See, I need to disagree. Charlie wasn't a hypocrite in this instance; there is a world of difference between defending yourself and your friends from someone who actively wants to harm - even kill - you. Contrariwise, I very highly doubt Alastor would've sent Charlie after someone who wanted her dead; far more likely it would be an opponent Charlie would have needed to use her influence to kill or dethrone. Furthermore, Charlie actively didn't aim to kill the Angels. While she couldn't stop her daemonic host, she actively strives to show mercy in that fight, stopping Lucifer from killing Adam. I don't know that Alastor's side-eye after their deal was representative of a lie, so much as it was one of annoyance. He and Vaggie have had a very rocky relationship, with the latter oftentimes trying to stop him at every turn. He is basically rolling his eyes at Vaggie's concern, for any number of reasons I can consider. As for his stitches, I have to agree! I don't believe this smile is entirely forced, however. I do believe Alastor knew how to fake a smile and weaponize it before; he was a charismatic serial killer with charm and panache. An ear-to-ear grin suits someone like him like... well, a suit. However, I do think this smile became a part of his deal with the powers that own him; a fabrication that is no longer Alastor's own. Now he smiles not just for himself, but for his pact, locking his lips back and driving him to embrace that snarling smile. While I think it's very likely Alastor was the one who robbed Husk of his souls, I'm not entirely sold. See, I feel it this way; if Husker was an Overlord when Alastor met him, why gamble at all? We know he's strong enough to off powerful Overlords, so why take a risk when he could just kill Husk and move on? I think Alastor found Husk *after* he'd gambled away his souls, and offered him one final game, but this time with his own soul on the line. Husk, staring down a demon with immense spiritual power who could restore all he had lost, saw no other option and bet. To Alastor, the offered souls would have been a drop from his bucket, and perhaps he could have killed Husk and claimed them afterwards. But by seizing the soul of an ex-Overlord, Alastor now had a powerful pawn to play; Husker was nobody's fool, and despite his subservience, he was also extremely powerful. Powerful enough to climb hell's hierarchy and rule as an Overlord. If we consider Alastor's origins and his implied connection to Louisiana Voodoo, then that shadow that follows him around takes on a new meaning. I think Alastor's soul was always powerful, because he *prepared* to go to Hell. He knew there was an afterlife, and did what he had to do to ensure that, when he stepped through those brimstone gates, he would do so in brutal style. He took charge of his own soul that way, but also by accepting a deal that made him even stronger. One thing I've taken note of is Alastor's use of tentacles, as it feels off-key from the rest of his design. His enlarged, horrific demon form is fitting, but the tendrils from his back just feel... off. Like a power granted to him, rather than his own. What if his deal granted him those abilities, at the cost of his placement? And this ties into another little thing I caught. The microphone! Remember, in the Pilot, we saw that the radio could speak, and was what made the laugh-tracks and such for Alastor. Now, it's purely an object, meaning it's possible it's role in the story has changed. He passed the microphone over to Charlie for "Ready for This," and at the start of the assault on the hotel a pair of odd details to me. Why his, and not the one she'd been provided? Why not any other microphone? Did it give her some kind of boost? And why was it, after it was destroyed, Alastor lost so much power? He clearly still had his shadow energy; he used that to depart from the fight easily enough, so the destruction of the microphone didn't remove *all* his powers, but only some. If so, what ones? What if that is how his deal-maker is connected to him? His radio is used transfer his newfound powers, while also letting his dealholder to keep an eye on him. That's why, after it was broken, he was so open about talking about rebellion.

I saw a theory that he is smiling on his own, but when he struck a deal with Charlie, he smiled so hard that he needed to use his magic to hold his face together, as he finally got a chance to get out of his deal that was limiting his powers, which is what he had been waiting for for many years, so for that to finally happen, he almost ripped his own face from smiling so hard. I feel like this makes more sense, as those stitches wouldn't be preventing him from not smiling, they would be preventing him from smiling too hard, as they are stitching his mouth together, not pulling his lips apart.

I don't think the strings are forcing him to smile. I think they're trying to keep him silent about something, and him smiling is a form of rebellion against the control of whoever has him on a leash.

