Aletreon reminded me that i miss the rush when you see the skull appear on the monster and you go FULL focus on the fight.

I don't care what anyone else says. Alatreon is my true mentor. After finally beating him again and again in both squad and solo hunts, i feel like i tapped into something... Ultra..Instinct? I now walk into a Tempered Ruiner Nergigante run like it's just a walk in the park with 0 stress.

Exactly. Ruiner nergigante is MR 100 yet alatreon is MR 24 makes sense. Glad some one else thinks that the MR rank for alatreon is to low

We need those loading screen from mh4u that say "Remember to take a break after hunt" or something on MH:W

Alatreon was the first monster that made me use elemental weapons and it literally took me 3 days to kill him and let me tell you this, the satisfaction that you feel when you get ever closer to killing him is just so good, Everytime you get those horn breaks and the topples. I feel that alatreon is by far the best fight in Iceborne due to the immense learning curve and the joy you get when you first kill him. Again Capcom did a fantastic job.

Im glad he is this difficulty. I took a few months break from the game and coming back to this was good for me. I was pretty pissed the first few days but once I got used to it I started to like the fight more. Dont give up hunters. We are all gnna be better cuz of this

the problem is not the dps check, the problem is people don't know how to build a proper elemental set, but rather than learning and trying new methods, they complain that the monster is too hard because the one method they are used to didn't work. I had trouble with him at first, but I learned how to make a good elemental set, and now I consistently suppress his nova every time, both solo and in a group. If anything kills me, it's not the nova, it's his regular attacks since he hits like a truck, as a black dragon should

"Everyone was able to clear Arch-Tempered Namielle no-problem" speak for yourself

Alatreon brings back the old "Graceful Evasion Combat" that was lost from the old games into World caused by mantles and wall bangs

As someone who really loves elemental builds and counterfighting, Alatreon has been a really nice breath of fresh air. I enjoy the fights of the last few updates, but I keep finding myself using my elemental builds for funsies, rather than any sort of META. Going into this fight made me really thankful I had all these elemental options to play with.

I feel like this fight is like the old school fights, no item refills, no obstructions, just you and the monster and you gotta practice and learn and cart to this ultimate to be able to beat him. He is supposed to be an endgame, difficult fight. You need to change your play style a little bit, that is why he's a good fight.

90% of my hunt in multiplayer, they died to the fire breath and changing form to dragon explosion not escaton, liars they are just a bad hunter

I thought that Alatreon was badly designed. Then I got over myself and took some time to make some better elemental builds and he's not that bad. super fun actually.

Yeah my biggest issue is the damage check honestly.ive soloed it several times now and yeah I die to other things but its just a sense of being rushed and forced to fight a certain way.. The rest of the fight is like a great walk in the park, but its like I'm always looking for damage element check over my shoulder and making sure i broke his horns before he turns element modes. Like what was the point in having alatreons tail severable but insist on his horns being broken

He was the first in a long time to remind me to don't get too comfortable. Had to sit down and actually plan out a build for him, even then it took me multiple tries. Such an intense fight yet I love it

comparing alatreon to kulve taroth in terms of dps check, well at least alatreon still gives you the chance to kill him - meanwhile kulve taroth flat out leaves the map :/

Iceborne Alatreon has finally convinced me that this is indeed a MH game realized in next gen. My personal experience here, almost all of the monsters from base world and iceborne doesnt have this feeling of "if you dont learn his movesets, you will never defeat them" that was present in older MH games. Previously, if you learn a monster's gimmick you are rewarded with a large opening. For e.x sonic bombing diablos (anyway what is the purpose of sonic bomb in iceborne except for diablos), flash bombing rathalos, breaking barioth claws to make him slip. All that stuff. In world and iceborne, I may have done that but it feels hollow since there is no better way than just unga bunga hit it til it dies to every monster. Its as if a reckless fight where you dont need to learn about the monster is encouraged. Even shara ishvalda, which I think was a challenge where I had to rethink my skill set and be wary of his sands. I cannot shrug the feeling that someone else can win this fight even if they are clueless what to do, chugging infinite potion without punishment. Alatreon however, makes me feel like hunters of the old game. Searching for his elemental weakness, learning his biology (horn break), be wary of my limited potions, and ultimately..... learning his movesets to play better. All of this can happen because of Escaton Judgement. Where you are punished for running around cluelessly, and getting hit all the time. Also for ONCE I actually make use of the online session just like in older games and had FUN. In older games I used to make friends with randoms, when we failed a quest its our fault for not having a better strategy. We try again and we laugh when something funny happens. In world and iceborne? Just SoS every quest, hoping the next person is a godlike speedrunner and then that's it. No social communication, just nothing. Alatreon has finally given that social communication feeling back which I enjoy in monster hunter. This is why I have some feedback for MHW and iceborne.

