Ajit Doval, R.N. Kao, many unsung spymasters & India's intelligence evolution

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As January 20, 2023 marks the 78th birthday of NSA Ajit Doval & death anniversary of R.N. Kao, founder of RAW, Shekhar Gupta, in episode 923 of #CutTheClutter, published on 20 January, 2022, traces India's intelligence evolution and its unsung spymasters. Who were B. N. Mullik, R. N. Kao, Girish 'Gary' Saxena and the many unsung ones.
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@venukizhakkethil1854 Жыл бұрын

Remember the Villains too along with the heroes. You should have mentioned Morarji Desai's crippling of RAW during 1977-79. His decisions set RAW back by atleast a decade in the matter of retaining old sources and developing new ones.

@manojchandran6834 Жыл бұрын

Gujral in the 90s did more damage than Morarji.

@pavy999 Жыл бұрын

@venukizhakkethil1854 Personally I know very well of that too.

@uditabhattacharya2824 Жыл бұрын

why? link some sources too plz

@rbyogin3614 Жыл бұрын

PVN Rao deserve a Bharat Ratna.. A minority gov handle india difficult time..

@ca.avilashsingh Жыл бұрын

One of the best episode on Indian intelligence- Thank you SG for reminding and also introducing us (in a few cases) to India's unsung Heroes !!

@everuttejon9886 Жыл бұрын

.Where is Make In India???..India- China trade 136 billions dollars last year 2022 and trade deficit was 118 billions dollars. It means India lost 118 billions dollars last year....British slaves Indians and nations trust too much American propaganda with fake news all the times against China , North Korea and Russia now so India will never be a super power in future....Mao did not kill any people.. KMT and American puppet leaders killed millions of innocent people so Mao and CCP liberated mainland China from American puppets leaders like Chiang Kai Shek etc...

@rukmanikridshnan6338 Жыл бұрын

One famous and highly rated officer who worked closely with Shri R.N.Kao duting the 1971 war with Pak namely Sri Sankaran Nair, IP has been surprisingly missed out .He went on to become the chief of the RAW during the Janata Party regime headed by Sri Morarji Desai , only to resign later when the stature of the post was lowered to that of Director.

@SrinivasaRaoVVSRao Жыл бұрын

For the very reason, His name might have been omitted....I presumably observe

@surajbiradar9827 Жыл бұрын

Yes after kao he was the best man in R&AW

@Stallion_1044 Жыл бұрын

Desai was on ISI payroll

@rukmanikridshnan6338 Жыл бұрын

@@surajbiradar9827 he was equally good, with his operational expertise on Pakistan, but always a grounded man with no airs.

@pavy999 Жыл бұрын

Not many know but my Grand Father was one of the greatest civil servants and intelligence officers the country has ever produced he is none other than MV Narayan Rao . DGP of Andhra Pradesh State.

@pavy999 Жыл бұрын

@@msdadsfsx Please stop trolling this is someone in my family at that TIME and not about me. Thankyou.

@pavy999 Жыл бұрын

@@msdadsfsx my very own Grandfather

@pavy999 Жыл бұрын

@@msdadsfsx i have better respect than you do. Thankyou very much.

@pavy999 Жыл бұрын

And by the way if you also had some ounce of respect you would not have commented on my reply to the post ,so please keep your view to yourself , Thankyou.

@TheKakarot_itachi 11 ай бұрын

He was in IB for a very short period of time and he wasn't a hardcore, hence repartraited (thrown out)

@respondto6323 Жыл бұрын

A very unique kinda episode that talks about the Indian ' Spies who came in from the Cold' . Wish our back room, shadowy heros get due recognition like they do in Israel . 🙏💐🙏

@vihanpandey Жыл бұрын

You forgot B. Raman despite his books and articles all being out there and accessible. R&AW's greatest triumph in the 1965 war has been clearly documented there -- warts and all.

@gauravgill2008 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for introducing us to a lot of unsung heroes of the spy community, loved it totally.

@beelikepro Жыл бұрын

This video is well rounded wholesome video of our unsung heroes of India. Thank you Print for this.♥️

@afreenu1656 Жыл бұрын

Sir thank you. After a long time you have posted a video on espionage.