I think it would be more interesting if the stitches are actually not forcing him to smile, but the opposite. They're trying to force his mouth closed in a frown. That would make more sense anatomically with how they're arranged. But also it would speak a lot more to Alastor's character, he values the power of a smile very deeply. So him always smiling in spite of the stitches constantly punishing him for it is one of his little ways of rebelling against his enslavement.

I think that he is incapable of not smiling. Maybe some kind of curse that he has learned to use to his advantage. But when he is ALONE in his radio tower after the battle having a full-blown meltdown, he still smiles despite not needing to do so for anyone else to see. And in fact, he starts pulling at his face like he wishes he could stop smiling in that moment, but he can't and it's literally driving him crazy because it's something he CAN'T actually control. I think that if he broke the curse, he would still continue to smile the majority of the time because it has actually served him so well (like he explained to Charlie), but there would be times when he would drop the smile and that would be so extremely unnerving to see.

I know all me fellow fans know that Alsastor chooses to smile all the time. He will never frown. He uses it as his tool. A smile is a tool, one of the best.

I think he’s smiling all the time because his mothers last words were “Don’t forget to smile dear, your never fully dressed without one”

The stitches were because. it was actually his real smile. And he smiled so hard his face ripped and he used his magic to fix it with stitches.

I’d like to see a scene where Alastor breaking his smile in front of Charlie showing just true emotions during a dramatic conversation!

Add a radio effect to the dialogue and that’s Alastor for you with an actual 1900s voice.

Stitches: are done to keep something together Alastors smile being stitched: someone is forcibg him to smile with them See no logic at all😂😂 I think the stitches ae there to literally KEEP HIM SMILE TOGETHER- like imagine if they weren't there and Alastor smiled- his face would literally rip in half💀

you know stitches can’t force a smile beacause they are ment to sow stuff together not force stuff open

The coloration of the magic matches his own, he also speaks a lot about the power of a smile so I think the magic forced smile is his own doing so he doesn't slip up. Especially as it appears by charlie that the act of making a deal shows for a brief moment your true demonic form, her effects and his effects both became apparent. I think the more telling sign is his eyes at 2:22. One goes black, which I believe implies he's in a deal with someone above him. Like how angel dust has one black eye, and all the souls completely owned (rather than just in a deal) have both eyes black. Though this theory runs into a hitch with Nifty, who its implied Alastor owns but her one eye is red. BUT they seem to imply at a friendship between the two before the battle, so this makes me wonder if Nifty is owned, or rather just enjoys working with Alastor and is actually free.

It's just voodoo imagery like the stitching on his body like a voodoo doll and the symbol's that appear when he uses his abilities.

Alastor never stops smiling regardless of the fight. Also, his arm has stitiches if you pause it at 2:26. Something happened.

“While having so much charisma that he fooled an entire fandom into thinking that he’s secretly a good person” honestly the realest part of the video. The idea of the stitches forcing Alastor’s smile into permanence is definitely an interesting one, but as a side note, Niffty might be a worthy factor to consider in anything Alastor-related. She _was_ depicted with a giant sewing needle as her weapon in older (as in, circa 2015-ish) art, and Alastor’s shadow dolls have *very* visible stitching, as does his creepy giant form at the end of “Stayed Gone”. His pride would *_definitely_* never let him admit it, but maybe Niffty is playing a bigger role in keeping him together than we previously realized. I do wonder about Alastor’s “You should know better than anyone what a soul can accomplish when they take charge of their own fate.” Not just because I genuinely don’t see the connection between that notion and Adam, but because of what it could potentially imply about Alastor and his power. He has always had this air of a self-made man, but the unknown details make him even more intriguing. I can’t wait for Season 2 to give us more of this asshole, the lesser assholes, the Morningstars, and Sir Pentious 😈

I would like theory that alastors power is his own especially fits with his character and he does emulate pride very much like Lucifer plus the idea that a soul can transcend has been around since the beginning of time thank you could work

For the last time, the stiches are there to keep his face from ripping apart since that's a true smile and not the fake smile he always has.