"Wahhhh I have to engage with the mechanics instead of playing like a hack n slash wahhhhh im gonna review bomb now" astounding that these people call themselves fans

I feel like Alatreon is more enjoyable than Safi, and way more than MR Kulve. I mean I never even fought Kulve enough to upgrade any of his weapons. But I also feel I was much more frustrated with AT Luna and AT Nerg in base world. But I never blamed the game or devs for those two being too difficult. I was just like oh well I'm not good enough to beat these two. Though I did eventually somehow end up beating those two, and it was very satisfying (AT Nerg in particular).

Alatreon is a very fun fight. It taught me the fundamentals of Dual Blade too, a weapon I never thought of using. Alatreon feels like the Mentor who goes all out and wants you to tap into the unreleased potential you have rumbling deep inside. Beating him doesn't mean simply slaying a monster, it is passing down the glorious rush of how it feels to be a hunter.

Personally I find the fight to be very enjoyable and occasionally solo him just for fun, however despite easily clearing the elemental check the thought of “I need to pass the check or I die” is usually heavy on my mind during the fight, but overall it’s fun and learning it’s telegraphs is rewarding. when alatreon came out I argued that raw reliant weapons would struggle but it turns out that elemental values for every weapon are different for this fight specifically, so it’s good to know they took that into consideration, however element in general needs a buff for some weapons still I reckon. Still, I’m not a fan of unavoidable one shots/dps checks but at least the fight is fair and balanced for all the weapons, so chances are you’ll make it through anyway

Why does every single person who ends up beating Alatreon suddenly end up loving it? Were you brainwashed or kidnapped and replaced? Blink twice if your being held hostage

Everything you said is correct. I thought it was too difficult (the nova), but I kept trying and changed up my builds trying new things and have managed a couple of kills and some really close runs. Gave me a 'yeah!' feeling after I beat it which I didn't get from safi or kulve

I use to hate this fight, but ever since I embraced the “elemental” dmg and made the strong effort of creating a good build, I absolutely love it. I even like it so much Ive been trying to find excuses to play it after I got every material I possible need, like finding randoms that havent beat it and offer myself to help them. I really really love this monster now

I agree. Not to mention that the fight is great in general. The moves are well telegraphed and have right hitboxes but still punish over comitting. Also the amount of Element you have to deal is different for each weapon type, so Dual blades etc. dont even have a big advantage. The hours when I figured out his mechanic and how to solo him on my own have been an absolute blast and the first kill felt even better then the first kill on many dark souls bosses.

I feel Alatreon is purely a challenge fight through and through. I honestly loved the fight immensely due to just how hard it challenged me, pushing me beyond my limit and after getting the hang of his move set and finally beating him, I felt so good and accomplished. Heck, it reminded me of when I played Dark Souls for the first time and I just smiled for a long moment after winning at least once solo. To any still trying it to beat this fight, never give up. Keep trying and you will win once you get it. You can never be defeated as long as you never give up. 😀

I've had a blast with Alatreon. It's made me aware of many things. I appreciate that I now have 1100+ hrs in the game. I like knowing that I've been a part of many successful random hunts, using various weapons. I like the fact that it's a relatively tough foot race, so to speak. It's separated the skilled and prepared from those who are not. I've realized I put all this time into the game but still don't fully utilize or understand many features (the flinch shot, arena quests, fishing, farming materials to craft and more). But I've also put enough time into practicing combat, grinding (some) materials, and carefully making builds to be able to take down Alatreon with randoms. Sometimes in parties of 4, others in parties of 3, and I think i even beat Alatreon with just one other before. It's been so much fun to come back to the game and feel like there's a fun challenge to enjoy and STILL have tons of things to grind so I can improve further. I love Hunting Horn, Gunlance and SwitchAxe, but just discovered how much fun Dual Blades are about 2 days ago and WOOOOOOO I'm hooked

