Alan Wake 2 - PlayStation 5 DF Tech Review - Remedy Raises The Bar Yet Again

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We've been waiting for this one with eager anticipation and Remedy does not disappoint. In our first Alan Wake 2 video, Oliver Mackenzie dissects the visuals, stacks up the PlayStation 5 version up against PC maxed out, comments on image quality and performance before delivering the verdict on the game itself. Before embargo, only PS5 and PC review code was delivered. We will return to the game on Xbox Series consoles as soon as we have the game.
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00:00 Overview
01:02 Visual features
06:39 PC graphics comparison
10:14 Image quality and performance
13:11 Analysis and conclusion

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@zedsdeadbaby
@zedsdeadbaby 8 ай бұрын
After seeing Sam Lake as a cop at the beginning of this video, I REALLY hope they use him again for the Max Payne remake. It would be criminal not to!
@Totone56
@Totone56 8 ай бұрын
Alex Casey has Sam Lake's face, and Ryan McCaffrey's voice ! The hero of Alan Wake's books always was "Max Payne but not Max Payne", and they stuck with it 100%, it's awesome.
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom 8 ай бұрын
Rockstar owns the Max Payne IP. So don't expect a good "remake"
@marrsil
@marrsil 8 ай бұрын
​@@BurritoKingdom I hope the just call it Pain Max and give us a proper sequel or remake. I loved the first two games. I mean Remedy not R*.
@SGSOnlineTV
@SGSOnlineTV 8 ай бұрын
​@@BurritoKingdomI don't know who really holds the rights (and if it's even that simple, maybe Rockstar has the distribution rights but not the character rights?), but Remedy have already confirmed that they are making the remake
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom 8 ай бұрын
@@SGSOnlineTV Rockstar owns the IP, that's why they were able to make Max Payne 3 without Remedy. I believe Remedy still owns the rights to the source code for 1&2. So Rockstar can't use any of the code and has to contact Remedy for 1&2 unless Rockstar does a full remake ala Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes. Though I believe the remake for Max Payne 1&2 is going to be in the style of The Last of Us Part 1, mainly graphical upgrades and modernized control and gameplay with the gist of the game being similar to the originals, which is why Rockstar had to make a deal with Remedy, since they'll probably reuse some of the data.
@elone3997
@elone3997 8 ай бұрын
It's amazing to see what was traditionally only available from offline rendering being offered up in realtime now - technologically and artistically beautiful! Both console and PC look superb regardless of the extras enabled/disabled as you play what you have. That said, seeing the accurate, depth accurate diffused shadows of the the foliage on the PC is kind of incredible! Hats off Remedy..👍👍
@cube2fox
@cube2fox 8 ай бұрын
Though the reviewer mentions that the game uses baked lighting for global illumination, which is done offline.
@elone3997
@elone3997 8 ай бұрын
@@cube2fox Ahh..I missed that part - was 75% paying attention...thanks for clarifying though 👍☺️ Edit: I went back and yes, your correct. Still though, it will still be a dynamic use of baked GI with all the added lighting passes like reflections, cast shadows, AO etc. Amazing..
@thepsychedelicmicroscope4688
@thepsychedelicmicroscope4688 8 ай бұрын
@@cube2foxI’m at work now so I can’t watch. Is the baked solution on pc as well.
@skaterkolesch
@skaterkolesch 8 ай бұрын
@@thepsychedelicmicroscope4688 pc has pathtracing
@thepsychedelicmicroscope4688
@thepsychedelicmicroscope4688 8 ай бұрын
@@skaterkolesch thanks
@ShepardC0mmander
@ShepardC0mmander 8 ай бұрын
The Sam Lake rendering looks spot on.
@SomePotato
@SomePotato 8 ай бұрын
I was shocked that DF is casually spoiling a surprise Max Payne appearance in Alan Wake 2. But apparently that's not the case, so all good. :D
@MERCERENiTY
@MERCERENiTY 8 ай бұрын
Its worth noting, how impressive the positioning of the 3rd person camera is. Seems like its a alteration of fish eye lens, with a flare. I'm used to (and maybe everybody) withnessing a typical 3rd person or 2nd person perspective in games.
@Kders
@Kders 8 ай бұрын
So relieved this analysis is available pre launch.
@nathanielgirma8265
@nathanielgirma8265 8 ай бұрын
Facts
@JamieRobert_
@JamieRobert_ 8 ай бұрын
Now I don’t want to buy it lol saves you money
@Cogglesz
@Cogglesz 8 ай бұрын
& the PC version also? Usually that's a big sign of confidence from developers! :) It's great to see!
@gavinderulo12
@gavinderulo12 8 ай бұрын
​@@CoggleszAlex usually doesn't hit the embargo in time. But I'm sure he's had the game for a while already.
@johnboylan3832
@johnboylan3832 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, what on Earth would you do if a game was bad?
@FigmentHF
@FigmentHF 8 ай бұрын
Looks great, but the aliasing seems pretty extreme, image stability has come to be something I’ve really appreciated in this current gen
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 8 ай бұрын
Because it's sub native resolution
@DJBV
@DJBV 8 ай бұрын
Fsr 2 sucks thats why
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- 8 ай бұрын
Spiderman 2 is impressive. Sharp, 60fps, rt reflections no ssr break-up 💟
@fenrir_the_eight
@fenrir_the_eight 8 ай бұрын
It's because game is so poorly optimized that it needs fsr to barely even provide 30fps. It's a completely shameful display. I mean look at the shadows, look at the textures. It's worse than Arkham Knight that released in 2015 on previous gen.
@Cshizzle94
@Cshizzle94 8 ай бұрын
Aliasing is terrible unfortunately and automatically makes Spiderman 2 likely to win Digital Foundrys best graphics award due to the genius optimization. Alan Wake doesn't even have Ray Tracing and is hitting sub 20 fps in quality mode. Not a great look.
@starfirex2413
@starfirex2413 8 ай бұрын
Looks awesome on both PS5 and PC! I'd really love to see a 40 fps mode on PS5 for 120 Hz TVs, as a compromise between performance and frame rate. A game like this would be perfect for that.