@RahulKumar-ul3ne Жыл бұрын

Loved this episode.

@mayurkanth6987 Жыл бұрын

RN Kao was a kashmiri pandit. A tiny minority kashmiri pandits are but have huge impact on every sector in india

@TheRishijoesanu Жыл бұрын

Similar to how Punjabis have always been a integral part or Indian military, Malayalis have always been an integral part of Indian intelligence community since its inception. Malayalis are highly adaptable and you'll find them everywhere in the world.

@shubhamsharma8867 Жыл бұрын

After the 71 war, Indira Gandhi had a team of people who planned and executed the plan of 71 and the Shimla talks too, the team of people were 5 kashmiri pandit including kao , dogra king Karan Singh was not included in these discussions and group and to this day he says that Indira Gandhi in Shimla talks gave too much to Pak on the recommendation of that group of her advisers. KPs were powerful, Rahul Gandhi similarly has KP ancestry.

@mayurkanth6987 Жыл бұрын

@@shubhamsharma8867 yeah Nehru himself was a kashmiri pandit. Allama Iqbal's great grandfather (National Poet of Pakistan) was a kashmiri hindu convert to Islam. I think u r talking about PN Haskar. He was very close to Indira Gandhi.

@shubhamsharma8867 Жыл бұрын

@@mayurkanth6987 ye pn haksar, dp dhar and rest 3 were some kauls. They had tremendous power and representation among the top echelons, had Indira Gandhi survived the Sikh insurgency maybe she would have had taken a firm stance on Kashmir insurgency instead of that jack shit unstable half communist half BJP khichdi govt.

@orkkojit Жыл бұрын

@@TheRishijoesanu Indian intelligence community is diverse. It isn't dominated by any one ethnicity. You have Punjabis, Bengalis, Malayalis, Uttar Pradeshis etc. Call them *INDIANS* , cos that's what they are, not Punjabis or Bengalis or Malayalis or Kashmiris.

@milindsh8735 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for bringing up these great people.

@gvr_20 Жыл бұрын

fascinating stories!

@nksrivastava6410 Жыл бұрын

Superb authentic inputs & inferences drawn in 360 degrees in those circumstances reflect the futile seasoned renowned brain, heads off to the originator.

@okee7 Жыл бұрын

To all those un sung heroes of India; we salute you 🙏

@anupam13mishra Жыл бұрын

Sir can you please share the names of your favorite news websites.

@savithadinesh98 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting!

@sugannatarajan4507 Жыл бұрын

Sir, as much as we like history, we would like to hear futuristic views from Senior Journalists like you. Who cares what blunders Nehru & his ilk did. It is known enough and only Netaji Subash Bose's secret papers need to be known in public domain. Sri. Doval will go in Indian history as the best Intelligence officer India ever had. Sri PV Narasimha Rao has done so many wonderful things, besides saving the INdian economy, which includes wiping out terrorism in Punjab. May be he would have solved J&K problem, if he had a second term. Thank you for your insights.

@vishnumohannair8791 Жыл бұрын

If he talks about the future then it would be an opinion not a report.

@shreyaarekar3527 Жыл бұрын

Sir which books would you prefer to get to know more about these unsung heroes and their great stories

@mdtahirhussain4514 Жыл бұрын

One of the finest pieces of the CTC. Thank you SG and your team.

@adnanahmedsaleh Жыл бұрын

Loved this ❤

@Ladisingh9 Жыл бұрын

He is one of my favourite.I liked him bcz during operation Black thunder,He successfully completed the operation black thunder without any violence.only one sikh radical died in Golden temple and he was also killed by his follower.Govt didn’t fire a single bullet in that operation.

@TheDarshan1389 Жыл бұрын

Salute to those heroes who protect us.

@manils35 Жыл бұрын

Nice article. However you are with us to sing it for our record. Million thanks

@sirishpoojari7015 Жыл бұрын

Jai bharat Shree Ajit doval deserves Bharat Ratna..jai hind

@manojsjoshi Жыл бұрын

Thanks, SG, for such a wonderful narration of the history of Indian spying . Liked a lot.

