Alan Moore - Creating An Authentic Character - Storytelling - BBC Maestro

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BBC Maestro

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2 жыл бұрын

Learn how to craft three-dimensional, complete characters with legendary writer, Alan Moore.
This lesson is taken from Alan Moore’s BBC Maestro online storytelling course, which details every aspect of building a fictional world and the characters that inhabit it.
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@IconOfSin
@IconOfSin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not an aspiring writer, I just bought in to hear Alan Moore talk
@samescourt3801
@samescourt3801 2 жыл бұрын
Same I’m not one either but hearing Alan now is inspiring me to become one. Such amazing wisdom coming from this man.
@Dirtyboots3strikes
@Dirtyboots3strikes 2 жыл бұрын
same here, but having this kind of knowledge thought by a man who knows what he's doing helps a lot.
@apullcan
@apullcan 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously. Even if you're not interested in writing, he's just a fascinating mind
@sneeter342
@sneeter342 2 жыл бұрын
I loved him before this, but now I adore him.
@angrydrunkengerman2819
@angrydrunkengerman2819 2 жыл бұрын
I am. He and Peter David were two huge inspirations that made me want to do it. I'm not a good one yet but if I get there it's due to guys like them.
@HGAMES69
@HGAMES69 2 жыл бұрын
Alan looks like the Kingsman portrayal of Rasputin lol
@RealRoknRollr3108
@RealRoknRollr3108 2 жыл бұрын
Well they're both mystics and shamans
@V-Zone331
@V-Zone331 2 жыл бұрын
I work at a movie theater and when I was moving the King's Man poster around my first thought was always that Rasputin looked like Alan Moore. To the extent that I even checked the cast list.
@ernestocaro9802
@ernestocaro9802 2 жыл бұрын
damn you're right lol
@paulbrown6464
@paulbrown6464 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a story that a mother once told him he would make a great Hagrid
@BigPapaJoshy
@BigPapaJoshy 2 жыл бұрын
The Kingsman's portayal of Rasputin looks like Alan. Alan Moore is a paradox that gave birth to itself.
@Hamerparsa
@Hamerparsa 2 жыл бұрын
This dude not only is one of the greatest writers ever lived , he is one of the few that never sold out to Hollywood . He hates them and every time they adapt his stuff into big screen he tells them to take his name off of it and gives the royalties to other contributors to his books . So gangster
@AshleyTheSwift
@AshleyTheSwift 2 жыл бұрын
But he does keep letting them use his intellectual property. He could just say no in the first place.
@Hamerparsa
@Hamerparsa 2 жыл бұрын
@@AshleyTheSwift the studios has the rights to his ips . He can’t do nothing about it but take his name off of it .
@framebot
@framebot 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hamerparsa yeah but he sold them the IPs in the first place 😂
@Camaraocompao
@Camaraocompao 2 жыл бұрын
@@framebot he was the writer, not the owner
@trainman5675
@trainman5675 2 жыл бұрын
Except in very rare occurrences like in the justice league tv series in the early 2000s when they did for the man who has everything
@Kriskazam
@Kriskazam 2 жыл бұрын
bruh when he brought up Stan Lee's name i was like "oh no he's not gonna shit talk Stan Lee on BBC rn is he?" and then he described how Stan Lee added more dimension than a one dimensional character i was like "phew sigh of relief" but then he follows it up as it being a two dimensional character and i just burst out laughing lmao. Alan Moore u savage
@imdhepchannel7153
@imdhepchannel7153 2 жыл бұрын
He slay it dind't he, wkwkwkwkw
@Captainlunchbox
@Captainlunchbox 2 жыл бұрын
I mean marvel comics did fuck over a lot of creators under Stan Lee's direction and often at his orders. Lee is no Saint
@michaelmcclain6704
@michaelmcclain6704 2 жыл бұрын
I would say that, by the time you get to the late Silver Age/early Bronze Age(when Stan is still writing), those characters have evolved to be 2 and a half dimensional or basically 3 dimensional. Spider-man is pretty well fleshed out by the time Gwen Stacy dies.
@Satellaview1889
@Satellaview1889 2 жыл бұрын
Allan was simply balancing the scales.
@ince55ant
@ince55ant 2 жыл бұрын
"maybe he has a bad leg"
@aubreyknight7563
@aubreyknight7563 2 жыл бұрын
I know he hates the industry now and is fed up with it, but this man is really the last OG in comics. He tells a story like no one else not named Neil Gaiman.
@AionShanks
@AionShanks 2 жыл бұрын
Define OG
@aubreyknight7563
@aubreyknight7563 2 жыл бұрын
@@AionShanks If you don't know, don't worry about it.
@AionShanks
@AionShanks 2 жыл бұрын
@@aubreyknight7563 if I don't know what exactly ?
@aubreyknight7563
@aubreyknight7563 2 жыл бұрын
@@AionShanks What OG means.
@AionShanks
@AionShanks 2 жыл бұрын
@@aubreyknight7563 Well, Moore is well after the golden and silver age so if you consider an 80s comics writer like him OG he isn't the last not by a longshot. Araki(jojo), Toriyama(dragonball), katsuhiro otomo(akira), mcfarlane(spawn), I would have put miura(berserk) on the list but sadly he passed away last year. So yeah, if 80s is now considered OG mister Moore has good company no worries
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, it's always a treat to hear Alan Moore "ribbing" comic books any chance they give him. From the man who wrote issues of Spawn and WildC.A.T.S., by the way. That being said, I kind f get it as more comic book stories come out. Getting serious Watchmen Babies vibes as time goes on...
