The Most Divisive Chair!? The BEST Standing Desk!? Autonomous ErgoChair Pro+ and SmartDesk Pro
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Күн бұрынBy popular demand, I finally decided to review the Autonomous ErgoChair Pro+ (formerly known as the Kinn). As a bonus, I'm also reviewing the Autonomous SmartDesk Pro.
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Table of Contents:
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0:00 - Delicious B-Roll
0:36 - Introducing The Products
1:38 - Coupon Codes!!!
2:22 - The Most Divisive Chair
6:33 - The Legs/Casters
6:51 - The Chair Controls
9:00 - The Arms
9:50 - The Backrest
10:52 - Chair Cons
11:32 - Why I Chose the SmartDesk Pro
11:55 - The Weight Capacity
12:32 - Stability Test
13:12 - Choose the Right Size
13:53 - Desk Adjustments + Height Levels
15:35 - Speed/Sound Test
16:03 - How to Install
17:29 - Outro
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@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention Autonomous has a 30-day return period on most products! Links: Autonomous: 🛒 geni.us/q37z Use code "Ahnestly02" for a discount! *HERMAN MILLER (USA)* 🛒Herman Miller Gaming Embody (USA): geni.us/EUQ983 🛒Herman Miller Non-Gaming Embody (USA): geni.us/mMxm Walnut Table Top: instagram.com/marcopolowoodworks Follow + DM for 15% off existing products and 10% off custom products 🛒 www.etsy.com/shop/MarcoPoloWoodworks The Blind Guys 📼 Blind Chair Review Pt. 1 (7 Chairs!) - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qqxnZq5zvM2vY4E.html 📼 Blind Chair Review Pt. 2 (13 Chairs!) - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNmaosSJvdHIl2g.html On The Desk: 🛒 RGB Stick Lamp - geni.us/68tUhx 🛒 Keyboard (Keychron K8) - amzn.to/3eLPJ7W 📼 Dream PC Build - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/orxkprGGrKqoaI0.html 📼 Dream PC Build Fan Update - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fb1jkqSLqp2XgZc.html ============================= Relevant Links: ============================= 📼 The Blind Guys: kzfaq.info 📼 Blind Test: 7 Chairs (Including HM, Secret Lab, Autonomous): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qqxnZq5zvM2vY4E.html 📼 Herman Miller Embody Review: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fc2UptuptJ6cn4U.html 📼 HM Embody Headrest: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y96fnbZj3ZjdY30.html 📼 My #1 Chair Pick Under $600 (SecretLab Neue): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrejYK59zZ6npmg.html 📼 Favorite Budget Chair: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aM-Cgref3LiXfXU.html 📼 How to Buy a Used Aeron: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rpORmKeSra-pko0.html 📼 Aeron Atlas Headrest Review: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJaIZKmouM62dIE.html 📼 Used Buying Guide for (almost) ALL Herman Miller chairs: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftt3qt1i0NunZoU.html 📼 Secret Lab Omega vs Aeron: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJeqh6WYndrFo3U.html 📼 NobleChairs Icon: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apide7idlrScgKM.html 📼 Sidiz T50 & T80: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZh1l8mlvrKmgXk.html 📼 Mavix M7 & M9: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rL6pgsedv9TUY58.html 📼 AndaSeat Kaiser: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdxjasudl627poE.html 📼 Budget Standing Desk: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5qGdNGorNy8cas.html
@bthdimension Жыл бұрын
The craziest thing about autonomous: they had a Kickstarter campaign to fund the development of an already existing chair (all their chairs are just rebrands) :-D the kinn/pro+ is in fact the Merryfair Reya
@HokageKyubiNaruto Жыл бұрын
They buy dropshipped chairs
@scarfacesf Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for being actually ahnest and not biased. Wish this creator was honest about the products.
@ragincaucasian9209 10 ай бұрын
@@scarfacesf yea isn't it funny when whatever kind of creator or influencer has "honest" or "truth" in their name or title are usually full of shit
@Ahnestly 10 ай бұрын
Or…maybe….Just maybe…I didn’t know? Haha. Anyways, I put out a list of my top recommended chairs every year. Needless to say, this chair hasn’t been on any of my lists. I’ve learned that if you want to buy from a company that doesn’t drop ship chairs, be ready to spend $900+. And if you think OMG HERMAN MILLER IS THE WAY TO GO…the aeron costs them like $150 to make and they sell for $1800. So yeah…
@mikebenson3626 2 жыл бұрын
Bro your hard work on this channel does not go unrecognized. One day you will be one of the “big” channels. Trust.
@Ahnestly 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!’
@mattnielsen7639 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly im more curious how you have a seperate room for this, all these chairs. The desk....how do you afford it lol and what am I missing...oh and sweet computer!