@ppapiurek
@ppapiurek 8 ай бұрын
I agree. I usually use 60fps anyway, but in this game, with very little combat, 40fps would do the trick.
@reddonut1518
@reddonut1518 8 ай бұрын
Yknow I’d bet that they’re working on it as we speak. There’s no way they didn’t think of it
@cbgg1585
@cbgg1585 8 ай бұрын
It is a shame how many sheep on socials are skipping this due to a lack of a physical. Kind of a farce reason for boycotting a game imo, especially when it is as polished as this!
@machiavelli6996
@machiavelli6996 8 ай бұрын
@@cbgg1585 because you don’t own the game just the right to play it…. I’ve got the digital and for some reason the graphics are bad on ps5 for me.
@terminusaquo1980
@terminusaquo1980 8 ай бұрын
@@machiavelli6996 If you read the license agreement even with a physical copy you only own the disc, plastic box and the rights to play the game, not the game itself.
@cameronpavelic500
@cameronpavelic500 8 ай бұрын
This is such an exciting time for tech and human history. 20 years ago we went from blocks painted to look like characters to photographic CG movie quality characters rendered in real time, as well as fully simulated lighting that is almost as close to bringing in an actual light source straight from the real world. It won’t even be another 20 years before we create worlds indistinguishable from our own. That’s literally right around the corner, and we all get to be here to see it happen. Exciting stuff!
@treemux8185
@treemux8185 8 ай бұрын
Yeah photorealistic graphics and boring slop movie games are the future!
@TheeRogerWayne
@TheeRogerWayne 8 ай бұрын
​@@treemux8185at the end of the day people just want games that are fun to play, and graphics don't change that.. dont care how pretty it is.
@DANNYonPC
@DANNYonPC 8 ай бұрын
Such an impressive looking game
@Threshk
@Threshk 8 ай бұрын
@@JamieRobert_ Tell us where the evil, evil consoles touched you.
@jcdenton868
@jcdenton868 8 ай бұрын
@@JamieRobert_ So should consoles provide same quality than high end pc? Imo this is the correct way to make the game to respect all platforms. Keep in mind even most of pc players won't run the game as shown in the video.
@brenohenrique9743
@brenohenrique9743 8 ай бұрын
@@jcdenton868 Yeah well,people still said this game would be a better release in consoles,which it isn't and in fact the game runs like shit in both platforms.
@fvallo
@fvallo 8 ай бұрын
Re4 look better and runs 50times better
@herpderp9394
@herpderp9394 8 ай бұрын
gonna cry?@@JamieRobert_
@brendanconaway
@brendanconaway 8 ай бұрын
Long time DF viewer- Ollie, love the work you do! - and I'd also really benefit from adding resolution numbers to your videos alongside your reporting of them. That visual component makes it easier to "hear" and process the numbers your delivering. Tom, for instance, does a great job of this in his vids and I think it really helps me entertain the resolution numbers a bit easier. Keep up the great work and I hope you'll consider!
@apexsosapex1014
@apexsosapex1014 8 ай бұрын
i impressed how ps5 stacked up to pc in terms of graphics and lighting, usually, in the games when the lighting relies heavily on rt, devs forget about rasterized lighting causing it to look much worse, but in this game devs didn't forget about regular players without 2000$ gpus and made rasterized lighting look really good, huge respect
@weaponcomparisoninvideogam5505
@weaponcomparisoninvideogam5505 8 ай бұрын
At 847p yes
@flockelocke2297
@flockelocke2297 8 ай бұрын
All games that have a PS5 version stack up good enough to PC and run great except some messes. And some PS5 games have the best visuals in general like Spider-Man 2, God of War Ragnarok, Horizon FW, Last of Us Remake or Ratchet until they come to PC. That's why I don't get how some PC players play with great rigs on 1080p or 1440p displays when like every game on a PS5 and on a 4K display is better than on a 1080p or 1440p display.
@flockelocke2297
@flockelocke2297 8 ай бұрын
@@weaponcomparisoninvideogam5505 don't focus so much on overall resolution numbers when there is much more to it. Overall resolution does not tell you the texture res and 2 games can be 1440p and it doesn't say anything about the graphics and how good they are and that they are equally crisp.
@hamzashaikh9310
@hamzashaikh9310 8 ай бұрын
​@@flockelocke2297Do you not watch the same video as everyone else did ? 60fps mode has less than 1080p native resolution, while a 4090 can easily run at native 4k at locked 60fps which is more than 400% the resolution of a ps5 at the same fps, not to mention it does with a higher image quality from using rt. Why people think ps5 or xbox is even remotely close to high end pc gpus and cpus i dont know.
@flockelocke2297
@flockelocke2297 8 ай бұрын
@@hamzashaikh9310 Dude, the avarage PC gamer and many more have no 4090 card, okay? Lmao where did I say it's close to a high end PC? 🤷 I said they are good enough.
@thatfreakingeek
@thatfreakingeek 8 ай бұрын
I think something that was missed in this video was how impressive the lighting is from a distance looking into buildings. Most games can treat their lighting like a camera does, over exposing the background so that whatever is in close focus can be well lit. But in Alan Wake 2, it brilliantly shows light inside buildings like how the naked eye would. This results in it feeling way more real. This is hard to explain in text, and so I hope I am making sense!😅 Anyone else notice that?
@Tom-bv1sc
@Tom-bv1sc 8 ай бұрын
Beasts! Remedy are killing it. Creativity+talent can never fail.
@OfTheOverflow
@OfTheOverflow 8 ай бұрын
The art direction and technical realisation is incredible. Amazing job team!
@andreasoberg2021
@andreasoberg2021 8 ай бұрын
Control was incredible. Cant wait to try this!
@AmbientDatabase
@AmbientDatabase 8 ай бұрын
I was sooo waiting for this one. Thanks, DF team
@SuperMunkeh
@SuperMunkeh 8 ай бұрын
I am so excited to play this - the weekend can't come any sooner. What a year for games 2023 has been - still have such a backlog and there's even more to come😅
@andytunnah7650
@andytunnah7650 8 ай бұрын
I'll probably wait for the next gen of cards before playing it but ya it looks incredible. Also gives times for patches, DLC, all that. I'm always happy when there's this super demanding game that comes out that pushes forward what we can expect in some games going forward (the biggie being CP2077, warts and all). I hope the discourse around this is successfully re-aligned from "it's unoptimised!" to "it's just a beast dude, not every game is for every rig"
@jesusdiaz270
@jesusdiaz270 8 ай бұрын
I always find funny when people compare a 550$ console with a 2000$ GPU + 300$ CPU. I don't know how is that useful for anybody, of course it looks better.