I honestly feel the same. I hadn’t played in many months and coming back to Alatreon was truly refreshing. I’ve played it everyday since he came out

Finally! Love your comments about this. People just want to stay in their comfort zone and steamroll everything. So when their "meta" set got screwed over by Alatreon, they were upset. They couldn't accept that the cookie cutter build they have been using is ineffective against this new end game boss. They refuse to learn, refuse to adapt. They complain about DPS check because they want to play as a tank, as defensively as possible, and then got OHKO by Escaton. Also when they say "I can deal with the whole fight except for the ulti", that's BS, because if they have been hitting Alatreon all the time, they wouldn't have issue with the ulti, would they? It simply means they either "deal with Ala" by playing very defensively, or outright bring in raw weapon and complain about it. This is a great challenge, and a great wake up call for people to get better at the game and play in different style. Also, if they really cannot defeat this monster...well, so be it. It's a game. Either you practice and learn, or just accept that you cannot complete it and move on. The only BS here is MR24... that kinda set the expectation wrong for many people and make SOS a massive pain.

I agree. It’s a fun fight. I’ve killed him over 60 times now between multi and solo and still enjoying it. Now that everyone is getting the hang of him multi has become really fun.

Finally soloed Alatreon last night. 23mins 22sec with my fully upgraded kjarr ice cb. Took back to back carts after breaking the horn each time, then had one cart left and it switched to ice. I got up at camp, dusted myself off, grabbed my kjarr king CB, and finished it off once it switched to dragon. Excellent fight. Although, I still have a special place in my heart for my behemoth solo.

Love the Alatreon fight. I totally skipped/missed Master Rank Kulve but am so glad I came back for this. I can solo him with LBG and Lance, but I continue to replay it to see if I can kill him with the other weapon typess. Don't change a thing!

I thoroughly enjoyed the fight. His hitboxes are so damn tight, I love evading through his attacks. Makes me feel like some sorta godlike speedrunner.

We've been playing the fight and we've enjoyed it. It is pretty strategic fight but it is doable. We actually enjoyed losing in order to learn the mechanics.

I'd just change Escaton judgement from deal X amount of elemental damage. To a gradient of damage. Meaning, the elemental damage you deal directly reduces the amount of damage escaton judgement deals. Bit more fair that way rather than a hard dps check.

I agree with the part about the elemental weapons being weaker than raw ones. From the moment i started MHW in 2018, I liked building elemental sets and exploit the weaknesses of monsters. But where i was hitting for 150 damage, the raw weapons hit for 180, and I was extremely dissapointed. Alatreon was a good step in the elemental weapon's redemption.

I wouldn’t be fighting him this much if I wasn’t having fun. And beating him solo without fainting was a great experience.

I have seen a lot of people complaining that there running out of healing items so I made a list of what you need in you item bag 10 mega potions 10 potions 10 honey This will let you craft another 10 so you will have 20 mega potions total. I recommend only making another 5 mega potions then saving the rest of you honey for mega nutrients to make max potions. 2 max potions 5 mega nutrients 5 nutrients 10 mandragora mushrooms This will let you craft 5 more max potions then 5 more mega nutrients (mega nutrients do require honey so don't use it all up making mega potions) then another 5 more max potions so you will have a total of 12 max potions 2 dust's of life 4 gloamgrass buds 3 lifepowders 10 godbugs 6 bitterbugs This will let you make another 4 dust's of life's so you will have 6 total. You can make another 6 lifepowdes so you will have 9 total 1 ancient potion For when you cart before you can eat again 5 astera jerky 5 great sushifish's if you have any not really needed TBH Only use when he is doing his nova use it as soon as your health reaches half you should only need to take one per nova plus a mega potion, lifepowder, or dust's of life So in summery you will have; 15-20 mega potions 7-12 max potions 6 dust's of life 9 lifepowders 1 ancient potion That's a lot of healing I have never used all of it in one fight. Good luck hope this helps.

I compare planting a wyrmstake blast on Alatreon to trying to thread a sewing machine while it's running.

This is THE BEST description of the Alatreon fight I have heard or read!

Personally, I think the one shot kill gimmicks in MHWI are overall cheap, uninteresting, & unbecoming of Monster Hunter supposed to be. Also, the power scales of some weapons types are totally unbalance & unfair imo. Also, HBG raw damage still destroyed Alatreon. Nothing's really different. CAPCOM really need to overhaul the elemental system & also buffs the bottom list weapons to make it much more balance.

