AK74 & AK74M Differences (Arsenal SLR105 vs Izhmash SGL31)

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To help clarify a few things, in this video we talk about the differences between the original AK-74/AKS-74 and the modernized AK-74M. We compare and contrast a Bulgarian Arsenal SLR105A1 and Russian Izhmash SGL31-94, both chambered for the 5.45x39mm M74 cartridge.
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@SSS-cp1op 4 жыл бұрын

You deserve a lot more subscribers, keep it up very very informational

@EnPeeSee 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, answered all of my questions about the 74M vs the standard 74

@matejmatej3554 5 жыл бұрын

I'm undecided so I'm adding both of these to my fictional and non-existent gun collection. It is hard for me to decide when I can have every single gun in my collection hahaha and it does not cost me anything but my fantasy hehe. Great video I learned something new. Greetings from Slovenia

@adrienrandall9483 3 жыл бұрын

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@breckenreginald3341 3 жыл бұрын

@Adrien Randall yea, I have been using flixzone} for months myself :)

@matejmatej3554 2 жыл бұрын

@@Vict7633 you just lost now give me your collection 🤪😜😋

@kevinlogue507 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this informative video. I love my 74's and always want to learn more about them. I appreciate your time and attention to detail!

@TY-pf6vb 5 жыл бұрын

Misha & Jay back at it again with the Ak videos thanks guys!!

@servicerifle16 5 жыл бұрын

It's too bad 5.45 never took off in the US, I love the AK74. My first experience was with my dad's. I think it was a Bulgarian parts kit build, it had a Nodak receiver but all the parts including trunnion were scrubbed of markings, stocks were Combloc style plastic and had the side optic rail.

@simone.Lmo.639-2 5 жыл бұрын

here in Italy we are lucky, it costs as .223 so ~15€/17$ for 30 rounds. but we have only one ak74 model wich is not a demilitarized

@gladifly 4 жыл бұрын

There's something about shooting AKs, that you don't feel with any other gun.

@mattmorrison9379 5 жыл бұрын

The stock on the saiga is phenomenal. From the way the color and grain kinda flip flops to different shades in direct light. To the nice iodine red orange hue. Hard to beat the looks of russian laminate.

@markbrown4597 5 жыл бұрын

And just when i thought i knew all the differences between the 74 variants,bravo Misha.Wish me luck on cloning a 74m in the future!

@jardinero9112 5 жыл бұрын

Hi im gman and i am a AKAHOLICH. Thank you for giving me a shot of AK. Its just what i needed.

@KasKovAKS 5 жыл бұрын

Bought a new 09 legion SGL31-94 for $1177 with tax back in 2010. Love the rifle. Ejects at 2ock, lightweight, engineeringly and field simple, accurate in both range and to AK-74m details except for full-auto, built like a real one in metallurgy, comfortable, easy furniture modifiable, and so on... grateful I own one. I hope they come back normally for sale again.

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Sad to say, but they aren't coming back. Just be glad that we had them for 4+ years...a pretty long period if you think about it and Arsenal/FIME did ship a goodly number of them.

@AnontheGOAT 5 жыл бұрын

Man that makes me feel better about getting mine last year for $1250!

@Wolfwolveswolf 4 жыл бұрын

MISHACO- the Master of AK's!

@wayfaerer320 5 жыл бұрын

Personally, the AK-74M is my favorite AK of all time. Having said that, I've owned both at one time - an Izhmash SGL 31-94 and a Bulgarian SLR 104FR. Sold the Izhmash 31-94 and still have the Bulgarian 104FR. The Bulgarian gun easily had the better fit and finish, not to mention the pistol grip retaining plate, a key part the 31-94 Izzy was missing. I really wanted to love the Izzy 31-94, but the Bulgarian 74, even though it's not exactly down to every detail, a 74M, is a better built rifle.

@AnontheGOAT 5 жыл бұрын

wayfaerer320 was it a Legion or FIME import - the izzy.

@wayfaerer320 5 жыл бұрын

@@AnontheGOAT Legion.

@genghisghost 3 жыл бұрын

keep telling urself that bud.... doesnt mean ur not an idiot

@wayfaerer320 3 жыл бұрын

@@genghisghost Ok.

@1969cmp 5 жыл бұрын

Nice pieces. Thanks.