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 8 ай бұрын
This game looks incredible. Easily one of the best if not the best looking game I’ve ever played so far.
@ItsmeDemon-bp4vc
@ItsmeDemon-bp4vc 8 ай бұрын
You played it on Ps5???
@simonrockstream
@simonrockstream 8 ай бұрын
Obviously no@@ItsmeDemon-bp4vc
@matiasvaisanen8359
@matiasvaisanen8359 8 ай бұрын
easy
@1wayroad935
@1wayroad935 8 ай бұрын
Looking forward to all the nutty things they will do with the visuals
@lukemoonwalker8444
@lukemoonwalker8444 8 ай бұрын
Remedy is by far my favourite western studio, their games are incredible gifts to us Lynch fans!
@crispybottom
@crispybottom 8 ай бұрын
@@bryanedds8922 damn, quarterpounder is leaking again. Somebody get the piss rag!
@paprikayes
@paprikayes 8 ай бұрын
@@bryanedds8922what does this mean
@pikachupika2220
@pikachupika2220 8 ай бұрын
lost highway, my favorite movie! :3
@Flaggyt
@Flaggyt 8 ай бұрын
​@@paprikayesI don't know but "he" is screaming the same gibbirish over and over, probably a bot or mentally unstable.
@bzinirb6986
@bzinirb6986 8 ай бұрын
Play this on qualtiy Mode and leave the settings on Standard... it looks really good. Turn on dtm if lg oled
@jorgenl19955
@jorgenl19955 8 ай бұрын
The shot at 8:51 literally had me pause the video and say "holy sh*t" out loud. That looks downright real.
@blaineharker7298
@blaineharker7298 8 ай бұрын
It's surreal to me even seeing a sequel to the first game, it's 13 years old now, definitely a pleasant surprise
@berkayjan11
@berkayjan11 8 ай бұрын
It's nice to see good optimization across the board. Smooth 60 fps is commendable effort. Though I guess every new game will need FSR2 for 60fps, that's fine but I would prefer playing it at native resolution on quality mode because even on the video artifacts caused by upscaling are visible.
@enzocrespin5806
@enzocrespin5806 8 ай бұрын
It's sad to see the PS5 being already out of breath after being released so soon (the covid years don't count since nobody could get it and there were few next-gen games for it anyway)
@viniciuseduardobomfim
@viniciuseduardobomfim 8 ай бұрын
Considering the crazy PC requirements, a tight lock on 60 fps for the PS5 was just too much to hope for. Looks gorgeous though! Remedy's in-house engine, Northlight, has been one my favorites since Quantum Break. It's great to see they keep building upon it.
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 8 ай бұрын
It's clearly a shit optimized engine if modern PC hardware cannot natively render it
@chase7974
@chase7974 8 ай бұрын
​@@fillerbunnyninjashark271Given the rendering techniques that haven't been implemented in any game so far, it makes sense that the requirements are high. This is going to be the best looking game so far.
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 8 ай бұрын
@@chase7974 running at 540p resolution... This isn't 1997
@TheGoncas2
@TheGoncas2 8 ай бұрын
The recommended resolution for RTX 3070 was probably a typo. People have tested it and it runs at 60fps with NATIVE 1080p. Remedy probably meant 1440p+DLSS Performance.
@63alkash
@63alkash 8 ай бұрын
I mean, don't you remember how terrible QB was on launch
@brurpo
@brurpo 8 ай бұрын
the intro should have mentioned quantum breaks real time GI, it was amazing.
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 8 ай бұрын
Wow! The shadows and visuals on PC maxed out are stunning! Looks great on PS5 too.
@gaborszabo7765
@gaborszabo7765 8 ай бұрын
Pc 🤡🤡
@kamalaharry9514
@kamalaharry9514 8 ай бұрын
PS5 has no reflections 😂
@Nessmith11
@Nessmith11 8 ай бұрын
Not sure why DF is on about here but I have to agree the reflections on PS5 are terrible. I honestly wish there was a way to turn them off completely as they are honestly distracting and completely take you out of a game that is obviously going for a hyper realistic setting. PC is definitely the way to go here if possible.
@Battleneter
@Battleneter 8 ай бұрын
@@Nessmith11 PS5 looks pretty good for low end hardware imo, but as always consoles start showing their age big time around half way through their life cycle.
@Nessmith11
@Nessmith11 8 ай бұрын
The PS5 is barely three years old though. I know that can technically be a long time when considering hardware revisions, but I still feel like it should look better then it does.
@TANuclear
@TANuclear 8 ай бұрын
There is nothing bar raising about HD-ready resolutions for anything higher than 30fps nor barely Full-HD resolution for quality mode
@1995griff1995
@1995griff1995 7 ай бұрын
I agree.... It is quite concerning that the quality mode is not even 1440p natively.. Seems this generation is aging very quick.
@GaminylGames
@GaminylGames 8 ай бұрын
Oh man Oliver how are you not more stoked on this!? This looks and runs absolutely amazing AND it's good. That's such a rarity.
@BlueisNotaWarmColour
@BlueisNotaWarmColour 8 ай бұрын
He praised it repeatedly
@jtjones4727
@jtjones4727 8 ай бұрын
I'm a huge David Lynch fan, and I love how this game wears that influence on it's sleeve so to speak.
@burtwonk
@burtwonk 8 ай бұрын
Looks incredible 😮
@jonzo99
@jonzo99 8 ай бұрын
This game visually looks stunning on both PC and Console! I've never played Alan Wake but recently bought a 4090 and recieved a code for a copy of Alan Wake 2 so I'm looking forward to trying this out.
@bukko
@bukko 8 ай бұрын
I feel you! I’m holding out for a 5090, but this will be my first game purchase when that happens.
