Ale, Kaka or Neymar: Who was the best player in their prime? | ESPN FC Extra Time

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On Monday's edition of ESPN FC Extra Time, the crew discuss:
0:00 Intro
0:21 What countries does Ale support in the World Cup?
3:01 Which ESPN FC member would Dan want to party with?
4:25 Did Frank's move to Qatar affect the way he played?
5:08 After the legends game, do any of the guys think they can still play?
8:31 Ale, Kaka or Neymar: Who was the best player in their prime?
9:56 How much do Robbo, Ale and Frank spend on haircuts?
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@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka's prime was untouchable.
@hinewdaniel2998
@hinewdaniel2998 10 ай бұрын
I beg to differ. Kaka is personally one of my favorites but I pit Kaka over Neymar in most occasions. Kaka never had Brazil's pressure on his shoulders. Neymar, on the other hand, had Brazils hopes and dreams put on him from the beginning. He's dealt with it the best he can and was an instrumental part of that trio of MSN that conquered Europe for a period of time. I've watched PSG only a few times, but when I've seen him play, he's always creating chances or converting them himself. Kaka was great for 2 years at Milan but couldn't continue his form. Remember Neymar hasn't won a Ballon Dor because of Messi and Cristiano. Kaka never had to compete with any player with the same numbers or presence, such as Cristiano or Messi. He beat them when they were just getting started but couldn't compete with them because of his unfortunate injuries.
@LFC-mr6yb
@LFC-mr6yb 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka in his prime actually won the Ballon D’or with Messi and CR7, and was the best player on a Champions League winning side.
@shahabuddin2802
@shahabuddin2802 2 жыл бұрын
Ronaldo was 22 and Messi was a teenager when that happened. Neymar in his prime literally broke the transfer market with his 222m euro transfer fee.
@panditmami3544
@panditmami3544 2 жыл бұрын
Mic drop!
@turnupthesun81
@turnupthesun81 2 жыл бұрын
@@shahabuddin2802 Because PSG was crazy enough to pay that amount of money.
@aidenfrost10
@aidenfrost10 2 жыл бұрын
That's because Messi and Ronaldo were still young padawans.
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
"With Messi and CR7" not really. Cristiano was very young and Messi was a teenager. Messi broke through properly in 2008, which was after Kaka won in 2007 (Messi's first seasons 2005, 2006 and 2007 were very injury prone and he didn't play much, being a teenager - he even missed the 2006 CL final - it was only 2008 he got his injury issues sorted and became regular). I doubt Kaka would have won it had his prime been somewhere between 2008 and 2019.
@vincenzovieri3743
@vincenzovieri3743 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka was unstoppable fun to watch in his prime and at Milan. His injuries were catching up with him and sadly was never the same at Madrid but he never threw himself always took players on. Great control of the ball. I’d chose kaka over neymar anyday. Plus u can count on him to be there or not get hurt 30% of the game
@football_fanatic_Ethan
@football_fanatic_Ethan 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka > Neymar
@ishaanmattoo9732
@ishaanmattoo9732 2 жыл бұрын
You talk about injuries and then say he never got hurt 😂😂
@yao052
@yao052 2 жыл бұрын
@@ishaanmattoo9732 you can't be that dense
@davidfebreeze428
@davidfebreeze428 2 жыл бұрын
@@ishaanmattoo9732 🤦‍♂️
@mauricecrowe9079
@mauricecrowe9079 2 жыл бұрын
Q77
@Lionsraws66
@Lionsraws66 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka was terrifying and unplayable when at AcMilan. I remember his performance at old Trafford in tcl.
@shikaka2325
@shikaka2325 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still trying to forget lol
@Udai_taxim
@Udai_taxim 2 жыл бұрын
@@shikaka2325 same 😂😭
@dheepak9369
@dheepak9369 2 жыл бұрын
table, chairs and ladders?
@arapsimba
@arapsimba Жыл бұрын
Evra & Heinze bumped heads. That performance was ridiculously out of this world
@stopdroproll7258
@stopdroproll7258 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka was my favourite player when I was a kid! He was so special! Injuries ruined his final years as a player.
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
His assist for Crespo in the 2005 final was something else
@Steve55262
@Steve55262 2 жыл бұрын
Mourinho itialian style training
@prasaddeshpande7638
@prasaddeshpande7638 2 жыл бұрын
Should have stayed at AC Milan...
@BC-mj7gj
@BC-mj7gj 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people are using emotions to saying that prime kaka was better than prime Neymar. They were both beast in their primes but Neymar is better than kaka, judging by balon dor doesn't make sense. Kaka won the Balon dor when Ronaldo was 22 and Messi a teenager. Kaka won't have won Balon dor in prime Ronaldo and Messi.