@too2ilent893 3 жыл бұрын
More like DAMN Ahn, that intro tho! That was some really nice work!
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA I love it. Thanks!!!
@muhammadarifzahran9539 2 жыл бұрын
I found that you can tighten the arm width adjustment by tightening the two screws/bolts underneath the armrest pads (access for the bottom) using a hex key. I've been using the Kinn/Ergochair Pro+/Reya chair for over a year and have not much of an issue with loose arm rests in forever.
@Ahnestly 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@igotsickieatlight Жыл бұрын
how is it now ? I have seen reviews where the mesh gets destroyed on the back
@muhammadarifzahran9539 Жыл бұрын
@@igotsickieatlight dunno bout Ahnestly, but mine’s still fine. Going strong. Word of caution, don’t let the seat be pushed as far back as it can go. It WILL rub against the back.
@Ahnestly Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, the way, KZfaq notifies me about these replies, makes it so that I can’t see what video or chair this comment is under. Also, I’m using voice to text so sorry if it’s sloppy.
@muhammadarifzahran9539 Жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly it’s the Autonomous Kinn/Ergochair Pro+ and their standing desk
@manonanisland88 3 жыл бұрын
Your PC is a thing of beauty.
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Tell my wallet that :-\ lol
@alteregos8949 3 жыл бұрын
The chair by sight doesn’t look like a chair I would be happy with. I’m not a fan of stiff chairs for the computer. It’s a place I go to relax and play games, watch movies and such. The desk is beautiful and I do like standing option that goes with it. The one thing I would add is a 30” sliding keyboard and mouse tray. That would make it a perfect straight forward desk for gaming and media computer enthusiast. Cool subject matter for the video. Great job explaining them both.
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Sliding tray? Link me please. KZfaq may auto delete so please email to ahntouragemedia@gmail.com
@WanderingAroundAZ 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to save yourself some money on a sit-stand desk, the Monoprice desk is a good value. I’ve had it for nearly 6 months and it’s been great.
@dylanmurphy7814 2 жыл бұрын
First off, nice video. Secondly, do you think this chair is worth it new for $250-$300? I'm 6' 3" and 245 lbs and worry this will be too short for me. Thoughts? Thanks!
@ThomasBReef Жыл бұрын
FOUND IT! lol thanks dude!
@campitcher8507 3 жыл бұрын
It's weird what Autonomous did with that chair. When it first came out, it was called the "kinn" chair and it was 400 bucks. That seems more like what that chair is worth. They didn't change anything but the name and upped the price 300 bucks. I will say that I have the smart desk 2 and I love it. It's been great.
@__vha 2 жыл бұрын
Autonomous chairs are rebranded ergnonomic chairs from some Asian manufacturer. I'm absolutely not surprised by any other shady business practices they may partake in.
@MsgReqium 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see any Kinn chair anymore but now a Pro+ for $699
@campitcher8507 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Kinn was changed to that name and the price increased by 400 bucks. No real changes to the product at all.
@pauld4238 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review of the Ergochair +. I have been looking at one for a bit and now I know it's probably not for me. But that desk though ... I gotta have one. Also, there's a weird audio issue at the 9:59 or 10:00 mark.
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i would have been more positive about it at the $400 price point, but $700 is really opens the market.
@DayoAworunse 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly (no pun intended), the desk looks incredible and really does stand out as a piece of decor. I might pick one up but already spent a leg for my fully desk. I don't see any links for what you used under the desk for cable management, what did you end up using specifically?
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Haha great eye. So I had this mesh thing already and decided to repurpose it as a cable holder - think of it like a giant pouch. I tried to find something comparable, but can only see this super overpriced thing amzn.to/2UKV3Bv. Then, I just used these cable hiders amzn.to/3kOmVzm with these cable tie down clips - amzn.to/36Z6Tui The only real problem is that a lot of this isn't paint friendly...so i expect to lose a lot of paint later, but i have a can of paint left over so can easily patch it up. Also, I had to leave a lot of slack out of the main power strip so it could extend from top to bottom which is why it doesnt look super clean, but compared to what it was before, I am totally good with it!
@mindsquint Жыл бұрын
The biggest con is that it creaks like old floorboards. Sure this chair is a stunner. It looks great. It's even fairly comfortable - not nearly as much as the marketing would have you believe but passable. It's just... Weirdly loud. Any movement at all and there's this loud creaking. Lean back? It's like you're relaxing on a ghost ship. Come back up? Is that a rickety bridge about to collapse? Barely shift in your seat? It's your own horror movie and guess who's at the door! All of this was tolerable considering how great this chair looks; until I started working from home. Every call. Every client. "What was THAT??" You know who doesn't care how nice your chair looks? Any of the dozen callers I talk to every day. I REALLY wish I'd returned the chair within the return window. Back when it was just me, the creaks, and my imagination. I finally just pushed the it to another side of the room. Such a waste.
@bplafond 2 жыл бұрын
What are the full dimensions of the desktop you got from MarcoPolo Woodworks? It looks nice!
@Ahnestly 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Mine was made to my requested dimensions 30" X 70" and 1" thick - but you can get it whatever l x w you want!
@SaltyMaud Жыл бұрын
Aka Merryfair Reya. Also found in Europe under HJH Skope name for a much more reasonable price.
@MakN. Жыл бұрын
Thanks, crazy the markup they charge
@tarps6396 3 жыл бұрын
are you still using the keycrhon k8, because that keycap set looks brilliant
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Yessir! These are actually pretty cheap white keycaps from Ducky that allow RGB to passthrough. I'll link you them if you're interested!
@frenchy79 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to take the same route (frame + my own top) but I don't know if I need to have different screws if the table top will be 1.5inch.. Any idea?
@Ahnestly 2 жыл бұрын
You can if you want, but I think the screws should be just fine.
@frenchy79 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly thank you. OK I wld just use the same then. Just want to make sure they'll be deep enough in to hold the block of wood I'll use.
@fullselfcontrol 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you have a Secretlab TITAN Evo 2022 Series coming your way? I'd be highly interested in an in-depth review since they have implemented better features for ergonomics with the new series, I am wondering if it's worth it. Thanks 😊
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! You should see a review in the next few weeks!
@fullselfcontrol 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly Amazing to hear! A part in which you compare the Titan 2022 to the Embody, Neue Chair... would be great too. Thanks for letting me know, can't wait for the video :)
@kerfluffle3781 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly Lol. Of course I find the confirmation of a review in the pipeline a few days after I ordered mine. Oh well.
@danieljoleby6376 7 ай бұрын
Is there any lumbar support?
@riccardocattozzo2579 3 жыл бұрын
Formerly knows as the Embody ripoff? Jokes aside, lovely setup and thank you for the discount code. I have an Aeron, looking into the Embody, probly not gonna spend 1200 for a HM Nevi desk, expecially because i want to choose a very deep tabletop. My main doubt was how low can these desks get? I dont want the armrests not to be aligned with the desk, and i sit in the Aeron at the lowest setting. THX
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
I believe I put that in the video in the max/min height section! I show what that looks like with me being 5'6 Min is 26" max is 51.6"
@riccardocattozzo2579 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly yeah yeah saw that part, still feel my armrests would have to be slightly too high for my taste. Will take some measurements with my current setup, HM Nevi goes as down as 65cm
@Mauglus 2 жыл бұрын
which carpet do you use? I am searching for a good carpet myself
@Ahnestly 2 жыл бұрын
LOL i get asked this question a lot! I'm making an office setup (going to be delayed as I'm pretty banged up right now) but should be out in the next week!
@yong5140 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know why but from 15:43 to 16:00 is awkwardly.... funny? Especially seeing Dan just kind of sit there 😂. Check out Dan and the guys out at The Blind Guys Channel for slightly better videos!
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Slightly better videos!!!
@ThePavin 2 жыл бұрын
Did they fix the super hard arm rests(
@dbakbak 3 жыл бұрын
David Zhang? Who's that? We talking about David Bak 😎 lets go @theblindguys!
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
LOL what
@LeBeautiful 3 жыл бұрын
The ErgoChair Pro+ is the 2.5 version..right?????
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha not really. totally different chair. It's a rebrand of their Kinn chair
@XxMissingDataxX 2 жыл бұрын
This chair or embody which one you going with?
@Ahnestly 2 жыл бұрын
Embody any day every day!!!
@jalabi99 2 жыл бұрын
What's that curly cable you used to plug the desk into the wall?
@Ahnestly 2 жыл бұрын
Curly cable? The only curly cable is on the keyboard
@jalabi99 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly at 0:51 if you look halfway between the legs of the table going down the wall right behind where your hands are is the cable I'm talking about. Your left hand is "touching" it. It also appears more clearly at 11:53 and from 11:36 to 15:15
@Ahnestly 2 жыл бұрын
@@jalabi99 ahh that’s not a curly cable! It’s the cable of the power strip but “curled up” so the table can extend without everything popping out of their sockets lol
@jalabi99 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly oh that makes sense! thanks!
@sndzlikestef 10 ай бұрын
have you done a video about your pc build??
@Ahnestly 10 ай бұрын
Hey! It’s not short, but the first few minutes will show the breakdown of parts. My DREAM PC Build is Complete - Lian Li O11, Intel 10900k, Asus Strix RTX 3090, Lian Li Strimers kzfaq.info/get/bejne/orxkprGGrKqoaI0.html I changed the fans out though, which is what you see on this video. Here’s a video on that Lian Li Unifan AL120 | They’re Freaking Gorgeous kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fb1jkqSLqp2XgZc.html
@Vilmir 3 жыл бұрын
I bet 10$ that Dan will talk about smell in this video. Not watched it yet.
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha I didn't. This one was a bit rushed bc I just got back from vacation
@Thepunki26 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about getting this chair and leaving my gaming chair, cause i need a ergonomic one.
@Ahnestly 2 жыл бұрын
Don't. Overpriced compared to what else is out there!
@Thepunki26 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly What option would you recommend?
@StardustLegacyFighter Жыл бұрын
@@Thepunki26 Depends on your budget and where you live.
@phillippia 9 ай бұрын
Just discovered the MayfairReya today. Looks like that is actually this chair, right? Autonomous rebranded someone else’s chair, right?
@Ahnestly 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think they rebranded someone else’s chair, I think it’s more like a factory makes a chair, and then brands can buy/brand it as they see fit. From what I know, companies can request changes from the factory default (aesthetic to functional), and then the difference between buying the chair from one company vs another would be the level of customer service/warranty. No different than buying a USB cables or phone cases.
@armandolimbo987 Жыл бұрын
ganda.. malapad yung upuan at sandalan.. kaso pag nag purchase online dito sa pinas napaka expensive nya.
@PaulSanz63 Жыл бұрын
ergochair pro+ or steelcase amia?
@Ahnestly Жыл бұрын
Never ever go ergochair pro+. Amia ALL the way
@vh5cker 2 жыл бұрын
what is that stool you are sitting on
@anaszakour61 3 жыл бұрын
Try to focus on budget alternative 600$ for a chair it's too much
@chualie 3 жыл бұрын
Where's your mousepad?
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for my glass topper to get here
@wavytoad9983 Жыл бұрын
$700!? It's $400 now.
@nssSmooge 3 жыл бұрын
I do not understand why would people need flexing in chair. You sit in one position and if u are fancy, you cross legg or something. But at that point you abadon any idea of eronomic. I think its there because the back rest is tall, i.e. above your shoulders and they would like to avoid the tall back pushing your shoulders I think. I have one this chair with tall back and its exactly what its doing, pushing my shoulders forward. On top of it, its concave.
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good question - the flex is subtle and it helps a bit with comfort. You said you liked the Aeron in your other comment. Well the Aeron being mesh, it flexes and contorts to your back. Fabric contorts too, but often times, they use a foam which doesn't contort as well and can cause soreness. The flexing of the chair when you stretch isn't necessary, but what's cool is that when you sit with the seat straight up, it actually has some give without the chair leaning back, which might work better for some people's necks (so you're not turtle necking as hard)
@nssSmooge 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly Good point, when I tried the Embody I felt that give is either reallly subtle, that I did not notice it, or I had to really push with my back (which I felt like that would be bad for me). I wish Aeron had normal sit pan. Even now I write this comment with one leg beneath my ass and other banded intron of me. Call me crazy, but in this position my hand stops hurting, the moment i sit "straight", my hand starts burning. Thats one reason i am looking for a better chair among other things.
@stugryffin3619 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Lord Jesus that chair is 599 pounds :-o
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man...pricey pricey
@iHustleLXXXI 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that I would go with the Kinn chair. I have the Logitech Embody chair and I don’t see a need to change the chair. I will however collect more HM chairs though. Dan! I would love to see some videos on the Cosm or the Setu chair. They are the next two chairs I would want to buy. Thanks.
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
Haha i'll try for sure...maybe i'll tackle those next after my steelcase videos!
@pbfamous07 3 жыл бұрын
imagine how many cushions you could buy for $600euros no thanks.
@ACallander22 3 жыл бұрын
Great video but man sad that a small creator can provide more of a discount than a huge company that makes rip off rebranded chairs. Greedy greedy
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
One day....one day....
@ACallander22 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ahnestly we hope, I just won’t support a company like that. I mean Herman Miller provides 10% to 15% and they are way bigger.
@jupatj24 3 жыл бұрын
That's ahnestly an Embody knock-off. Sorry.
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, love how you spelled ahnestly correctly. Second, it's the slightly rich person's embody, since $700 is still really expensive!
@ordep810 3 жыл бұрын
Ergochair pro is trash, seat is sooo hard cuz you bottom it out and sit on the bottom plastic.
@Ahnestly 3 жыл бұрын
This is the ergochair pro+. it's a different chair
@StardustLegacyFighter 2 жыл бұрын
Autonomous chairs are cheap Chinese garbage that are re-branded from what OEMs manufacture.
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