@vaderetro264
@vaderetro264 2 жыл бұрын
Moore didn't mind to earn huge bucks working for Todd McFarlane and Rob Liefeld. Not that he didn't deserve that money, of course, but his hating on Stan Lee is unreasonable - who wrote the beautiful Spiderman run with John Romita Jr?
@paranoidplane9799
@paranoidplane9799 2 жыл бұрын
Most superhero comics are one dimensional, of course there's some of them that are written wonderful and portray supe's in colorful ways, but they're few and far between.
@Jenacide
@Jenacide 2 жыл бұрын
@@vaderetro264 Ya but sounds like he's talking about the earlier works. Some of the early stuff was pretty basic
@maxpowers4436
@maxpowers4436 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jenacide Well yea it was a basic medium that essentially became the written version of pulps from the radio. Stan Lee did come do what he mentioned but he also layered a 2 dimensional character like Peter Parker that he became a 3 dimensional character.
@njux1871
@njux1871 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxpowers4436 when was spider-man three dimensional?
@joshuavstheworld7
@joshuavstheworld7 2 жыл бұрын
Watchmen will always be my favorite comic book. At the end of it you feel like you have know those characters for a long time. That they might even been part of our world. Absolutely fantastic.
@slappyfun
@slappyfun 2 жыл бұрын
and still very relevent today.
@joshuavstheworld7
@joshuavstheworld7 2 жыл бұрын
@@slappyfun absolutely true. I was reading it after many years the other day, and there are several parts that ring true when it come to nuclear superpowers, deterrents and heads of countries. It was like we were stuck again in the cold war. Sad but true
@slappyfun
@slappyfun 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuavstheworld7 Like Rorsach's journal at the end is a metaphor, I still have hope that if enough people become aware of the suspicious connections between corporations, media and government, we'll become more critical thinkers about the world around us. Maybe curb some of our present day political turmoil and war-mongering.
@joshuavstheworld7
@joshuavstheworld7 2 жыл бұрын
@@slappyfun oh, I gotta get to that part again. What I remember getting from his journal is to be suspicious and never compromise the truth. As painful as the truth might be. It's better to have the full picture and be free to choose... I gotta get to the end. I missed something.
@slappyfun
@slappyfun 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuavstheworld7 I don't think you missed anything at all. I just mean the story (and particularly the final imagery of Rorschach's journal) is still such a relevent metaphor especially regarding wars happening today where the truth seems to be intentionally obfuscated.
@shaun_seow
@shaun_seow Жыл бұрын
What a deep and wonderful voice Alan has. He will make a great narrator for documentaries and audiobooks.
@sleepysera
@sleepysera 2 жыл бұрын
I think there's a place for one- or two-dimensional characters in fiction. A story can become unnecessarily convoluted if every random castle guard is a multi-layered character that we have to get to know properly, and even if we are purely talking main characters, there's something very calming about simplistic characters. In the end, it boils down to - what is our intent? Do we want a complex, thought-provoking, deeply engaging story? Then I fully agree that complex characters are the better choice. Or do we want to write comfort fiction? Something that lets readers take a mental break from the complexities of the real world, because especially in troubling times, when it's hard to know what to believe and there is no clear right or wrong (well, there never is, but sometimes it's even more muddled than usual), there are many readers who specifically crave a story where the bad guys are simply evil because they are, and the good guys are good and have nothing else to worry about and single-handedly save the world because that's what good guys do. Comfort fiction has its place, just like comfort food does. In the same way as it would be quite problematic if someone ONLY ate mac&cheese everyday, if all fiction was like that, of course it would be a problem. But that doesn't mean there isn't a place for that kind of fiction at all, and the usually one-dimensional characters and moralities that define it.
@sgm7650
@sgm7650 2 жыл бұрын
Mate I think exactly as u do. Everything has its place and everything has a purpose depending on what you want to convey, and who you are trying to entertain. For everthing you said, I sum a +1, and just to add something else, I think there is a very important detail no one seems to remember: some of these stories are meant for kids and teens...and just because of that we have to understand that if every story they read and hear is a complex, thought-provoking, deeply engaging story, then we are just ripping from them the meaning of being kids xD, we dont want them to have depression on such a short age, thats what the 20`s are for hahaha. The complexity of stories I think should be balanced and as you said, they should always be there for every stage of our lives, cause they all have their charm and purpose :).
@wenwilloughby8197
@wenwilloughby8197 2 жыл бұрын
@@sgm7650 In fairness he's not talking about kids books - BBC Maestro have like 3 other courses just for kids books - Moore's books are famously adult. But. Why can't kids and teens have thoughtful, deep stories? They deserve more than happy sappy mush, even Disney is giving more complicated stories now - and Disney always kill off the parents too. Some of the best stories written 'for children' are dark AF - look at the early fairy tales. 'Complex' doesn't mean depressing, complicated, or adult; just well-written, thought-provoking, and clever, because children are clever, so they deserve rich, well-written stuff. Also a lot of kids are gory little bastards who seem to delight in horrible things - I often think it's me who wants to escape to the happy mush place, and leave them to sneak off with Game of Thrones.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 24 күн бұрын
Bro, it's really not that hard.