@sreenjoychatterjee82
@sreenjoychatterjee82 2 жыл бұрын
@@BC-mj7gj yes, neymar carried the a broken Brazilian team in his shoulder compared to 2002 wc winning team, kaka may have won the wc 2002 but he did nothing he just warmed up the bench
@saindst
@saindst 2 жыл бұрын
Have to say Kaka, he was a MONSTER at AC Milan, in a time where there were Ronaldinhos, Zidanes, Pirlos, Beckhams, Figos, Ronaldos(original), Robens, Carlos, Cafu, Seadof, MALDINI... THE LIST GOES ON, GET REAL PEOPLE
@whitewolf1289
@whitewolf1289 2 жыл бұрын
thing is these neymar fans didn't watch kaka back then they were too young
@nsm6526
@nsm6526 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in the mid 2000s Brazil team..r9 r10 etc but the guy who looked the best in field and threatening was always kaka
@dnick91095
@dnick91095 2 жыл бұрын
​@OP TBF, there's really good players about now too, in the vein of those you mention, they're just not retired yet so they're not at that cult / legend / nostalgic aura status yet. Modric, Casemiro, Mbappe (very young), Rakitic, Neymar, Griezman, Benzema, Ozil, KDB. @@nsm6526 completely agree. Even in the 2010 WC, after his RM move, everything ran through him. I wish Dunga called R10 for that world cup and I think Brazil could've made that final. Dunga's decision made sence tho as R10 was a bit unmotivated by then haha; he had won everything there was to win
@nsm6526
@nsm6526 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnick91095 tbh r10 in the year of 2010 was motivated because of the upcoming wc..he rediscovered atleast 75 percent of his form with milan and carried them. Dunga was an idiot because apart from kaka..they didn't have anyone to atleast call from the bench..they had guys like elano and Diego but they were never going to be able to win...I mean he chose to take Fred to the wc and leave r10 while I watched r10 working serie a teams and even giving a alex ferguson utd big problems.
@eleazarnavarijo925
@eleazarnavarijo925 2 жыл бұрын
It’s Kaka for me everyday. His pace and shooting just class. He destroyed Man Utd. He won it all at the highest level. In his prime he was an unstoppable CF nutmegs for days.
@ishaanmattoo9732
@ishaanmattoo9732 2 жыл бұрын
So did Neymar ??
@eleazarnavarijo925
@eleazarnavarijo925 2 жыл бұрын
@@ishaanmattoo9732 I do agree that Neymar has won some accolades to represent his undeniable skill. But, if we are comparing both which we are. Kaka has more honors and higher value titles. World cup, Champions League and Player of the Year etc. If Neymar stayed at Barca maybe would of carried Messi's mantle for Barca but, I'm not sure because of his character. Kaka is a gentleman of the sport on and off the field.
@ishaanmattoo9732
@ishaanmattoo9732 2 жыл бұрын
@@eleazarnavarijo925 Kaka has never performed in the World Cup like Neymar has. Just because Brazil won it doesn't mean he should be credited with it
@italiansaya2
@italiansaya2 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the ESPNFC crew. They are so funny. Ale is hilarious. I love the banter. Thanks for making my night every night!
@faycalrebbah1671
@faycalrebbah1671 2 жыл бұрын
they say that they re just clowns and dont know football maan for me these are the best out there ... when its too serious it becomes boring
@russell2890
@russell2890 2 жыл бұрын
@@faycalrebbah1671 that's why the show is popular. It's like inside the nba. The sport isn't the most important thing in the show lol. Football sometimes even gets in the way of the fun.
@jesperhjensen1978
@jesperhjensen1978 2 жыл бұрын
totally agree, found this show youtube 5 months ago, and I cant stop watching
@Silence8766
@Silence8766 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesperhjensen1978 same
@kingtshilobo1849
@kingtshilobo1849 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka definitely. 2007 Kaka is one of the best players I’ve ever seen. Neymar is his prime hasn’t reached that level
@andersoncaipe8474
@andersoncaipe8474 2 жыл бұрын
lol that’s hilarious
@salmanhaider3876
@salmanhaider3876 2 жыл бұрын
And when did ya start watchin? 2017?
@virtuallimit8615
@virtuallimit8615 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thegaminglunatics Is that why Neymar has 0 Ballon d'ors and haven't even reached it's final stage once ?
@luca99191
@luca99191 2 жыл бұрын
What has Kaka got over Neymar in his peak? Absolutely nothing
@jonpool9030
@jonpool9030 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thegaminglunatics if you think Kaka was a one season wonder you're beyond redemption
@zadaddy993
@zadaddy993 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka till this day is my ultimate favorite player. He was class on and off the field . He’s performance in the Instabul final was mind blowing.
@jponz85
@jponz85 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka won ballon d or, was best player, won everything from championships league to world cup. Neymar? Cmon man
@laxman90210
@laxman90210 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe Frank and Ale picked Neymar over Kaka. People have short memories. Kaka was unplayable at times in his prime.
@samirashur2153
@samirashur2153 2 жыл бұрын
thats why we watch the espn crew to laugh not to get any decent football punditry lol
@samizayn5666
@samizayn5666 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar is better than Kaka. Stop with the Nostalgia bs.
@benjaminbronnimann3966
@benjaminbronnimann3966 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar was also unplayable in his prime. Sorry but Neymars 14/15 and 15/16 seasons were better than any of Kaka's seasons. I'm not saying it's clear but people seem to forget how Neymar dominated the football world in his prime, if it wasn't for Messi or Ronaldo people would talk very very differently about Neymar and he'd have at least 2 Ballon d'ors, probably more. Compared to Neymar Kaka was lucky that his prime didn't overlap with Messi's & Ronaldo's prime
@whitewolf1289
@whitewolf1289 2 жыл бұрын
@@samirashur2153 hahaha this guys r clueless
@ElNino2993
@ElNino2993 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka was a midfielder and Neymar is a winger. Not a fair comparison IMO
@markroc2510
@markroc2510 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka all day. ‘05 to ‘07 Kaka was on another level. The best player in a stacked UCL winning Milan team.