@joseijosei
@joseijosei 8 ай бұрын
As long as you have a 4000 GPU you have access to DLSS 3 Frame Generation and Nvidia Reflex at the same time, which is a game changer. With your standards (someone who would get a 4090), your experience will be mind blowing.
@JoshuaCBrown
@JoshuaCBrown 8 ай бұрын
@@joseijosei Dude, trying Cyberpunk 2077 with a 4090 and path tracing/frame gen blew my mind. It still blows my mind when I boot it up.
@joseijosei
@joseijosei 8 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaCBrown I know. The game goes from "it holds up to today's standards" to "take NPC models out of the equation, and this game has the best graphics I've ever seen in my life.". It's crazy how good it looks, but for what I'm seeing here, in Alan Wake 2 it's not looking as good as in Cyberpunk, maybe because of the scenarios we're in. Cyberpunk is... literally a cyberpunk city.
@SwitchUpYt
@SwitchUpYt 8 ай бұрын
Great video - I long for the day a Nintendo hardware can push visuals like this! Mark
@nufrequency84
@nufrequency84 8 ай бұрын
They raised the bar so fucking high you can't even see yourself in the mirrors 😂
@WT83
@WT83 8 ай бұрын
Game looks good and I'm glad to see that consoles get a version that looks nice and runs pretty well. Much better than Control did on all of the PS4/XB1 variants. I was watching a PC benchmark video and going down that side path with Saga seems like an early performance hot spot on all systems. Walking back up it is fine but going down it tanks frame rates every time it happens.
@VRGamercz
@VRGamercz 8 ай бұрын
Im honestly surprised how good it looks on console. Another job well done Remedy.
@user-qg7oq6qw5c
@user-qg7oq6qw5c 8 ай бұрын
Whats surprise. Ps5 has best looking games on any platform like Ratchet and Forbidden West.
@West_Anderson
@West_Anderson 8 ай бұрын
So stoked for this game, absolutely love everything Remedy does, they are top notch at story telling.
@crookim
@crookim 8 ай бұрын
Storytelling? Cough...... Control........ Cough.....
@icravedeath.1200
@icravedeath.1200 8 ай бұрын
​@@crookimwho hurt you
@cunt5413
@cunt5413 8 ай бұрын
@@crookim Yes, Control had great story telling. Especially environmental and all the notes and documents were fun to read.
@ladiddas
@ladiddas 8 ай бұрын
@@cunt5413control lore is so fun to read, it’s basically the backbone for the alan wake zaniness
@West_Anderson
@West_Anderson 8 ай бұрын
@@crookim I'm sorry you don't know how to enjoy a good story and atmosphere, I'm sure we can find kids books to entertain you.
@ModernMan23
@ModernMan23 8 ай бұрын
Incredibly gorgeous game. Excited to play tomorrow
@JamieRobert_
@JamieRobert_ 8 ай бұрын
Enjoy playing at 800p resolution with blocky shadows
@ModernMan23
@ModernMan23 8 ай бұрын
1270p with FSR2 upscaled to 4K?? Launch day firmware. C'mon bro don't be like that it looks great on console and LG OLED. I don't have a 4090 so PS5 it is
@lilpain1997
@lilpain1997 8 ай бұрын
@@JamieRobert_ dude, not everyone wants a PC nor does everyone want to spend thousands upfront for one ( I say upfront as consoles go up overtime thanks to online subs and games being far more expensive ). And most people are using upscaling now even those with 4090s, especially if they max the games out like this and cyberpunk
@XTNDEADPLAY
@XTNDEADPLAY 8 ай бұрын
@@lilpain1997seriously, i have a pc but i will always stick to consoles.
@MM-hi
@MM-hi 8 ай бұрын
​@@JamieRobert_stay miserable
@glasslakes
@glasslakes 8 ай бұрын
Oliver is really hardworking. Thank you.
@Fullbatteri
@Fullbatteri 8 ай бұрын
If this game connects to Control and the FBC and the oldest place and The Director (or if she appears) I’m literally going to lose it. I became so in love with its Lore.
@Asycid
@Asycid 8 ай бұрын
It connects, there are some hints even in this DF video: The janitor, Oceanview Motel, the hiss-like surroundings when there are Alan Wake scenes ...etc
@gameboy8877
@gameboy8877 8 ай бұрын
Control referenced Max Payne, Quantum Break, and included Alan Wake in a very important capacity (as in he was the reason the game's events occurred) and now this game includes bits from all of them.
@valentinvas6454
@valentinvas6454 8 ай бұрын
I'm 4 hours in and I've already met a character from Control and seen a reference for another one and there is a note talking about the FBC experimenting around the lake that can be found in just 2 hours in. At this point almost nothing would surprise me.
@gameboy8877
@gameboy8877 8 ай бұрын
and that Lake location is the second dlc@@valentinvas6454
@AGameAnx
@AGameAnx 8 ай бұрын
Beware, as the video contains a few spoilers that can likely change the surprise factor that you might've experienced when playing blind. 11:30 through 11:35 (especially) 4:49 through 4:54 and a little bit in the summary at 13:55 through to 14:27. I think stuff like that probably warranted a warning, but oh well. Thank you DF for the video! Game looks very pretty.
@clidesvi_
@clidesvi_ 8 ай бұрын
11:30 Why the hell would they use that specific shot for the video, like, come on, there's no way they didn't have any other example, ruined such a good surprise for no reason.
@MrInuhanyou123
@MrInuhanyou123 8 ай бұрын
That aliasing looks like dead space prior to patch
@dr.loomis4221
@dr.loomis4221 8 ай бұрын
Remedy games are so atmospheric...looking forward to this one.
@SM-cs3nt
@SM-cs3nt 8 ай бұрын
They need to work on their animations and character models though
@dr.loomis4221
@dr.loomis4221 6 ай бұрын
@@SM-cs3nt I think the character models look great. The animation can be wonky though.
@PBHorrorGaming
@PBHorrorGaming 8 ай бұрын
The game looks great!
@xzraiderzx308
@xzraiderzx308 8 ай бұрын
Wow they did an outstanding job with both the art style and graphics. There were some shots that I preferred without RT, but it does feel more cohesive with it on.
