Best thing that has, and ever will come out of AI is the song “I glued my balls to my butthole again” Change my mind

Hey dude, I'm still fighting over the compensation issue. We don't compensate the bands we have been inspired with to create our music.. Why should a.i.?

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@@roboverholt9959 AI using an existing artist's work is more akin to sampling than it is to just being influenced by

I just going to mention that ElevenLabs just showed of their new music generator,that is much better than both UDIO and SUNO.

Its the listeners decision to listen to AI music or real musicians. Corporate cant control what you want to listen to, so just dont listen to it

no ones gonna listen to AI, a big part of the music industry is about making an artist people look up to etc. think taylor swift, kanye, even michael jackson

@@KiLLJOY1056 but they do. It's called marketing. You are approaching this argument as a musician or as a person that has some kind of music culture. But 90% of the people on this planet consume music as a passive form of entertainment, mostly for dancing or to keep it in the background while doing other things. You are not the target of the music industry, you are a niche market. The real question is, will in the future this niche market be big enough to sustain itself or original music will be mostly turn into an hobby? And I'm talking about pure musicians, not like here on youtube or twitch were the job profile is video makers that make entertainment for musicians.

Good point. I remember watching the movie called Simone released in 2002. It stared Al Pacino who was a director that was sick of dealing with diva actresses. He got connected with a software guy that made an AI actress for him. No doubt the majors would be happy to get rid of their superstars and all of their problems if they could.

@@CheesyMez In Japan virtual singers that do live concerts using holograms have been a thing for more than a decade now. They have a huge market and they are also becoming more popular in the west. The Masses don't need a real human, they need a character.

This comment deserves more likes and more people should watch this anime. I'd also say Pluto is a solid tertiary anime about the larger implications of artificial intelligence.

rad

Thanks for the tip.

Sam, your AI guitarist…

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yoo, what the actual.. this is rly weird

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I, perhaps naively, agree with this. It will gradually lead people to more live music as more and more people use AI.

Any type except one it hasn't heard before

ok, but this cycle will take about 30 years to go through and by then will have bigger problems in the world we'll be dealing with

For regular people you're probably right. But corporate executives, and shareholders don't care about that. They care about money, and they run the world. Even if we don't use it, every single thing they produce will be soulless, generative, and empty. Not just art, but also every productive job there is. We're all being replaced, and in a just world that would destroy these companies, but I have my doubts about it being a just world.

yeah except music and movies have been fake as fuck for 30 years and nobody gives a shit

Very true

until u get a usb-dopamine adapter integrated into ur brain

Money. Money money money.

Imagine if real musicians (not the wannabe-popstar kind) could actually earn their living by playing music on a stage to an audience. They would have nothing to fear from AI. Oh wait... 😊

Hell, it’ll be fun to use some AI trickery if you’re creative.

yup. and i appreciate ai

majority of people don't care about that though.

@StaticR wise words

Playing music generated by AI...

That was lame bro

Or it will just be flooded with this

All human labor will be replaced by AI. Billions will be left to starve and die. The only jobs available for humans will be washing toilets, scrubbing floors, picking tomatoes, etc., that is if it will prove to be cheaper done by humans than manufacture robots to do those chores.

Nah, the AI songwriters will all be locked behind annual subscriptions.

It's not just artists. It's everyone who works for a living. Businesses may not be able to pull it off, but that's absolutely what they want.

On the contrary, I'd be more concerned with it being full of people using AI prompts to complete orders instead. =/

Overclock me again? Just one more time? I"m good for it

AI: Artificial Inebriation

That almost sounds like the plot of a South Parl episode 😂

LOL. Like the drum machine in Dethklok.

It's been partying and caught a virus.

Excellent comment!

I have been thinking the same thing. If AI becomes the best “musician” in the world who cares. People who actually pay for music want to hear music made by humans. That is our market.

What if musicians become lazy and play AI generated music?

I like your optimism.

Absolutely felt this watching the first live performance of “I Glued My Balls to My Butthole Again.”

Well said.

I think AI could be interesting from a strictly Duchamp Readymades view. A while back I was playing with an AI image generator and I was feeding it nonsense concepts like fish shaped toaster. It mainly produced garbage, but made one image that looked as if it was a Williams Sonoma catalog snap. I think a fun piece of Dada would be a catalog of fictitious housewares products generated from prompts. I suppose the ad copy would need similar generation, and getting the joke across might prove hard.

