Historic Blunder of The Lonely Knight | Fischer vs Taimanov | (1971) | Game 2
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Robert James Fischer vs Mark Taimanov
"Lonely Knight" (game of the day Nov-14-2012)
Fischer - Taimanov Candidates Quarterfinal (1971), Vancouver CAN, rd 2, May-18
Sicilian Defense: Paulsen. Szen Variation (B44)
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cd4 4. Nd4 e6 5. Nb5 d6 6. Bf4 e5 7. Be3 Nf6 8. Bg5 Qa5 9. Qd2 Ne4 10. Qa5 Na5 11. Be3 Kd7 12. N1c3 Nc3 13. Nc3 Kd8 14. Nb5 Be6 15. O-O-O b6 16. f4 ef4 17. Bf4 Nb7 18. Be2 Bd7 19. Rd2 Be7 20. Rhd1 Bb5 21. Bb5 Kc7 22. Re2 Bf6 23. Rde1 Rac8 24. Bc4 Rhf8 25. b4 a5 26. Bd5 Kb8 27. a3 Rfd8 28. Bf7 Bc3 29. Bd2 d5 30. Rd1 d4 31. Bc3 Rc3 32. Kb2 d3 33. Kc3 de2 34. Re1 Nd6 35. Bh5 Nb5 36. Kb2 ab4 37. ab4 Rd4 38. c3 Rh4 39. Be2 Nd6 40. Rd1 Kc7 41. h3 Rf4 42. Rf1 Re4 43. Bd3 Re5 44. Rf2 h5 45. c4 Rg5 46. Kc3 Kd7 47. Ra2 Kc8 48. Kd4 Kc7 49. Ra7 Kd8 50. c5 bc5 51. bc5 Ne8 52. Ra2 Nc7 53. Bc4 Kd7 54. Rb2 Kc6 55. Bb3 Nb5 56. Ke3 Kc5 57. Kf4 Rg6 58. Bd1 h4 59. Kf5 Rh6 60. Kg5 Nd6 61. Bc2 Nf7 62. Kg4 Ne5 63. Kf4 Kd4 64. Rb4 Kc3 65. Rb5 Nf7 66. Rc5 Kd4 67. Rf5 g5 68. Kg4 Ne5 69. Kg5 Rg6 70. Kh4 Rg2 71. Bd1 Rg8 72. Bg4 Ke4 73. Kg3 Rg7 74. Rf4 Kd5 75. Ra4 Ng6 76. Ra6 Ne5 77. Kf4 Rf7 78. Kg5 Rg7 79. Kf5 Rf7 80. Rf6 Rf6 81. Kf6 Ke4 82. Bc8 Kf4 83. h4 Nf3 84. h5 Ng5 85. Bf5 Nf3 86. h6 Ng5 87. Kg6 Nf3 88. h7 Ne5 89. Kf6
About five months after the Palma de Mallorca Interzonal (1970) qualifier was held, the first stage (the quarterfinals) of the Candidates matches was held in four cities in May 1971. In Vancouver, Canada there was a 10 game match between Mark Taimanov and Bobby Fischer, played May 16th - June 1st. Fischer sensationally won the match with a perfect score of 6-0, thereby proceeding to the Fischer - Larsen Candidates Semifinal (1971). After the event, Taimanov was reported to have said, "At least I still have my music." He wasn't being merely melodramatic: the consequences of this loss were to haunt him for years. In an interview with Joel Lautier, Taimanov later recounted:
"Until the match with Fischer in 1971, everything went smoothly in my chess career. This dramatic match changed my life into hell."
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@agadmator 6 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone! :) I made a video on game 3 last year. You're welcome to dive straight into it after this one and tell me if I should remake the video or not. Fischer vs Taimanov (1971) Game 3 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jp5dbJOUtcyaYYE.html
@TG-to5nf 6 жыл бұрын
The old video is good, but the quality of your videos and overlay has increased since then, newer viewers might appreciate a remake.
@peterdickens6999 6 жыл бұрын
good video, but anyone who doesnt read comments may think you just skipped one in the series
@goktugozturan6238 6 жыл бұрын
Remake pls 😊
@siddharthjain8526 6 жыл бұрын
No videos since 1959candidate tournament need a remake .because it was the beginning of a new agadmator and rise of your channel ...but older videos can be remade as sometimes you were feeling cold sometimes off mood (that Anand game)
@abhishek11572 6 жыл бұрын
Please make new one..
@stevethomas4163 6 жыл бұрын
If I were playing Fischer, I’d be delighted to only be 3-0 down after the second game.