@Masarofia
@Masarofia 8 ай бұрын
Same. I found some reflections to be way too mirror like in the Path Traced version. It is a really incredibly beautiful game!
@C0DERedEdits
@C0DERedEdits 8 ай бұрын
@@Masarofia This, not saying that the Path Tracing looks worse, but at some points it looks weird, I find it very odd when devs make stuff like puddles look like perfect mirrors when they aren't, at 9:49 for example, the Path Traced version looks almost uncanny to me.
@zoltankeresztes-nagy1243
@zoltankeresztes-nagy1243 8 ай бұрын
Type "puddle reflection" in google. On which planet are you living..? Go out sometimes after rain and look on the street. The problem is that so many years of rasterisation graphics of games burn in most people brain and they cant belive that with raytracing developers can make lifelike image quality.
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 8 ай бұрын
@@C0DERedEdits I think this is mostly because its so much more expensive to do diffuse pathtracing, combined with the fact you get more wow factor with a clean reflection, even if its less realistic. There's some interesting discussion about water reflections in the Spiderman 2 interview.
@ConcavePgons
@ConcavePgons 8 ай бұрын
@@alexatkin For Spider Man 2, they had to reduce the horizontal resolution of the reflections in rough water.
@nbdante
@nbdante 8 ай бұрын
I was expecting a consoles comparison to decide which version to get! Hopefully it will be released later today!
@Carlospev
@Carlospev 8 ай бұрын
Me too, I'm actually looking forward to a Series X analysis, as it's my preferred console, not sure why DF skipped it.
@iPoeticProphet
@iPoeticProphet 8 ай бұрын
The series x version is the best & a locked 60 fps. The ps5 version drops to 40fps.
@FreemanCs16
@FreemanCs16 8 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for tomorrow,it’s been a long way to home 13 years!
@ghall9228
@ghall9228 8 ай бұрын
I have never seen such cohesive lighting in a video game. Wow.
@numberl6
@numberl6 8 ай бұрын
id say the last of us 2 looks pretty similar
@mraso30
@mraso30 8 ай бұрын
@@numberl6 Nahhh, it is good for what it is but far, far fewer effects going on in that across the board. Very nice consistent / cohesive lighting as well, but just less going on, so it is easier to do that ("easy" not the right word, still very hard!). This is insanely good looking with tons of different lighting effects all interacting with each other.
@whenyounutinhermouthandshe
@whenyounutinhermouthandshe 8 ай бұрын
​@numberl6 No, it doesn't, never say that.
@krspy1337
@krspy1337 8 ай бұрын
​@@numberl6yeah, but it runs way worse, ps5 can run tlou part 2 on 1440p 60 fps where here it does 540p internal and upscales to 1080p and barely gets 60 fps...
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 8 ай бұрын
@@krspy1337 540P ? Where 540p ? do you have ears ? He said 1270p upsampled to 4K and 864p upsampled to 1440p.
@richardfranklin6003
@richardfranklin6003 8 ай бұрын
This game just reminds me that a mid gen refresh would be nice. Console refreshes need to find a way to have a dedicated RT processor
@richardfranklin6003
@richardfranklin6003 8 ай бұрын
Or upscaling processor
@Frigobar_Ranamelonico
@Frigobar_Ranamelonico 8 ай бұрын
Unless they go NVIDIA there's no possibility of a real use of RT (path-tracing) so...
@xtr.7662
@xtr.7662 8 ай бұрын
​@@Frigobar_Ranamelonicoexactly no need to expect much from console even a pro the recent leaked specs confirm the same ps5 cpu is mantained just overclocked like the ps4 pro but a new hybrid rdna 3 gpu
@Frigobar_Ranamelonico
@Frigobar_Ranamelonico 8 ай бұрын
@@xtr.7662 i know, I was responding to the first comment. Unfortunately RDNA it's basically unable to properly support RT.
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 8 ай бұрын
I disagree, With that you could argue every generation needs mid gen refreshes. At that point it's kinda pointless
@osirismaximus2787
@osirismaximus2787 8 ай бұрын
Very impressive. Might have to get a copy.
@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY
@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY 8 ай бұрын
Looks very promising. Hope the HDR implementation is correct as games this dark tend to have raised blacks in HDR. Great job as always.
@vegangames3468
@vegangames3468 8 ай бұрын
Grab the popcorn. 🍿
@rainbowsweater
@rainbowsweater 8 ай бұрын
Grabbed chips
@773soccer
@773soccer 8 ай бұрын
And the flashlight
@DaSchantinga
@DaSchantinga 8 ай бұрын
Und dazu ein fettes, saftiges Steak, yeeeee
@incognisance4293
@incognisance4293 8 ай бұрын
The consoles are starting to show their age here.
@SOTVT
@SOTVT 8 ай бұрын
They already did long time ago.
@incognisance4293
@incognisance4293 8 ай бұрын
@@SOTVT to a degree yeah, but not as much as this.
@SOTVT
@SOTVT 8 ай бұрын
Imo, this game was clearly made with NVIDIA technology in mind and first and foremost optimized for high-end rigs. It clearly shows when comparing IQ alone between consoles & PC. Don't wanna be that harsh on these machines, there are plenty of good looking and performing games on them, but as this gen continues - yeah, they are going to have a super hard time.
@Alltimefox
@Alltimefox 5 ай бұрын
Demon’s souls is one of the best looking games and it’s on the ps5
@CastleGameZ
@CastleGameZ 8 ай бұрын
Can we just talk about the amount of Max Payne Easter eggs in this haha. The FBI agent, the chap on the sofa....
@FulguroGeek
@FulguroGeek 8 ай бұрын
Still waiting the video about Squadron 42 demo and the Star engine demo guys! Please! I know you already did star Citizen videos so it would be nice to have another one after that Epic Citizencon demonstration!
@grimdicer152
@grimdicer152 8 ай бұрын
The long wait is finally over. What an amazing year for games!
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 8 ай бұрын
Aside from a few good ones, this years was filled with quantity over qaulity and bad optimizations. Glad Alan Wake is on the good side but still, overall the year was bad.
