Martmns why tjhe instead of the

...but not safe. Read about the plane crash in the Kabaty forest in Poland.

In Poland they have opinions „flying coffins”

Only two crashes in so many flies and so many years: the one in Poland and the one in Havana. Impresive. This plane has one of the best safety record in the world.

The Russia VC10

Dick Dalechev

Like alt.country

I'm not going to lie. This is what keeps me coming back. Think the song at the end is a Polish song by Czerwony Giatry. Heard it a few weeks ago and instantly recognize it.

@@LOTIL62 Piękna piosenka

@@orangetimeexpress1221 the two commmercials are from air koryo

@@orangetimeexpress1221 i know

That would be Oleg and his boys from Minsk.

MrShobar Really? They're known?

The Red Elvises!

Who made the song and what song is it

More like "Ugly death trap"

I flew on an İL 62 from Bucharest to İstanbul in Feb. 1976. It was a comfortanle Journey. I kind of liked that craft when it was the 70s.

Nice to see an open minded American who doesn’t blindly praise anything just because it is American! Cheers from Canada bru! 🍻

@@harrisn3693: Thank-you so much for the beer and your gracious reply. Personally, I really enjoy spending time viewing plane-spotting videos that are exclusively dedicated to commercial aircraft, regardless of the manufacturer, and I call things as I see them. Among the things I’ve learned from my personal research is the undisputed fact that the coolest looking aircraft are the ones that fly the best (JUST KIDDING!). I do think that the IL-62 is a very nice looking aircraft, and I can appreciate its design. When it comes to Americans judging aircraft built outside of the US, I think it is childish. But given the anonymity provided by “KZfaq”, mental pygmies are able to get away with comments without consequences. Nevertheless, I have seen this sort of immaturity generated from others hailing from outside the U.S. that are just as baseless. In fact, merely because I am an American, I have been personally attacked for the most trivial nonsense. It is as if I was the one who casted the deciding vote to mess over Bombardier and its “C” series and other disputed acts of the U.S. Of course I ignore them. I find no place for politics entering the arena of plane-spotting, which is among my favorite pastime activities. OK… I’m off of my little soapbox. Personally, I would like to see more competition among aircraft manufacturers in order to break up this Boeing vs. Airbus domination of the industry. I wish Illyushin and Tupelov would get cranking again and bring more options on the table for us to enjoy. I really lament the absorption of so many aircraft manufacturers in the world and miss some of the really handsome looking aircraft we used to see back in the 60’s and 70’s. After all, my greatest heartthrob is the Convair 990, which was my first jet aircraft ride. Anyway, thank-you again for your very nice reply. I did not mean for my reply to get so long, but when it comes to discussing commercial aircraft, I find myself getting really excited. I hope to read your comments in the future.

I agree.

DGJ P he's dead

@@oliver8830 Ilyushin Design Bureau is still around with the Il-96-400M as their newest model.

​@@Cyber_kumo Cubana uses the IL-96-400 on their Madrid- Havana route as well a the cargo version for hauling freight to and from varios destination in Europe and South and Central America

I guess for 1985 they were already quite old

It was USSR not Russia as Russia got it Independence from it only in 1991

MrTommyc4321 how so? purely asking not challenging

VC-10 was designed for performance on high-alt or short runways. It was specified by BOAC that later went for 707. The Il62 although looking simular had total different goals. it was low tech compared to the vc10, had four engines for it's overall performance, and was made to be a rugged airplane capable for typical Sovjet operations.

ты баран. Общего там: только расположение двигателей

It was an export product. Also, it is good practice to include international markings on charts and graphics, if nothing else it makes certification easier.

It also compares the interior with widebody Airbus models.

It was used for a short period of time

I read somewhere (I think on some message board some years ago) that they choose this color as accordingly to their studies it is less offensive to the pilot's eyes. I think for the same reason Boeing uses light brown for their panels, and Airbus - light grey. Just what the respective manufacturer (or in the case with USSR and later Russia - the state regulations) believe is the most inoffensive color to the pilots eyes.

Стандартный комментарий неудачника с зомбомозгом.

​@@andrewyrich6363 самокритично....Но будем иметь ввиду!

My thoughts too!

I did the IL62 in 1974 from London via Moscow to Singapore. Had 24 hours in Moscow and not a word of English, nothing recognised like Coke, Toyota etc but still an awesome experience!

Yep That was CCCP - Me I came from Paris FR - Moscow - Beijing and when we arrived in Moscow airport they took away our passport and we had to spend the night inside the heavily guarded compound ' No restaurant no nothing - They gave us back our passport when we land at Beijing Airport. BUT they served good Vodka and we could still smoke cigarette during the 10 hours Flight :-)

I have travelled, during CCCP, from London to Calcutta by Aeroflot via Moscow and Tashkent. In Moscow, we were taken to a nearby hotel, had dinner, next morning breakfast, then to Tashkent, flied over the Himalayan mountain to reach Calcutta. On the way back, we were allowed to stop for one day in Tashkent and have seen the city.