@saltysteel3996 5 жыл бұрын

Love my SGL21. Wish it was the side folder though. Anyways, I have the polymer stocks on it but I just ordered the factory Izhmash wood stock set from SovietStocks.com. It's the original 1960's factory Russian color. It's listed to fit Saiga rifles. And these sets have not been drilled yet for mounting screws either. Can't wait to get the new furniture put on it but the stocks are refinished by hand on order so there's a 4-6 week wait before shipping. They also come with all of the hardware like the buttplate, trapdoor, and sling swivel.

@GUNTHER-lx6vu 5 жыл бұрын

Good video thanks allot guys

@jtlbz 5 жыл бұрын

Love the video. I never knew that about my Arsenal SLR 107fr it's still a great gun !!

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Sure is and I own an SLR106CR, so it wasn't knocking them; just trying to inform folks what they have.

@markbrown4597 5 жыл бұрын

Could you do a video on the ak 12 and 15? i cant find much info on them other than the videos from kalash concern.

@bigdave7648 3 жыл бұрын

One more question: Do you have any AK-74M receiver stubs? Me and some other guys are gathering measurements and we're trying to figure out when Izhmash/Kalashnikov Concern switched from a 1.00mm thick receiver to a 1.25mm receiver. Another possible thing to measure would be 90's Saiga receivers. 2000's and onwards Saigas use the 1.25mm receiver.

@rangerdanger766 5 жыл бұрын

wow thanks very detailed

@TheWilferch 3 жыл бұрын

Can you ( or some viewer) help with this question?---> I have a 5.45 Saiga converted to near-AK74 "look" by virtue of furniture change and Fire-Group changeout, etc. I don't know if this Saiga follows the AK-74 or AKM more closely. Reason for asking?..... it seems Poland's Radom offers a 5.56 NATO AK...and therefore produces a barrel and mag for 5.56. Question--> can a Radom 5.56 barrel and mag be fitted to a Saiga 5.45 to create a caliber change?...or are there many more parts involved, or not possible for other reasons?

@Shiroiji 4 жыл бұрын

Is the barrel on the Ak74M heavier than on the original?

@Grasyl 5 жыл бұрын

Great Video. What is in you opinion the best Book on AKs History despite The Grim Reaper?

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Wish I knew...most books are pretty generalized, especially when it comes to other nationalities of AKs (for example Romanian or Bulgarian).

@ShowMeMy0pponent 5 жыл бұрын

Misha, do you have any experience with James River Armory? They have Russian AK74 kit builds at a place near me, R Guns. They look good but I’ve read mixed reviews on them. Price is kind of high but they are built on very nice matching numbers Russian kits.

@calebkendall1362 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks for the great content. I have a question, maybe someone here can shed some light: I have read that the Arsenal SLR-106 series is not even an AK-74 style rifle, because it actually has an AKM bolt carrier. Some people on the internet have called it a "freak morph" but I am not sure since I don't have a 74 style to compare it with. Does anyone know? Thanks!

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

That's tricky....thing is nearly all 5.56/223 AKs are different from each other; there wasn't a unified pattern. The SLR106 is basically a milled Arsenal ARM1 in 5.56 but built on a stamped receiver rather than milled. So yes, it does have some elements from the AK47/AKM. It isn't a true AK101 or AK102 that's for sure. Still good guns though, no worries.

@bigdave7648 5 жыл бұрын

I have been looking around for some time now but maybe you have an answer Misha; Do you know why the XY stampings on the AK changed slightly in 1973/1974? It's both visible on all AK models after 1973 for Izhmash, Tula, Sadu Mechanical Plant, Bulgaria, and Factory K3 from EG.

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry no, i don't have a reason why. Sometimes changes just happened 'because.' Usually it had to do with either new tooling, new material being used, or a new technique designed to speed up production or save on resources.

@bigdave7648 5 жыл бұрын

That's possible. I had a theory that it was modified to fit the new side rail design, which came about from the new AK74 trunnion, even though not many guns had the side rail. They did something similar with the rear trunnion where it didn't matter if it was a folding stock model or not; the rear rivet was machined flat.

@BigSmartArmed 5 жыл бұрын

Here's a question, how do you guys cut the take up to be so short on those TGs? Both of those 74s seem to have a really short take up and the trigger hook does not seem to be tilted with a floor spacer.

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Nothing special. The SLR105 has the orig Arsenal FCG installed back in 2005 and i swapped the orig FCG that came in the SGL31 with one of the newer FIME Group FCGs (which itself is a US mfg copy of the Molot semi one).