@richardpreston7333
@richardpreston7333 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, just to clarify: Alan's comments about "a bad leg" are about Donald Blake, Thor's alter ego, who was slightly crippled. In the 60s, physical disability was looked down on a lot more in society (it's why characters like Matt Murdoch and Alicia Masters were so ground-breaking) and a lot of Donald's problems were about his own sense of self-worth over his disability. Alan is dismissive of this because... well, as you might have gathered, he's never been a big Stan Lee fan.
@CabezasDePescado
@CabezasDePescado 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Stan Lee was not perfect
@RickReasonnz
@RickReasonnz 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh was trying to think of it. Yeah, that was a terrible time with the one quirk characters but perhaps that was a stepping stone to allow comic writers the confidence to introduce 3 dimensional characters.
@mokona034
@mokona034 2 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee was very much a capitalist and Alan Moore is the exact opposite of that. So yeah, I get why he actually hates Stan Lee and really likes Jack Kirby. And yeah, both of them are human beings and have a lot of good and bad things about them.
@thecomickeeper5127
@thecomickeeper5127 2 жыл бұрын
Stan was an ass, let's be honest. The way he treated the goat Kirby is proof of this
@cleftturnip7774
@cleftturnip7774 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if he was being dismissive
@gibbons9599
@gibbons9599 2 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore is the closest thing to a living comic book character than actual people pretending to be comic book characters.
@jasonvoorhees5640
@jasonvoorhees5640 Жыл бұрын
no
@kent_nelson
@kent_nelson 2 жыл бұрын
Reading The Swamp Thing Saga for art homework at uni. It's facinating and captivating, just had to read one chapter but I'm reading it all because of how good it is.
@satellachannel6423
@satellachannel6423 2 жыл бұрын
What are you studying to have comics to read as homeworks? :D
@kent_nelson
@kent_nelson 2 жыл бұрын
@@satellachannel6423 I'm studying Painting at Escuela Nacional Superior Autónoma de Bellas Artes del Perú. Here in Lima-Perú.
@sosijiz1971
@sosijiz1971 18 күн бұрын
Hello! Which issue did you have to read and why?
@kent_nelson
@kent_nelson 18 күн бұрын
@@sosijiz1971 Hello, It was "The Saga of the Swamp Thing (vol. 2) #21". The pdfs were in Spanish but read it in English for personal preference and I got hooked to the story (I stopped reading them at #40 or so due to lack of time). My teacher said we had to we had to analyze the composition, the drawings and what they really tells us as readers. Hope to finish the complete saga soon.
@sosijiz1971
@sosijiz1971 17 күн бұрын
@@kent_nelson Interesting - appreciate the clear reply. Cheers!
@athenassigil5820
@athenassigil5820 2 жыл бұрын
I love all his stuff...but for me, it's his 2 novels ( Voice of the Fire and Jerusalem ) and the work he did on Promethea and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen that really shines. Brilliant stuff, all of it.
@vagabundorkchaosmagick-use2898
@vagabundorkchaosmagick-use2898 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! All four are also my favorites.
@hulksmash8159
@hulksmash8159 2 жыл бұрын
Swamp Thing will always be his best work.
@athenassigil5820
@athenassigil5820 2 жыл бұрын
@@hulksmash8159 For you.
@monotech20.14
@monotech20.14 2 жыл бұрын
Alan MOORE is a HACK who's most successful stories are with characters others created. Except for V for Vendetta. Also the Killing Joke is SHIT.
@hulksmash8159
@hulksmash8159 2 жыл бұрын
@@athenassigil5820 And you, and you...and you.
@cylondorado4582
@cylondorado4582 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I like corny comic books, I have to give it to him. I've always been impressed by the depth of his characters. A DC character could have a cameo in Swamp Thing, and they'd be more fleshed out then they've ever been.
@jasonvoorhees5640
@jasonvoorhees5640 Жыл бұрын
Gaiman better though
@ev2782
@ev2782 2 жыл бұрын
Look Alan's expression when he pronounce STAN LEE 's name 😂😂
@groofay
@groofay 2 жыл бұрын
He's like "we're talking about writing comics, I guess I have to mention _him_ at least once" then proceeds to throw as much shade as possible 🤣
@ev2782
@ev2782 2 жыл бұрын
@@groofay 😂😂😂😂😂
@tomwilliamson3637
@tomwilliamson3637 2 жыл бұрын
A name worthy of contempt.
@tedstrauss999
@tedstrauss999 2 жыл бұрын
ooo let's all pile on a legend who recently died and who was an originator of the medium we love.
@ev2782
@ev2782 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandwhichism I still wonder how many are like this... Believing that stan lee discovered the comic and knew nothing about Steve dikto and kirby 😂😂😂... He said he is a originator 😂😂😂 originator of what? Stealing??
@malekartorian3054
@malekartorian3054 2 жыл бұрын
This man is an authentic character just look at him
@invisiblefan2387
@invisiblefan2387 2 жыл бұрын
I know Moore has never been a fan of Stan but his work at the time was revolutionary.