@gazb2740
@gazb2740 2 жыл бұрын
That AC Milan team was my favorite team ever, pure magic.
@thedoc225ify
@thedoc225ify 2 жыл бұрын
That Milan team in 2005 is the best team ever on paper
@gazb2740
@gazb2740 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedoc225ify Surpised the comment wasn't auto deleted, nwotube been censoring everything i write recently like the psychopaths they are.
@thedoc225ify
@thedoc225ify 2 жыл бұрын
@@gazb2740 🤣🤣
@mindsai7
@mindsai7 2 жыл бұрын
Not even close, Kaka. Kaka did not waste time or energy on silly Fifa Street style footwork tricks, he just got his defender to put his weight on one foot, then glided past on that side. Followed it with a perfect shot. The amazing passing tops it all off.
@nigelotitus1809
@nigelotitus1809 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka is a special player, Neymar is a special player too. I will choose Kaka over Neymar when it matters most.
@TM-bk3rl
@TM-bk3rl 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I like Neymar but he wasn’t as good as kaka in his prime
@mrjohnsunday
@mrjohnsunday 2 жыл бұрын
Special but also made the game look so simple. Thats what made him so extraordinary as well! Yes Kaka has the edge over Neymar.
@itsmaniog7044
@itsmaniog7044 2 жыл бұрын
Yea kaka always even thought I'm a neymar fan now kaka was my # 1 always
@irfanset4004
@irfanset4004 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, and Kaka won ballon d'Or too
@itsmaniog7044
@itsmaniog7044 2 жыл бұрын
@@irfanset4004 tea that's right he was my favorite player then after he retired I started supporting neymar but neymar just disappointing at times
@TachoSJ
@TachoSJ 2 жыл бұрын
The very best of Kaka was far superior to the best of Neymar. That man was unplayable.
@MrCurtis0050
@MrCurtis0050 2 жыл бұрын
As a Barca fan I can honestly say Neymar at one point was performing at the same level as Messi if not better. It’s sad watching him now because I truly believe he would still be that great had he stayed in Barca.
@davidfebreeze428
@davidfebreeze428 2 жыл бұрын
Are you mad? What have you been watching?😂 he had a hot stretch of a couple of weeks where he was up there but that doesn’t mean he was at messis level ... those were mostly rather meaningless league games if I remember correctly
@MrCurtis0050
@MrCurtis0050 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidfebreeze428 In my opinion he was up there. 2014-2016 Neymar was incredible.
@FootballFan-_-
@FootballFan-_- 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka still better 🤌
@hischransen8069
@hischransen8069 2 жыл бұрын
🏊 Divemar
@acruzro95
@acruzro95 Жыл бұрын
Neymar never performed better than messi's peak in his career. Yes, in 2015 neymar played some months better than messi. But that was neymar's peak. If you compare messi's peak with neymar's peak is not even close. Neymar didnt even reach the peak of kaka or even seedorf or pirlo . Are you 12?
@mattyice1151
@mattyice1151 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka was the best player in the world for 2-3 years
@edd0f
@edd0f 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Ancelotti used to say that for him Kaka was the best in the world at a time Ronaldinho was still king. He knew kaka's true potential.
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar was probably the best player in the world not named Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi between 2015 and 2017 seasons. Given the heights of Cristiano and Messi, that's basically being the best player in the world.
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
@@edd0f Ancelotti always say that about his players, and he admit that he is bias.. he recently said benza is the best in the world.
@edd0f
@edd0f 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Diaz well, he is not wrong. Benzema, Salah and lewwandoski are the best in the world right now. I might even include Mbappe into the list too
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
@@edd0f salah? Lol this is between Lewandowski, Messi, Benzema and mbappe.
@thebibliophile434
@thebibliophile434 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka was Ballon D'Or winner and certainly was x2 of Neymar's worth and ability.
@10whatabeast
@10whatabeast 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously Kaka, He won the Best player Award “Ballon D’or”
@waleabdulhamid4522
@waleabdulhamid4522 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps people have a short memory......Kaka was something absolutely magical to watch
@anotherone801
@anotherone801 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka won a ballon d’or and also he led Milan to champion’s league victory… I remember that semi finale game against Man U oh man it was magic… to me it’s not even close I’ll take Kaka Over Neymar anyday of the week
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
The Ballon D'Or thing isn't really saying much tbh. Kaka was fortunate that his prime was (narrowly) before the Messi-Ronaldo era. I don't think he would have won had his prime been a bit later. Neymar, meanwhile, had to compete with both Messi and Ronaldo in their prime. He came third in the 2015/16 Balon D'Or ceremony (which is pretty astonishing).
@OfficialRapMV
@OfficialRapMV 2 жыл бұрын
@@economicerudite4924 Ballon d'Or was well deserved, he was terrific in the UCLs. People forget the beast that was AC Milan a few decades ago tore apart other leagues, not Kaka fault he was older. I'd say kaka is clear, neymar had a chance but he's bad influence overall in the dressing room. Kaka got pushed out by injuries and mourinho in the end, it took another talented feat by the likes of ozil to replace him.