You phrased it perfectly imo. I hope the mh team keeps doing monsters like this, its such a refreshing fight. Apparently there is even a petition to change alatreon wich i hope doenst scare the mh team for future updates

My view on the elemental damage check is that out of all other damage checks in the game alatreon's is the best. With a monster such as kulve taroth you are constantly stressed never knowing if you're successful until you progress into the next phase or you fail the quest because you didnt do enough damage. You immediately know when you have met alatreons damage check when the handler speaks and he falls to the ground. Speaking of which, it is so satisfying when you knock him down especially when he is in the air. And for my final point, the damage check actually rewards you for your efforts. Yes it weakens escaton judgement but that knockdown opens alatreon up for you to do major damage to it not to mention you can do this to alatreon multiple times before he does his next eschaton judgment.

i havent played MHW in forever, i was so burnt out, but this monster brought back the fun and was the spark that reignited that dying flame. Im having a blast fighting him both solo and with randoms. The fight is challenging and beating him feels so satisfying.

I've been trying to solo Alatreon with a hammer to get a good weapon to try to solo Fatalis for a bit now. I'm doing it because I don't have a choice: I do not have PS+, so no online carries, no Kulve Taroth, no Safi'Jiva. Is it frustrating? Yes. I've been banging my head against the wall that is this fight. But I've been changing my build, I've been farming for weapons that I never thought I'd ever come close to (Frostfang Barrioth hammer, Leonid Starcrusher, etc...), I've been trying to fight tougher and tougher monsters for augments and it feels refreshing. Although, a part of me still thinks a little bit of bullshit is involved. Alatreon, Fatalis, Kulve, Safi, etc... Were made for teams of 4. A solo player will get ALL of the aggro and ALL of the attacks of the monster will be directed towards them. And with how ridiculously fast these guys get, it's not really fair to expect any new guy who's been craddled through the base game with OP gear to get through a fight like this. I do think this fight should not have been MR24. It's just not ok. In the end, I'm doing it to prove something to myself. Complaining and whining about the game not being fair will not give me that satisfaction I'm looking for. Thank you for your videos, lad. You and others have been helping me a ton with your gameplay, guides and tips. Edit: The deed is done, I made it! I used a Polaris Bash (Frostfang Barrioth Hammer), and with a little bit of fiddling around with decos and augments, I had it at 1000 ice damage! It took 34 minutes and 2 faints, but I have done it! Next will be Fatalis, but I'll go mess with the GL a whole lot more before tackling that Fatty!

I disagree. This monster feels like it was made in one month. OHKOs are a cheap, annoying mmo mechanic that should never be present in a MH game. Escaton judgement was poorly implemented in regards to how element works in this game. "Just bring element" clearly wasn't enough, as dragon, water and thunder really suck for this fight. The fact that you need to be hyper aggressive to a monster who is very fast, has many AoEs and can fly otherwise he nukes you two minutes later really fucks over slower weapons hence why it feels like it was rushed. Behemoth showed the B team what it felt like to make an mmo boss, and they really liked it.

World was my first game and this monster was the reason for putting the game down. Coming back to world in 2023 after getting more hunting experience from Risebreak, I have come to appreciate Alatreon. The feeling of finally soloing it was exhilarating.

I couldn't agree more. I really love the Alatreon fight it is challenging but it made me a better hunter. It felt like I achieved something the first time I slayed him.

When alatreon launched me and my friend tried, failed then waited for information on him and when I figured out the whole elemental check we went in with me on ice DB that being my main weapon and my friend in a raw great sword being his main weapon and he did heavy horn damage to break them in time and me just focusing on weakening his power and we killed him first try in 18 minuets and after farming for his armour and weapons killing him 5-6 times we never fainted and got the time down to 14 mins to kill him and the only difference between when we failed at the start and killing him later easily is just that we knew how the fight worked. And for my set to hit the elemental checks on 2 player difficulty was just silverlos mix and the ice Element tree DB so I just can not see how people are struggling so much

Best fight in the game? No Best version of the monster? Heck Yes!

