It has been great...i've been using it regularly...and I've been building a family room and office...charging and draining a whole bunch of times...banging it around while I use my tools. No problems yet. Seems to take a full charge as far as I can tell. I'm certainly satisfied!

Nice! Glad it helped. I'm still very satisfied with this battery...it's been perfect...and I'm gonna buy a couple more. So it might work well for you as well. Good luck!

Right on. Thanks again.

Maybe it is that my old batteries were getting tired? I'm not sure...I totally believe the new Makita battery would perform equally well if not better. I think I was just impressed that a cheap aftermarket battery would perform well in the first place!

It's great...still going strong. So good in fact, I only have the one and still haven't needed a second battery. Really good for the money.

Hows the battery holding up? And what's the name of it?

...on the tool

Mine is still going strong. It has almost outlasted my factory batteries at this point

spoken like someone who knows. Thankyou.

I'm still using this battery...it has held up wonderfully. I don't use it every day, but I do use it quite a bit. Worked well with my skill saw too!

Thanks for the recharge idea. I will definitely look into that. I wonder if that is the issue? I will likely video the results in case that is a viable solution. Thanks for writing!

outer limitless No Problem man Check out RealToolReview KZfaq channel he has the best one on how to-do it. & more then likely that is your problem it should atleast work & save half of your Batterys alot of ppl don't know about doing this to save them & I found out from this guys channel & it seems to work for alot of ppl. good luck my friend & yes please post the results if possible it would be great to know it worked for you😊

I have six original Makita 3 amp hour batteries, some of which are 10 years old and still work splendidly. Except for one that shit the bed a few months ago and wouldn't charge. I wish I knew about jumping it before I disposed of it. Thanks for that tip. It was very "ingesting".

What did you do to jump them...just curious!

@@outerlimitless i use a fully charged same type battery (wether its a makita,ryobi,aeg.dewalt, they must be the same brand) in this case an 18volts makita to makita...

@@metallicrock5946 what you're probably doing is recovering batteries that have gone beyond their low voltage threshold. Some chargers will refuse to charge a battery that has gone below a certain threshold voltage. They'll declare the battery defective then. But if you charge the battery with a dumb current source it doesn't care. It'll just pump juice into a battery no matter what. And if it is just a threshold issue you can get the battery above the minimum. Then a smart charger will work on the battery again, maybe. Some battery packs have circuit boards in them that remember fault conditions and just blackball the pack for all time. Unless you can hack the electronics. Tool battery packs are such a scam anymore. But hey companies are making money.

I still use it all the time. No issues at all. I can definitely recommend it . Thanks!

Yeah, exactly...you nailed the point to perfection. I scoured for new tools that I don't currently own in order to try to get the batteries. I couldn't justify a purchase. I already have 3 drills because of the battery situation and I certainly don't need more. I find two batteries will get you by if you're a typical weekend warrior. I was in hell mode in my last house and needed the 5 batteries just to keep myself progressing on my projects. I basically rebuilt my entire interior and was at it for almost 4 years straight. When I finally finished we listed the house and sold it. Glad I did all that work...NOT!

Hmmmm interesting idea! I'll see what I can do...that would be such an awesome score! Thanks for the tip...

NO you cant. The PCB in the factory batteries will brick the battery if it senses a no charge on 3 attempts. Its a BS feature tht Makita included to help line the corporate pockets. Its also why I wil not buy another Makita cordless tool.

I must have gotten lucky then. I'm an electrical worker so drills and impacts are a must and I've had to jump my makita batteries before and it worked. They have a low voltage cut off in the battery. And the charger. You just have to get it back up to a safe voltage. Maybe I just got lucky not sure. I know my batteries had the star protection stuff makita uses.

just tried this on 2 original Makita batteries that were discharged about a year ago and not recharged, OK to be fair they are the 10.8v 1013 batts however I tried to recharge them a couple of days ago and charger informed me they are screwed... this has worked a treat for me so cheers man for the heads up on this.

or you could buy a new PCB board for $10 and replace it and have a working Battery pack

I am not sure...but I do believe that they have a Milwaukee version of their battery. I would check on Amazon.com.

So far, so good. After a couple years it's still kicking like day 1!

These are WAAAAAY past warranty...by like 5 years past warranty, but still, a great set of tools. Honestly, I use my stuff and if warranty helps cool...if not I am not relying on it anyway.

It's been almost 2 years for me...this battery is actually still my workhorse. Been great!

IT has been perfect for the entire time! I still use it. I can't speak to a professional level, but for a weekend warrior or home owner, it has been great with modest use.

@@outerlimitless Amazing! Thank you for your quick response! Great informative video too! I run Ryobi normally, but I am expanding to other tools too! Cheers!

Are factory refurbished generally available? I guess I'm surprised Makita will honor a warranty for refurbushed batteries purchased on eBay...but good idea!

@@outerlimitless Not sure, but I think the refurbisher warrants them. I've only seen them on eBay. They perform like new and look like new.