@Azad158 Жыл бұрын

🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏🙏 Jai hind sir good very good Excellent outstanding Jinab muhtram Ajit doval sahab Kai liye sir Bharat Mata 🇮🇳 ki Jai vande mahataram

@mukeshmaheshwari506 Жыл бұрын

That's very nice

@niranjanmanjit19 Жыл бұрын

Kudos to them n both organizations RAW Nn IB.We must also factor in the indisputable fact that our national Int agencies could not forsee/ provide timely strategic inputs on number of occasions - Chinese build up in Dok lam,Ladakh nor Kargil, 62 and 65 wars or even the Pulwama tragedy or Pathankot air base attack .In addition the Maoist naxal failures n growth of number of sleeper cells as also the attack on Parliament or Hotel Taj.Overall they seem to hv been unsuccessful. Let's hope they ginger up for in Future but knowing their systemic faults ,Indian public may expect a constant repeat of past fiascos. Col Manjit

@devanshsadh8894 Жыл бұрын

RN Kao is one of the most untalked character who laid the foundation of R.A.W and helped a lot in the liberation of Bangladesh in 1971

@dandmello5283 Жыл бұрын

ShekarGuptaji👍👍👍👍👍 A Very Happy Birthday to our... Dearest Shri. AJEET DOVAL Sir.. 77yrs and still young ... "Hat's-off"" i'Salute ..to ShekarGupta for finding something unique ....news&views. Great going..thanks 🙏

@kaminiwahi4396 Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir, that was so interesting and ur research is fantastic 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@hansikursch484 Жыл бұрын

The ones who do the real work in the field you'll never know their name.

@GamerAb2015 Жыл бұрын

Do these episodes under the roof , lots of noises are outdoor

@worldview9018 Жыл бұрын

The audio could have been better. Too much noise. Nevertheless brilliant video.

@Everynameistakenwhy Жыл бұрын

This is going to be an unusual question but does anyone know where can we find names of presidential award recipients from the intelligence bureau in the 1980s or earlier on any govt site?

@chitrabhaskar6975 Жыл бұрын

Just watched Mission Majnu And now this CTC. Thank you Print

@ankushsaini8973 Жыл бұрын

THE PRINT....please i have an idea...why don't you release an older ctc on sunday or when Sekher is not available for current ctc...please consider

@theindianliberal Жыл бұрын

This is a good suggestion

@simmisekhar1950 Жыл бұрын

There was another unsung R&w person with Kao sahab,Awadh chandra Sekhar.

@shasheebvij Жыл бұрын

Why do you SG publish old videos?

@Subhashish69 Жыл бұрын

Please do a separate show on Mukti Bahini!

@sprashant26 Жыл бұрын

You give do much background and news. 👏👏👏awesome

@ragavendrabharathi Жыл бұрын

The greatest Indian spy Ravindar Kaushik is missing in SG's list

@arkabanerjee1627 Жыл бұрын

Simply awesome 👍

@prasadv Жыл бұрын

Not a word about ESLN!

@mithunkartha Жыл бұрын

Will paid subscribers get discounts on Kia vehicles, Gupta ji?

@ashokathegreat1710 Жыл бұрын

I am preparing for upsc but still I spare some time for your CTCs. Such is the level of addiction with your journalism....

@Subhashish69 Жыл бұрын

Shekhar - you have not covered the damage that Morarji Desai and IK Gujral did to RAW and India!!

@iNDIAN-bj9hl Жыл бұрын

We salute these brave Indians

@AmarNath-kw8wc Жыл бұрын

Wonderful tribute to the many unsung heroes protecting our country !

@a61872 Жыл бұрын

Must watch

@shirishpandey3503 Жыл бұрын

Anonymity is the name of the game, some exceptional people 👏 👌

@rameshiyer101 Жыл бұрын

Shekhar Gupta will you do a episode on Amarjit Singh Dulat your darling and of you Barkha, Rajdeep,and Karan

@giradh61 Жыл бұрын

As is often typical of SG, this is heavy on information and scanty on analysis or opinion. Also, there are three glaring omissions - Sankaran Nair, NF Suntook, and B Raman - among the names dropped. If there had been more of analysis, he could have talked about things like RAW's preference for using insurrection, psy-ops and political defamation as preferred tools and its apparent distaste for "wet work" which agencies like KGB, CIA, Mossad -and closer home - ISI have used frequently.