I'm kind of 50/50 here. I love Alatreon's moveset and think he may be the best version we've ever had to fight (although my heart is always with Tri Alatreon), but I do think the escaton judgement makes the fight feel super unfair at times. I'm one of the people Rurikhan addressed in the video - I played a lot of World but haven't kept up with some of the dlc, namely MR Kulve and Safi. For me, the fight felt too much like it was tuned for those monsters' equipment and not at all for base iceborne equipment. I tried the quest with AT Namielle armour and Beo dual swords but I was getting to the 4th or 5th nova because the damage output was so far off of what meta stuff can do. I ended up having to build silver rath gear and barioth weapons to get him down, and it was probably the biggest adrenaline rush I've had in World, so I commend it for that. My issue is that because it's tuned for endgame stuff only, if your elemental damage is good enough to stop the nova but your overall damage isn't super high, you eventually enter an unwinnable state. If you stop the nova twice consecutively and break the horns both times, you can stop the next nova, but then your weapon does 0 elemental damage once he changes elements, and if you're in a group, you're guaranteed to fail the quest if you didn't have people eat for safeguard AND insurance. This is assuming you didn't already ship a death to his base moveset, which is very easily done, and it just feels super bad to invest the time and effort in the hunt, only to have to abandon right towards the end. I think if they had made it so that he couldn't change elements once both horns were broken, that would have been fair since then you could still win with just having good elemental damage, but as it is you're pigeonholed into using safi or silver rath armour if you don't have a kjarr weapon and it feels bad. I still love hunting him but I don't even think escaton judgement was necessary - they could have given him bad physical hitzones and good elemental hitzones, or made it so his parts only broke to elemental damage if they wanted us to use elemental weapons, but instead we have this ham-fisted all-or-nothing approach which has rubbed a lot of hunters the wrong way. That's not even mentioning the hunters who aren't allowed to use their main weapons against him (I'm a gunlance main and using a gunlance without shelling feels pointless and bad). The hunt is great when you play by its rules, but having to play by its rules has, in itself, made a lot of hunters unhappy. If you only use one weapon type and it's really bad with element, this hunt is going to suck for you, and that's a real shame. Sorry for the essay and thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Pro tip for getting Kjarr weapons: gold wyverian prints can be exchanged for HR Kulve gems, which can then be melded into 2 max rarity Kulve weapons. Gold prints come from completing bounties and answering low HR SOS. Takes a while but grind is WAY down.

His fight is exhausting to me for being a long one, but i love the hell out of it, and dont know how much of an unpopular opinion this is but im totally fine with a monster being better handled with some weapons than others, its something that has been happening since base world... Personally, i realized this that one time i had to switch to a long ranged weapon as a hammer main to hunt kushala daora cause his wind aura would not let me get close even with a windproof build on and it was annoying as hell, so i switched tactics, and it worked wonderfully, end of story. People are just too quick to complain sometimes, not even attempting to be more efficient in any way at all or try new things. This fight is perfect to reflect just that. Hope it never gets nerfed.

I will be honest I'm not a fan of the fight I was initially having difficulty with the dps check so I switched to ice then I found I had issues due to the speed of the weapon I was using so I switched to insect glaive and the fight became a joke. The reason I'm not a fan of this is because it. Definitely feels like this fight is skewed to specific builds and weapons and so because of that I feel I can't enjoy this fight as much. It's alot like meta builds, sure they are the best but with all other monsters it isn't necessarily required so you can really just experiment and try new things with alatreon it just feels so much more limited

The bit you said about the new player experience is also so very true for me as a player who has not played this game for a very long time...its just super super overwhelming to get back into, plus I am super bad at this game, like I have to refill 3 times with mega potions in my camp on any hunt iceborne has thrown at me (I did Velkhana last I remember) so much so that I have drained all my mega pots store and also I don't know what gear to craft and my existing gear is also unoptimized garbage...so yeah, coming back to this game feels like climbing a huge mountain and I don't know where to begin.

Nice video Rurikhan. And I share the same opinion! And some of the points you commented seem so obvious that it is hard for me to believe that people did not notice it. MH World has become such a casual game, I played MHGU and, my God, G-Rank in the old games is terrifying, unlike the "G-rank"/Master Rank in MHW.

I’ve killed him 8 times carted many times and love this fight. I had to relearn switchaxe for this fight. Quite enjoyable killing my first black dragon

Alatreon is so fun, challenging, and engaging that every other monster seems boring now.

