can say that I ha e dropped the bike a few tines offroad and they did their job.

@Riezig 2 ай бұрын

The yamaha bars are decent. They do add weight. I can vouge and say they do the job. The T7 will handle better without them at the risk of having no protection.

@ralphstavermann7253 9 ай бұрын

Camel ADV has upper fairings that have more flex .

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

Good to know.

@OneOldManRiding 9 ай бұрын

@@advmatt Sponsorship opportunity! OK I will leave you comment section and get back to work now... - Frank

@sipeb7543 9 ай бұрын

I like the bags on the crash bars. What make are they? Thanks.

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

I have Giant Loop possibilities bags but there are many other companies that make little bags like this. Nelson Rigg has some.

@MajomHus 5 ай бұрын

The high crash bars not only protect the plastic, which is cheap to replace, but the radiator as well.

@advmatt 5 ай бұрын

I have observed many riders on this bike without the high crashbars dropping their bikes very frequently, sometimes at speed. The bike comes through it without any issues. The Swedish Nomad channel is a great example. I am not convinced upper crash bars are necessary. Between Acebris handguards and the lower crashbars I think I am good.

@MajomHus 5 ай бұрын

@@advmatt I had an encounter with a car yesterday. Without the crash bar the top part of the plastics would have been gone and the radiator as well. I helps in very specific hits, not useful for falls, but for crashes. Crashbar took the damage, the bike is fine apart from the front fork plastic that is in pieces.

@advmatt 5 ай бұрын

@@MajomHus hope you came out okay. That sounds bad. I get where you are coming from.

@MajomHus 5 ай бұрын

@@advmatt Doing great, had bigger falls on dirt, no injury at all. Fully agree to keep the weight down as well. I would say as little protection as possible if riding close to home, and as much as is needed if riding far.

@stevesutherland2990 8 ай бұрын

Show us how to check valve clearance on the KTK 390 adventure, please.

@advmatt 8 ай бұрын

Planning on it after all the demand.

@OneOldManRiding 9 ай бұрын

They look good. I also do not care for the look of high bars. That said... I have ridden with a guy who broke his upper fairing while riding with me, and ridden with two guys who had upper fairing damage. The material seems like it may be a bit brittle. - Frank

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

It is possible to take damage, but as I see this bike more as a sport touring bike than an adventure offroad bike I hope to never test this out.

@williamb.6918 9 ай бұрын

I am curious if your friends that sustained upper fairing damage had stout handguards (I typically run the HDBs). KTM proved out the lower crash bar only solution with the 1090/1190 pretty well. Mine was down many many times without any upper protection, nor did I tend to see others that had installed upper crash bars (and some of those riders were absolutely brutal on their bikes).

@OneOldManRiding 9 ай бұрын

@@williamb.6918He had handguards and lowers. We were in rutted two Track in Tenessee. There was nearly always some earth or rock hitting the side of our bikes when we went down. Not flat at all. Happy to report that my 390 Adventure only suffered scuffs! KTM or Bajaj uses a very flexible plastic that gives and rebounds. I noticed the same thing when laying my 790 down. - Frank

@williamb.6918 9 ай бұрын

That reminds me, I just saw Camel ADV is having flexible side panels made for the Tenere now. @@OneOldManRiding

@OneOldManRiding 9 ай бұрын

@@williamb.6918 Hello Willaim, that's BRILLIANT! I know the shiny smooth look of street plastics looks great, but its asking for problems on an off-road bike. - Frank

@MLeitao 9 ай бұрын

I had the Puig ones, if it was today i had bought the sw motech, i also don't like the big ones, and this is a mather of luck, you could have the best and a rock could hit the fairings, i understand your pov but i don't like the lower ones, and in some trouble you could get your feet stuck.

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

You're right it is possible to get my feet stuck with the lower bars. I will see how it goes. I seriously considered the SW-Motech.

@briangc1972 9 ай бұрын

Lowering the center of gravity is only possible by removing weight up top or adding weight down low. Since there is nothing up top that is removable, that only leaves adding weight. I'm all for buying the best bash plate and armor (I'm in Az, our trails are like your rocky NMBDR on steroids) but adding more weight just makes a already fat pig more of a fat pig. Slower and heavier on the trails. The KTM390 ADV gets away with it because of the lower seat height. But the T7 would need lowering links and the suspension is already iffy at best I stock form. You may need to consider a custom shock and new valves in the forks to help the handling.

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

I agree. Since I will already be carrying a robust tool kit the weight has to go somewhere. I don't expect to do all that much offroad on this bike since I have the 390 Adv. I plan to use the T7 for more sport touring type riding and the occasional gravel road. Certainly nothing like I have done on my 390 Adv. It definitely needs suspension work to feel the way I like a bike to feel.

@briangc1972 9 ай бұрын

@@advmatt Funny, I travel light. I trust my Taureg so I don't carry a bunch of tools. Factory tool kit and tire repair kit. You bought the T7 for it's reported dependability and feel it necessary to carry a bunch of iron in your bags. 😉

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

@@briangc1972 it doesn't matter which bike I am riding I always carry a robust tool kit. I have used my tools to help others out more than myself but when I am in remote areas I want to be able to take care of problems that come up. Most problems come from the aftermarket parts. Crashing tends to mess things up too. I am not immune to taking dirt naps.

@DanielByersCycleSouth 9 ай бұрын

Get Safari’s new 40+ L fuel tank. It’s all held down low. That’ll get the CG way down

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

I will take a look at it. That would really help.

@DanielByersCycleSouth 9 ай бұрын

@@advmattmake sure you’re looking at their new 45 liter tank, not the smaller T7 one they make

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

@@DanielByersCycleSouth I looked at it. The low slung fuel tank looks pretty amazing. No pricing yet, should be released anyday now.

@OneOldManRiding 9 ай бұрын

Trying to lower the weight on a Tenere that's unattainable. 😁 - Frank

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

Maybe so, but every little bit helps, I think..... or not with this bike.

@OneOldManRiding 9 ай бұрын

@@advmattI kid, but I will say, I think I have ridden every bike in the "middleweight" class, and none, not even the KLR650 felt as top heavy as the Tenere. Surprisingly, the factory lowered model was significantly less top heavy to me. More of a change than I expected 1" to be. - Frank

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

@@OneOldManRiding I knew this would be part of the so called character of the bike. No offense taken. I am evaluating how I will ride this bike. More sport touring for sure, especially while the 390 Adv is in pieces.

@bradb2514 9 ай бұрын

Nice little bags for the tool/tire kit. Where did you source them? I picked up a Norden 901 as a smaller mate to my 1250GS. I decided to skip any upper bars on that bike just to keep weight off the bike. I’m really trying to be minimalist with the Norden. No crash bars, rackless bags, etc. It’s so easy to over do it with all the kit we see advertised everywhere.

@advmatt 9 ай бұрын

@@bradb2514 these are the Giant Loop possibility bags. I picked them last winter ar 50% off or $25 a bag. Several companies make bags like this, Nelson Rigg has their own version plus others.