I agree that it is ironic that Charlie refuses to hurt anyone for Alastor but is willing to accept information on how to kill angels, but you have to remember that this is life or death now for Charlie and the hazbin crew, they have to defend themselves and if they don’t know how, they all die. And Charlie tried doing it peacefully by talking to heaven, but they wouldn’t listen, and Adam threatened he was coming for her hotel first🤷🏾‍♂️ what was she supposed to do? Also this is just my theory, but alastor looking to the side when telling vaggie Charlie still has her soul might just be alastor being annoyed that vaggie assumed that or that he didn’t succeed. Kinda like how he made a deal with vaggie and she was reluctant because she didn’t wanna loose her soul either and alastor had the same expression

Actually the stitches are because of him doing a real smile he had been smiling for so long to the point to when he had a real smile it was ripping his face

My theory is that as alestor was murdering his way up the ranks he picked a fight with Lucifer and got absolutely destroyed, to save his own skin he sold his soul and that's why he had such an immediate hatred for the guy.

I just honestl feel like alastor's smile is part of him. Like angel dust's arms, husk's cat appearance, or sir pentious' snake tail. Like- alastor's smile is just part of his demon form.

Thanks for answering some of my questions

I like to think that expression he made after he told vaggie Charlie still has her soul was more a roll eye then a lying expression

2:21 he prob smiled for real so he smiled so hard his face needed to be stiched

4:22 He was mistaken for a deer so he got hit with the bullet

What is alastors "favor" that doesnt hurt anyone is asking for charlies soul later on as a "Favor"

I honestly don't think Lilith owns his soul. I mean, if you think about it. The idea of you babysit my daughter for me. Things are going down. He would have more insight of what's going on. Lilith was the one who owned his soul. I think. Also I don't think he'd be acting like, that, If it was a simple babysitting job.

I didn't even know this was a theory, I just saw threads on his teeth and said "That's wild".

Did anyone notice when Alastor got hit against the wall one of his eyes turned black for a second showing that his soul is owned just like angel dust?

It pulls the strings and makes them ring

I partly have a theory that he put those in to keep him smiling. I keep thinking of the comic with his mother and how he said that you are never fully dress without a smile. Him stitching his mouth into a forever smile would help keep what he said and keeps his true motives hidden. It could also be a rebellion to who ever controls his soul to show that they didn’t break his spirit.

OMG here’s a theory, and for this theory to work we’re going to assume Lilith owns his soul so my theory is that as a favor alastor will ask for Charlie’s soul and then he will give Charlie back her soul if Lilith give him his soul

meanwhile me being embarrased to smile 🗿🍷

Could be, but I truly hope its not fake. It adds soooo much to his caracther, that even in defeat he still keeps smiling. I'm not sure how precise is the animation, but I'd say those stiches don't look like they meant to create a smile, but rather to keep his mouth shout. Or some kind of voodoo shrunken head stuff...

I was thinking the same thing when saw those stitches

Very interesting theory! Don't forget in the pilot when Alastor summons Nifty and Husk he says "I suppose I can cash in a few favors to liven things up". Whatever power a deal requiring a favor can do seems to be strong.

Is he the strongest sinner or Overlord ? I do not think so Because he was powerful at that time But not at the moment for the Overlords . My theory With who was the deal made, Al Not stupid To make a deal for his soul for nothing, maybe for the strength Or protect from this person and He wants to be It breaks free and gain more power

That’s not how stitches work it’s more like he was faking a smile for so long that when he actually smiled he had to stich his own face to prevent it from being destroyed

I think Alastor made a deal with Roo before he died. My theory is she reached through the veil and talked to Alastor in his dreams under the guise of a Voodoo demon or "Loa". Offered him power to kill 'evil' people. Something he wanted to do to begin with. When he dies, he panics because he couldn't kill anymore and thinks he lost favor of the entity he made the deal with, but she reaches out again and tells him to go after the overlords if he wants to continue killing. Because they are the most evil of the bunch in hell. She then hides in his shadow. He eventually gets beaten by Vox, but gets away with intervention from Roo. Lilith offers to rehabilitate Alastor in return for him watching over Charlie and her endeavors. Which is why they both disappeared for 7 years. Roos stipulation was that Lilith couldn't interfere with anything after Alastor took over with watching over Charlie. The smile is a pretense to hide his intention to break his deal with Roo by using his favor with Charlie to convince Lilith to help him. He needs to keep it up because she is literally always watching him.