@ruddock7
@ruddock7 2 жыл бұрын
@@economicerudite4924 Neymar is a bottler when it really matters and you can't rely on him. He flatters to deceive!!
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
@@ruddock7 I don't want to sound like I'm defending Neymar too much because Kaka was one of my favourite players, but Neymar was not a bottler in his prime. Prime Neymar in big games: Multiple El Clasico's where he scored including a 4-0 at the Bernabeu without Messi, Bayern Munich in the UCL semi-final in 2015, Juventus in the UCL final in 2015, Arsenal in the UCL R16 2016, PSG in the UCL R16 2017. These were all huge games where he performed well. Recency bias since Neymar joined PSG is a thing. Prime Neymar at Barcelona was anything but a bottler.
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
@Happen Messi is the greatest player of all time and has monopolised the Ballon D'Or. Kaka never had to compete with anyone like that.
@edcock7
@edcock7 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka by a long shot. Neymar is good but kaka was unstoppable in his prime.
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 2 жыл бұрын
Mid 2000s Kaka = legend
@adewalesmile211
@adewalesmile211 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka for me all day, I love Neymar but Kaka made me fall in love with football man was efficient
@stacy-annscarlett4815
@stacy-annscarlett4815 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka was so graceful and makes the game look so easy and he was tougher than Neymar mentally
@RedSoulful
@RedSoulful 2 жыл бұрын
People who say Neymar, clearly never saw Kaka on his prime. I remember when Deco (one of the best #10 of the 00´s) opted to play with Portugal because he knew he wouldn't have a chance to be a starter with Brazil. He was simply unstoppable. We won Ballon D'Or, Champions League, multiple league titles in Spain/Italy and even a World Cup (even though he barely played in WC 2002). Can't compare him with Neymar.
@jactrich
@jactrich 2 жыл бұрын
I mean Kaka was absolutely great and Neymar hasn’t quite lived up to the hype but it’s Ale we are talking about here, come on
@abdullahisaid4456
@abdullahisaid4456 2 жыл бұрын
What hype msn era was that a hype lol
@manicmahem4548
@manicmahem4548 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar never hit heights of Kaka, you can talk about potential and ability, but he’s never done what Kaka did, which was be the undisputed best player in the world at any point in his career. Ronaldo and Messi have been out of their prime for about 3 years now at LEAST, and he’s never been in conversation for the worlds best player/Ballon d’or. I’ll just add that Kaka lead that AC Milan side in 07 to glory in the Champions League with BREATHTAKING performances, I’ve yet to see Neymar do that in a team without Lionel Messi.
@namitkumar4754
@namitkumar4754 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka made football look ridiculously easy...I still cant forget his goal vs manutd where he headed ball away from two defenders and slotted in !!
@theblaugranainsider
@theblaugranainsider 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Robbo doesn't support the team he has caps for. Legend!
@adamforbes8556
@adamforbes8556 2 жыл бұрын
Where is he from?
@theblaugranainsider
@theblaugranainsider 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamforbes8556 England.
@robertlaskarzewski5885
@robertlaskarzewski5885 2 жыл бұрын
As an American I understand what he means, I almost want the USMNT to fail just so I get to keep complaining about how bad we are. England is like the Manchester United of world football, a team that in every right should be winning matches but can never show when they need to.
@marcovalsecchi5917
@marcovalsecchi5917 2 жыл бұрын
🇮🇹
@bobsagit2683
@bobsagit2683 2 жыл бұрын
Love the funny banter its honestly humbling just love it :p keep that part up from you guys always !
@danielt5640
@danielt5640 2 жыл бұрын
for a second I thought someone was comparing Ale, Neymar and Kaka LOL
@damolaajiboye8950
@damolaajiboye8950 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka definitely. He almost single handedly led AC Milan to the 2007 champions league title. As opposed to Neymar who has yet to do anything remotely close to that.
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
It's a difficult one because that AC Milan team was phenomenal. Remember that Neymar pretty much single-handedly led the comeback against PSG in 2017. 4-0 on aggregate with no away goals, PSG score an away goal. 5-3 on aggregate to PSG with the away advantage and only 7 minutes remaining. Neymar scores a brace and provides an assist to make it 6-5 to Barcelona within the final 7 minutes. That's got to compete with Kaka if we're talking about them both in their prime.
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
@@economicerudite4924 you're drunk. That Ac Milan team was full of old glories and old players.. kaka was 90% of the reason why they won it.
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Diaz That squad had Dida, Maldini, Cafu, Nesta, Pirlo, Seedorf, Ronaldo. Kaka was the best for them, but they were hardly a bad team.
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
@@economicerudite4924 it was an old squad. You were a child and don't remember much.
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Diaz I remember it perfectly well. Yes, the squad was old but they were still world class. You don't win Champion's Leagues unless the whole squad is good. Just doesn't happen.
@Leon-gl8rj
@Leon-gl8rj 2 жыл бұрын
The bald question was gold considering what just happened at the Oscars
@MisraRup
@MisraRup 2 жыл бұрын
Every extra time episode hits different if Ale is there. 😂😂
@liammonninger4187
@liammonninger4187 2 жыл бұрын
Based on that list, Ale.
@nazarruulhaqi4046
@nazarruulhaqi4046 2 жыл бұрын
The phrasing of that tweet is strange lmao
@andypandy4607
@andypandy4607 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Ale for me
@attafuahyeboah7358
@attafuahyeboah7358 Жыл бұрын
Completely different players Kaka has discipline. For me he is more like an exceptional European player like the Roberto Baggios, Del Pieros etc Neymar is a true Brazilian, the skills, the creativity etc but also the erratic behaviour
@dhaanushl6465
@dhaanushl6465 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar scored more International Goals than R9 and will score more International Goals than Pele but he is not compared to R9 or Pele is because he hasn't won World Cup like those 2 Players.
@znhait
@znhait 2 жыл бұрын
He hasn’t been compared to them because he’s not better. Pele is miles better, and Ronaldo is much better. And they performed when it mattered the most.
@septimooo
@septimooo 2 жыл бұрын
@@znhait pele played in santos his whole life and is only known for his world cups
@antonyswift6932
@antonyswift6932 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar isn't even close to these 2 legends R9 in his prime no better striker in history explosive clinical injuries killed him neymar isn't close to romario never mind pele or R9
@sreenjoychatterjee82
@sreenjoychatterjee82 2 жыл бұрын
@@antonyswift6932 neymar have better ucl stats than r9, he will also have more career goals than r9 , pele will always be Brazils greatest but if neymar won world Cup with Brazil he will be ahed of r9, kaka, ronaldinho because he already have stats to difend him
@ruddock7
@ruddock7 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreenjoychatterjee82 You must be one of the very few who thinks Neymar is even in the same galaxy as R9. The only thing he does better are free kicks but in every other department R9 destroys him as a footballer!!
@rhonnienkalubo
@rhonnienkalubo 2 жыл бұрын
Show Kaka some respect.
@sunsetrider45
@sunsetrider45 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka was great consistently. Neymar has a great game here and there but is a complete failure in important games and has no consistency.
@jonnys4167
@jonnys4167 2 жыл бұрын
How are we even comparing kaka with Neymar.. not even on the same level. Kaka is legend
@Godplayzdice
@Godplayzdice 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka has 2 good seasons. Neymar is better.
@ChauncyCharm
@ChauncyCharm 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka is same level as Neymar.
@kleadfusha8338
@kleadfusha8338 2 жыл бұрын
@@Godplayzdice well, first of all the question is asking who was best in their prime. And that's without any shadow of doubt Kaka. Second, Kaka still had a better career despite not having Messi and Ronaldo's longevity.
@corysimpson7531
@corysimpson7531 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar been just as good as him if not better
@mrfacts6860
@mrfacts6860 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka is a gq model that's it 😜😜😜legend my foot
@sgh9114
@sgh9114 2 жыл бұрын
Man Kaka's runs though...literally fly past half the team from the half way line and score or beautiful assist....
@IceMoonie
@IceMoonie 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t see much of Zidane, but Kaka in his prime was the best player I ever watched not named Messi or Ronaldo
@AAlani-uz4gm
@AAlani-uz4gm 2 жыл бұрын
if it wasn't for injuries Kaka would've competed for few more years with Messi and Ronald for Ballon D'or maybe till through 2013-14.
@stephenboud1711
@stephenboud1711 2 жыл бұрын
I actually searched Ale the footballer before watching just to know how good he was then I realised haha
@arsene4440
@arsene4440 2 жыл бұрын
These guys are delusional. Prime kaka was a monster. Scored 3 goals against Manchester united
@CJVP99
@CJVP99 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka won FIFA POTY and Ballon D’Or Enough said Kaka wins
@joerents7902
@joerents7902 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka hands down. Neymar is mostly hype little substance.
@alexalexalex797
@alexalexalex797 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing he has other than “hype” is diving
@rwac07
@rwac07 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar gets overlooked quite often because of the hate towards him, he also didn't have the luxury of playing in an all star Brazilian team
@tharcisse7103
@tharcisse7103 2 жыл бұрын
He may not have had the attacking resources of old Brazilian sides, but he's DEFINITELY had better defensive and midfield resources than Kaká had. Neymar has had Alisson, Ederson, Dani Alves, Thiago Silva, Maquinhos, Miranda, David Luiz, Dante, Marcelo, Felipe Luis, Fabinho, Fernandinho, Casemiro, Coutinho, Willian... all he really had to do was bear the attacking weight like other great players have and let the rest of the team defend. Similar to what Argentina do with Messi, Portugal did with Ronaldo or France do with Mbappé. However, Neymar never had the ability to carry a team the way other greats can. If you build a defensive system and let Neymar be the protagonist/leader/genius in attack, you won't win any tournaments.
@tharanidharan7610
@tharanidharan7610 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Kaka and Neymar play in different positions. If we are talking about impact Kaka is the best out of the two.
@chumpter4756
@chumpter4756 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka easily Would be crazy if Neymar kept up his potential
@juanandrade9859
@juanandrade9859 2 жыл бұрын
Now this was a great episode
@YoogiNation
@YoogiNation 2 жыл бұрын
I never get the sense Neymar could lead a team to any major trophy. He benefited playing with Messi and Suarez cuz he didn’t have to be the guy. When he had to be the guy, he proved to fold. Kaka was the man among so many strong characters in Milan.
@marianchicago4002
@marianchicago4002 2 жыл бұрын
Different positions, different styles, different systems and different work ethic’s on the field, while Neymar fits modern winger to a T, it would be hard to pass on prime Kaka
@troyburton3525
@troyburton3525 2 жыл бұрын
Kmt u just saying because u love neymar but he have nothing on kaka he's a Brazilian flap
@onlyforyou651
@onlyforyou651 2 жыл бұрын
Milan Kaka was untouchable
@nabilmmstc0781
@nabilmmstc0781 2 жыл бұрын
AC Milan kaka was a beast...
@david-ct3ek
@david-ct3ek 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka without a doubt , Neymar never lived up to his expectations
@dsford880
@dsford880 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the laughs boys. Great show as always.
@dcaved
@dcaved 2 жыл бұрын
Frank's laughter is just infectious 😂😂
@elialvah
@elialvah 2 жыл бұрын
Oh y’all must’ve forgot. Kaká at his peak was indisputably the best player in the world. Neymar at his peak has never sniffed that honor. Neymar has never had a Champions League contender built around him. Kaká had one the finest Champions League sides built around him. Neymar doesn’t have a single memorable stellar Champions League performance against another contender. Kaká single handedly eviscerated a fine Alex Ferguson coached Manchester United side. It’s not even close.
@rohithraman6488
@rohithraman6488 2 жыл бұрын
What about his performance against PSG in the 6-1 game?
@sreenjoychatterjee82
@sreenjoychatterjee82 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar never goat players like r9, Ronnie, rivaldo (prime) at his side, but kaka have them and won world Cup 2002 with 0 contribution Neymar have the best ucl stats as a Brazilian even after dozen of injuries but kaks didn't bhave Neymar won one fifa puskas award, kaka won 0, but still people says kaka scored some unforgettable goals It's not even close, right mate???
@bobby5634
@bobby5634 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka had that touch of class!
@SacstateCKI
@SacstateCKI 2 жыл бұрын
this is insulting. Kaka is a legend, among the greats to ever play. neymar is very good but nowhere close
@luca99191
@luca99191 2 жыл бұрын
Whag
@livercoolutd
@livercoolutd 2 жыл бұрын
I just like the way Frank laughs. It is unintentionally funny.
@antonyswift6932
@antonyswift6932 2 жыл бұрын
There completely different players but Kaka had much more of an impact in his career than neymar an that's not even a debate neymar for all his ability has massively under achieved
@carlbannerman-quist6599
@carlbannerman-quist6599 2 жыл бұрын
Ale's "Mummy" quote is the best thing ever lmaooo
@arjitjere1559
@arjitjere1559 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka in his prime was THE best in his position, neymar was ONE of the best . Big difference
@user-lj1mt1cr2e
@user-lj1mt1cr2e 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar also peaked at a time where both Messi and Ronaldo were still in their peaks. It's hard to be the best when you have Messi right there.
@HA-ug4qu
@HA-ug4qu 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-lj1mt1cr2e kaka won in a time where both messi and cr7 were playing
@Galvanicjaguar2
@Galvanicjaguar2 2 жыл бұрын
@@HA-ug4qu kaka won it when messi and cristiano were young, neymar started to perform well when messi and cristiano were on their peaks.
@FCB_818
@FCB_818 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a tough one two different styles of play.
@aheadofahead9797
@aheadofahead9797 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka in Milan is what made me like football
@kurtchester7073
@kurtchester7073 2 жыл бұрын
Even Cr7 was starstrucked by Kaka, who are we, Kaka was as elegant as they come. Neymar the most fun player to watch in highlights and many a times the whole game.
@seersoftimez
@seersoftimez 2 жыл бұрын
3:41 Frank's iconic laughter 😂🤣
@rollsreus3862
@rollsreus3862 2 жыл бұрын
10:09 they had me dead when the cameraman immediately cut to robbo with that question
@hannibalking85
@hannibalking85 2 жыл бұрын
Vlahovic has 22 goals in domestic league and champions league, Haaland 19, Ronaldo has 18 and most of them decisive goals, yes in decline but still one of the best in the world
@zinan2959
@zinan2959 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen someone not win any elite individual trophy and be compared to so many all timers the way Neymar has. Seen him compared to Ronaldinho Zidane Ronaldo Nazrio and now Kaka. All players are superior to him and Kaka in his prime is probably top 10 best players we’ve ever seen
@sreenjoychatterjee82
@sreenjoychatterjee82 2 жыл бұрын
Those players whom you mentioned, got allstar teammates around their intl side, neymar never got but he still managed to produce better numbers, so he simply has got more individual brilliance than all of them
@sreenjoychatterjee82
@sreenjoychatterjee82 2 жыл бұрын
And individual awards, do they really matters???? So in your opinion pele and maradona was average palyers, right?? 😂😂😂😂😂
@mrtriger4945
@mrtriger4945 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar is 6 goals away from breaking pele's record and becoming the highest goalscorer in brazil history and he's only 30
@detta2148
@detta2148 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreenjoychatterjee82 don't be stupid, Neymar can't ever lace R9 boots when it comes on to individual brilliance. Please don't do that kid
@sreenjoychatterjee82
@sreenjoychatterjee82 2 жыл бұрын
@@detta2148 what ?? Can't lace r9's shoes, you need to shut your freaking mouth, you are insulting a man who have 41 ucl goals and 31 ucl assist which is highest by a Brazilian, that man also won ucl , tell me how many ucl's r9 won?? 0 right?? And you are telling me ge can't lace r9's shoes?? Think twice before typing world on your mobile keyboard
@sebastiantorres8691
@sebastiantorres8691 2 жыл бұрын
overall career easily Neymar. but best year vs best year I'd give the edge to Kaka. He was simply the best player in the world while Neymar's best year he was the third best player in the world. He was competing vs Messi and CR7 which Kaka had the luck of not being in the same era as. Tough one and very close.
@Udai_taxim
@Udai_taxim 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka beat out Cr7 and Messi for Balon D'or although those 2 were still crazy young and not only that he was a still a standout on what I would say was a golden era of football. So no overall career is not easily Neymar but I'm guessing youre young and didnt grow up watching Kaka
@whitewolf1289
@whitewolf1289 2 жыл бұрын
kaka won balon d'Or against both of those players. the way i see it it's other way around people like messi are fortunate that they didn't have to play against legendary defenders like maldini nesta baresi etc etc
@sebastiantorres8691
@sebastiantorres8691 2 жыл бұрын
@@whitewolf1289 yea when they were both in their late teens hahaha.
@Pulsedriver93
@Pulsedriver93 2 жыл бұрын
The last World Cup's (2018 & 2014) were Neymar's best chance to shine. I remember when they said he would be the next Pele or Ronaldo but he never hit top form. Kaka actually reached stardom in 2005 Confederation's Cup and his early days at Milan capturing Ballon D'Or. Sorry Neymar but Kaka is the clear winner.
@Udai_taxim
@Udai_taxim 2 жыл бұрын
2014 World Cup i'd say was unfair for Neymar after that injury against Columbia so I wouldn't be too harsh on him for that but yeah gotta go with Kaka
@brandonadcock
@brandonadcock 2 жыл бұрын
And Kaka only played 1 game that world cup win. He didn't do anything to contribute to Brazil. No goals, no assists, no starts. Doesn't count. Brazil was going to win the world cup if Neymar didn't get injured. And he was doing it single handedly.
@jorgeacevedo2872
@jorgeacevedo2872 2 жыл бұрын
100 % with Robo about the Neymar and Kaka comparison
@JustKamiTM
@JustKamiTM 2 жыл бұрын
kaka all day every day, just too good childhood hero along with dinho
@mirzasohailali7065
@mirzasohailali7065 2 жыл бұрын
They are speaking about the potential of what Neymar could have been. Neymar's prime however is not even close to Kaka's prime. Kaka was a monster and did everything so much ease. So Kaka any day over Neymar.
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka or Neymar is a genuinely difficult question. Both were elite in their prime. Both made devastatingly poor transfer decisions (PSG and Real Madrid). Both suffered severe injuries. It is pretty difficult compare who was better though given that they were different players in different positions. Kaka was brilliant and his assist for Crespo in the 2005 UCL final is probably my favourite assist of all time. With his first touch he turns past (I think) Gerrard, then releases a beautiful curved through ball beating the stretched defender. Crespo's finish was brilliant as well. However, I probably have to give it to Neymar. Neymar between 2015 and 2017 was a different beast. In 2016 season he and Suarez ran the show whilst Messi was injured. Messi picked up an early season injury against Las Palmas and Neymar and Suarez both stepped up. Neymar scored an absolute worldie against Villarreal, had a phenomenal performance against Bayer Leverkusen and then he and Suarez dispatched Real Madrid 4-0 at the Bernabeu, with Messi being subbed on in the second half. In 2017 Neymar was great also. Things started to fall apart for Barcelona that season, causing Lucho to decide to leave, and people forget because they remember La Remontada against PSG and the last minute winner in El Clasico. Neymar was a shining beacon in what was otherwise a disappointing season. He practically put Barcelona on his shoulders in the Remontada. He is the one who won the penalty (scored it too), scored the free-kick and assisted the winner for Sergi Roberto. I'd say that Neymar was probably the best player in the world during that match, briefly surpassing Messi who was relatively quiet in that match against PSG.
@joshuaguevara1309
@joshuaguevara1309 2 жыл бұрын
And yet Messi had more goals and assists than Neymar in 15/16, 16/17 , 17/18….. don’t even let me bring up Suarez who won the European golden boot. Kaka didn’t have that 🤷🏽‍♂️
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaguevara1309 Messi is the greatest player of all time, that's kind of a nothing statement, and Suarez hit his prime in 2016 outscoring both Messi and Ronaldo.
@joshuaguevara1309
@joshuaguevara1309 2 жыл бұрын
@@economicerudite4924 how is it a nothing statement? Those were Neymar’s teammates in the attack during his prime. Of course he will look better. Kaka was a cam and he wasn’t feeding the “greatest player of all time” and someone who outscored “the greatest of all time “
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaguevara1309 I thought you were suggesting the fact that Messi outscored Neymar meant Neymar wasn't good. My bad. Yes, Neymar had better teammates and that is a big factor. Let's not entirely discount Dida, Cafu, Maldini, Nesta, Pirlo, Seedorf, Shevchenko, Crespo, Gattuso and Ronaldo though.
