My oldest sister and I used to reenact scenes from this movie, which was probably wildly inappropriate since I was 4 years old. However, I could nail the whininess of little Christina like a champ.

Haha my mom and I joke about this movie too. I call her mommy dearest a lot or say “bring me the ax!” We also joke about the actual Joan Crawford movie, Mildred pierce. We’ll randomly say to the other, “you’re cheap and horrible!” My favorite line of the movie hah.

@@lindseystein9676 My favorite scene was when they wrestled for the 10,000 dollar check - "VEEEDA!"

Haha. My mother would sometimes yell "No wire hangers!" And I'd just roll my eyes.

I was watching with my mom once. During the wire hanger scene, I said 'my clothes ain't even on hangers, what you gonna do now bih!' My mom was crying laughing!

Hola zzav De donde eras??

lmaooo this feels like a full moment that you are here! 😭😭

ZZAVID! Love you!

@@Chuuzus I’m telling you I’m so happy right now😂

Not my KZfaq favorite dropping a comment on my other KZfaq favorite reacting to my Dunaway favorite. So many worlds of mine colliding 🫠💙

Wow

Yep She F nailed that line 🤤🤤🤤

I cried

Exactly.

In fact Christina Crawford, the writer of the memoir of which the book is based, had no involvement with the making of the film, and denounced the film as "grotesque" and a work of fiction, specifically stating that Joan never chopped down a tree with an axe, or beat her with a wire hanger as depicted in the film

@@Threeleebird actually Christina hated the movie because it made Joan look a lot less cruel and abusive than what she actually was.

Especially since there were many witnesses that say this is exaggerated -- including her other three children -- oh right, they weren't in the movie because they refused to be part of it.

…and some people shouldn’t be parents.

The Library is closed...officially!

It was also because she was an unmanageable bi-atch to everyone and Bette Davis outdid her in talent.

@@darthroden You're not wrong.

Just one of the many, many, many falsehoods in this film. Crawford asked to be let out of her contract with Warners. Actors at that time were becoming independent freelance artists.

​@@darthrodenThat's bullsh**. Bette Davis was booted from Warner before Joan Crawford was. Mostly because, just like the rest of Hollywood, WB didn't really care for making great material starring older women. They both suffered that.

I know right🤣🤣🤣🤣

" _Barbara PLEeasse_ .."

LMAO

Zzavid!! I love him

Wow I had no idea I can definitely see it now 🤣

That makes too much sense!🤣

Now we know why.

Wow…didn’t know that. She doesn’t look like the actual Joan C though but more so like Faye Dunaway as Joan

That makes sense!

I have never read any account of him being a sleep walker, though i have read that she may have done it to prevent him from masturbating. I'm not sure if that is true, but given her other actions I fully believe she strapped him down as a means of control.

I’m pretty sure it was to keep him from sleep-wanking, actually.

This movie is a mess for a lot of reasons lol

Have mercy! Why did they have it on the baby version of him though?! I noticed when I was editing that he’s wearing a lil baby harness when Joan passes him off at Christina’s birthday party

@@AlandaParker Maybe it doubles as a leash. Lol

this!!!

Yes!!! I was thinking the exact same thing! Such a great movie

I like that movie. Name a more toxic old lady duo

I concur! Whoa, the fun you could have with that flick blows my mind!

I just saw that movie during the pandemic. It is soooo good!

Thanks for the info.

@@reneedennis2011 As I’m fond of saying, useless info for you and yours. Not a knock, I got stuff swimming in my brain that I find fascinating and important that most people are like “Whu?” when I mention it. On the plus side, I kill at Jeopardy and Trivial Pursuit. You’re welcome!

@@mattperiolat 👍🏾

There was more who appeared on a talk show in the 80s. other stars, who said everything Christina said was true, and they told stories about a birthday party, etc. The clip was on youtube but cannot find it.

I'm an Adoptee & a Survivor of some similar, & some not so similar abuse, & no - it's not far off the mark at all. I don't find anything at all funny or campy about it, myself. Many adopters, or people who got children illegally, are narcissists, &/or have munchausen by proxy syndrome IMO. They get off on the attention they get, for being such "good Samaritan's" to so called less fortunate victims.

A lot of this movie is deliberately hilarious. There's no other way to show such madness that wouldn't make it unwatchable.

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@@AlandaParker 😳 holy crap you replied to my comment. Hi 👋🏻 I Love your content!!

@@dudermcdudeface3674 Unfortunately many women are exactly like this.

Same lmaoooo 😂

NO WAY????