Honestly breaking the horn should be how you stop the EJ, this fight would probably be one of my favorites if not for the Judgement. Making a fight like this is not how you fix the weapons being too powerful thing, far from it, it's how you lose a good number of players.

I have given this fight a chance. I've got this monster drilled down in my head, and yet, I still get deleted. Bringing an ice attack set, with an ice element weapon, and still losing, because there's way too many things to focus on at the same time. It is needless artificial difficulty. I understand it's an element based fight, but having to focus on making sure you don't die combined with making sure you break the parts you need and passing it's DPS check is getting unreasonable. In fact, the only thing that seemed to work was to use a kinsect that's charged up that does ice. Capcoms biggest and baddest monster. Defeated by a bug. Let that sink in.

Guess I'm the odd one out here since I beat him solo and the first thing I asked myself was "was it worth it?" The fight is fine but the whole you dying no matter what if you fail to deal enough elemental damage is just not fun and feels cheap. Wouldn't it have been better or at the VERY least more interesting if his normal moveset and the environment ramped up in difficulty as you fail dps checks? As it stands there's no counterplay if you fail one and you just stand by and accept your cart as he does his lil animation. The way I beat him was just to use an ice element kinsect to meet the elemental check (It actually meets it very very very fast which is funny) and then I just use a raw IG to break his horns/wings/slice tail ie fight him like a normal and more enjoyable monster.

Hey, his LBG is amazing. Totally changes the LBG meta.

'Khan, literally everything you just said I agree with 100%,. I'm also back to playing MHW as much as I can find time for, and that's the biggest compliment surely? Plus, the Alatreon LBG has opened up viable elemental play for me, the deeps are ridiculous, lovin' it.

I remember my first Alatreon encounter in MHGU. It was just an HR rank Alatreon but already gave me nightmares like, what is wrong with this monster, so frickin' annoying in all aspects

this fight nearly made me stop playing world because im a firm beleaver of dps checks not being in monster hunter to start with didnt support it with Ecliptic meteor and i still dont support it for alatreon. now if the dps scaling of the EJ was tuned to lower your hunter to like 1 hit point non red hp and just instill that sence of panic it would be understandable its recoverable a tone of resorces if your not runing free meal or free meal secret so its still a punishment for not meeting a dps check Exspecily after you break both horns and he can switch to say fire while your useing fire or ice when useing ice. also this video dose make the point of newer players i had a whole group contemplate quitting the whole game and even as some one from the ps2 era of mh i felt belittled by this dps chek bs. but im stuborn and kept at it till i won thin had to run it another 50 or so attempts with said group till they won because i cant just leave friends to suffer alone....needless to say unless some one needs it im never touching this fight agin as hes just not worth the time to grind him. IMO he was done well for his move set but didnt need a room wipe we dont need "oh the monsters runing away" befor the end hunt timer or hey dps chek room clears. let that stuff stay in WoW and FF14. thats just my openion cant wait to see the dps chek for fatalis as the dev have shown there liking the dps chek mechanics.

Alatreon shouldn’t be in the air for longer than 10 seconds

Dang people really called themselves good players and started complaining about alatreon *the elemental black dragon* Jeez the fight was amazing in my opinion. All you had to do was corrupt its elemental power, it even shows an animation when you do it, after that wait for it to go into dragon mode. Thats when you can break a horn. Then the judgement starts, you end up surviving because you corrupted the monster and it stays in the same starting element mode because you broke a horn. Its that simple. Im suprised no one started making elemental builds after safi because if you haven't noticed elemental attacks work way better then raw depending how weak the monster is to the element. It upset me that the alatreon they put before fatalis had so little health. But i was glad the fatalis fight took survival skill and tactics.

Appreciate the part about Kulve/Safi weapons/armor. I skipped both as they relied on Multiplayer and I don’t have anyone to play with, so whenever I tried we’d wipe due to randoms. As such I had to rely on a Barioth GS which struggles to meet the element cap, it can but only if I play perfectly and don’t miss a single hit opportunity

The elemental weapons should have been more relevant from the start of mhw and with a monster like Alatreon is good to give element weapons even more importance than they should have had from the start, still i feel downplay raw like that is not the best answer. Still better than nothing. Anyway Ala is lots of fun

Your right were too op. Remember the days when you had to master almost every move in games like in freedom unite ? It was so regarding I've been getting my ass kicked solo with a GS but it feels good man a challenge!

I think the only move within Alatreon's set the is unfair, is when he is flying he zooms over to you and does an aoe dragon element explosion in the air. The movement on that is so fast and the range so large, it's very difficlut to deal with. I have only actually seen him use the move once over like 10 fights though.

Thank you ruri!! Also I myself am a BIG FAN of the slap lance gunlance playstyle!

Yesturday, with a friend, we were able to beat this monster, it was my first time killing it, and it was AMAZING! It was hard, we used safeguard, insurance, cat revives but in the end we did it. The hunt just made us better players since we needed to craft some new weapons, armor, use new strategies... Such an amazing hunt imo.

I feel like in the early days of Monster Hunter to see a new monsters moveset and Dangerous attacks and prepare yourself so that you could Play around the Monsters moveset that was almost always the whole fun of hunting in this genre. To whine about the escaton is basically like saying Im to bad to adapt to a Fight so make it easier pls which is kind of a well get good answer worthy expectation😅

thanks ruri for saying what i could not put in words

One thing to help some lower level players is that you can add a health augment to rarity 10 weapons as early as MR 50. Rarity 11 as early as MR 70. Its certainly not ideal but there are a handful of weapons such as the deep schnegel charge blade which can dish out enough elemental damage at your lower levels while not sacrificing too much. Most other weapon types may take a hit on overall damage but it may be worth sacrificing a small amount of damage in order to get that health augment in. I've also come to love the fight. Got to beat it several times while at home over the last weekend. My biggest problem with it right now is that it's event quest only. I'm unfortunately stuck working remotely for the summer and am spending long periods of time where my only source of internet is satellite which is very slow and has limited data needed primarily for work. Suffice it to say, I can't use it for online gaming or connect my PS4 to it at all. Without an internet connection, I can't fight it at all beyond the Special Assignment while up here now until I get home despite it being manageable solo and seems intended to be playable in a solo environment. I get the raid monsters needing an online connection but not monsters that can be fought solo like this or the upcoming Barioth variant which will also be event only. Oh well... still love the game and everything it has to offer. Looking forward to farming it a little more along with doing the new festival quests when I'm home next.

Personally even though I managed to solo this fight myself, it didn't feel rewarding at all. Felt exhausted actually. Haven't launched Iceborne since. The main reason why people dislike it, in my opinion, is not just because of EJ, or elemental requiremements, or not being able to use MT. It is because the game doesn't have enough other options provided to the players to facilitate actual opportunities to clear the content. The current meta in Iceborne has been for a while: you either go for MT, you go for Safi, or you go for Kjarr elemental. And I am one of the people who didn't care about Kulve. I found vanilla HR Kulve boring personally, and thus skipped it. But Alatreon felt like it was needlessly punishing me for not using top tier elemental weapons. So I had to do it with rank 10 Beotodus Dualblades, which was a pain in the ass. I have to agree with you on 2 points: 1. Kulve and Safi shouldn't be the go to events for the best weapons. Kinda goes along with my point above where we need more options for viable weapons/armour combinations. 2. MR requirement definitely should be higher than 24. What I disagree with you on: "It is optional content, you don't have to do it". Actually, new content doesn't *feel* "optional" for players because they want to experience it, especially if it is a completely new monster. It triggers the fear of missing out, and it feels really bad when players think they can't experience it to the fullest, which you can also add as one of the reasons people didn't like Alatreon's mechanics. Overall it IS a good fight, thing is, it doesn't feel like one because of all the annoyances with the game itself that add to it.

“The community” as I’m the people carried by the people from other monster hunter games

I agree when I first fought him I was so frustrated I almost quit...but I persisted, adapted to his attacks and was eventually victorious. Solo with a God damn dragonbone longsword. One of my greatest accomplishments as a gamer!

I watched everyone lose their minds when this first came out. Everyone was screaming that it was unfair. I researched Alatreon's weakness with elements, watched a few test runs, grabbed my lbg and I was off to the races. BEAT him first try. Then I beat him second try with the GS. I ended up beating him 26 times over the course of a week. I made ALL his equipment and RETIRED from him. If you aren't any good at solo play, then you are just a liability in multiplayer.