@alandoane9168
@alandoane9168 2 жыл бұрын
He was a traffic director and cheerleader. Kirby and Ditko were the revolutionaries at Marvel.
@TheseBitchesWantNikes
@TheseBitchesWantNikes 2 жыл бұрын
@@alandoane9168 this
@arthurfranklin9315
@arthurfranklin9315 2 жыл бұрын
I think Alan is admitting that here, but he is also tooting the horn of the 1980s, which is when the next revolution in comic book writing happened.
@user-ww3op9qy1d
@user-ww3op9qy1d 4 ай бұрын
This man taught me that when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares right back at you. Master of story, Alan Moore.
@professorminstrels6460
@professorminstrels6460 2 жыл бұрын
God this mans voice is amazing
@tyrfree5733
@tyrfree5733 2 жыл бұрын
You can say I'm a student of this man as well as Roy Thomas. Both of these dudes pretty much taught me that when you write a character, you have to basically write a virtual human being. That means you have to get to a point where you are watching this character go through their daily lives in your mind, and then your job is to pretty much record the events. When this happens you no longer are thinking about static images, you are seeing another reality. Someplace more fantastic than the reality that you live in. At that point, It's not just about trying to immerse yourself,That happens automatically because this human is so interesting. Of course there are scenarios that you place the front of this virtual being, but you begin to notice that you don't have to think for the character anymore. It takes a life all its own. Sometimes the outcome is crazy and you say you know what? I can't write that shit :-) so you edit it. But for the most part you get a very satisfying story. And when the story is done you find yourself missing that entire world and that character that was in that world. I have no doubt that some of the best stories that we've ever read and human history, were characters that were fleshed out this way. You have to see these characters live, you can't do it the other way around where you create them and control EVERY single movement that they do. That's just not being alive. That's not a living thing. That's not what you should do to something that is a product or should be a product of free thought in the first place. after all characters are an extension of your own mind and your thought processes and maybe, just a little bit of connecting to the universe itself and some sort of alternate reality :-) That last part could be wrong but it's fun to imagine it at least.
@ahmedshahid7673
@ahmedshahid7673 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with you. While reading your comment I felt I was reading my own thoughts 😅
@pedjanedeljkovic7021
@pedjanedeljkovic7021 Жыл бұрын
Alan Moore is my idol.
@dragonmasterlance123
@dragonmasterlance123 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an amateur writer myself but I've always tried to flesh out characters as much as humanly possible. Besides a full name and personality traits/flaws I always have notes on things like birthdays, siblings, etc, just in case I ever need or decide to reference them. This is very assuring advice. Some of my favorites though are the Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul writers. They manage to give so much depth and personality to even minor/one off characters (though obviously the incredible casting contributes to that too).
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 24 күн бұрын
Not challenging you but based on this breakdown I'm not sure what you find reassuring about this. He's talking about character agency, in this it sounds like you're talking more about character trivia.
@juansamudio1171
@juansamudio1171 2 жыл бұрын
I can hear this man of wisdom talk all day
@thedeadd.c.207
@thedeadd.c.207 2 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore doing a project for the BBC. What a topsy turvy world we live in. He's like the cool grandad all aspiring writers want. He has the wizard look on point.
@cosmosofinfinity
@cosmosofinfinity 2 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore is the GOAT
@thepoleontheroad
@thepoleontheroad 8 ай бұрын
Even before I watched this, he reminded me of Dumbledore so much. Now he's Dumbledore 100%. Seriously, his graphic novels are some of my favourites.
@Transformers217
@Transformers217 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite graphic novels are Watchmen and From Hell. I also love The Dark Knight Returns, which was written by Frank Miller when he use to be a great writer. But Alan Moore is my number 1, next to Neil Gaiman.
@ernestocaro9802
@ernestocaro9802 2 жыл бұрын
Great novels, although I hate the font on 'From Hell' it makes it very difficult to read it
@bennichol1510
@bennichol1510 2 жыл бұрын
@@ernestocaro9802 I was like that with league of extraordinary gentleman when it's diary entries. From an artistic point of view I completely get why it's like that but for me I just had a hard time reading those parts
@spiderjerusalem4009
@spiderjerusalem4009 2 жыл бұрын
@@ernestocaro9802 Get the coloured version characters' distinguishment was much more comprehensible
@agitatedzone
@agitatedzone 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get into Promethea and, when it arrives, Voice of the Fire.
@gabrielcomic
@gabrielcomic Жыл бұрын
I like pretty much every comic book written by Mr Moore, but I specially love Tom Strong, an underrated series that is full of imagination and enterntainment
@jestermorales03
@jestermorales03 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see him still active!!!
@matthewschwartz6607
@matthewschwartz6607 Жыл бұрын
Yesss! I love Alan Moore. I read that he retired from comics , though. Too bad .
@Gruso57
@Gruso57 2 жыл бұрын
Living legend. Moore is, in my opinion, the greatest graphic novel writer ever. He would be considered top 5 if he ONLY wrote watchmen. But he's done so much more on top of that to solidify his greatness dipping into DC comics, lovecraftian horror, and of course V for Vendetta
@lpjunior999
@lpjunior999 2 жыл бұрын
Man’s a genius and his advice is high school level. C’mon Alan blow our minds!