That is a lie

@@brothercinnamon2479 that is NOT a lie. Christina Crawford confirmed it. Some of us were actually alive and don't need to fuck with Google. STFU

True. Though I've also read that Christina herself has said that the movie adaptation of her book was "grotesque" and contained parts that were just pure fiction - such as the tree chopping scene, or the bit with the coat hanger. I've never read the book myself, so I have no idea how much the movie differs from the book, but I dare say it's just like Hollywood to exaggerate something to capitalise on some sensationalism.

What do you mean the two youngest sisters « had Alfred Steele »?

@@judethaddeus9856 a father figure around them, he probably gave Joan more stability in her life.

@@heidifedor Or him being around meant she couldn’t abuse them because maybe he was the type of parent/individual to not tolerate that so she treated them better because she knew she kinda couldn’t repeat the same behavior because there’s a second parent around to hold her accountable this time.

@@sharielane I bought a used copy of the book years ago and read it. Obviously a book will have more details than a movie (like Carol Ann being a composite character for all the maids/nannies Joan had over the years) but the biggest omission was the lack of the two youngest daughters whose names I can't remember.

This gave me LIFE

OMG YAAASSSSS

My mom callEd it a "cat bath" when I was younger-- she's also the only person I know who calls brothels "cat houses", so now I'm wondering if "cat bath" was her way of saying "hoe bath" to a 10 year old who wasn't allowed to watch pg13 movies but needed a quick wash looooooool.

Hoe bath is said alot in my family because for sone reason my grandma only does them and not regular baths lol

​@@victorias1227 I heard the term bird bath

If I was forced to play a abusive cold character in a movie, I'd want nobody to mention it either.

Wow.

@@dredre_lj2003 She wasn't forced to do this movie, in fact she did it because she had Joan Crawford's approval (I don't mean about the movie because Joan died before the movie was filmed and the book came out, but because she wanted Faye played her) and because she wanted another Oscar. Her husband at the time, Terry O'Neal also worked on the film as a producer. She hates this movie because it was the coup de grace that doomed her career.

Oh Wooowwww 👀

She’s slowly coming around to it, she made a nod to he movie in her Gucci commercial

The worst

No wonder the other two were like “Christina is lying” like obviously they were on Mommie’s side lol Wild that nobody could comprehend stuff could have happened before they were adopted. Or that the abuse could have stalled after a certain point as the kids got older.

You will love mommy Dearest

Yes, pleaseeeee do. The reaction would be hilarious 😂 and iconic.

The Trifecta!! Alanda, Zzavid and Chuuzus. Bring it on baby! We need a collab.

Please so we can watch your reaction too. Also watch Feud: Bette vs. Joan. So good too!

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Most of old hollywood actors and friends like myrna loy actually denied all of this

@@ury54 of course because image & reputation is everything.

Most people back during that time were aware of the abuse but said nothing. You're right the level of abuse was unknown but they knew. Infact, at times it was considered to be acceptable and praised or laudable. The majority of parents going from the 1980s all the way back to the 1900s and probably further would be placed in jail today for child abuse. That' was considered to be normal back then. And the people who confessed to being abused by someone or a parent would probably get beat by the person they're trying to get help from, ignored, make light of it "It's your imagination" or I dont' believe that or roll their eyes at you if you told the truth about your situation.

@@adithalee8660 I think you have a slightly exaggerated view of how life was in the 20th century. 😅

And her most recent pop culture moment was mis announcing La La Land winning best picture at the Oscars. Good lord, not going well for poor Faye 😂

I’m so shocked how many people watched this in childhood!!! 😭😭😭

Laust Cawz + what does junctistic mean? I tried looking it up, but couldn't find anything on it.