@snottersofsnot8644
@snottersofsnot8644 8 ай бұрын
You must be kidding, right?
@DescomplicandoHW
@DescomplicandoHW 8 ай бұрын
Yes, RE4 Re, BG3, Spider-Man 2 and now AW2, let's see what more great titles we receive until the end of the year :) Sorry, for bad english btw
@Ko5m0
@Ko5m0 8 ай бұрын
I don't really enjoy horror games. I did enjoy Control. Not sure if this would be a good fit for me. Which is a shame because the visuals look great and it'd be neat to see how my GPU would cope. Maybe there will be a Control 2 someday. Another awesome video from DF!
@noelrobles6334
@noelrobles6334 8 ай бұрын
Eagerly awaiting your ghostrunner 2 video
@Chobbito
@Chobbito 8 ай бұрын
Heyyy is that the Janitor Ahti I see in Alan Wake 2, I love the linking of those games so I hope there is more interlinking. Looks great the game
@shaunlunney7551
@shaunlunney7551 8 ай бұрын
You guys should review the PS5 vs XBSX in this game, as the Series X supports mesh shaders, while the PS5 only supports primitive shaders. For Science, you know!
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 8 ай бұрын
I see the side by side comparison of Jedi Survivor and the mess shader did not do a thing for the XBox. Especially holding the fps closer to 60.
@shaunlunney7551
@shaunlunney7551 8 ай бұрын
Yeah because they will sometimes code the game using the least cost path to ensure compatibility. But I wonder because of the performance increase that the mesh shaders provide and it being pushed more so here, if there would be a difference in this game between the consoles@@Crashed131963
@D71Gaming
@D71Gaming 8 ай бұрын
​@@Crashed131963other outlets have done the side by side an XBSX can in fact maintain a solid 60 fps in the game. Not sure why DF has not brought that up.
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 8 ай бұрын
I’ll say this, one of the best parts of current day gaming is all the reviews before you make a purchase. This just made me get the game day 1. It makes devs have to make sure their game is great at launch too.
@iris4547
@iris4547 8 ай бұрын
yep. huge fan of the original game so buying it was bound to happen, but between this and alexs video the game is currently downloading. will be my first ray traced title.
@Matt7895
@Matt7895 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video DF. Is there a PC specific video coming also?
@MikkoHiiri
@MikkoHiiri 8 ай бұрын
So relieved that performance pans out on PS5 and you enjoyed the game. Here's hoping it will be a success sales wise so that Remedy can keep their independent spirit alive.
@Kubush1
@Kubush1 8 ай бұрын
Why waste time for a PS5 performance review? PS5 is on par with mid-range 2016 PC gaming. Its a toy specifically designed for young children and tech illiterate dads who dont care about performance otherwise they would get a PC.
@mraso30
@mraso30 8 ай бұрын
Part of why I want to support this game Day #1. Vote with your wallet folks! The game is playable at 1080p low on any half-decent gaming rig. We should WANT PC games to destroy our PCs and be a challenge to run maxed out for years to come. It is what PC gaming used to be all about - pushing the limits.
@Shvabicu
@Shvabicu 8 ай бұрын
​@@Kubush1touch grass, nerd
@fardel8021
@fardel8021 8 ай бұрын
@@Kubush1 such bs, it has 2019-2020 hardware.
@Kubush1
@Kubush1 8 ай бұрын
Says the guy getting triggered over a toy. @@Shvabicu
@dylantortosa7678
@dylantortosa7678 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait to finish up the first game so I can immediately hop on AWII
@damir791
@damir791 8 ай бұрын
Psss... There is awesome AlanWake-themed DLC for Control as well!
@bcd398
@bcd398 8 ай бұрын
​@@damir791Control is a superior game
@jazonmorataya4523
@jazonmorataya4523 8 ай бұрын
Finished Alan wake a couple of weeks ago, not my favorite game but I enjoyed the hell out of it. It suffers from game design from that era, but like I said, still had a good time playing it.
@damir791
@damir791 8 ай бұрын
@@bcd398 ofc, but every Remedy game has it's charm and unforgetable.
@dariyanvalentine3564
@dariyanvalentine3564 8 ай бұрын
dont forget to play Alans first fight in the Darkness in American Nightmare, the second DLC for CONTROL , and some mentions in Quantum Break.
@HShango
@HShango 8 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to AW 2 ps5 so much 😎🤙🏿
@Mart-E12
@Mart-E12 8 ай бұрын
3:46 this guy reminds me so much of the original May Payne
@TayRich93
@TayRich93 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if its semi open, alan wake will always be so memorable to me🔥🔥
@raz318
@raz318 8 ай бұрын
This is what I expected next gen to look like! More cinematic, more realistic lighting, more film like. Too many games are still going for a super clean, polished look where things look plasticy and flat. I’m enjoying Spider-Man 2, but the character models in some cut scenes and gameplay look terrible and washed out, and it pulls me right out of the experience. Bravo Remedy, real looking forward to this game!
@keymo9359
@keymo9359 8 ай бұрын
Tbh the character models in this game still look kinda plasticy to me
@vandammage1747
@vandammage1747 8 ай бұрын
"Next gen" should not look like an aliased 850p game
@IwinMahWay
@IwinMahWay 8 ай бұрын
I hope games focus on gameplay too.
@noahstevens1886
@noahstevens1886 8 ай бұрын
​@@vandammage1747Good thing it doesn't.
@SomeUserNameBlahBlah
@SomeUserNameBlahBlah 8 ай бұрын
The issue with games today is they're still made to run on older hardware, whether PS4 or older PCs. This will always be the issue. You won't get games maxing out the PS5 until the PS6 launches.
@miguelroman4294
@miguelroman4294 8 ай бұрын
Looks like part of the Volocity architecture is being used on the Series X/S evidently proven by the smaller install size. Less memory to render should help with performance imo.
@THEAITIPS
@THEAITIPS 8 ай бұрын
We used to have nice mirror reflections without RT for decades. Not anymore.
@Mark-mu4pj
@Mark-mu4pj 8 ай бұрын
Thanks great video
@chaniaaliyah
@chaniaaliyah 8 ай бұрын
The town sheriff, isnt that the same guy from quantum break? Am I crazy?