@BigSmartArmed 5 жыл бұрын

@@misha5670 Thanks for the heads up on FIME, I'm looking into it. Not sure what you meant by copy of Molot though, since their hammers come with a stand off shelf. I worked on mine and geometry seems to be different from standard AK, including sear function. I swapped the TG in one of my Veprs and without the shelf on the hammer the operation turns into single stage vs. two stage. I coudn't find exact definition of FCG vs TGA, and though that FCG defines select fire and TG(a) single fire, be it semi-auto or manually operated. Live and learn.

@mustafaalgharibawi9556 Жыл бұрын

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@BigSmartArmed 5 жыл бұрын

I though first it was N for the rail, then it was AKS for the triangle folding stock which was then adopted for AKSU. What is that silver rivet on the receiver in front of the mag well? I just can't place it.

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Yes S = folding stock and N = for a rail mount. So originally you had names like AKMN and AKS74. With the AK74M though, both the folding stock and scope rail became standard features rather than variant upgrades.

@BigSmartArmed 5 жыл бұрын

@@misha5670 Hey thanks, now I get to look up what AKMN is! If it's AKM with a rail as the namig suggests, then thanks to you it's another AK discovery for me :)

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Don't for get AKML too....and yes there was AKMN ontop of that too lol.

@AngelSilverFourtySeven 5 жыл бұрын

Woot woot 🍾🇺🇸👍🏼

@Leman.Russ.6thLegion 5 жыл бұрын

RPK MASTER RACE. CALIBER DON'T MATTER. GET ON MY LEVEL, BOIZ!

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

It would bore people if i only talked about RPKs on here....i could do it happily mind you lol, but it would bore many our fine folks hehe.

@Leman.Russ.6thLegion 5 жыл бұрын

@@misha5670 lol. I guess other guns need love love too. Except AR15's. XD

@kgshooter 5 жыл бұрын

I have same one! AK74M (Saiga) :)

@fredbarney4525 5 жыл бұрын

You have an SGL31-94 with the folding stock. Figures👍

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Sure, when i got it, they were easy to find and nearly always in stock....heck even sometimes put on sale. I probably had 200 come through the store from 2010 through 2014, at a guess?

@simonerubino52 6 ай бұрын

Have you noticed any differences between the mags? Can the Bulgarian Meg go into say a Romanian?

@jeremy8715 5 жыл бұрын

I have a SLR-104FR. So, more videos of these please.

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Might want to checkout the 'Bulgarian Arsenal' playlist....a number of videos do feature the SLR104 and SLR105, cheers.

@kygent508 5 жыл бұрын

I have a NEW one for sale near Ft.Campbell,Ky.

@HkMp5Guy 5 жыл бұрын

kygent508 still for sale ?

@kygent508 5 жыл бұрын

Yes besides the rifle there is 910rds ammo and 8 mags.Price is $1,500 plus transfer $26.50

@HkMp5Guy 5 жыл бұрын

kygent508 423617651zero. Shoot me a message I’m in Tennessee

@ronaldrainero5579 3 жыл бұрын

Do I convert my Saiga sporter or leave it alone?

@dopal6819 Жыл бұрын

convert it!

@1789000 5 жыл бұрын

i'm having a hard time finding out values for the izmash/arsenal (not fime)sgl-31 and the sgl31-84 (limited edition steel triangle folder...anyone know where you can find values for these?

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

SGL31-84 wasn't a limited edition. They made as many (or even more) of those as they did SGL31-94s. I had a large number come through the shop back in the day. The SGL31-84/94 were Arsenal branded, while the SGL31-85/95 were FIME Group marked.

@1789000 5 жыл бұрын

@@misha5670 the green booklet that came with mine says limited edition right on the front cover along with some signatures and date/serial number of rifle written in the booklet

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Good ol' Arsenal marketing is what ya have there.

@1789000 5 жыл бұрын

@@misha5670 any idea of what its worth? cant find a source anywhere for values..

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

*Shrug* whatever someone's willing to pay. Sorry, i am not a walking Bluebook. I don't know values any better than you do. These things go up in price, down again, and sometimes sideways even.

@castro936tx4 5 жыл бұрын

First yes sir finally

@Valkmir 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Misha, I think you are wrong about your explaination of 'plum' though. It's not a desgination for the polymer furniture but the collor. Some were made in a sort of purple collor that looks like the plum fruit, it's there the plum comes from.