This makes sense because alastor is here because he was serial killer in his human life but he died because he was mistaken for a deer while hiding a body at a hunting ground

Who else recognized grateful in the background music?

But hey, thats just a theory... A FILM THEORY!!!

Ever since I first saw the show I thought that his smile was a part of his body

You went through all this theorizing when I’m pretty sure since alastor is based off a real radio murderer the murderer always smiled because frowning was a sign of weakness. And alastor follows. It doesn’t have to be so complicated.

I don't like to think he's being forced onto Charlie by it's deal, not directly, I like to think he's forcing himself to do what he's doing because he's desperate and see in Charlie a way of getting rid of his deal, so, he's building her trust and waiting for the right opportunity to be able to use her

he said himself that he does that to confuse his enemies and to be in control of situation

I thought that this was simple. When makeing a deal with charlie he has stiches to force his smile.

imagine the favor is that she gives him her soul

Your theory is quite interest but my question got me puzzled, who is pulling Alastor's strings? I do hope we find out on season 2 of Hazbin Hotel.

My theory is that he chooses to smile, but the stitches are him being unable to speak of something, like a secret He stops smiling in multiple short frames and- just look at the stitches, they arent forcing shit

your ancient is asmr

I don’t think the stitches force the smile. I think it’s to keep his mouth shut about the deal he made.

Because end is almost here and we have no freedom

alastor was clearly not going all out against adam. He just got hit with a blow he didn't expect and it just so happened to fuck up his cane

Fun fact stitches hold things closed not open so the whole stitches holding the smile open thing doesn’t work from a medical standpoint

i think zestial owns alastors soul because 1 hes an overlord 2 LOOK HOW GREEN HE IS and 3 the stitches on his hat are the exact stitches on alastors forced smile i dont know if i could be wrong by this but it seems like a 50/50 theory

Would charlie be able to get into heaven after making the deal

That's not how stitches work but whatever

I am really offended because I look off like al does when I am trying to remember something because when I lie it takes less effort than remembering something over an hour ago.

Or,he could just be insane

The Devil is in the detail. from Customer Service to Voice Acting to Dance Performance, a smile is a crucial part of the act. If Alastor's strings were forcing him to smile, the stitches would be horizontal at the edges of his mouth like human fingers pulling a mouth into a smile, and not vertical across his mouth like a human convict muzzle.

I wonder if he didn't sell his soul and the deal he made was to protect Charlie. If he is the strongest overlord then the only ones who can hurt him are angels and demons like Lilith. If I remember the deal he made with Charlie correctly, he does not need to protect the hotel or it's inhabitants. To me it only makes sense for him to go against the angels is if the deal is to protect Charlie. Charlie fought the angels so Alastor was forced to fight too. It would also make sense why he is so pissed. Charlie almost got him killed and there was nothing he could do about it, and from what I gather Alastor hates not being in control. I don't think he can make deals that directly or indirectly harm Charlie.

I think the theory that Alastor is being forced to smile is quite real. See his colour palette is red and the stitches on his mouth is green.rd and green are opposite of each other on the colour wheel, so whoever did it to Alastor has a green colour palette and their intentions are different from Alastors metaphorically, with the stitches highlighting forceful intentions from the green attacker I think it make sense that Alastor wasn’t smiling on his own will he was being forced by someone who wanted him to smile. And also when Alastor raged he showed chains that are in the same green on his stitches, I feel like whoever did it to Alastor, has a contract with Alastor borrowing some of their power and the stitches on his mouth are a marking of this contract and the price of this contract could possibly be Alastor’s soul. Another thing I realised Alastor was forced to be in this contract. makes me wonder what are the circumstances when this exchange happen. I have a theory Alastor was injured with his Battle with Vox and somehow managed to recover with the help of from this person found him in a weakened state and forced it on to him.Maybe they see Alastor has potential be their pawn as he is very powerful and keeping them in a contract gives them power over Alastor.But the strange thing is Alastor seems to have great fear with this contract, he is one of the overlords powerful beings why would he not have any power over this contract or entity ? Unless they are much more powerful than Alastor and he has no way to break the contract or go against this person- which makes me wonder who could’ve been so powerful that it makes Alastor fear them