@pegcity4eva
@pegcity4eva 3 ай бұрын
It is .
@Danieldialga
@Danieldialga 8 ай бұрын
Im actually surprised by the performance on ps5 given how demanding the game can be on pc hardware. Didnt think they would go for a performance mode at all ^^
@mechanicalmonk2020
@mechanicalmonk2020 8 ай бұрын
"demanding" in that it demands resources without consideration for using them well
@Z3t487
@Z3t487 8 ай бұрын
​​​@@mechanicalmonk2020Maybe let's wait a few years and several patches and then let's check the performance again...
@baronsengir187
@baronsengir187 8 ай бұрын
@@mechanicalmonk2020 Why would you say that?
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 8 ай бұрын
@@baronsengir187 Because people don't understand how optimisation works and how to REALLY optimise you actually end up dropping support for older hardware to focus on newer, more efficient GPU functionality. The wider the range of hardware you support, the less optimisation you can inherently do for each combination.
@184Dadada
@184Dadada 8 ай бұрын
How often are games more easily optimized for this gen consoles vs pc? I'm almost surprised by your comment. Unless we're talking about xss of course. That would be a surprise worthy reaction.
@cloudcultdev
@cloudcultdev 8 ай бұрын
11:30 hey, we know that guy! :)
@hi_its_jerry
@hi_its_jerry 8 ай бұрын
i'll have to say, the SSR artifacts looks right at home for a game like Alan Wake
@reggiefurlow1
@reggiefurlow1 8 ай бұрын
Finally these games are pushing things
@vandammage1747
@vandammage1747 8 ай бұрын
Nah it doesn't look much better than the best looking 30fps games on Xbox one X and Ps4 pro. Red dead 2, Last of us 2, Forza Horizon 4 look better than this upscaled aliased game.
@DrMaxCoytus
@DrMaxCoytus 8 ай бұрын
Seems like a good game to play on 30fps with live action cutscenes also at 30
@paradiseb5950
@paradiseb5950 8 ай бұрын
30 fos? In 2023? Just no.
@ghostfacen745
@ghostfacen745 8 ай бұрын
Hell No...
@Blballerboy
@Blballerboy 8 ай бұрын
@@ghostfacen745have you seen the game at 60fps on ps5? It looks horrible
@bzinirb6986
@bzinirb6986 8 ай бұрын
30fps on ps5 looks really good... its more cinematic feeling. A game for it
@WAstEDxLaMA
@WAstEDxLaMA 8 ай бұрын
Remedy has once again outdone themselves. With the exception of CrossfireX, I personally don’t believe they have missed yet! So happy for Sam and team, and I pray this game gets all the love and success it deserves!!!
@CuddFresh
@CuddFresh 8 ай бұрын
I can't wait to play this tomorrow
@xikaryo6735
@xikaryo6735 8 ай бұрын
I’ve always loved the lighting in Remedy’s games, ever since the original Alan Wake. That game had great lighting, especially in the remaster. The original wasn’t a perfect game by any means, but it did a lot of things right. The atmosphere was amazing and very self-aware of the tone it was setting. It really felt like an old school horror thing with just the right amount of cheese. The shooting was satisfying. The story was honestly great. Sounds were great. I think the issues with the game were mostly lack of variety gameplay wise throughout the story, and my biggest gripe was throwing in collectibles during moments when you’re supposed to be running away or in a very intense situation. This was bad design and broke the immersion. Also, dying from a 4 foot cliff? Some silly stuff that was overlooked. Alan Wake 2 looks incredible and the reviews speaks for itself. Remedy has learned a lot from Control.
@progeda666
@progeda666 8 ай бұрын
the graphical presentation looks incredible, best i've seen
@CuddFresh
@CuddFresh 8 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this more than any other game
@iamdmc
@iamdmc 8 ай бұрын
@11:30 it's Ahti the janitor from Control!
@phelype211
@phelype211 8 ай бұрын
Finally, a REAL next-gen game !!! can't wait for Alex's PC analysis !!!
@killer1one1
@killer1one1 8 ай бұрын
The absolute MADMEN! They managed to get this to hit 60fps on console, that's miraculous. The strong art direction will most likely distract from the loss of finer details, too. Amazing work.
@zeikjt
@zeikjt 8 ай бұрын
12:16 not consistent but yeah
@TheNiland43
@TheNiland43 8 ай бұрын
​@@zeikjtwould you have any ideas when an Xbox series x version is coming out to know how it runs I have both consoles and don't know which one I want to buy it on yet.
@zeikjt
@zeikjt 8 ай бұрын
@@TheNiland43 sorry, I don't have any more info about that than you do :(
@silverwerewolf975
@silverwerewolf975 8 ай бұрын
And on pc they ask for double the hardware power, fucking shot of optimziarion
@gaborszabo7765
@gaborszabo7765 8 ай бұрын
Miracle? No. Just good hw. Nothing new 🙄
@telsan4291
@telsan4291 8 ай бұрын
Come a long way from Sam Lakes flat face in the first Max Payne, remedy are really showcasing their tech, looks amazing
@metalagent47
@metalagent47 8 ай бұрын
Oliver might be the best new addition to the DF cast. imo.
@adiscipleoftheking4322
@adiscipleoftheking4322 8 ай бұрын
I must say I am really impressed with how good the visuals are in this game. Reminds me of TLOU2 next gen version. So crisp along with really nice environments! Enjoying the game so far. This has to be the benchmark for these sorts of games going forward!
@SomaStoic95
@SomaStoic95 8 ай бұрын
Quality mode or performance?? What do you suggest
@adiscipleoftheking4322
@adiscipleoftheking4322 8 ай бұрын
@@SomaStoic95 Definitely Performance mode. Much smoother gameplay.
@flockelocke2297
@flockelocke2297 8 ай бұрын
The 2018 Part 2 E3 demo gameplay is to me the most impressive stuff in visuals and animations shown to date but idk if it is possible like this on a PS5 and in 60 fps but Part 2 screamed next gen in this. The thing is devs like Naughty Dog could easily show more mind blowing graphics than Part 1 Remake but thing is could it even run on console and they focus on image quality and fps too with handcrafted graphics.