@MTGPringles 5 жыл бұрын

For your ak74, is that a stamped reciever?

@MTGPringles 5 жыл бұрын

I might have missed on that

@reallymentalpig1173 Жыл бұрын

It is stamped.

@mohammadaldufairy6173 5 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@lequanglequang6016 2 жыл бұрын

de lai cho minh mot kh ak74m co ko ban

@remicharbonneau9800 5 жыл бұрын

i wish i could own one in canada....a dream.

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

At least you can go cry into your SG550...though these days us Yanks have those back on our market...finally after a 25 year drout.

@slavphil7532 5 жыл бұрын

Had a sgl-21 and a slr-104fr, in all honesty the SLR feels better in every way, has the grip plate. Also their is way more aftermarket for 4.5mm trunnion stuff vs 5.5mm

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Sure, we've done vs. videos with them comparing quality/value etc. The SLR104FR is objectively a better rifle, but the SGL31 has the 'Made in Russia' thing going for it...a big selling factor for folks, even long before the 2014 ban.

@slavphil7532 5 жыл бұрын

@@misha5670 yep I got rid of the sgl-21 because I was offered 2k for it. Still have the 104fr and several Romanian guns like the cool sar-3 and a few converted saigas which are pretty much sgls in all but name

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Honestly even if offered $2k, I don't believe I would sell the SGL31-94. It breings me too much enjoyment and besides, such guns will hold or even gain value in years to come. So they're better than a CD at the bank IMO.

@slavphil7532 5 жыл бұрын

@@misha5670 yeah may give one of my saigas the 5.5mm trunnion conversion, probably would send it to jbi armory or in range, go big or go home with saiga conversion imo

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Agreed, enough half-assed Saiga conversions in the country already. Either leave one in its original configuration, or get a true Pro to make it into something special like an AK74M or AK105 clone.

@josuesosaa7 4 жыл бұрын

I didn’t even know there was an ak 74m

@hj.maryatimaryati7181 2 жыл бұрын

👍

@Hrajnoga 5 жыл бұрын

That AK-74 has got an original russian furniture or a reproduction ? Looks gorgeous :-O

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Its original, the SGL31-94 shipped with an Izhmash stock in fact..even had the small silvery ink proofs.

@Ghoulishblade 3 жыл бұрын

I had someone try to sell me a "kit" of an AK 105 clone modified from a 74 kit. Problem was the receiver wasn't destroyed to ATF standards and he removed the muzzle device making it legal length. Never noped out of a buy so fast.

@tiborszabo981 5 жыл бұрын

It looks like he's blind. Is he? If yes, how is he better in guns than most of us together?

@ancoloco 3 жыл бұрын

🤔

@bluesunlion613 Жыл бұрын

⚔️💙🗡️🛡️⚔️

@yandexcorpusa3391 5 жыл бұрын

Beat AK man out there

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

UM please don't beat me? If you tried it, you'd get attacked by a herd of cats anyway lol.

@bananaspy20 3 жыл бұрын

Was this made to be ASMR...? Or am I just weird?

@SSS-cp1op 3 жыл бұрын

That’s not plum buddy

@oiuii 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the only difference was that the ak74m was black

@crazyjblu 5 жыл бұрын

Ak-74, 74m, and Century series are all different rifles.

@Sporora 5 жыл бұрын

AK-100 series is virtually just the AK-74M updates made for different calibers (103 and 101) with also the option for a shorter 12.5" inch barrel (102, 104, 105)

@misha5670 5 жыл бұрын

Yep, AK74M is 5.45, AK101 is 5.56, and AK103 is 7.62x39. Otherwise same rifle, with of course changes where needed for different calibers such as mags and muzzle brakes. The AK102/104/105 lineup is in a real way the spirital successor to the AKS74U too.

@Sporora 5 жыл бұрын

@@misha5670 "The AK102/104/105 lineup is in a real way the spirital successor to the AKS74U too." Without the horrendous velocity and muzzle energy loss of the super short AKS-74U barrel (about an 8" barrel vs 12.5") not to mention the other issues that come with shorter and shorter barrels like gas system length, gas port size, and biggies like twist rate and load compatibility.

@SSS-cp1op 4 жыл бұрын

That’s not plum bud

@BricksOnDaBeat 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking.