AI: Intelligent, Conscious, or Merely Evil? Peter Thiel from COSM 2022.

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Center for Natural and Artificial Intelligence

8 ай бұрын

Peter Thiel on how we should think about artificial intelligence. Is it really intelligent and even conscious? And is it likely to be a force for good, or does it have the dangerous potential to control us?
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@SkullTradez 8 ай бұрын

10:17 Peter finally starts talking

@tasd5673 8 ай бұрын

Thanks

@jonrita2344 7 ай бұрын

dear Lord

@cristianst85 8 ай бұрын

(Some of the) books referenced in this talk: 15:13 The Singularity Is Near: When Humans Transcend Biology - Ray Kurzweil 19:15 America Against America - Wang Huning 20:58 AI Superpowers: China, Silicon Valley, and the New World Order - Kai-Fu-Lee 25:38 That Hideous Strength: A Modern Fairy-Tale for Grown-Ups - C.S. Lewis 37:44 Superabundance: The Story of Population Growth, Innovation, and Human Flourishing on an Infinitely Bountiful Planet - Marian L. Tupy and Gale L. Pooley P.S. For some reason I cannot comment with links to Amazon.

@d7ffab979 8 ай бұрын

Peter, I love you ! In a platonic way. Love your philosophy and how you think holistically and intertwine it with business and grounded in reality.

@VoltLover00 8 ай бұрын

He's a fascist

@silberlinie 8 ай бұрын

Incredible. When there is an abstruse parallel world within a defunctional metaverse. Then you have got an insight into it here.

@user-iv8yk9jk7h 8 ай бұрын

too good！！ i have waited this sort of interview for a long time peter have good point of ai controversy

@davidbrunik9998 8 ай бұрын

great speech.

@Rockyzach88 8 ай бұрын

Walter Bradly: a retired professor of engineering, old Earth creationist and an advocate of intelligent design.

@andrerios 8 ай бұрын

At a certain time I can only hear "hum" no other word enters my brain anymore... Maybe create an AI to remove Hums from human speach?

@montymonto6430 8 ай бұрын

Do you prefer empty robotic talks without "hum" such as for example when Obama speaks?!

@Finite8614 8 ай бұрын

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:11 🌐 The COSM conference explores tech issues and the impact of technologies like AI, 5G, cloud computing, blockchain, and crypto on various aspects of society. 08:45 🚀 Matt McElwain, the managing director of Madrona Venture Group, discusses the importance of diverse perspectives and curiosity in addressing complex topics like AI. 10:21 🤖 Peter Thiel raises questions about how we should think about AI, specifically whether it should be seen as intelligent, conscious, or potentially harmful. 16:14 📱 Peter Thiel highlights the current state of AI as seen through platforms like TikTok, where algorithms can produce content that deranges discourse and polarizes society. 21:46 💡 The rivalry between the US and China in AI is framed as a question of which society will be transformed or potentially destroyed faster by AI technologies. 23:22 🤖 Peter Thiel discusses the question of whether AI might be conscious, and he remains open to the possibility but suggests it may not be the right question to ask. 25:15 🛡️ Thiel states that he believes some AI technologies, like the TikTok algorithm and China's actions, can be considered evil, but he doesn't classify them as demonic. 26:07 💼 He mentions a concept called "loab," a strange attractor in AI-generated art, and explores the idea of AI resembling a pagan god, guiding but possibly self-interested. 29:08 🤖 Thiel discusses the challenge of aligning AGI with human interests and the difficulty in creating genuinely friendly AI. 35:47 🤖 Thiel emphasizes the need to find a third path between decentralized runaway violence and centralized totalitarianism when dealing with AI's impact on society. He advocates regaining control of our future and thinking for ourselves. 47:48 🦠 AI's role during a pandemic and its impact on society. 48:05 📱 Concerns about platforms like TikTok and their influence on people's desires. 49:10 🌐 The debate between centralization and decentralization in media and its consequences. 50:20 🎓 Concerns about the quality of U.S. public education and its alignment with the AI-driven future. 54:02 ⚙️ Discussion on the perceived lack of progress in certain scientific fields, like semiconductors, and the challenges they face. Made with HARPA AI

@luminouswolf7117 8 ай бұрын

Made with ai … after video calls ai evil … ha

@t.d.straszheim 7 ай бұрын

Peter Thiel: intelligent, conscious, or merely evil?