@redraw0160
@redraw0160 8 ай бұрын
There is no last of us 2 next gen version, what are you talking about?
@jorgealonso9792
@jorgealonso9792 7 ай бұрын
I think he means tlou 2 running on a ps5 vs a ps4@@redraw0160
@everydayman88
@everydayman88 8 ай бұрын
@8.49 the PS version has shadows on the leaves on the ground but not on pc... I hope that's a bug because that would mean this problem would occur in other places. Also where the ceiling and the wall connects right above the door has this weird white line... maybe some light leakage...
@joseijosei
@joseijosei 8 ай бұрын
The differences may be there because consoles lack many types of ray traced elements that PC doesn't, so they can be pretty different. On consoles, rt is usually limited to reflections, in most games that use some, and to a very low degree. You usually don't see ray traced shadows, ambient occlusion, global illumination, etc. Even path tracing, as you're seeing in this video. This doesn't mean there can't be bugs. Ratchet & Clank did have bugs with the ray traced shadows, so it was better to turn them off on release. It got fixed, but the issue was there on release, and it is on DF to. That said: sometimes people may think that the game is lacking something that is not lacking, because it shouldn't be there if the lighting was more "realistic" in the first place.
@joseijosei
@joseijosei 8 ай бұрын
7:52 That's an example of what I said there btw.
@mrchiledonut
@mrchiledonut 8 ай бұрын
Some issues here and there visually, but overall a great-looking game. It's also one of the few games where I think keeping film grain on is okay because it clears up any color banding one might have, but also is so fine that it's almost unnoticeable. There are some weird animations on occasion, awkward collision detection for the characters at times, and objects that move unrealistically (like a chair or cup sliding across a room without animating). And although the frame rate is mostly stable (playing in 30fps) the early Saga section of being in combat was pretty unstable. My biggest issue, however, is the lack of reflections in mirrors. I get raytracing was out of the cards here, but still, the lack of reflections in mirrors is bad. And I dislike that there's always been a lot of shimmer on textures/reflections in their Northlight games. Lastly, the number of repeating the same NPC models sticks out it's a bit immersion-breaking. I like the game a lot so far though, and surprised it took so long to get to the part where you can choose between Saga or Wake, which I just got to, and that's ten hours in. No deaths yet, just exploring to make sure I haven't missed anything. In Watery now. I loved the first game, so I'm happy that this game is so engaging. Not as big a fan of Control, but still found it interesting and love how it's all connected.
@StillWeRide
@StillWeRide 8 ай бұрын
Playing this on Fidelity mode tonight at 12!!!
@filipzawadzki9424
@filipzawadzki9424 8 ай бұрын
Aliasing killing it. It's a no go at this stage.
@Nessmith11
@Nessmith11 8 ай бұрын
Agreed, this game needs serious work on PS5. Otherwise I won’t be able to play it. Too distracting and literally hurts your eyes in some places.
@Pat86
@Pat86 8 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed for a 40fps mode in the (near) future.
@LouSassol69er
@LouSassol69er 8 ай бұрын
Hope so. Wish more devs would do this for 120hz displays.
@Str0b0
@Str0b0 8 ай бұрын
There might not be enough CPU and/or GPU overhead on the Fidelity (30fps) mode, as it can't currently hit a constant 30fps, at least in this day 0 version. So, 40fps mode might not be sensible.
@Z3t487
@Z3t487 8 ай бұрын
​@@Str0b0The performance mode targets 60 FPS. Have something looking a bit better than performance mode and a bit worse than quality mode targeting 40 FPS.
@desmond3245
@desmond3245 8 ай бұрын
I feel like FSR is just overall inferior to the old checkerboard way. The latter at least provides a stable and consistent image whereas FSR could look nice in some places, but terrible in the others.
@ArzePoetic
@ArzePoetic 8 ай бұрын
4:49 - "Collecting evidence had gotten old a few hundred bullets back. I was already so far past the point of no return I couldn't even remember what it looked like when I had passed it."
@chromeinox
@chromeinox 8 ай бұрын
Nah ah! 9:03 this is the only scene where the ps5 is more realistic. Would the underside of that coffee table look completely black in reality? I think not, my good sir!
@Dezzyyx
@Dezzyyx 8 ай бұрын
Leaning toward Quality mode as the 30fps seems pretty stable which is what matters, this game is more about graphics so it seems the logical choice as long as FPS is stable
@TyrellWellickEcorp
@TyrellWellickEcorp 8 ай бұрын
Yeah like who the f needs 60 fps?! This isn’t call of duty
@Totone56
@Totone56 8 ай бұрын
​@@TyrellWellickEcorpAnd after all it's a Remedy game, they use graphics to do crazy stuff they add to the atmosphere, it doesn't just look pretty.
@guilhermeheinen5859
@guilhermeheinen5859 8 ай бұрын
The aliasing problem bothered me a little, as it doesn't change anything from the performance version. Which makes me question whether it's worth sacrificing half the FPS in this case. I'll be keeping an eye on this game over the next months, as I suspect it will get even better with future patches.
@Bambi-er6fd
@Bambi-er6fd 8 ай бұрын
@@guilhermeheinen5859 the shimmering issue seems to be more about their whole rendering pipeline, those issues don't pop up in other games that are upscaling from 1270p with FSR, they usually happen when you're dropping way down to the 720p range, but yeah apart from that it looks great, altho in its current state those shimmers are way too distracting, not even control or quantum break had them
@ptrcrispy
@ptrcrispy 8 ай бұрын
4:50 Max Payne 1 grin spotted
@wiskerfall4519
@wiskerfall4519 8 ай бұрын
Well according to Alex in his 2:15 pc video it uses a form of software gi using signed distance fields for its gi solution
@ninjashrimpgaming2657
@ninjashrimpgaming2657 8 ай бұрын
Does the PC and xbox versions support mesh shaders like the developers mentioned prior to release? Will you be covering it at all? Was surprised to see no mention of it
@3doyoyolifestylegood534
@3doyoyolifestylegood534 8 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised they dont mention. They are total bunch of sony shills df.
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