The reason for me that Silver is so good is because of his mere humanity. He is only a man, imperfect and complex, but he was never evil. Just at a crossroads.

Treasure Planet and Atlantis: The Lost Empire are two absolute jems that deserved more than what they got.

I just rewatched this movie recently. One of the only times Disney's attempts at a sympathetic villain actually worked.

You never truly discover who Silver is or where he came from. And yet they do something incredible with Silver regarding his prosthetics. In that moment when Jim asks him about them, he pauses, frowns, looks at his metal hand and mumbles, “You give up a few things, chasing a dream.” And that’s it. That implication in fact gives you a far deeper understanding of who Silver is than a full exposition of his past would have done. It doesn’t matter where he got his wounds. It only matters that he refuses to talk about it. Maybe it’s so traumatic that he can’t put it into words. Maybe he can’t talk because it would reveal his piratical scheme. His frown briefly implies that he wouldn’t take kindly to the question from anyone else, but because it’s Jim, he can find it in him to at least give a hint. His vague answer also reveals the extent of his obsession with the treasure. He’s so obsessed that he’s given up half his body in his quest for it. This is a man who “sticks to his course no matter the squalls” to the point of self-destruction. And it encapsulates the dark side of Silver’s inspirational message: Jim must learn to stick to his course, but he must also know to abandon it before it consumes him. I am baffled by the amount of storytelling and depth they were able to pack into two seconds of facial expression from this character.

John Silver was never evil to begin with. Sure, he was obsessed, calculating and driven. But he's not without his humanity. He never displays any unreasonable cruelty or genuine malice. He just wanted Flint's treasure. But he was able to act above his obsession. He's not perfect. But he's far from being genuinely evil.

"You give up a few things, chasing a dream" That quote aligned with the idea that Jim's dad left to pursue a dream of higher value than his own son is so heartbreaking to consider

This what you call "Anti-Villain". A villain that lack evil nature similar with Zuko from Avatar.

It makes me so infuriated how Disney literally sabatoged it from the start because of their own mistakes.

Treasure Planet is criminally underrated

He protects He attacks But most importantly.. he got that heart and dad bod.

What sets this movie apart from most other Disney works is that it was a work of love. It wasn't just another story brought to life, the directors made this movie from their passion. Dosney sent it out to die at the box office to put them back in their place

Treasure Planet is so underrated and deserved so much more. Silver is an amazing villain and his and Jim's relationship is truly like no other that Disney has ever created. It is such a shame that Disney sabotaged this movie and let it flop. It could have easily been a cult classic, like it deserves to be. This movie and these characters will always have my heart.

To us he is a villian but to Jim he's the dad that steped up ❤

Silver isn't the step father, but he's the father that stepped up

Treasure Planet is an underrated Disney classic. It was announced in 2002 that a sequel, titled Treasure Planet 2, was scripted, but was eventually canceled due to the film not being successful in theaters. Silver was originally going to return in the canceled sequel Treasure Planet 2, where he would be revealed to have started a smuggling ring, and comes back to help Jim, Amelia, Doppler, and their friends defend their galaxy from a villain named Ironbeard, albeit of the sake of acquiring the new ship Ironbeard had stolen.

As a guy who never had a real dad, this movie always held a special place in my heart. Silver is the villain that showed me everything isn't simply black and white or good/evil. I wish Treasure Plant got the recognition it deserved when it originally released.

For me, the reason that Silver works so well as a villain in Treasure Planet is because he's a near perfect counterpart of Jim. As a bright young delinquent who is trying to not screw up anymore and an older, cunning and deceptive scoundrel, they both doesn't seem much at society's eyes. Yet, they recognize eachother under both their own facades. And they are also the only 2 that trully believed in Treasure Planet being real. Not only Silver builds him up with hard work, knowledge and encoraging words, much like a mentor would, he also gives him the hardest test of all: by being the ultimate antagonist to let Jim show what he's made of. This last part is often overlooked how important it is for Jim's character development. All of this while working on his own conflicted feelings of selfish fulfilment of a lifelong dream versus his very own caring side (a side that works well with it's pet Morph, but becomes a liability when it comes to another person). Jim and Silver resonates so well because both men are antithesis of what their archetype means (Jim at the begining in the movie, Silver at the end of it).

Who needs Disney princesses when we have Silver👍

Take a note Disney. THIS is how you write a good antagonist give them the same goal as the hero have them be a real person an actual grounded person. This may not make them a villain but you'll have your antagonist

Silver is complicated, as most humans are. I love how he doesn’t turn from his life of crime in the end, doesn’t suddenly do a 360 and turn himself in. But meeting Jim changed him nonetheless. Great video.

This is one of Disney's most unique animated villains as he's not only the one that has an arc but he truly changes for the better.

One thing the movie does really well, is keeping the audience in the loop when the characters aren't. We know very early on Silver and his crew are pirates, Jim suspects at first but he has no proof and he bonds with Silver to the point he may even think the cyborg thing to be a coincidence. The pirates don't know how much Silver ACTUALLY cares for Jim, even when they suspect it, Silver plays it really well to throw them off, but then JIM thinks Silver doesn't actually care about him. All the while the character acting in the animation betrays the actual emotions and feelings they hide from the other characters, while you have all the information. Its something thats missing in a lot of movies these days, where they want you to be just as clueless as the characters. And thats fine for some stories, but having that extra context and knowing the truth they're all missing leads to tension and heartbreak where Jim and Silver end up as enemies but YOU know they both still really care about each other so you want them to talk or make up in SOME way. Its a really well crafted narrative and its an absolute shame the movie didnt do well when it came out.

And the thing is about John Silver’s character is that he is a character that sees the reflection of himself in Jim. Which is just an amazing Villain sympathizing the main character without being evil. It’s just plain morality and kindness.

Unpopular opinion that should be regarded as fact: Treasure Planet is Disney's best film

Having a father just abandoning his family is very rare for a Disney movie, but a very relatable situation many people experience. That gives Jim and Silver a layered dimension to their relationship and that’s interesting as hell.

To this day I don't understand why this movie was not a success, I always felt that the characters were particularly developed for the duration of the film. The character design also seems very unique.

John Silver is one of the most complex and human characters that have ever come out of Disney. The way his internal struggle is shown throughout the movie every time he encourages Jim and gives him a piece of his own wisdom truly allows the audience to understand him as a character rather than shoving it through exposition. We see the reasons behind what he does through his parallels with Jim. As part of a teenage audience at the time I feel like, unlike with other Disney characters, we can truly relate to Jim and what he is going through, and having John Silver step up as a father figure has resonated with a lot of us which makes him a very valuable character for the audience too.

He’s genuinely one of my favorite Disney characters. He’s an extremely charismatic character with a charming design. He makes you care about him because you know he genuinely cares about people other than himself. He’s just clouded by his greed for Flint’s trove. Also, a bit of a random thing; I feel like he gives fantastic hugs. Every time he hugs Jim, I feel the warmth coming from it.

I guess this is another reminder to watch this movie. Again. For the 20th time.

If only we had more complex Disney villains that legitimately have good relationships with the protagonist and struggle when it comes to betraying them or performing their evil plan knowing how it’s going to deeply affect their relationship with the protagonist and how the protagonist is going to see him/her from then on. The other Disney villain that had a good relationship with the protagonist is Bellweather with Judy Hopps, but then they just disregard that when Bellweather becomes a typical villain and shows sheer delight in killing Judy by drugging Nick to go savage. As forced as that twist was, it could’ve been somewhat salvaged if it remembered the relationship Bellweather and Judy had by having Bellweather more earnest in pleading Judy to join her in becoming the dominant force in the city of Zootopia, then heartbroken when she feels Judy is “betraying” her and regretful when she has no choice but to kill who was formerly her closest friend with using one of her night howlers on Nick. Even other animated films executed the twist villains with good relationships with the protagonists much better while still acknowledging the relationship the protagonist had with them. Examples I can think of are Waternoose and his relationship with Sully, Miguel and his relationship with Ernesto de la Cruz when he was convinced he was his great-great grandfather and Miles and his relationship with Uncle Aaron where you really do feel the betrayals and change in views the main characters have toward their former mentors/ father-like figures.

One of the several hundred reasons I love this movie and it’s a favorite Disney of mine. A huge reason tho 😂 Silver is undoubtedly one of my favorite Disney antagonists, he feels like one of the most real ones to ever come out of the company with him actually feeling human and complex, from his affection and inspiration towards Jim and his own personal desires portraying an internal tug of war. Such an underrated film man I swear…

Long john Silver (Treasure Planet) is the perfect Anti-Villain for Disney, and he is the one of the few rare Disney Villains that has alot of heart in your previous videos. As a grown man who grew up without a father, I can relate to Jim since he has to deal with real serious issues of an absentee parent and abandonment. We seen him as a rebellious thrill seeker who, like many of us, is looking for an adventures and he gets in trouble most of the time. But over the course his story, he meets Silver who steps in to the a father figure role despite being captain of his pirate crew, Silver chooses his love for the cabin boy over the treasure, and teaches Jim the valuable life lessons such as taking the helm and chart your own course. And stick to it, no matter the squalls. Disney really needs to make more father-son dynamics like this one!

definitely a forgotten gem movie. I never understood why it didn't do amazing in the box office.

I think this phrase say by another legendary bad good villain summons all about Silver: "I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me." Man I will never and I mean never be tired of Treasure Planet, the absolute mistreated Masterpiece of Walt Disney studios in the early 2000, I'm glad this movie have become a cult classic and been recognize now days as the gem that always was. John Silver and Jim been the absolute best of this film, one of the most unique interaction between a Hero and a Villain I have ever seen.

The way John is presented made him one of my favourite fictional characters ever. He’s just great. Also that arm of his is so creative I love it

Imo one of the best father figures in Disney animations

Jim and John are an amazing duo, honestly. The movie as a whole is awesome (I'm a huge fan of snarky Captain Amelia, the visuals are stunning, the music is perfect...), but those two are what really made it stand out. This is really such a unique entry in the Disney catalogue. Both mains are complex in a way that few Disney characters are, and their friendship even more so. It's really fascinating to watch.

Speaking as someone from a divorced family Silver hit me hardest because he was the father Jim never had but desperately needed in his life. It's hard for me to watch the section with the song I'm Still Here comparing Jim's flashbacks and then Silver being present in his current life and not shed tears.

This movie was way underrated compared to what Disney makes now this was a master piece

Treasure Planet is my number 1 movie. The story AND the story behind the characters is beyond good.

Disney really needs to look back on how to make a good anti-villain/anti-hero like John Silver.

This is my all time favorite Disney movie. I relate a lot to Jim: saw myself in him and the man who raised me was a drunk old man who I am proud to call my grandpa.

This version of Silver is my favorite and one of my favorite "villians" of all time. Its like he sees himself in Jim and you see a real father/son relationship develop. Somethings they both desperately needed. A young boy without a father wanting to prove himself and find buried treasure, and an old grizzled pirate looking for all the riches in the world, finding it, and realizing riches mean nothing next to the bond he creates with his adopted son, which is the riches he was looking for all along. Its quite wholesome

Silver is unlike any villain in cinema in history yes he's an anti villain but he has a good side he isn't fully the bad guy he's just someone who's more than just a. Villain he has a heart just like anyone Shakespeare once said "no monster is so cruel cannot fill a hint of guilt therefore I am no monster" he said something like that

Treasure Planet is my favorite animated Disney movie, and it is chiefly because of the relationship between Jim and Silver. This specific iteration of it (because in the book it's all a lie) is probably my favorite father-son dynamic in any film I've ever seen, and I don't think it's necessarily even close either.

Treasure Planet deserves more silver. One of my most favorite characters who didn't want to be a villain disney made treasure Planet fail but disney missed out on something amazing I wish the second treasure Planet that was planned to be made could be made to redeem the old movie

KZfaq must really know that I love this movie cause I got recommended it IMMEDIATELY. The algorithm is algorithiming

I agree with the points as he wants the treasure, he thinks he can be the villain to get what he wants... But his morals gets in the way proving he cares more about the kid than riches.

It always gives me such wamrth to see people talking about Treasure Planet, it has the coolest spaceships designs I've ever seen and it was back when Disney knew how to properly experiment with the blend of 2d and 3d.

This movie is great. I watched it several times as a kid.

Man I love this movie so much! I remember seeing it in theaters as a kid and ending up crying in the very end when Jim sees the Silver shape cloud. Even to this day it tugs my heartstrings. Sucks that it's Disney's fault this movie became so underrated...