Dps check is never a good idea in a monter hunter game. I played them since the first ine on ps2. This is NOT a game about dps. This is a game about hunting, when you hunt sometimes you retreat and gather items, sometimes you use the environment, sometimes you use traps, smoke bombs, drinks. This fight ignore 90% of the game's mechanic. It's not a challenge, it's just annoying. I killed him 3 times already and i never felt happy or proud. Thank you for reading this whoever you are.

Ala isn’t awesome it’s artificial difficulty.

I agree. One thing I miss from old monster hunters is figuring out the element the monster is weak to, and then crafting that weapon. I like having different weapons that look like the monster, pre Randy Pitchbone... I took an ice hammer to this fight and my success rate went up considerably.

Man i just beat alatreon solo for the first time today after like a week of failed attempts, i used the fish greatsword and silver rathalos armor can confirm it very posible with craftable weapons

still couldnt kill him even once even with a group from this community

"The community is so up in arms about Alatreon" Me: aahh no, just the casuals below MR 100 with NO IDEA how to make a build.

I love the fight because he's a huge perfect rush magnet

I'm months late here but there's no excuses. We god moded base game. Over 100+ Behe carries, including Extreme I took those same builds and beat Iceborne with all HR gear. Didn't even craft MR until like MR30. Everything is beatable no matter the circumstances. Learn the game before complaining about it 🤷‍♂️

A dps check is not a challenge, its a cheap way to increase the difficulty...

Alatreon is my favorite hunt in the game

I beat Alatreon for th3 first time last night since release and I have fought it everyday and I have to say this was amazing, what a challenge. Honestly the best monster. Great fight, great mechanics and just so much fun. Dropped him a further 3 times later on 😁.

The first few days of his release I was hating on Alatreon and his nova, but after killing it 4 times and learning how to deal with his nova I actually started like his fight now so thanks Capcom for actually giving me a challenge.

This is the kind of content that seperates your channel from the rest @Rurikhan. Love the more informal discussions like this about the game. And I'm glad so many of us hunters have came back to the game and are having an awesome experience right now! I just got my first sub 10 minute Alatreon kill today and it felt great.

After failing the special assignment countless times and watching different guides on how to fight Alatreon I was just about ready to give up on it. Watching this video was very encouraging, and informative also- as I haven't really augmented my weapons, which I neglected as I am too lazy to go to the guiding lands. I have a long path ahead of me now, but at least I know which direction to go.

The first 2 days after Alatreon released, i always failed to defeat him on special assigment. But, in the third day after watching some guide (including Ruri vids) and learn Alatreon move pattern i managed to defeat him in solo, and after that moment i have no longer problem on facing him anymore then managed to create his full set and some weapon. I think Alatreon is awesome in many ways. It is "challenging" but not "impossible".

the craftable weapons just need more tier of augmentation. Raging brachy, furious rajang, and alatreon materials surplus will collect dust otherwise

This is the best fight for me since Kulve Taroth. I felt the same way as I did about this fight as temp. Kirin. I could not beat it, and so I put a lot of thought into what I was doing wrong, and how to defeat it. And then it was easy. Same for Kulve and Alatreaon. Furious Rajang, not so much. I like fights where I'm forced to dig out my materials and craft something specifically for that fight. so kudos to Capcom for making this one of those quests where my squad cheers when we finish it!

My only problem with Alatreon right now is the arena. I wish it had more walls/pillars in which we can flinch shot him.

I just love how challenging they made it.

I'm not the "grinding" type, and I'm just MR 150 without full augmented stuffs but I like Alatreon and the fact that it's doable (I killed it maybe once with a team and 3 times with randoms) but I still get rekt in solo. But even then, I really would like to manage a solo hunt, or a duo with a GS friend, because it's hard but fun ! You can dodge his attacks, you can manage to meet the element dps check, you can even cart the nova but still win... It is just a challenging hunt for decent hunters so it is great ! And at the end of the day, by managing to kill it, you get better at the game. I'm even finding myself wanting to try other weapons ! I started the base game with LS then I switched and mainly I'm a lancer, usually now I play HH, some hammer for fun, recently some CB, and I tried some gunlance thanks to you Rurikhan ! I like monsters that make you want to try a different approach. Raging Brachy made me try LBG sticky for instance. Alatreon made me try switchaxe. Now I think I will even try DB ! (still not IG... no not yet...) So yeah... I enjoy it !