Rocky fish your so full of shit, i’m a tradesman and there is no more of a reliable batteries and what Makita makes, you’re just a cheap fuck or you can’t afford it.. look what the pros use

Ryobi cells are shit, take them apart and look at the cells inside and compare them to the ones inside the makita, there is a reason the parts cost double, performance costs money...

no doubt man! my roomate has nothing but problems with makita battery's at least 6 have died on him since we have lived together and yet i have over 10 battery's between the m12 and m18 line without any problems and they live in the cold garage. crazy

Yep i kow the guy he's a real 'farther'!

Your farther looooooool

Ah, that's too bad...do you know what brand it was? Some are unbranded...but I'm still having great luck with mine...and it's been a long time that I've had it now...I built 2 rooms with it, and it's my only battery still. The battery lasts a long time between charges...and worked well even with my skill saw.

I think its from couple of knock off manufactures, the importers just put their own name on it. If it makes any difference its was from PowerSmart 18V 3000mAh Ni-MH Battery.

cut notch where battery slides a bit bigger will fix your problem...a few videos out about it..

I made an adapter to accept the new style Red Lithium including the 9.0 Ah.

This aftermarket batter has been flawless...I still use it to this day with no issues. It's been a couple years now...I'd say it was worth it!

That very well could be the case. They definitely perform well enough for me, but I'm just a weekend warrior.

I'd guess about a good 6 years...as a home owner, yet still lots of projects and 2 houses later....

Rebuilding would be cool but you have to replace the circuit board in them as well. Stupid fukin makita battery packs have a micro-processor in them that bricks the battery completely after they fail to charge 3 times. There are replacement circuit boards that can bring an entire battery back to life though, I've done this with complete success.

6 years and you jumped to a off brand? I think you need to rethink your loyalty process... lol id say hell yes again please...

Shaun Catlett I've used aftermarket Makita batteries on a circular saw. It seemed to be just as powerful as the genuine. The way these batteries working is they do use good lithium cells but they're just recycled from other batteries. They're the real deal when it comes to power but they aren't brand new

Very interesting...good advice. I might look into an aftermarket battery charger. That seems to be a good option...at least keeps the batteries working potentially for a little while longer!

Sometimes battery voltage drop too low , wont charge , I use aftermarket charger to change for few mins , then put it back to Makita charger , it may work or just label those batteries use aftermarket charger . Aftermarket charger will charge to 20-21 v , it is a 21 v charger ,when battery has 21 v , charger will turn off . Most 18650 lithium cells charge to 4.2 Volts maximum , 4.2 x 5= 21 v ,charge to 21 is safe .

Or just dont let the charger reject the battery 3 times in a row, it wont lockout the battery unless you keep trying to charge a battery below its specification threshold. Jumper wires over from a fully charged cell and bring the dodgy one up over 19.5v and then you can just go back to using it like before. But the battery's he described must have already taken too much damage to be useful now as he claimed even the LED was dim (although it is a 3.2v led, it shouldn't ever be too low to run at full brightness if the tool still runs the 18v motor, even with voltage drop the motor would stall well before the led is not getting the power it needs, but this is theory, i`ll give him the benefit of doubt due to having a real world experience), either way i'm sure he has locked out the protection board from too many failed charge attempts plus the remaining cells must be very damaged from such a long time at low voltage, I wish he would have purchased 1 original cell to compare the clones against over the coming years, he would be better placed to go on the record advising others, productivity is important to anyone who earns his supper with his tools...

Not a 5 amp, good batteries though, i have several and have outlasted the factory ones

Dunno...I'm looking at it right here in front of me and it says 5AH which to me would be 5 amp hour. There were smaller options...I opted for the larger...aka 5 amp hour. But anyway...maybe it's misleading?

@@outerlimitless marketed as 5 with sticker but copy of a 3ah. + its charge lasts less than original makita of 3ah

Never heard of a rebuild kit...i'll have to check it out!

@@outerlimitless hi, did u throw away dead batteries?

@@pak2ku5 I have most of them...a couple sold on eBay for parts

@@outerlimitless how much did u sold it on ebay and how many left? If u know how to rebuild it using spot welder it will be great.

Good idea...yeah, a little shot might help!

be careful with W'D its flammable / a good grease may be better

Good to know. Yep sus of the old planned obselesons trick.

I think there are many versions out there...some better than others. This one seems to be pretty good...still working perfectly!

This aftermarket battery has lasted much longer than the factory makita battery...the makita batteries from my set are awful...every single one died.

I used to buy Ridgid...I generally like their tools.

Yeah, I had 5 of them...one died early on, but 4 died within a month of eachother...left me hanging, that's for sure!!

ive just purchased 8 x 4ah of ebay after having 7 stolen from my van blah blah blah and all seems good so far. 2 months of heavy use every day with at least me and 1 other using them. each 4 pack cost me £72.99 that's cheaper than 1x oem battery in the uk

Wow...bummer that they were stolen. But I'm glad to hear that they work well...I have had no problem with mine...I have significantly less use, but I did build a family room and office basically with just the one battery. They last a long time and I would charge between use. Still going strong!

That's interesting...you find the smaller batteries perform better without deficiency? Maybe there's something to that?

I'm definitely going to look into that...I didn't even realize you could do that.

outer limitless it would be very hard to rebuild the packs because the protection circuit knows the battery was damaged so it won't charge even if you replace the cells. You would need to get a new protection circuit which is not compatible with the balancing circuit already in the Makita battery so you have to take it out. A lack of balancing circuit can cause the individual cells to charge at different speeds so it could burn up the lithium cells. I'd say it's much easier to just buy a replacement battery. Although the replacement batteries use cells from other products. They are genuine high quality cells but they've been desoldered from another tool or battery pack and put into these replacement batteries. AvE has a video where he compares the genuine Milwaukee battery to a replacement one and explains this better

HDXFH.... The failure point for these Makita batteries is in the electronic circuit board located in the battery pack. This will make rebuilding Makita batteries extreamly difficult to do.

Yeah, honestly, the batteries are BRUTAL. I have Ryobe batteries that out performed the Makita.

Honestly, my original batteries were terrible. This aftermarket has been great. More than great. The factory batteries died disgustingly fast.

How4Basic And it's my job to show people and explain that...WTF.

Yeah, it's dissappointing...the makita products are generally good, but the batteries are brutal!

I have some Bosch tools and I am very impressed at the quality. I'm not sure about the batteries compared to others, but mine have been excellent on the Bosch tools.

John L You have no idea what you’re talking about, it’s actually the exact office if they have the highest success rate of any other cordless tool maker on the planet, nobody comes close to their reliability and value

Where in your ass did you pull that one out of? LINK?

@@irishsavage8715.... You are not an Engineer my friend, this is why the Makita Lithium Batteries fail at a higher rate than normal.. I have been a big fan of the Makita 18v LXT cordless tools for several years now. In most cases I rarely if ever use the corded tools they replaced, despite this there does seem to be a major week point, the batteries. Out of the eight batteries I have purchased over the years four have failed out side of the warranty period, plus two failed within or just after the end of the warranty and were replaced at no charge by Makita. It seems there are two main failure causes, number one over heating and the second is the first two cells fail due to them being used to power the battery management chip and slowly discharging over an extended idol period. This causes the battery to be unbalanced. Once you get the red / green flashing lights three times on the charger your battery control board locks the battery from being recharge again.

@@Holiday48000 they have very shit battery's for sure!

That might be true for a professional. This video is posted from the average joe perspective...I still run my aftermarket battery and it has been absolutely perfect...flawless for a couple years now, and I really can't say I have seen any significant performance drop. I'd suggest even a professional could probably get away with these and buy 4 times the batteries...therefor they really only need to last a quarter as long to make the money worth while??

yeah but - what of environmental concerns? Certainly its better to use something til it is actually dead - I doubt most devices would see damage from low undervolting.

Hahaha, yeah that charger? It's a little unnecessary with the fans and all the sounds. The Makita batteries are tough...that is for sure!

Lol the fans cool the cells, hot cells do not perform as well. Plus it is the reason why Makita can charge the cells in 15mins. Makita tools are used all over industry for a reason. Time is money baby. Makita first gen cells have a over zealous protection circuit but then they were a couple of years ahead of the compitition with that bit of tech, hmm kind of reminds me of their brushless tech, or the crazy high tolerance for chuck run out, or bearing ratings, or the amount of glass in the glass reinforced plastics, or the natural rubber wires instead of shitty thermoplastics... etc..

Seeing as though this is my only video about tools I can assure you it is not a commercial.

I guess I don't understand. Is the only criteria of a video about a battery that you see it power a tool? So the 6 minute mark is your defining moment? I don't understand that at all. Of course the battery powers the tool...wow, revolutionary mind blowing concept! I just couldn't wait for that moment while I was forced to watch a whole 6 minutes of someone describing the scenario. You apparently don't watch my channel...and that's ok. I don't expect you to like it...and if you don't, whatever. But I guess I got your view...thanks for the $0.0003 in ad revenue!

@@outerlimitless "I don't expect you to like it...and if you don't, whatever." Reading your elaborate response it's not really "whatever" . . . . . right?

Yeah, it's kinda whatever. I can't create content that everyone likes. If you want pretty pictures of a product, this is not your channel. If you want detail and explanation, maybe you'll appreciate it. And if you just don't like it...whatever...sorry, I tried! What would you prefer from a first impressions video and product overview? What should it have been since you seem to think the information was useless, long winded ass?

@@outerlimitless You seem to have a lot of unproductive time on your hands. lol

Glad you liked it! 10,000+ views says it wasn't useless. Half as long...sure, maybe. There are 10 times the likes than dislikes, and dozens of comments that lead me to believe it wasn't useless. And you're obviously not a subscriber or regular viewer of my channel...so you don't understand my review style or content. So that's fine...you can just drop your comment...I'm ok with that.