@xander1052 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@gonzalo4658 4 жыл бұрын
xander10 lmao is right
@julienbo 4 жыл бұрын
greatest Fischer comment ever!
@mattiasantangelo9421 4 жыл бұрын
is it possible to give more than just one like to this comment?
@xander1052 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattiasantangelo9421 if you have 2 youtube accounts, yes!
@jeikowb 5 жыл бұрын
Me: lol how stupid could you be to move your knight there, obviously the rook will just capture the knight. Agadmator: Obviously you cannot capture the knight
@tijhevella-verney3609 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like that all the time
@bbxdesign 5 жыл бұрын
4:44 for those curious
@Atombender 5 жыл бұрын
@@tijhevella-verney3609 Same.
@Rikomer 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you capture the knight it is a wonderful mate in 986
@josephdebes7128 4 жыл бұрын
trollypoly420 y
@SelfReflective 5 жыл бұрын
"...Taimanov opts for the Taimanov variation of the Sicilian..." - wow, what are the odds of that happening?
@RibusPQR 5 жыл бұрын
It's like Lou Gehrig dying of Lou Gehrig's Disease.
@apmaz6112 4 жыл бұрын
Lol he invented the variation what do u expect
@your_fathers 4 жыл бұрын
@@apmaz6112 thank you for explaining the not very obvious meaning of the joke mr.griffin
@gonzalo4658 4 жыл бұрын
RibusPQR chill
@traplover6357 3 жыл бұрын
@@your_fathers thats the joke you moron. No normal person would explain an obvious joke unless they're baiting.
@anirudhabrv1 6 жыл бұрын
It was such a big game, even Agadmator finished Game 3 before game 2
@sandeeppanda3252 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice !!
@agadmatorsdog9273 6 жыл бұрын
woof.
@_doubtzy 6 жыл бұрын
Agadmator's Dog best comment of the video goes to 😎
@nline2blast722 6 жыл бұрын
Wiggle wiggle wiggle
@nline2blast722 6 жыл бұрын
I thank he waits till doggie is ready before he starts the video
@samrangdale8971 5 жыл бұрын
Good boy
@theotherjoedimaggio 5 жыл бұрын
9:34 looked fun
@AsdKeys 6 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't believe how vast my knowledge has become after finding your channel.
@aayushjariwala6256 5 жыл бұрын
Hey asdkey i love ur videos too....
@medexamtoolsdotcom 5 жыл бұрын
Really? Because he's pretty much only talked about chess. Pretty silly to think you "unbelievably vast knowledge" no matter how much an expert in chess you may be.
@ro0b0 5 жыл бұрын
@@medexamtoolsdotcom Jesus fucking Christ learn to recognize a joke you daft walnut
@pet3r387 5 жыл бұрын
Ro0b0 “you daft walnut” might be my favorite insult to date. Right next to “you dense cabbage”
@THUGmanHikigaya 5 жыл бұрын
@@pet3r387 what is the meaning of 'daft' though...
@polytopiahu1015 5 жыл бұрын
Bobby Fischer's so good, he managed to be up by 3 points after game 2
@Skabanis 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@alberthuang4868 3 жыл бұрын
0 for loss, 1 for win, 1/2 for draw so how do you get 3 points after 2 games?
@polytopiahu1015 3 жыл бұрын
@@alberthuang4868 21:22
@odkod249 5 жыл бұрын
"Taimanov opts for the Taimonov variation" idk why i thought this was so funny
@spencergraham-thille9896 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like obviously he was going to choose that one.
@betaneptune 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's pretty good. Even just reading it here.
@Surfer041 4 жыл бұрын
The greatest chess man on social media. Everytime I hear "Hello Everyone" I can't help by smile and get ready for your amazing commentary. Thank you Agadmator.
@TerracottaPie1987 6 жыл бұрын
Such a lonely knight And it's mine
@georgemanize 6 жыл бұрын
The most loneliest knight of my life
@leotavora2108 6 жыл бұрын
Scrolled down looking for this. Thank you.
@pietrek1602 6 жыл бұрын
Such a lonely knight Should be banned
@dewifebri4560 6 жыл бұрын
SOAD SYNC
@doysgermian9287 5 жыл бұрын
*Starts to scream* THE MOST LONLIEST KNIGHT IN MY LAAAAAAAAAIIIIF THE MOST LONLIEST KNIGHT IN MY LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIF
@mrmonster8242 6 жыл бұрын
Tal really does make great comments about complex games
@DipanGhosh 6 жыл бұрын
Complications are his signature thing after all...
@droceretik 6 жыл бұрын
Why did you doubt that Tal made comments about complex games?