@jreese7436
@jreese7436 2 жыл бұрын
That's the gag. The best fictional character he created is who you thin he is.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 24 күн бұрын
A poorly written character will do good things for good reasons. A well written character will do bad things for good reasons. A great character will do personal things for personal reasons. Not to say they are cynical or self-absorbed, just to say moral judgment is an assessment made after the fact. They act amorally and remain true to themselves. The example I always give is a man is captured in an armed conflict between two nations, he's from a third country, and is told by his captors one one side of the conflict to shoot and kill a prisoner from the opposition side. He refuses because he won't kill a man to save his own life. His country rescues him, and in the process he makes a point of freeing the prisoner he was ordered to kill. Later an order comes down from his own government that he is to find and kill the very same man he rescued. Which he does without question, or hesitation. Since the order is from two different sources in two different contexts the one he refuses and the one he chooses to follow inevitably give us crystal clear insight into his character.
@broadcastallsongs
@broadcastallsongs 2 жыл бұрын
Never been into writing myself but always fun to listen to a great like Moore talk about their craft.
@RajTamil
@RajTamil 2 жыл бұрын
Something more interesting than a 3 dimensional character that you know completely would be a character that you want to think you know but who's motivations and thinking is complex enough to genuinely surprise/confuse you.
@RajTamil
@RajTamil 2 жыл бұрын
@championchap The author can know who the character is without revealing the fleshed out story of "why" and instead mislead the reader into thinking they know who the character really is but then throw in a choice that genuinely surprises them. The reader naturally wants to identify with the character but it is more interesting to be in conflict with the characters motivations/intentions so they are less predictable. This allows the character to do things that go against reasonable judgement and opens them up to growing or changing.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 24 күн бұрын
This is too clever by half, since this is the basic description of a typical well written three-dimensional character. Not "better than one" The whole point is the writer knows the character so well, they have such nuance and subtlety of motivation that the audience can't help but be surprised because the typical audience member's outlook on the whole world is overly simplistic.
@ericburris962
@ericburris962 2 жыл бұрын
Love this man
@dr.shivago2404
@dr.shivago2404 2 жыл бұрын
This is the last thing I would have ever expected
@TheoTattaglia
@TheoTattaglia 2 жыл бұрын
Alan could narrate the history of the entire universe
@kin4386
@kin4386 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how he can make such basic knowledge sound so informative.
@kin4386
@kin4386 2 жыл бұрын
@King Mob He's old. It's not his fault lmao
@devilsadvocate4081
@devilsadvocate4081 2 жыл бұрын
He just spoke to my soul.
@David-mg1yj
@David-mg1yj 7 ай бұрын
Brilliantly simple and concise.
@CaravelClerihew
@CaravelClerihew 2 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore, rocking the RM's
@aresaurelian
@aresaurelian 29 күн бұрын
Well put.
@firebladetenn6633
@firebladetenn6633 6 ай бұрын
This is truly good advice. It's base level, so I didn't learn anything here...but I have a few old friends I wish I still knew the number of, because I would want to send them this video. Have a character I talked with a friend about, and they told me two things that still make me cringe to this day. One, any character you can't describe with two periods and five commas is a poorly written character. I have asked literary critics, published authors, and university proffessors about this, and I can't even find the grain of truth it might be based on. Nobody will back this up. Two, they wanted my character to have a "Flaw." I had given my character a relatively complicated set of flaws, and they suggested that "Maybe he should be an alcoholic, or socially awkward." All the way up until the last time I talked with them, they were offended that I would never take their writing advice.
@incognitosecret2377
@incognitosecret2377 2 жыл бұрын
Great and simple.
@evalramman7502
@evalramman7502 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@tommy_bedward
@tommy_bedward 2 жыл бұрын
He is brilliant.
@vagabundorkchaosmagick-use2898
@vagabundorkchaosmagick-use2898 2 жыл бұрын
Best living writer. I have nothing but respect for Alan Moore.
@warlockofwordsreturnsrb4358
@warlockofwordsreturnsrb4358 2 жыл бұрын
A prime example of his skills with characterization would be William Gull in From Hell. Could've so easily slipped into moustache-twirling, but far from it.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 2 жыл бұрын
I often think of his line "Will man be given marvels only when he has lost all capacity for wonder?" That really seems to typify people today, who are so jaded about everything.
@spiderjerusalem4009
@spiderjerusalem4009 2 жыл бұрын
that graphic novel was sometimes a very hard read. I couldn't identify which character was being referred to when some had been drawn the same way(same facial express i mean). I need summary for every chapter. I'm stucked on chapter 3
@Hello-no7gm
@Hello-no7gm 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiderjerusalem4009 it is definitely a hard read and the art doesn't help But stick with it, it's worth it
@spiderjerusalem4009
@spiderjerusalem4009 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hello-no7gm yeah, his books've been that way. I have the coloured version now, got more interested
@souljastation5463
@souljastation5463 2 жыл бұрын
You mean, like the movie?
@alpha-centaury
@alpha-centaury Жыл бұрын
Alan Moore Maestro. So accurate statement.
@bironicus
@bironicus 2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to him talk all day his voice is amazing
@FrankNFurter1000
@FrankNFurter1000 2 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore: sheer enchantment.
@joaovasco3059
@joaovasco3059 2 жыл бұрын
My fav Batman comic is The Killing Joke...it is a good example of what he is saying here...what a legend this guy is...
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 24 күн бұрын
Ever heard him talk about it? He beasically hates that comic now..
@joaovasco3059
@joaovasco3059 23 күн бұрын
@@futurestoryteller and?...I said it was my fav Batman comic, and that it is a good example of what is said here...he can love it, then hate it, then love it again, and so?...its his work, he can think of it what he wants, I can still love it or hate it. And I love it, and you can just feel it is an Alan Moore "think", as in Watchmen (my absolute fav), from hell, etc...
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 22 күн бұрын
@@joaovasco3059 I'm pretty sure he would like it if it lived up to his standards.
@joaovasco3059
@joaovasco3059 22 күн бұрын
@@futurestoryteller yes, his standards...again...his, not mine. He can hate his own work, and I can absolutely love it. Dude, I dont know why you are picking on this, its very normal to like some thing by some artist, and that artist hating that thing. It would not be normal if all the consumers liked the same way, and also all the consumers liked exactly the way the artist like. I repeat, the killing joke is MY favorite Batman story ever, and, FOR ME, it is clearly and Alan Moore story, with his approach visible everywhere. He can hate it, I dont mind...
@hexxFemme
@hexxFemme 2 жыл бұрын
i loved this thanks
@DanW909
@DanW909 2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about buying this just so I can hear more from Alan Moore
@Boghopper9999
@Boghopper9999 2 жыл бұрын
Frickin awesome, kudos for pulling this off BBC. Looks great
@jsjp9533
@jsjp9533 2 жыл бұрын
awesome!
@stevensandersauthor
@stevensandersauthor 7 күн бұрын
Excellent
@harrisondejoux8520
@harrisondejoux8520 Жыл бұрын
Why tf is this not a podcast. I would listen to this multiple times.
@Evanderj
@Evanderj 2 жыл бұрын
The first step in the third dimension is for a character to actively contradict themselves. To go against their values, fragmented behavior, etc. The esoteric reason that caused them to do this opens up a whole new world in development- but there must be a reason.
@ReginaVeintitres
@ReginaVeintitres 2 жыл бұрын
I love this guy
@daniarmstrong3023
@daniarmstrong3023 Жыл бұрын
Greatest comic writer E.V.E.R
@johnkidwell4866
@johnkidwell4866 2 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore looks EXACTLY like I thought Alan Moore would look like
@planetofthegames2843
@planetofthegames2843 2 жыл бұрын
Gandalf The Gray is telling me about storytelling What a nice time we're living in
@sopebarrofficial3557
@sopebarrofficial3557 11 ай бұрын
As an aspiring writer, it’s really cool to know I’m doing an alright job, at least in terms of making characters, but all I have to do now is make stuff
@ChicCanyon
@ChicCanyon 2 жыл бұрын
id love to hear this whole interview
@mondy710
@mondy710 2 жыл бұрын
The only graphic novel by Alan Moore that I've ever read was The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Omnibus Edition, and I was mesmerized.
@sibobd7386
@sibobd7386 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll listen to anything this guy says because of Watchmen. One of the best books I’ve ever read.
@PandaApocalypta
@PandaApocalypta 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff! Quite helpful too!
@burpeeslurpy
@burpeeslurpy 2 жыл бұрын
Idgaf about character development but I could listen to hours of this.
@robsonsilva9490
@robsonsilva9490 2 жыл бұрын
Thank's master!
@midianpoet
@midianpoet Жыл бұрын
Exactly, thats the answer that i want write all of the time ! :) Alan doing for me /, not personally, through one amazing man, / something very helpfull, so Yes, he is my Master :)
@lucasmateus7701
@lucasmateus7701 2 жыл бұрын
Promethea is my favorite comic of all time. This guy is unbelievable.
@dreammfyre
@dreammfyre 2 жыл бұрын
The 2D ones are honestly worse. They’re just 1D characters but the writer knows it and tries to hide that fact by manipulating the readers.
@jocajabberwocky8759
@jocajabberwocky8759 2 жыл бұрын
O________O
@driveasandwich6734
@driveasandwich6734 2 жыл бұрын
Having 2D characters can be useful. If a very minor character is 2D, that can make them fascinating.
@spiderjerusalem4009
@spiderjerusalem4009 2 жыл бұрын
the same ol' "my parents are dead, so i'm a super-hero", "dead parents, brother, friends, etc etc etc", "handsome/hot supes". Super repetitive. It's not saddening anymore. Merely stale
@MCVessels
@MCVessels 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiderjerusalem4009 Although your namesake's not very complicated himself, and he's still a great character.
@ALDAL
@ALDAL 2 жыл бұрын
like everything modern comics do
@KMort
@KMort 2 жыл бұрын
If I could, I'd buy this course.
@curtisnewton895
@curtisnewton895 2 жыл бұрын
great yet short explanation
@burningflag3679
@burningflag3679 2 жыл бұрын
I've listened to a lot of people describe this concept. Can honestly say don't think i've ever heard a better example.
@sloansabbath7117
@sloansabbath7117 2 жыл бұрын
I have never heard this man’s voice in my life, Idek what I expected but it’s suuuuuper interesting
@hurrayooo8128
@hurrayooo8128 2 жыл бұрын
يابة الآن موور نستاهل واخيرا انشوفك ببرنامج تتكلم وتعرض مهارتك الفنية علينة . محبيك من مدينة الصدر بغداد
@groovecouple4644
@groovecouple4644 2 жыл бұрын
Loved your MiracleMan series Alan! And Swamp Thing, God yes you made that horrific…
@onefordespair
@onefordespair 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished Watchmen, reading V For Vendetta now.
@stefanleo8963
@stefanleo8963 2 жыл бұрын
Just here to say, I've watched the king's man. and I feel this video cannot be unseen
@The2KXperience
@The2KXperience 2 жыл бұрын
This is why one of my favorite comic book villains has always been Dr. Doom. Doom truly believes the world will be better if he was in charge of everything, and there's been several very important comic book storylines revolving around the idea of "Yeah, he's kinda being a dick about it, but honestly, he's kinda right." That level of nuance makes him so multi-faceted to where he's been portrayed as a heroic villain, a villainous hero, and everywhere in-between. It's a shame no films have managed to get him right so far, hopefully the MCU will finally do the character justice.
@JohnLutherable
@JohnLutherable 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Doom is a despot, but a highly benevolent one; he's so good at it it makes you wonder; Latveria is a goddamned paradise under his rule: no hunger, no wars, no poverty, no nation even dares to invade due to Doom's incredible technology which one would assume could obliterate any nation's army in seconds; he cares deeply about his people, plus I can only wonder how good is their economy with all the expensive tech he probably sells around the world. Yes, he is a dictator, but who cares at that point when you're living in the best nation on the planet
@Wingedmagician
@Wingedmagician 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a legend
@cbono90Productions
@cbono90Productions 2 ай бұрын
the interesting thing about the evolution of characterization is that a successful one dimensional character can eventually evolve through the time that they exist in the writer's unvierse and reader's universe into a 3 dimensional character in that way you describe there Moore, no? Love the clip, looking forward to being a position wherein I can take the class!
@imdhepchannel7153
@imdhepchannel7153 2 жыл бұрын
Aaah the masterful shades he threw on dear Papa Stan. Regardless, love them both!
@dilenderagent1519
@dilenderagent1519 2 жыл бұрын
I actually found this very related to another video I have seen, which talked about making "4th dimensional characters." The issue with 3 dimensional characters is that while they are complex and you know all about them, they have one character arc, and usually one goal, or at least several goals related to one theme. 4th Dimensional characters have at least 2, if not more, character arcs that are very different from each other and can even clash with each other. This is hard thing to do in writing, and I've only seen one example of this happening effectively (Silco from Arcane), but it is a very powerful tool if done right. So I guess 3 dimensional characters are not the final form of characters. Also from the video where I learned about 4th dimensional characters, I was given the impression that 1 dimensional and 2 dimensional characters were practically the same. Glad to know there is an actual difference.
@ComplexMotives
@ComplexMotives Жыл бұрын
What are some other examples of 4 dimensional characters?
@dilenderagent1519
@dilenderagent1519 Жыл бұрын
@@ComplexMotives Honestly, I have no idea. I got the idea from a video I watched. It was a good video too. I wish I remember what it was. I also haven't personally seen anything else that made 4th dimensional characters. So yeah.
@arturodiaz8018
@arturodiaz8018 2 жыл бұрын
Un genio ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@turdfurgsonfunnyname2957
@turdfurgsonfunnyname2957 7 ай бұрын
Bad Leg!!! Yes I’m so happy he said that. Stewart Lee Chain Reactiom interview. One of the first YT videos I found. Lol Bad Leg!!!
@maxsharpe2194
@maxsharpe2194 2 жыл бұрын
"Apparently a bad leg is a character trait." Wonderful shade Alan.
@panchodizon3789
@panchodizon3789 2 жыл бұрын
what character is he alluding to?
@maxsharpe2194
@maxsharpe2194 2 жыл бұрын
@@panchodizon3789 not sure. Google is a tab over, I would suggest starting there.
@panchodizon3789
@panchodizon3789 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxsharpe2194 "comic book character bad leg" yields no concrete results
@atlekulild3219
@atlekulild3219 2 жыл бұрын
@@panchodizon3789 He might be referring to Donald Blake, Thor's alter ego.
@gregmilne4378
@gregmilne4378 2 жыл бұрын
@@panchodizon3789 I don't think he's directly referencing a character, I think he's maybe parodying characters like Iron Man & Daredevil who had health conditions or disabilities.
@GiovaneSaRaujoj
@GiovaneSaRaujoj 2 жыл бұрын
amagazing
@Pretzels722
@Pretzels722 2 жыл бұрын
This is the voice of god.
@RicardoPetinga
@RicardoPetinga 2 жыл бұрын
A living legend.
@muteguy341
@muteguy341 2 жыл бұрын
for me, writing is like magic. You create world and people and even history of that world. Then when other people read your work, it's like you invite them and show them the world that you created. And no one can give you a better advice than Professor Dumbledore.
@flower_girl4983
@flower_girl4983 Жыл бұрын
His dig at Stan lee is hilarious n good
@onairmastering
@onairmastering 2 жыл бұрын
What about John Constantine, Alan? you created the BEST character ever written. I wonder how many pages of traits you can write about him.