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Hope so

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@@emilelesaffre that's something that I hope, the over proliferation of AI music might make people go and enjoy live music

Playing AI generated music...

Can i still use a drum machine as I don't have a drummer 🥁 😊

Its crazy, imagine if a person looked at something on the internet and then remembered it and then created something vaguely similar from memory! Its lucky humans cant do this. Im glad humans cant create fake profiles or say things that arent true or use photoshop to create fake images. We must stop AI!

There is nothing ethical about AI developers. They have stolen centuries long through blood, sweat and tears created human culture without devising a mechanism to guard humanity from the dangers ensuing, that will make them billions, rendering all artists dead or living irrelevant.

One of the best takes I've read about AI art, thank you for this

This is very true I was just watching Norway chess and of course they have the engine bar showing the evaluation. It was still fun watching humans make mistakes

unless you are affected in some way by it, then shouldn't let it bother you. they wouldn't take a second look on the news of AI taking a normal job.

@@GhostWriter_Music bruh, why else do you think I brought it up lol, that's my job.

@@powerowl2120 well you said "them" referring to those who do the work and not "us" which would refer to them and you.

@@GhostWriter_Music okay Einstein semantics aside you still haven't offered anything of substance. Just stop replying and go about your life. If you have nothing important to say just keep it to yourself

@@GhostWriter_Music and regardless, just because it doesn't affect me directly doesn't mean I should ignore it. You ever read the famous poem "first they came"? It's all about letting others be swept away by a force because you perceive it to be a non-threat to you, but once it comes for you it dawns on you that there is nobody left to save you, you let them all down, and thus they will be nowhere to be found. I'd rather do what I think is right rather than plug my senses and let the world burn

Yes, that's correct. Only, now apply that same line of thinking to every kind of productive work that people do, not just art. If it can replace artists, then it can certainly replace normal job labor. We're on a very ugly path.

People stopped buying music and the money ran out. Everyone gets it for free, Spotify is music theft basically, only the big music corporations get decent rates. Society is in serious trouble... No money to develop bands anymore...

Bands always fight each other too. Little entitled bitches arguing over something petty....Or having 5 guys and hoping that 1 of them doesn't implode with drugs or whatever. Those little whiners made it go that way.

I play in a band that has a lead guy. He is THE MAN...on acoustic and vocals. I love him. We all do. And he gets the gigs and promotes them. We are payed average. Sometimes a little better. ......"but"....😅.... He really does not let us shine like we could because....as much as we love him (and need the money)...The fact is that, he has that "I am the big star and you are just hired" attitude. And we are all friends? So we won't be playing Peaches en Regalia.. Or anything slightly jazzy or progressive. He will not be saying to the audience "Now let me show you what these guys can do!"..... Nope. Stick to the formula! So as I say. End of solo NOW!!!!!

The music biz sucked from the very beginning.

Crafted with AI.

Yup. That's depressing And as an artist, I've lost my illustrator job because of midjourney.

The future is bleak

Really ???​@@smthnew861

I doubt it tbh. Yes that will definitely happen, but directors are artists too and they’ll appreciate real music

@@horusgaming8797 maybe today's directors are artists too...

Then what about the first musicians? It had to start somewhere.

@@ganglestank this might be completely wrong and dumb, but ... maybe they copied bird song?

@@lurakin88 I don't think that's dumb at all. In fact, I think that could very well have been one of the things that inspired the first musicians

What I take from other artists is rarely just copying; sometimes it's doing the exact opposite of what I hear, or just seeing someone break a pattern and trying to come up with my own way of breaking that pattern. Or maybe I see someone doing something interesting in a drawing and wonder "what's analogous to this in music?" Or I get ideas out of some self-imposed challenge or restriction. Or I fuck around on an instrument or twist random knobs on a synth until I find something cool. Or I hear a wacky noise in nature and sample it. Or I just want to express an experience in my life. Art isn't just made by mashing up other art, it also comes from the real world. What I had for breakfast today probably factors into my art in ways I can't even realize.

​@@ganglestank😮 the first musicians were copying the sounds they heard in nature animals making and all that kind of s*** then we remixed it into the first human music😮 also would you call human music is just copying all the weird s*** and sounds created from auditory hallucinations when you're tripping on mushrooms and other psychedelics so really human music has always been a copy of mushrooms and plants and s*** like that😮 and if you really taken mushrooms or DMT you'd begin to understand we don't have culture we stole all of our ideas from mushrooms and plants😮 and now robot are going to steal all of our ideas from us this is just nature guys

Cinema is dying due to streaming though…

@@Flyingwithoutmings And television has been dead for ages. Anyway, none of those examples mentioned above are remotely close to being as dangerous as AI. Soon enough, as AI improves at an astonishing rate, we won't be able to discern what is real and what is not real.

@@TieNylon that’s already happening!

Social media is literally dooming us tho

The examples from past you've mentioned are irrelevant in this case because those were the distribution technologies. AI is the creative technology.

"composers for film and big tv series" I'd agree with you here if it weren't for the fact that most modern soundtracks have been Zimmer-fied into being textures rather than songs. I doubt the big blockbuster movies will move to AI in this regard anytime soon as the composer can sometimes be as big of a drawing card as the director or an actor but I think we'll see it in a lot of films and tv shows.

It's also going to get its absolute crap together making radio jingles now that they've licked a lot of the voice glitching problem.

Yeah, finally the shroud has come off of SamurAI. I've had my suspicions for a while.

I cannot perceive any hope no matter what.

He's a youtuber... If he made his living purely from writing of playing music, he wouldn't be so blasé

It will generate more money and listens and will never need to busk.

@@laartwork I'm not talking about money or "hit counts". I'm talking about live performances where you can physically see the musicians playing and holding instruments. Ai cannot do that.

@@nd6286 Vocaloid, and the Gorrillaz have been doing live holo-performances for a while now. Theystill sll tickets.

@@nd6286 But you do realize that it will put everyone who doesn't do live performances out of a job, right?

@@hireathecho4 can I say that with absolute certainy, I don't think I can but, I'd be lying if I said that It didn't truly concern me.

Yes! That point isn’t mentioned enough. It all started as a hobby for anyone working in an artistic field. Not only that but real art, made by real people has the ability to inspire others. Put yourself in the shoes of a kid growing up around that technology… A kid in the 70’s might hear The Beatles on the radio and go : “Mom! I want a guitar for Christmas” But who exactly is a kid, born in 2030, listening to the top 40 generated pop songs supposed to relate to? If there isn’t a human in sight for them to identify with, what even is the point? What have we gained from that technology that we didn’t already have with real people? It’s just quantity, at the cost of everything else…

yes but thats about it

@@The1QwertySky Still a pretty important difference…. Also, are you really sure you can’t think of anything else?

It's what makes it worth listening to, worth learning, worth aspiring to. It's the difference between "oh my" and "oh well"

Fine when you just do music. If you wanna sell it usually your clients care about the output not about your fun. 😅

Remember that's what your grandparents said about YOUR top 10 list.

Yeah 90% of artists will just turn a blind eye and say it's the worst thing in the world without even contemplating the future and how it is going to have an impact whether they like it or not.

Why ? You think it's bullshit ? Just curious

@@rigodon97 unfortunately, it’s the same as art that’s drawn digitally/ traditionally. We say it was impossible for the machine to do these things, yet years later we will find ourselves weeping, desperately clinging to what makes us unique, and the void will not respond

@@rigodon97 also, notice how he changed the title of the video, he KNOWS Ai will take over as well

You are totally right. All human culture has to be protected. The good news is that AI music can be defeated. There is a legal battle that is going on, because AI music is illegal, since the CEO of Udio & co don't pay for the copyrighted training data they use. There is little to zero probability that the theft will be declared fair use in the case of music. So we don't even need new legislation to win. The bad news is that justice is slow.

This is different than everything else that has come before. AI will rob humans of the _creative process_ which will turn them into cucumbers.

i mean if you want to have your job replace then that's on you but i personally wouldnt like it

Most people aren't seeking that out now though. If anything, mainstream music is going in the opposite direction and I don't see why that would change. Most listeners don't care whether the backing track to a pop, hip-hop, or R&B song was played by real musicians or created using samples. Nor do they care how much autotune was used on the vocals and whether the singers are lipsyncing on stage. Pretty soon, most popular music will just involve record labels picking out attractive people with no musical training and ability who's entire role will be to lipsynch on stage to music created by AI.

@@alans98989 As long as I get some good music to listen to I absolutely don't care how it was made and how it was performed. I only need a pleasant sound in my ears.

@@SkinnyBlackout Exactly how I feel as well

@@SkinnyBlackoutyou must not be a musician then

@@Flyingwithoutmings Played guitar for 16 years. It doesn't matter how much effort is put into creating something as long as the end product is good. If the effort was the main selling point of art everyone would just listen to their own music and look at their own paintings. What matters is the result, and how it resonates with your personality.

Do you send me that comment again, but handwritten? 🤔

@@samthesomniator what? Lol

AI will eventually figure out how to mimic "soul", whatever the hell that is.

I like your optimism. Pretty sure no, but I wish you were right.

And I think that is the greatest gift A.I. can give us.

It will eventually take up difficult physical jobs, it's just the robotics needed to do that is a harder problem to solve. It's much easier to stay solely in the digital domain.

@@pvanukoff And in the meantime, everyone else can have their work taken from them.

@@DougRobertson Yeah pretty much.

why

not judging just interested

The US Supreme Court ruled awhile ago that any "art" made with AI cannot be copyrighted because no human element went into it. So why? Only idiots say this stupid shit.

No. Time to regulate AI and agree on its ethical use

"Making music" my ass, poser.

Well spoken, though as someone who's big into generative modular synths I have to disagree slightly with your last point. Some of the patches I've heard have been very emotional, and the only human influence in them is setting parameters like key and tempo

@@v1k1n6music Thanks, I appreciate the comment back and I understand what you are saying - for the record, I am not against technology in art and I have used and manipulated samples, loops, effects and synths all throughout my music productions - some of the generative modular sounds I have heard do indeed invoke emotions but for me they tend to evoke alien or surreal emotions almost like an impression of an emotion most of the times I find it personally unsettling. I am not denying that there aren't algorithmic tools or instruments that are beneficial to music creation in it's current state - and I love effecting sound in natural and unnatural ways as much as the next producer. When people got up in arms about the lost John Lennon "Beatles" song - I wasn't really upset with it, because the tool is actually a really cool use case for AI and the music was legitimately human. It wasn't a great song by any means (I actually prefer the original demo as is - there is something to be said for the archival aesthetic of a demo tape). But on the large whole of things I still think of effects as supplementary to the actual music - at least that is how it works for me, that is how I get my best reflections. I prefer the stuff I write outside of the box - but there is no denying that playing in a DAW is a fun and easy way to sketch ideas quickly. All that said - when I am speaking of using technology to do all the work, I was more speaking to the songs that samuraiguitarist produced out of thin air. The theme song sounds good enough to pass muster as an actual song - I think that music created in this way is inherently dishonest (even if the artist is upfront about using it) - because it isn't human. It is kind of like a really glorified version of the Cut Up method employed by William S. Burroughs on Naked Lunch (and countless others in many different mediums), but where as his generated content was used by chaotically cut together his own content - AI generated content is creating messages out generations of other humans artwork. Any true artist knows that they are going to take influence and reflect back to some degree some of what inspires them - but we have been living in a time where it seems like we are collectively becoming ok with plagiarism by way of convenience. It will be interesting to watch to see how this plays out - I can't wait for the first truely AI produced hit song. Who gets the credit? How is the money distributed? Can it compete in general categories with other actual real music in an award show? I got no skin in the game - I make my music with my hands and my heart, and have with my band for 25 years and will continue to do so regardless of whatever the industry or humanity is doing at any given moment.

So you mean it sounds like rap music or the latest Taylor Swift formulaic trash?

Just because _you_ have had issues with change-ups or whatever, and generating repetitive songs, doesn't mean that everyone else has those issues too..

Erm… the sticky sweethearts would like a word with you….

erm everything if it's ai and technology, companies like Alphabet and countries like Japan are 10 yrs ahead of what we have available right now

I really don't get why they didn't train the ai on individual instruments first. cos if they did that, and found some way to teach music theory, then it would still produce the same shit, but artists wouldn't be able to complain about it. music isn't an individuals creation anymore, its the work of 10 different people, and their stuff still sounds mediocre.

I posted some A.I. stuff because it's way better right than youtubers examples kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7llqpqpyJ7KkYU.htmlsi=C46UkknzwiTWsHqs

3 months. check back then, 3 years is way too long.