@ilprincipe8094 4 жыл бұрын
This Tal guy should also start a KZfaq channel!
@mangonicusmaximus369 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Maybe he should start his own style of chess. Gotta admit the guy's talented.
@alexanderlea2293 4 жыл бұрын
"Taimanov opts for the Taimanov variation of the Sicilian defense" - sounds about right
@omniyambot9876 2 жыл бұрын
Is he exactly the one named after?
@andraslibal 4 жыл бұрын
Me : pieces are moving on the board Agadmator: this is the specific variation of the specific defense played to this kind of opening that has this name oh and by the way historically he chooses this kind of response as opposed to that kind of response because last time he did it it was in this tournament of that year in that location when he moved the piece exactly like this and not like that. Also do you remember this game by other players where they ended up in this position and played such and such moves ...
@Secret_Sun33 2 жыл бұрын
Why yes.. yes of course how could i forget.
@Atombender 5 жыл бұрын
I think I would mave made 5 errors during that endgame. Every time I thought that mine was a decent move, agadmator was like "of course you can't do that".
@FloydMaxwell 6 жыл бұрын
You are packing so much in the descriptions now. Content is growing in all directions.
@fastpace101 6 жыл бұрын
Floyd Maxwell I need a too long didn't read...
@evi9740 6 жыл бұрын
Floyd Maxwell Taimanov was a good player.
@MilkCheaks 6 жыл бұрын
20min + video by agadmator? Better get my popcorn
@MKcLTM 6 жыл бұрын
U can always cut first 2-3min and dont miss anything.
@jeremymcadam7400 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I finished the video and was scrolling down here before I realised that
@JJ-kl7eq 6 жыл бұрын
Morphy vs Anderssen ➡️ Miniature chess game Morpheus vs Anderson ➡️ Miniature Kung fu fight. Deja Vu. I sense a glitch in the Matrix. I should have taken the black and white checkered pill.
@ryanflanagan9624 4 жыл бұрын
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@ryanflanagan9624 4 жыл бұрын
@attack333 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son john 3:16-18 Jesus Christ is The same yesterday, today and forever hebrews 13:8 amen come to know Jesus today He died on the cross for our sins and rose again, so we can live with Him forever because He loves us, by His blood He has victory over sin, death and hell amen. God Jesus The Holy Spirit love you amen God bless amen :) repent of your sins and come to Jesus for The Kingdom of heaven is at hand and Jesus alone saves all who come to Jesus are saved all who believe in Jesus are saved forevermore in Jesus Name amen
@brianbernstein3826 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Agadmator hosting his own TV gameshow where a position is shown and 3 contestants must strike a buzzer to say the best move
@purpleblood5551 4 жыл бұрын
I love this guys voice.. makes me want to watch for hours. Keep up the great work my friend 👍🏽
@IgnatzKolisch 5 жыл бұрын
I've come across your videos at random several times over the last couple of months. I have to say I really like your style and your execution! You do a good job of compressing for time (which you must do for KZfaq videos), clearly have a lot of enthusiasm for these great games, and you cover the main ideas excellently. 320,000 subscribers? That's a lot for a chess channel, but I can see why you have so many. Add one from me after seeing this video - possibly the 6th or 7th of yours I've seen over the last few months - and thank you for your content. I look forward to exploring more and hope you come out with more in the future!
@jessezander3159 6 жыл бұрын
I love your commentaries. Thank you so much!
@marcomorpheus6455 3 жыл бұрын
Love how he says "zugzwang" 😄👌🏻😍
@williamburdon6993 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing these great players with us!
@civitashulkensis9649 5 жыл бұрын
Agad and Tal are best pair of chess commentators ever!
@DavesDime 6 жыл бұрын
I love these games that play all the way down to the bitter end! Far too many games end in an early resignation (though I do love how you always explain why it is pointless for the losing side to continue). Love the channel, only a casual chess fan (haven't played in years) but addicted to these videos and might dust off the old chess board soon! Keep up the great work agadmator.
@RockHudrock 6 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos! Very nice!
@operasinger2126 5 жыл бұрын
Got to say you make chess interesting to someone like myself who has a very causal interest in the game. Good job!
@dockwonder2278 4 жыл бұрын
1:01 _"Taimanov opts for the Taimanov variation of the Sicilian"_ Great
@wreckim 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. I wonder what it's like to have so much video of yourself. As I listened to this wonderful analysis, Antonio speaks of watching his own video. I believe, at 56 yrs of age, I have a total of maybe 20 minutes of video of myself accumulated in all videos in the last 15 years or so. I used to take much more video before the advent of cell phones, ironically.