@@IChooseJesus9091 Originally on a website I had, which is now defunct. What's below only remains in a place from which I am unable to copy & paste a link here without it being immediately deleted: We're continually hearing about how the "Autism Spectrum" is some sort of devastating disorder/disease/epidemic, etc., etc., but I think there's something much more insidious, biased & deliberate going on. Back in the 1940s, Hans Asperger (which is where we get the "high-functioning" autism term "Asperger's Syndrome") defined autism as "an extreme variant of male intelligence". (Though there are evidently some female autists ... These are also likely the same females who, not so long ago, were referred to as "tomboys" or being "just like one of the guys".) More to the point, the word "autism" is from the Greek root "auto" meaning "self", which is a fitting reference to how autists (for better or worse) tend to be more self-driven & more capable of thinking &/or functioning independently than non-autists; aside from that, the most frequent traits among autists seem to be a pre-occupation with objects/systems &/or experimentation with them, specific obsessive interests, conceptualizing/how things work & other largely masculine tendencies/perspectives. It's also curious that we haven't been bombarded by hype about "an extreme variant of female intelligence" being labeled a "disorder" or "condition". With this in mind, I propose that such an extreme, characterized, let's say, by a fixation on: an inferred amplified importance of social formality/ceremony, etiquette & assimilation; difficulty with &/or indifference to: precise conceptual details; diverse but shallow knowledge of concrete or abstract systems, rather than narrow but thorough knowledge of them; and a pre-occupation with conformist &/or obsessively "unified" ideals, be declared "junctism" (©2009 LaustCawz), from the Greek/Latin root "junct" meaning "join". Some other concerns: When autism is portrayed in the media, the autist shown is almost invariably a young Caucasian boy & the "savior" or "protector" is his (likely junctist) mother, other such females (or junctist males), or even whole like-minded, patronizing autism organizations, who presumably wish to "cure", "heal", "fight" or "prevent" autism, which, considering that autists themselves are apparently not members of these organizations (except as the supposed "beneficiaries"), presents a serious conflict of interests... Keeping in mind that many of history's greatest innovators are said to be (or to have been) on the "spectrum" and that cooperation & social harmony have their place as well, justice might be better served if autistic personalities (whether manifested in men or women) could be accepted & respected in the same capacity as the more "junctistic" approaches, instead of being demonized; or, conversely, if "junctism" would be acknowledged as a counterpart "disorder". --LaustCawz

This was a lot! I am not reading the meaning of junctistic. It is entirely too long.

Flowers in the attic is the worst movie ever....there own mother turned against them uhg! So awful...

The series gets a lot of basic historical facts wrong and should be taken with an assload of salt! As a campy piece of trash entertainment, just a tad bit better than housewives, I suppose it succeeds

If she hasn't seen it already, Alanda should definitely watch Baby Jane. Maybe for Halloween?

@@annalouise3251 yeah, but so does this movie, Christina Crawford says they took a lot of liberties with her book, and the movie are almost wholly inaccurate.

*is

@@tinastar1972 yes I completely agree lol I enjoy this movie and feud a lot btw. It just irks me when naive or ignorant people take what they are watching as fact, when it really isnt or at least not concrete truth! I'm not a fan of disclaimers, but I think it would be justified for Mommie Dearest 😅

Whatever Happened to Baby Jane is a good movie.

Ty! There’s is so much stupid lines and stuff in this movie but that scene is not funny at all to me. ( I was adopted, had a bipolar clean freak mother)

I had something very similar happen with the scouring powder, & the woman who was my Adoptive Mother. I can relate to a lot of this unfortunately.

I don’t get people who think this movie is funny. It’s honestly horrifying. Abuse isn’t funny, especially childhood abuse.

It's not the subject that's funny, it's the hubris in Faye Dunaway's performance...it was unintentionally campy.

I know someone who watches Fatal Attraction every Valentine’s Day lol

@@CarloisBuriedAlive I need to be friends with this person

I watched that "Christmas Story" movie for the first time several years ago. Shortly afterward I had a nightmare about someone (not me) who has a serious eye injury. I almost never dream about injuries. Then I realize what caused the dream. That line in the movie "you'll shoot your eye out, you'll shoot your eye out!"

@@maryk446 Try watching Carrie - "they're all gonna laugh at you" 😆😆😆

My sister and I had had the same situation in our home. Adopted at 4 and 5, they had a 2 year old [adopted at 6 mos] and a bio teen that were "their children" and then they had us as their scapegoats for abuse. Until they put us back in the system at 16 and 17 once we started standing up to the abuses. Some people...😑

Christopher died of cancer in 2006. He was 63 years old. I think that saying he was young is a bit inaccurate.

Agreed!

Every week

You told not one lie!!!! 😭🙏🏾

Oh my god! Oh. My. God.

I know it’s wrong but I wanted vengeance! 😭😭😭

@@AlandaParker a good old dose of self defence agains mommie dearest would have been so cathartic after all that abuse toward the poor lil bubba’s 🥺❤️

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You know how we do 😌💛

Nah im mentally ill and its camp

Also way to assume about other people's mental status

“Mildred Pierce” is a good one👌🏾⭐️

@@TheeOGBobby I forgot to mention “Strait-Jacket”. Speaking of camp classics! 🤣

At the end of the day, her abusing her children is only alleged. We dont and will never know what actually happened between her and her children. You have the right to believe that it is true, but its not concrete

@@annalouise3251 You’re so right.

@@annalouise3251 There are a lot of witnesses. Lots of them. We did never get her side of the story, so that’s something for sure.I take Christina’s account for what it is, a memoir.