LoneKinKong So Basically you had an experience of a high quality gulag camp

Last time i check 2018 they are still communist countries

To other socialist countries and to other Airlines who cant't afford a Boeing. Air India leased 3 of these and used it on USSR and East- European routes.

Airbus is the best for passengers, quiet and comfortable!

@@NakulDalakoti Do you know what years? I never saw any in full Air India livery.

@@82ivaylo Flown them hundreds of times. Can't tell the difference.

Lol

Why? Just curious.

I knew some people from my grandfather's parachute club. No English though. Why do you need this so desperately?

Try the red pages...

As successor to the popular turboprop Il-18 and with capacity for almost 200 passengers and crew, the Il-62 was the world's largest jet airliner when first flown in 1963.

I like the 400 too! The shorter fuselage of the 300 looks disproportional to me

@Adam Groppe - Ditto on that!

Lepsza kiła niż lot iła :/ ruski klamot

Lataj LOTem, trumnę przyślą potem.

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How is it odd?

They all want their "Moment of Fame".

That was typical in many Soviet-era transports.

The smaller one inside is the nosewheel steering.

Cleaner airfoil profile, and political reasons. The State wouldn't allow wing-mounted engines because it wasn't considered an indigenous Soviet design. Ilyushin eventually found a loophole when they built the Il-86 but before then, It was in the wing or up in the back. Also, the Il-62 has a rear tail-wheel that helps balance the aircraft while on the ground.

mcg160270 It doesn’t in Europe or New Zealand where they are used all the time. I fly the ATR regularly and I’m more than comfortable flying them

Atr is the ultimate trash

LOL, you gotta be kidding me. What does the ATR have to do with this? The IL-62 was actually a flying coffin. Do some research before you talk crap. That thing was probably worse than the DC-10.

@@aragornderheld The number of IL-62s built is very low, and the flights they operate even lower, so those stats mean nothing. I just remember the two horrific LOT crashes in 1980 and 1987, where everyone died, and also the Interflug one that caught fire. By your logic, the DC-10 is very safe too, isn't it?

@@VWaudiRULEs jusus christ, the ones that were built rackes up hours like crazy.

No.

But it sounds just plane awesome

No, very quiet inside.

There's a documentary called "Airplaneski!" and one of the interviewees had that exact story. Was it on Tyumen Airlines?

they actually had an excellent safety record for their time.

@@davem4143- True, just 9 of the 300 built crashed, whereas 172 of the 900 707's built crashed and were hull loses. 83 of the 500 DC-8's built were hull loses.

The ones that were built flew A LOT. Great safety record, even for today!

Is a copy of the Il-62

Сергей Д the factory in Kazan

@@ChaklitTea I'm from Kazan!

Sid Dasgupta The kabaty woods and river bank crashes

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False. It had a great safety record compared to other aircraft, especially from the time.

Soviet engineering was one of the best in the world

Какой ещё рекорд? Ил-62 падал всего 2 раза - в Польше и Хаване. Даже если это не точная информация, случаев крушения однозначно было меньше чем боингов-767 и эйрбасов320

You should read about the structure and technical characteristics. These planes have more differences than similarities, and they are similar only in appearance

It was not!

VC-10 is a wonderful airliner I love it very much, but IL-62 is better in many aspects including aerodynamic. Although VC-10 used to have a better avionics..

VC-10 transported 150 passengers on distance of 6 275 km. IL-62M transported 186 passengers on distance of 11 050 km. For all the time of operation ~7,5% of VC-10 airplanes have been lost. For all the time of operation ~7,5% of IL-62 airplanes have been lost.

Except it's a fucking copy of the VC-10 just like most Soviet aircraft were copies of successful American and European aircraft. I hate Russian aviation with a passion

Richard F. Stripe The American aircrafts could not be an example for copying. The Russian aircrafts (both civil and militaries) simply surpasses the Americans in characteristics. So there could be no copying. The copy cannot be better than the original.

Андрей Самодуров Then why does Russia have the worst aviation safety record of any other country? Why can I name at least ten aircraft off the top of my head that look almost *exactly* like other aircraft that came out after their counterparts? Not to mention the fact that many have already been proven as copies.

Even if they stole the design, the safety record of Il-62 was much better and the planes were of higher quality so I guess it is not a crime

Hi Oknelemes . Sorry for my gruff reply . I actually have a 1: 144 scale model of the II - 62 m . While i have seen way 2 many " coincidence's" between a Russian aircraft , and the Western Design Teams ,has made believe that the only thing the USSR and now Russia can do to advance their programs , is to steal other Nations reseach . I'm apologize for my position , but i believe for the most part , that i am correct . But thanks for your reply ........

@@dudleyrathborne9849 there are many design differences and proof of espionage was never found for example they would both differently balance centre of gravity