@TessaTestarossa 5 жыл бұрын
Y'know, one moment I really loved in this game was Taimanov sacrificing the f7 to create something out of nothing. He was so passive and getting all beaten, but suddenly boom!
@rmendeljacobs2832 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting so much hard work into this channel. You've improved so much since I've started watching way back in 2017 when you only had a mere 30k subs. You have our support bro 👊🏼🔥
@RolfyOlbap 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect Words. Fully agree.
@neel5492 6 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to make a video montage of agadmator saying "hello everyone" in all of his videos
@XSeDanX 6 жыл бұрын
Somebody has already done that!
@RolfyOlbap 6 жыл бұрын
As you wish kzfaq.info/get/bejne/naton8SKr9iafIk.html
5 жыл бұрын
Great commentary and analysis!
@williamburdon6993 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the channel and your vast knowledge of games. I had been stagnant for a long while in improving , but , since I started watching all of these great games and seeing the ideas the best players came up with , my game is improving quite a bit . I went from 1475 to 1550 rating on chess.com for the last 3 years , to 1600 to 1700 and I can see that my board vision is much better. I need to do more tactics, as I am weak in that area, and I am sure the improvement will continue. Thanks very much I hope to one day be presented as hoodie man on your channel for a brilliancy!
@ScottieMacF 5 жыл бұрын
These videos are fascinating. I am terrible at chess unless it's on an easy setting but I enjoy watching. These players are geniuses at their craft and it's all very well presented by the host.
@qendrimsyla6495 6 жыл бұрын
These last 2 endgames are so beautifully crafted by both players
@cygnustsp 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely would enjoy a new video on game 3
@vivek_yt 6 жыл бұрын
Grab your popcorn and watch the show !! Really enjoyed it😗😗
@songoten1218 6 жыл бұрын
the quality of your videos has skyrocketed so much i request that you re-analyse game 3.
@williameriksson9344 3 жыл бұрын
great video!
@ap6765 3 жыл бұрын
A note worthy to be mentioned- Taimanov was not only a great chess player but also a great classical pianist.
@RaineriHakkarainen 3 ай бұрын
Taimanov was world ranking 5th Best chess player in 1957! Taimanov was weaker pianist not even close the top!
@shillongmathematics2441 6 жыл бұрын
More like...Lonely night for me now...This video definitely makes it less lonely. Thanks.
@ABHAYCHETTY 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!The historical moment where a lonely Knight had the biggest Knightmare that any other piece could never have.And this was played two chess master.Those chess masters are Bobby Fishcer and Mark Taimanav.Your channel is very helpful for chess for people of any age.I hope you have a happy life making videos for Agadmator Chess Channel.
@realbradfieldfoodreviews6392 6 жыл бұрын
Love the new longer vids
@israfel070 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@normanderna 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@evigasser1906 6 жыл бұрын
great game and video...hope you cover game 3 another time
@datraucous3351 4 жыл бұрын
I'd of loved to of seen Fischer at his prime against Carlsen.
@asutoshboro1997 6 жыл бұрын
i first hit like agadmator's videos and then watch.
@michaeltellurian825 6 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, great story!
@torrubirubi 4 жыл бұрын
great video
@lyricsronen 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite videos of yours are the ones in which your dog is having a full seizure in the background
@zogzog1063 6 жыл бұрын
Great game. Thank you.
@mattbeckwith 6 жыл бұрын
You know, Fischer winning all these games in the candidates matches, you’d think that his opponents would have made a lot of mistakes. But it looks like his opponents played pretty well he just played better.
@100neshama 6 жыл бұрын
Matt Beckwith common,obviously major blunder by Taimanov with moving king instead of knight. Fischer great anyway
@TheAngelOfDeath01 3 жыл бұрын
Always a well of information!
@gabe2349 3 жыл бұрын
You know you’re good when you play the variation named for you.
@yousak527 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful game in the end!!! U r the Marco polo of chess bro)
@raynmanshorts9275 4 жыл бұрын
0:39 That photo is pretty hilarious to me. It looks like this took place in a school gymnasium.
@sniffableandirresistble 5 жыл бұрын
That move was fucking awesome holy shit!!!
@_amrbadr_ 4 жыл бұрын
0:26 bruh look behind you ur dog is having a seizure
@chasejohnson302 3 жыл бұрын
Taimanov playing the Taimanov variation of the Sicilian?? I can't believe it
@feedingyouinformation2572 5 жыл бұрын
"THERE IS NO RUSH. YOU CAN CAPTURE THIS ROOK WHENEVER YOU LIKE" best feeling in chess period.
@nathanalbright 6 жыл бұрын
And after winning the second game of the match, Fischer was up 3-0. How rare is that?!
@WannesMalfait 6 жыл бұрын
I'm currently reading endgame. It's a biography about Fischer. It's nice to read about his life and then see the games analyzed. (The book has no games notated)
@dawsonwu7272 4 жыл бұрын
9:39 the dog is enjoying himself
@vaheminasyan4045 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent game 👏
@lsatenstein 6 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if the board could have a frame around it when you are showing possibilities. I am trying to follow the game and you provide many alternatives, causing me some distraction
@adityas3259 4 жыл бұрын
6:31 “The d6 pawn is attacked 4 times, and if you try something like bishop captures, This was played in the game” Very smooth way of saying it doesn’t work!!
@wally9747 4 жыл бұрын
the dog doing god knows what in the back made me subscribe and probably the reason why im 1100 rated
@stevefowler2112 6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding channel...thank you so much...your videos are both informative and entertaining, I just sent you some monetary thanx. If I could ask a question, I am a novice chess player but want to get better, I like to read (real books), could you suggest a couple chess books for me to start with?
@andreialexandruparfeni7129 6 жыл бұрын
Lonely Historic of The Blunder Knight.
@tiromancino_tt Жыл бұрын
great Bobby
@StephenDoty84 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea to go through his winning streak!
@shashankbhat7995 6 жыл бұрын
A attacker is helpless as Fischer's fav light square Bishop is on heights..such a beauty
@rileysinclair5980 5 жыл бұрын
Taimanov and I have incredibly similar last names (Tinianov for me)
@digcfkXD 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect intro time😁
@sweatypockets1923 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone see the dog going crazy in the back? Lmao
@sroycze9284 6 жыл бұрын
what a game man
@danmpgh4488 6 жыл бұрын
Hey agadmator, will you be covering the St Louis rapid and blitz tournament ? Fabi is off to a flying start
@immanuellasker4273 5 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@victorsamuleson9505 3 жыл бұрын
What's the best book for endgame knowledge 50 years ago are used to play in the open tournaments at the Henry Hudson Hotel and I used to play for three hours and be up at Pawn as soon as I walked into the endgame I would lose the pawn and fill my position to be losing a couple of comments on why The king or the rook moves to a certain position would be extremely helpful thank you
@jeremygonzalez2230 3 жыл бұрын
Captures captures captures
@kasialotnik2864 5 жыл бұрын
fischer not only one of best , but top personality in chess
@tirthajyotiroy6254 6 жыл бұрын
Fischer, the endgame master
@samgriffith5528 28 күн бұрын
@agadmator at 14:58 why doesn't Fischer play rook to B6 check? It seems like the black king would need to retreat and then he could push the pawn out of harms way and with check
@johnaustin3619 4 жыл бұрын
Your comments definitely improve over time!
@IanBenedict 6 жыл бұрын
Medo seems to be easily entertained by himself
@Doc_Fun 3 жыл бұрын
0:39 I find it kind of hysterical that one of Fischer's most legendary matches happened in a place that looks like my old elementary school gym.
@yd--ramaz--87 11 ай бұрын
Does Rf6 exchanging the rooks around move 70 hold
@hmt4173 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Antonio, I've been thinking about buying that lichess shirt, but was having second thoughts because I wasn't sure about material quality. I'd like to hear what you think of that shirt! Also, great video!
@SlotMachineSergei 5 жыл бұрын
If Malcom in the middle got kidnapped by Russians and was only allowed to play Chess
@valentineckardt1293 6 жыл бұрын
In min 8:20 why black has to go to b8? He could go to c8 and the rook would not be trapped and why in Minute 16:00 rook to h6 instead of g3?
@krzaq666 5 жыл бұрын
After finishing game #2, Fischer was 3 points in the lead. Damn, he was good.
@jerem18h 4 жыл бұрын
Was the a2 pawn hanging when blacks bishop was on e6? Or was there just no point in grabbing it?
@j.prt.979 3 жыл бұрын
In the position where the blunder happens, can you alternatively check the King with the bishop and push the pawn to h4 next move?
@michaeljprice1097 6 жыл бұрын
wow, what a great game
@part6133 5 күн бұрын
I believe that you have to explain that the king can get to the corner even if it is down a pawn and a bishop it is still a drawer so mark would have moved his King back to d6-e7 -f7 -g7 draw
@barryk7949 4 жыл бұрын
After black's K-c6, what about R-b6? Seems like white could save the pawn and apply some pressure?
5 жыл бұрын
15:00 Why not Rb6+ Kd7 and then many possibilities as white rook and bishop would be pretty active?
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