@someperson9999
@someperson9999 Жыл бұрын
I would argue that when it comes to characters, it's not only important to know what they think, but how they think. You need to know how they came to the conclusions that are driving they're behavior. What someone believes, and how much they believe it, can explain an action, but how they believe what they believe explains the deep personal drive within them, that brought them to their current conclusions of the world. No matter how depraved or unreasonable they're conclusions may seem. Or how touching and personal they're conclusions may seem.
@dmytroshevchenko9468
@dmytroshevchenko9468 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a writer. I just love to listen to Alan Moore. I would kill to have that accent.
@BrendanJSmith
@BrendanJSmith 2 жыл бұрын
Can we have this man do audiobooks please?
@walterhoward5512
@walterhoward5512 2 жыл бұрын
I've always had a lot of respect for Alan Moore. He's probably the greatest comic writer of all time and a man of true integrity. The only criticism I've ever had for him is his view of Stan Lee. Moore has said that Lee didn't add anything to the comics and even went so far as to accuse Lee of things that Lee didn't do. It's sad.
@tomwilliamson3637
@tomwilliamson3637 2 жыл бұрын
It's sad that Stan Lee stole credit and was complicit in the corporate maneuvering to cheat the real creators of the Marvel universe out of fair compensation and their place in history. It's a disgrace how Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko et al were treated, and disgusting how Stan Lee is celebrated by the uninformed.
@walterhoward5512
@walterhoward5512 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomwilliamson3637 There is always a lot of talk about Lee stealing credit, but I honestly haven't seen much real evidence of that. He was giving credit to Lee and Ditko as co-plotters and sole creators of characters like Dr. Strange and the Silver Surfer as far back as the late 60s. There are old interviews during the original Lee/Ditko Spidey run where he said Ditko was doing all the plotting for Spider-Man. He has a definition of "creator" which not everyone will agree with, but he was always giving his artists credit. Did Lee get more credit than he deserved? Maybe. But he was still an important figure in the creation of those comics. In terms of stealing money, they were all paid well for their work at the time. Lee got more money in the end because he stayed at Marvel. Kirby was offered a staff position at Marvel and turned it down. Would Ditko have even considered that kind of job? I doubt it. I'm sorry, but in the end Lee got more money because he worked for decades building the Marvel brand. Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby weren't in Hollywood making deals on cartoons and TV shows. Lee was and he got paid for that work.
@tomwilliamson3637
@tomwilliamson3637 2 жыл бұрын
@@walterhoward5512 Stan Lee wrote for 20 years at Marvel (then Timely) before Kirby, and created nothing memorable or lasting. Kirby spent that time creating new genres and a multitude of celebrated and lasting characters. After Kirby left Lee retreated into editorial - he knew the jig was up. The only characters of any note he 'created' after that were the derivative 'She-Hulk' and the risible 'Stripperella'. Kirby went on to reinvigorate DC with many new characters and concepts, and again at Marvel when he returned. Marvel rewarded Lee's bullshit (which safeguarded the copyrights for the corporation) by paying him a million dollars a year for the rest of his life. They wouldn't even give Kirby his original art back (unless he signed a waiver dismissing all copyright claims to his Marvel characters - he refused). Fanboys like you who buy into the corporate smokescreen Lee was a party to are complicit in the exploitation of artists and the degradation of art into commerce. Shame on you.
@walterhoward5512
@walterhoward5512 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomwilliamson3637 ​ @Tom Williamson I'm not going to attack Kirby's legacy pre-FF#1, but I do think it's funny that for as much as some people love to say that Lee is stealing credit, these same people do love to say that Kirby created the romance genre while ignoring the history of romance comic strips that directly inspired Kirby's work in the romance genre. Just saying. I'm not going to attack Kirby's work after leaving Marvel. He did some good stuff and was probably more creative than Lee. Does that mean that Kirby did everything and Lee was just leeching off of Kirby's brilliance? No. Not at all. Stan wasn't creating every single plot point or character and has admitted as much, but he had a hand in literally every part of the creation of those comics and nothing went in them that he didn't want in them. He was an important figure and not just Kirby's lackey.
@petermj1098
@petermj1098 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomwilliamson3637 ​ Stan Lee created Kingpin, Daredevil, Mephisto, Hawkeye, Black Widow without Kirby and Ditko. Jack Kirby's credited sole creations were more about God/religion-related characters. Ditko is known to want to make Ayn Rand objectivist characters more than a traditional superhero. When Lee worked with Kirby and Ditko they made stories about very humanized characters with their own personal struggles while being superheroes/supervillains. Most of Kirby and Ditko's credited sole creations are not like that at all in terms of their writing of them. Just cause Lee wasn't the sole creator does not mean he does not have the right he said he made the characters. And Lee never stripped away Kirby and Ditko name or ever claimed to be sole creator. It seems the only reason people hate Lee more is cause Kirby and Ditko made the mistake of not securing a good ownership deal in the first place. Lee hired them to make characters with him and they accepted it for short-term freelance rather than truly invest in the properties long-term. Lee has been investing and advertising these characters even when Marvel was economically bad.
@angrycat1232
@angrycat1232 2 жыл бұрын
based and authentically pilled
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