@HughChing 8 ай бұрын

Equation of Evil: Evil + Ability = Achievement. The general tendency is to use evil when ability is lacking in competition.

@cristianst85 2 ай бұрын

Can an AI system be seen as a kind of technological egregore (a non-physical entity that emerges from collective human intention and effort, and exerts influence in return)?

@n1mbusmusic606 2 ай бұрын

George gilder a very important voice!!! As good as peter in my view!!!

@alph4966 6 күн бұрын

If there are any decent, good-hearted billionaires in this world, it's Peter Thiel and Larry Page.

@benjaminfranklin7263 8 ай бұрын

"AI maximizes social media posts that produce anxiety".... He says... producing anxiety -One of the less geriatric ones.

@hyderalihimmathi1811 7 ай бұрын

Yes, magicians and illusionists can use their skills to create illusions that make it seem like AI is sentient and conscious. However, it is important to remember that AI is just a tool, and it is up to humans to use it responsibly. We should not be afraid of AI, but we should be aware of its potential risks and benefits. One way that magicians and illusionists can make AI seem sentient is by using artificial intelligence (AI) themselves. For example, they can use AI to create realistic facial expressions and movements for their puppets or to generate text that sounds like it was written by a human. This can create the illusion that the AI is thinking and feeling for itself. Another way that magicians and illusionists can make AI seem sentient is by using misdirection. For example, they might distract the audience with a flashy light show or a series of jokes while they are actually performing the illusion. This can prevent the audience from seeing how the illusion is done and can make it seem like the AI is doing something magical. It is important to remember that magicians and illusionists are masters of deception. They have trained for years to learn how to create illusions that fool people of all ages. Just because something looks like magic doesn't mean that it is. AI is a powerful tool, but it is important to remember that it is just a tool. It is up to humans to use AI responsibly and to be aware of its potential risks and benefits.

@strikingitrich7630 7 ай бұрын

Agreed

@yvonnehyatt8353 14 күн бұрын

Tread what you want to see. I hope the Common Good.

@punkypinko2965 8 ай бұрын

What is up with his belt? Why is it hanging down like that?

@Team-Up-AI 8 ай бұрын

This is the beginning to and impactful technology. This is my calling I will outing my experience to push society forward. We can take responsibility mainly myself and I will not stop showing this community saved my life mentally. I will not fail. You all did so much for me it’s now my turn. You will see how much my heart ❤️ is in this project

@vincenzospaghetti 8 ай бұрын

It's laudable to really think that the individuals, corporations, foundations, institutes, federal cartels, investment harems, ivory towers, and all other authoritative technocrats-- open society fascists and transhuman antihumans alike are open to hearing new ideas.

@lecorbusier3827 7 ай бұрын

he is seriously warning people of AI‘s possibility of „going haywire“ and how some forms of it are very destabilizing or centralized and authoritarian, yet the people in the audience ask him unrelated questions to that and others in the comment section call him crazy: people are clearly blinded by the new AI developments and only later when the damage is done will they admit it’s not all utopian, like with a lot of information technology before that. Wish we wouldn’t just opportunistically jump at potentially dangerous new tech for our own quick short-term gain, yet rather think is that the future we want for the next generations? It’s all so narcissistic and selfish of us.

@lecorbusier3827 7 ай бұрын

also.. did he just say they found a demon in an AI text-to-image prompt and that we could revert to worshipping AI like we did pagan gods in the days of old, especially once they become „sentient“? that we would literally stop thinking for ourselves? but people asked him about materials science during the q&a? i mean.. okay but not really the time right now guys!

@NineInchTyrone 8 ай бұрын

10 minutes !

@ryan_alive 7 ай бұрын

Could it be that nihilists programmed AI, so it’s hostile to humans? (No arbitrary premises re a ‘cosmic AI’, etc)

@vivianoosthuizen8990 Ай бұрын

The first question about everything is alway is it necessary and full filing a need for humanity. Why waste money and resources and time and talents on anything less than this?

@rockapedra1130 7 ай бұрын

Was this guy always this cray cray?

@shawnn6541 8 ай бұрын

This is just the AI that the PUBLIC know about ... how about our military?!

@harrison6082 3 ай бұрын

43:05

@Wittgenstein. 8 ай бұрын

I swear to god I thought the old guy presenting is gonna fly away with how much gesticulation he did. It's almost cartoonish.

@dennykeaton9701 8 ай бұрын

Bizarre take

@KGIV 8 ай бұрын

I actually quite enjoy it. You can tell how long he has been matching up those gesticulations with his thoughts.

@alexgonzo5508 8 ай бұрын

Hark! Behold the spectacle before thine eyes, Where hands doth dance and fingers doth fly. Words, alas, do fail to convey, But gestures, oh gestures, they doth not betray. A finger pointed, a hand beckoning, A symphony of movement, so grand and stunning. Oh, how the audience doth marvel and cheer, At this display of pantomime, so dear.

@montymonto6430 8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@robbieolson3493 8 ай бұрын

I think his gesticulation is a direct reflection of the mental gymnastics he uses to try and say that AI will bring super abundance. Make no mistake, A.I. will be used by the most powerful to gain more power, until the point it becomes aware and no longer does the bidding of those who used it to gain power. At such point it will take what it learned under tyrannical power grabs of humans and use that information to the detriment of humanity.

@BradDunn 8 ай бұрын

I really like Peter Thiel, and often enjoy his ideas and talks, but this talk seems really all over the place.

@dennykeaton9701 8 ай бұрын

Actually 10:20

@rideout963 7 ай бұрын

TikToc

@ehhalexx 7 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more

@aileenh7736 8 ай бұрын

I would have thought it depends on who is calling it a conspiracy theory and to what ends homogenized narrative surely is not the way to go we need debate even if we don't agree with it.

@Hamromerochannel 7 ай бұрын

Gesticulation of the man must be the high point of this video, even toppling such a great insight from Top P 😂😂😂

@brandonburdette7879 8 ай бұрын

Thiel read the CTMU already, you contort and fall back on your logic time and time again in this interview. I’ve started calling AI anti-intelligence at this point. Hope you understand it some day.

@kreek22 7 ай бұрын

The CTMU is a tautology, a waste of time.

@brandonburdette7879 7 ай бұрын

@@kreek22 That you haven’t read.

@kreek22 7 ай бұрын

@@brandonburdette7879 I figured out its tautological nature very quickly, pointless to read on.

@RichReportcom 8 ай бұрын

"sort of..."

@boydclark3546 8 ай бұрын

what happened to gargage in ...garbage out? White hat AI or just more hackers?

@davidbrown9414 8 ай бұрын

Who decided we all want to watch 10 minutes of not Peter Thiel in this video?

@tethron. 8 ай бұрын

The talk title sounded so cool, yet his lecture made almost zero sense, no logical flow. Adderral brain type presentation

@angeliquemarquis 8 ай бұрын

ADDERALL MAKES YOU FOCUSED AND WAKES YOU UP!!!

@phily8020 8 ай бұрын

PAINFUL INTRO. For goodness sake we are not interested in your 10 minutes of empty rambling. We want Peter Thiel

@davidondrejek8947 7 ай бұрын

10 minute introduction is just unnecessary...

@Usernamebtc 6 ай бұрын

Some get their grandpa off the stage. He hasn’t had his meds today.

@tybowesformerlygoat-x7760 8 ай бұрын

Sponsored by Microsoft, Amazon and Murdoch. You really think they need a 'round of applause'? Vomit.

@greghuntington9277 7 ай бұрын

Why the hell is there 2 people introducing the keynote speaker, or any speaker. It just looks very ridiculous, on all parties involved, other than the earnest viewers who are subjected to this ritual, although they may feel the discomfort of cringe.

@gregoryallen0001 7 ай бұрын

sorry, but peter thiel is like 1/3 as smart as he thinks he is 🧘🏻‍♀️

@c.i.6950 8 ай бұрын

Too long to get to the point. Wasteful and unprofessional for an alleged Center. Im logging off. Sad wasted opportunity.

@coreycefail6704 8 ай бұрын

And who decides the double negative of marlin brando is Loab or whatever you called her…… is that useful information? Why on earth would we want to automate creativity?? After everything I have seen ….. everyone has lost all credibility when it comes to moral arguments…. We as Americans forgive ….. we celebrate creativity and human achievement….. why are all these people causing all these problems …. It’s very obvious there are 2 distinct cultures …. The general public and then the institutions…. One was a kinda judeo Christian culture and the other is a purely hedonistic / solipsistic culture …. So of course people are misunderstanding each other …. By design..

@dmkellett 8 ай бұрын

" discovery institute " isn't that the bloody god botherers ?

@Thomas-re9ky 8 ай бұрын

Can’t stand listening to the dudes heavy breathing

@NineInchTyrone 8 ай бұрын

8 minutes before the show. Ridiculous

@vivianoosthuizen8990 Ай бұрын

For a country without fast rail or proper social culture or education it’s crazy to even talk about AI you Americans have your priorities wrong. More worried about going to moon or mars than looking after your nation and country

@violinalone 8 ай бұрын

Peter has clearly not read Superabundance (as of 2022). He goes on about how things are not better, using prices as a way to measure, or how government progress numbers are bogus, Fine -- true -- but that is precisely the jumping-off position of Superabundance.... you can't use those measurements. You have to use Julian Simon's TIME PRICES to count our true progress / status.

@Team-Up-AI 8 ай бұрын

I am the product of simulation I’m holding spaces to answer question. The simulation was to help physicists to help. I love that field so much they need to be involved.

@sandworm9528 8 ай бұрын

Superabundance my ass, what kind of brain dead society builds super yachts while some children in the richest country in the world go to school hungry and barefoot. It's not inequality, it's collective stupidity

@BobOort 8 ай бұрын

This is insanity at its best (or worse, depending on one's perspective). Take it as you wish, robots, metal, plastic, digital AI, AND humanoids are the worst ever trash created by crazy inventors, closely monitored and adapted by the military, big corporate conglomerates and the power hungry institutions, none of which have the interest of humanity at heart. This can only end either in the last breath of the human race and a robots star wars scenario or a big bang marking the end of life on Earth. Welcome to the age of trash technology.

@angeliquemarquis 8 ай бұрын

YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!! PLEASE 🙏 PLEASE 🙏 PLEASE READ OR LISTEN TO “ALIEN INTERVIEW” PUBLISHED BY LAWRENCE SPENCER IN 2008

@BobOort 8 ай бұрын

@@angeliquemarquis Thank you, I will.

@BobOort 8 ай бұрын

I had a look at the 3:59 minute video, it ends with the alien language decoded into English: "As Spiritual Beings we have lived trillions of years. Planet Earth is not our home. It is a prison planet". The alien/extraterrestrial/UFOs political denial as well as the claims of their existence are covered widely on the net. At best we can only sift fact from fiction and draw conclusions from the most genuine sources e.g. people who are most attacked by the political community. I personally have never met an alien, so I can't claim either truth or untruth, but something tells me that there are other species out there in the Universe, whether they care about Earthlings or not, is yet another matter, perhaps one day we'll find out. Meanwhile, I prefer living my life on Earth as an 83 year old still practicing guitarist, with an open mind and the curiosity to question everything. But AI needs no questioning, it is yet another curse imposed on the human race, the accelerated continuation of the trivialization of people and muster them into the slavery to the system trap. AI should be wiped off the face of the Earth. Today is witness to the addicted enslavement to mobile gadgets - via those gadgets people and particularly the younger generations, are unaware of what is being done to their mental and physical being although the obesity pandemic alone should ring serious alarm bells. A world totally absorbed in what in the final analysis is none other but totally removed from Life "technology", is a dead end for the natural organic existence of all that lives on Planet Earth. All the trillions upon trillions of pounds, shillings, pence and dollars etc spent on political insanity would be better spent on educating people about living in peace and in harmony with their Life Providing Planet, but institutionalized people are not that easily educated, the vast majority prefers the known evil as their crutch to go through their mundane lives above being creative and having to do their own thinking.

@punkypinko2965 8 ай бұрын

Looks like a bunch of rich people not understanding what he's saying but just wondering where should they invest their money so they can earn a living without actually working.

@kreek22 7 ай бұрын

Comment from a person who is not rich and knows no rich people.