@ramprasath7268 Жыл бұрын

What is 'wet work ' sir?

@Ganapathithooyamani Жыл бұрын

Happy birthday Ajit doval country needs you Jaishankar Nitin Goyal etc God save our Bharath Jai hind

@maheshrmehta9676 Жыл бұрын

True spy avoids publicity.

@ankits7106 Жыл бұрын

Great episode but ravindra kaushik India's greatest spy with supreme sacrifice was ignored. Why?

@padmakumarvadhyar7656 Жыл бұрын

Glad SG did not take Dulat’s name in the same league.

@tanmayparmar2208 8 күн бұрын

Namaste sir

@Inevitable-Indic-revival Жыл бұрын

Thank you GuptaJi, you r the voice of enlightenment itself.

@Subhashish69 Жыл бұрын

Please share the role of IB and RAW in the Kargil War.

@dheerajkasaudhan1244 Жыл бұрын

please change the cover photo title ,

@pramodkulkarni3747 Жыл бұрын

Good one sir . Pl tell us where we stand today with security and intelligence, both external and more internal . Internal situation is worrying .

@devidast1123 Жыл бұрын

Internal situation is worrying because Nehru disregarded Entry 8nList I Sch VII monopoly of the Union over Intelligence and Investigation and allowed states to have it. He violated the Constitution and Justice Katju capped it with his per incuriam decision in Vineet Narain, The paradox is that the invalid actions continue to be followed.

@pramodkulkarni3747 Жыл бұрын

@@devidast1123 Nehru is dead 60 yrs . Let us all put our heart and hands from now and today and build a strong country

@abhilash9918 Жыл бұрын

@@pramodkulkarni3747 Nehru's blunders can't be solved so easily considering how diverse india is. Forget about india which is democratic and political parties ultimately need people's mandate just look at Russia. Putin is basically a dictator with immense power and for so long yet he couldn't fix Russia. You've already witnessed how things went when government bought farm bills. Just wait for delimitation process which is due since too long. It'll create mayhem.

@ankushsaini8973 Жыл бұрын

I like this ctc as much as i liked it in 22

@millennialmind9507 Жыл бұрын

Kaoboys 👍

@ps2050 Жыл бұрын

2:32 its too noisy to record outside

@ysb1234 Жыл бұрын

hope u did not leak an unheard name......

@ramt4643 Жыл бұрын

Happy Birthday 🤠 Sri Ajith Doval Saab NSA Gov of India 🇮🇳 ❗💐🙏

@humanentity2214 Жыл бұрын

Third phase of Punjab violence was during my childhood. Every month we used to see 700 deaths per month. Mostly Hindus were targeted.

@TheRishijoesanu Жыл бұрын

Did you notice how most names mentioned in this video are Malayalis (Narayanan, Pillai and Menon) or from Kerala cadre (Doval)? Similar to how Punjabis have always been a integral part of Indian military, Malayalis have always been an integral part of Indian intelligence community since its inception. It's not just Shivshankar Menon or MK Narayanan. RAW and IB are full of Malayalis. I think it's because Malayalis are very migrant population who are everywhere across the world. Malayalis are multilingual and owing to so many migrations, they are highly adaptable to different places and cultures which are traits valued in intelligence community.

@MayankSingh-ou5gv Жыл бұрын

I see

@TheRishijoesanu Жыл бұрын

@@MayankSingh-ou5gv Malayalis are a big part of Indian navy since Kochi is Indian Navy's main node but Mallus used to be pretty dominant in the early days of Indian Air Force too. There was recurrent joke in Air Force in the 70s that it should be renamed "India Nair Force" because IAF had so many people named Nair. Malayali contribution to Indian defense is massive but very infrequently mentioned.

@malayalee123 Жыл бұрын

@@TheRishijoesanu airforce southern command is in Trivandrum, Kerala' s capital city.

@dineshsharma6125 Жыл бұрын

most of them are upper caste Hindus Malyali who are more like North Indians. Even South Indians accuse Brahmins to be North Indian or Aryan. So I don't understand Are South Indian accepting upper caste Hindus Now or Are only interested in boosting their personal profiles and abusing them at other times? These upper caste Hindu men become Malyali, Min of External affairs JaiShankar becomes Tamil but at all other purpose the upper caste men are outsiders.

@unknowngupta4235 Жыл бұрын

Doval is from UK

@TheKakarot_itachi 11 ай бұрын

MK is the greatest intelligence officer in the history of the country.

@user-sl3uj1xq1m Жыл бұрын

It was a dismay for me to learn how lethal was Mr.Ajit Doval and Manohar Parrikar in surgical strikes inly from a foreign channel "History". Why did we fail to make one?

@sesh7357 Жыл бұрын

While I appreciate what you feel about unsung heroes, I think a good spy is not heard or seen, so as to be effective at their job?

@dnyaneshwarrindhe3974 Жыл бұрын

Too much bird noise in background.

@studytime2570 Жыл бұрын

any content related to India-China issue exists. ccp bots in the comment section: we are summoned 🇨🇳

@MD-1996 Жыл бұрын

I bet when someone asks you time, you tell them how a clock works first. Please don’t belabor the points by telling uninvited history and statistics while making such videos. Shorter is better. Also recording outside is not such a great idea, we can hear fifty different types of birds and animals as well as planes landing in Delhi. Quite annoying actually. Please use a noise cancelling microphone if possible. Hope the feedback is not too harsh. 🙂

@satyavachan7099 Жыл бұрын

Valid points. Sometimes I listen to his videos while driving home from work. And a car honk in the background from his video startles me as if someone honked at me 😂 And I live in a country where honking is a rarity !!

@VarunStream Жыл бұрын

RAW is so potent that Pakistan has named one of its major cities upon it. RAWalpindi.

@anmolshrivastava4179 Жыл бұрын

Named after Bappa Rawal, ruler of Mewar. By the way good joke.

@pramodshetty5076 Жыл бұрын

I hope the Indian Govt takes good care of the families of spies who go into this covert operations. So that spies can focus 200% and be all in to these operations.

@baskaranjv8925 Жыл бұрын

Guptaji should talk why Chinese occupation in India and what is the role of Ajit Doval

@Dilbari1 Жыл бұрын

One of the best spy master in our country.

@sainigagan5 Жыл бұрын

Second day of missing the CTC. Hope you are doing well sir

@ramt4643 Жыл бұрын

Gov of India 🇮🇳 should Create a Memorial for them !

@satyavachan7099 Жыл бұрын

Maybe they don’t do it for the officer and their family’s safety.

@manojchandran6834 Жыл бұрын

Excellent choice by Modi ji 👍

@girishdubey724 Жыл бұрын

0:30

@learnerarshi2949 Жыл бұрын

. Thanks to every such unsung officer served the nation n maintained its security.

@kleejensen8684 Жыл бұрын

Please do some noise cancellation

@ramt4643 Жыл бұрын

🤠 Sri Rameshwar Nath Kao 🇮🇳 ❗💐🙏

@rekhaagarwal73 Жыл бұрын

Ajit Doval is a asset for solving Kashmir terrorism

@abhishekkadian Жыл бұрын

Pathetic audio quality, please fix it.

@ASTROMURTHY Жыл бұрын

How come Kerala cadre were in external affairs rights from Mr Krishna Menon. They systematically destroyed Elam.

@helcurt2509 Жыл бұрын

india has diverse ethnic and linguistic groups. we can easily mix among locals of most nations

@TheRishijoesanu Жыл бұрын

@Gaurav-wd2vy Жыл бұрын

@@TheRishijoesanu Well RN Kao and Ajit Doval both are not malyali, infact both are hilly people.

@muralip9967 Жыл бұрын

@@Gaurav-wd2vy ajithji kerala cader

@unknowngupta4235 Жыл бұрын

@@muralip9967 cadre and origin of people are different things sir

@muralip9967 Жыл бұрын

@@unknowngupta4235 i know it Sir 😀

@pradeepchittoor9222 Жыл бұрын

The greatest blow to our intelligence was during the UPA years when the entire intelligence structure was exposed to the ISI as Madam Sonia was deeply obliged OR blackmailed by them as her phenomenal LOOT was passed through their corridor