What if his favor is to get Charlie to ask her mom to set alastor free from his deal

imagine the favor is making charlie give alastor her soul

I kinda hope it isn't a forced Smile. Because that would mean he doesn't smile as a form of dominance, which is one of his key traits.

The fact how alastor holds charlie 1:04 💀💀💀

Imagine the people using him as their pfp

you can see if someones has sold their soul or not. If they have red eyes they have not sold there soul and owns other souls. If they have yellow eyes they have not sold their soul and does not own any. If they have black eyes such as husk someone owns their soul angels is half and half because Val only partly owns her soul and alastors other form has the black eyes while his normal form has red which means he might be trying to hide it.

He's been shown to close his smile in the show in contemplation so its more likely it's the opposite.

В англоязычном сегменте интернета все уделяют большое внимание сделке Аластора.А вот я думаю,что он независим,хотя может быть и ограничен.Но он хочет вырваться и помогает Чарли не ради себя.

Question: So, if Alastor is choosing to smile for ‘control’ or ‘power’ which are both valid, however, when in the last scene why doesn’t he stop smiling? He’s by himself where literally no-one chan see him. So if it’s the case that he chooses to constantly have that smile (especially in his near-death and genuine anger ect… why doesnt/cant he drop that smile? In the last part with his whole mental breakdown (again, ALONE in his tower where no one can see him) is there something forcing him to smile? I believe that the stitches on his mouth are either purely aesthetic no? Like a voodoo dolls mouth kinda thing. But it there a greater motive as to why he is always smiling?

Niffty forced alastor to smile

Fukin love ur accent it scratches my brain ears

when circus theory

you say all this, but cant understand how stitches work apparently. those stitches wouldn't be keeping Alasters smile up, they would me keeping it from getting bigger. If the stitches were to keep him smiling then the artists screwed up on how they drew those stitches, and i have enough faith in the hazbin team to not get something like STITCHES messed up

2:34 L whoever forced alastor to smile permanently L valentino & W charlie for helping sinners.

Didnt vivzie say that he just smiles on his own,and he looks down on people that cant hide their true feelings with a smile?

I love your accent

Is there a possibility that Alastor might hate Charlie because she’s in control of everything?

What if Lucifer broke into two pieces?

Definitely some flaws in your logic but a decent analysis for the most part. For example: Charlie being hypocritical/paradoxical for refusing to make a deal where she has to hurt somebody. Yes she is getting information on how to hurt/kill angels but she is doing so she can defend her people from those seeking to kill them. She refuses to kill, or even harm, another when it's not self defence.

Cool

thats not how stiches work :))

Of course he's not a good person no one in hell is a good person

That is not have stitches work

i thought this was a Game Theory Video from the title and the thumbnail, ive been rickrolled

I don’t think alastor owns Charlie’s soul, cause if he does and tries to harm Charlie, lucifer WILL kill him

People didn't know he had a fake smile?🤦‍♂️

Sans v2

Yeeeeessh ! Get some subtitles! What the heck is this???!

I swear you sound like Valentino.

only short comment here

Well the voise arent that bad it could be worse

This theory just disagrees with logic. These stitches or how u call them, are a display of the deal he made is now limiting his full power.

Alistor's story and character is pobbey. The only reason I finished season 1. All the VC changes really hurt the show.

You know how alastor usually has a shadow of a demon self of him he made a deal with lilith/charlies mom is most peoples theory because he used to gamble and he lost in gambling and gave lilith his soul because lilith has been gone for seven years and so has alastor been gone for seven years so in that time they might have made a deal

Who is alistor? i only know alastor.