For personal reasons this is still one of my favourite movies. I used to have it on VHS and watched it all the time when I was a kid. Even though I didn’t fully understand my emotions it still gave me comfort and honestly it still does.

treasure planet is true Disney masterpiece its a crime that it bombed and also Glen Keane did an amazing job animating John Silver

John Silver is the most realistic depiction of a person with a goal to find wealth and glory. He is a good man underneath all the bad he has to do to get it. It shows the cost for each person he has to wrong in order to get wealth and glory (the glory of being the one to find the legendary treasure and fulfilling his dream). Showing the duality of his own personal ambition with his fatherly nature, forcing him to choose each and every step in the plan. He is the most human and realistic villain Disney has ever done, and likely will ever be done.

Finally showing respect to one of my all time fave redeemed villains. I knew from the moment he hesitated shooting Jim as he made his escape, he was never truly a villain. He was the Father Figure that Jim needed in his life

The fact that Disney stopped using Computer Cell Shading after making this film because of the cost involved is a complete travesty.

That Video made me Emotional! That was Beautiful, that made me Love this Villain. That makes me want to Watch this Movie!

Omg a treasure planet video, I'm so excited!! This movie is incredibly underrated it's so sad :(

One scene I absolutely adore takes place in the Black Hole scene. As everyone is holding onto the ship for dear life and praying that their lifelines hold out the last thing Silver does while holding Jim and himself close to one of the masts is look down at him to see if he's ok and secure before closing his eyes and awaiting what comes next. Be that a very painful end or the great relief of having made it out alive due to everyone's combined efforts. Another scene that did something similar is the scene in Bambi when Man appears in The Meadow and Bambi gets separated from his mother in all the panic as everyone flees for their lives. Bambi is equally panicked and as all seems hopeless his father, The Great Prince of The Forest, then appears and begins to lead Bambi away to safety in the treeline. But as he does this Bambi's father never truly takes his eyes completely off Bambi as he's running with him until his mother shows up. He's *always* looking back to see if Bambi is keeping up ok or if he's tripped on say a root or a large stone. And when Bambis mother arrives his eyes are forward and focused on escaping because now there's no need to look back anymore, Bambis mother has that covered. Subtle gestures of caring like these are really underrated but still quite powerful too.

As I grow older, I relate more and more to Silver, and James James for losing out having a father figure, thanks to family members, so that to this day hurts more than I can put into words. And with Silver, because when I see a child, without a father figure, I feel I have to help someway, not replace a father figure, but somehow help them feel warmth of a father figure. It's weird to say, but having experienced the lost of a father figure, I know how it hurts, not having that in life, even a small father figure is better than none

Honestly, looking back, i recall when this movie came out... It is not an accident this movie is underrated. It was murdered by disney marketting.

Silver reminded me so much of the passing father figures I had in my early life. I don’t think any film has ever perfectly illustrated the conflicting relationship of a stand-in father figure who made selfish choices but still tried to do the right thing in the end. Truly a masterpiece that deserved more praise in its day. I’m glad it’s getting that praise now.

it truly a rare treasure to see a full 2d movie that tried to take advantage of 3d without giving into it.

"Just a lifelong obsession, Jimbo, I'll get over it."

I always loved John In this movie. And I completely believe that he loves Jim. This movie did a good job of not making Jim seem like this hapless victim of fatherlessness, but making him and John Silver seem like kindred spirits. One of the best movies i've ever watched. Once in a blue moon kids get movies like this these days and im happy for them, but this movie had a timelessness to it and a lot of that was due to John Silver

Treasure planet is the movie us guys without a dad need nowadays, not the whole "Do better, be better, your a monster, absolve for your sins" message pushed on us by the media

The simple line that completely sells Silver for me is when asked about his cybernetics by Jim he simply replies "You lose a few things chasing a dream." So simple, so brief, but tells us so much about Silver, about what he's willing to give up in pursuit of his goals, and that once he was just like Jim, just a boy on a quest.

God me and my sister CONSUMED this cassette, we know the song PERFECTLY to this day and it is still our favourite movie ever, everything in this movie is perfect and i still hate the fact that the world wasnt in kh3. Excellent analysis dude, loved it, all things i completely agree on

I love this movie so much. The relationship between silver and Jim makes me cry every time. It’s so beautiful.😢❤

also did any one else notice a pretty subtle detail on Jim? when he's being rebellious, he has shadows around his eyes but once he starts to change, they are gone and then permanently gone by the end.

This movie helped me connect with my stepdad better and taught me it's better to be a good villain than a bad hero

As a child I watched Peter Pan every single time I went to my grandparents houae. Then this movie came into my life some time after that. Silver was so much my favorite character I never saw him as a enemy, but rather a role model. He is a sweet talker and a smart a$$, tough but compassionate at times, conflicted, imperfect, we can keep going. He has morales that he holds to, so much so it causes conflict in himself. "Stick to it!" Honestly I struggle to find how else to explain him that isn't already in the video. He may be a villain in the story, but insert him in any other plot and he could be that harsh old merc taking a smoke to the guy who looks down on a brawl in a bar and breaks it up "The man's yielded and confessed his mistakes, yet you want to break the lads ribs into a stew? Thas enough now."

I remember Long John Silver. He was the first villain to show me how far the degrees of villainy can go without completely giving up on what it means to be human. First example I remember of a sympathetic villain, one who may even have been redeemed by the compassion he came through with at the end. Treasure Planet sounds like a movie I'd like to see if they recaptured that fellow and his story in sci-fi trappings.

It was so funny, I made my bf watch it with me bc he hadn’t seen it and I love it and he recognized the singer of Im still here and now it’s in his playlist lmao

I’ve always loved this movie as a kid, and I still do

If I ever get to request a character drawing from animator Glen Keane, it would be John Silver. I am OBSESSED with this portrayal!

"the greatest underrated disney film ever released" was literally the only Disney movie I had growing up and I watched it dozens of times. It still holds up to my childhood love of the movie

dont care what people say, Treasure Planet is and will always be my favourite movie

Still my favorite movie of that Disney era!

Hands down my favorite Disney movie. I love the way how they touch serious subjects and show that Silver isn't just a bad guy, he's a man chasing a dream. And when he meets Jim, he gets in touch with what's really important again, and even sacrifices his dream to save him eventually. Which in return turns Jim's life around so he eventually gets into the space academy. They helped each other to become the better version of themselves.

Putting "You give up a few things chasing dreams" over the Jim chasing his father scene broke my heart

To me John silver is both anti villain sympathetic complex redeemable and humane villain done right far better than any modern Disney villain who is supposedly redeemable or anti-villain has both done wrong and overused too much

Since i was little, I've watched treasure planet 113 times, I used to watch it 2 or 3 times a day. I have always adored it and hold it close to my heart.

i love this film

It failed because there was almost no advertising for it...Disney actually would have made serious bank if they had.

This movie is still very possibly my favorite film I've seen. It has a few others that compete with it, but all for very different reasons. If nothing else, this movie defines my childhood.

So glad to see support for this film.

Silver is one of those things from Disney's past that they will never be able to replicate even if they tried, because let's be honest... They lack the ability to

They don’t make movies like this anymore

This movie was so fucking good, one of my few childhood Disney favorites

I think part of what makes him such a great character is that we are introduced to him as a villain. While he's constantly trying to decieve Jim, the story never tries to decieve us that he isn't who he is, instead of calls into question who he is through his internal struggles

my favourite disney movie & John was by far the best character in the film

As some guy once said: "He may be your father, but he weren't your daddy." I think that fits pretty well.

You've got the makings of greatness in you, but you got to take the helm and chart your own course

Anytime I play a tabletop rpg/story telling game, I steal elements from treasure planet and no one seems to get the reference. But I always get amazing feedback from my players and with the character diversity and adventure that comes from Treasure planet, it’s made for some of the most fun tabletop adventures with me and my group. What an underrated Gem of a movie

I showed this movie to a friend who has never seen much of anything from before the age of Netflix. They loved it, but they were completely *baffled* that some characters actually died in a Disney movie. I just shrugged and said, "That used to be pretty common." Seriously though, Silver was a brilliantly written character. If you're going to "redeem the villain" then by God, do it like *this.*

I cried at least three times in the course of this video. This movie is underrated as hell and I'm glad that people like you and the comments section down here all give it the appreciation it deserves.

THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT MY FAVORITE VILLAIN EVER.

Like #700 for giving this old scallywag his due 😎😎😎 Thanks for the great video Aldone and hug your furbabies all 💙🐱💙

John Silver is how I imagine Shrek's human form actually looks like.