@joshuaguevara1309
@joshuaguevara1309 2 жыл бұрын
@@economicerudite4924 almost all those players you brought up played behind him (since you named defenders and midfielders) I didn’t bring up Barcas whole team because I just wanted to highlight the attack line. I saw you commented that kaka was never a 1 g/a per game player but ac Milan was much more defensive in comparison to Barca , and again he didn’t have Suarez and Messi in the attack with him. R9 scored 9 goals in 2 seasons hardly a great attack partner. Crespo was already with inter by 08/09 was on loan the seasons prior to them . So he was gone by kakas prime. Schevchenko also was already at Chelsea for kakas prime
@tylerspaz
@tylerspaz 2 жыл бұрын
The hair question had me dying😂😂😂😂😂
@ThisAinThatMetro
@ThisAinThatMetro 2 жыл бұрын
Frank has a Voldemort going on front bald back hair lol for tv purposes.
@zepar6076
@zepar6076 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar without a doubt. If you cast aside nostalgia like many of us have.
@jponz85
@jponz85 2 жыл бұрын
Won world cup, won ballon d or... neymar? Olympics? Lmao tfoh
@HowTo-ck2lb
@HowTo-ck2lb 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka won champions league by himself
@shahabuddin2802
@shahabuddin2802 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar is better than Kaka at literally every attribute of football.. Idiots who are saying Kaka just cause he won the WC are forgetting that he was playing alongside the likes of Ronaldinho, Rivaldo and R9 all three of whom were way better than Kaka.
@jl2262
@jl2262 2 жыл бұрын
@@shahabuddin2802 Romario wasn't there dude, and Neymar would not make that starting 11. Also, saying that Neymar is better than Kaka on every attribute shows a ridiculous level of bias. Neymar really beats Kaka on pace? Passing quality? Utter nonsense.
@shahabuddin2802
@shahabuddin2802 2 жыл бұрын
@@jl2262 I meant Rivaldo.. If you are bringing pace into the conversation, then you must also bring attributes like agility/balance/accelaration and Neymar is better att all of them... And yes, Neymar and Kaka are comparable at passing. Have you ever seen Neymar play since he moved to PSG? He is one of the highest chance creating players in the world. His vision is amazing.
@armandom9870
@armandom9870 2 жыл бұрын
3:42 franks laugh 😂😂
@zanta2290
@zanta2290 2 жыл бұрын
this show to funny mannN.. dangggg.. love this show
@johneefizterbottom
@johneefizterbottom 2 жыл бұрын
I love this show
@rrvisions-rickyruthejew
@rrvisions-rickyruthejew Жыл бұрын
10:50 Robbo burns Frank mocking his baldness with a beard BWAHAHA... That's bald on bald crime...
@whitewolf1289
@whitewolf1289 2 жыл бұрын
thing is these neymar fans didn't watch football back in 2000s. these people probably were too young back in 2003 when kaka joined Milan. in his first year Ancelotti started to bench maestro rui costa in favour of kaka. thing is after watching both kaka & neymar difference is neymar looks pretty on the ball and people fell for it & kaka as Ancelotti said in his interview kaka was much more effective didnt waste time showing off he wasn't holding the ball too much the ball as it could cost u an opening of u r holding the ball for extra 2 seconds, his intelligence on the field was superb he knew when to release the ball, superb vision of the play, vertical dribbling without wasting time. speed acceleration in tight space breaking opponents defence in the middle. shooting. Ancelotti said playing kaka on his team was a cheat code as he was a threat for 120min. Ancelotti played kaka even as striker becoz of his insane acceleration & speed & shooting. as for neymar apart from showing off of the ball he has very little going for him he was never as fast as kaka even when he was in his prime and hold the ball too much just like his early days as a result a lot of time it costs "tempo di gioco" meaning there was an opening for a key pass but since neymar hold the ball for extra 2 seconds opponent's defence was able to close that space so that opening is gone so he isn't being as effective as kaka on this aspect and he still isn't improving on this. basically neymar never had that same effectiveness , if i was about to list everytime neymar s holding the ball costing an opening i could write a book
@mattlyons4948
@mattlyons4948 Жыл бұрын
Frank lebouf, is simply hilarious. Makes these videos great
@femmiephemmyr4338
@femmiephemmyr4338 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka all day, world cup winner , championsleague winner, best player in the world in his prime ahead of Messi and Ronaldo. I totally disagree with the guys.
@economicerudite4924
@economicerudite4924 2 жыл бұрын
I don't buy the 'best player in his prime ahead of Messi and Ronaldo' argument considering Ronaldo was a kid at United and Messi broke through in 2008, being an injury prone teenager who couldn't get regular starts prior to that.
@ursula3438
@ursula3438 2 жыл бұрын
@@economicerudite4924 Ronaldo was a beast since 2004. You're right on the young Messi being injury prone part though.
@jaymars_comics507
@jaymars_comics507 2 жыл бұрын
@@ursula3438 hahaha...what did he do from 04 to 07???...........!!!!!???????
@whitewolf1289
@whitewolf1289 2 жыл бұрын
@@economicerudite4924 nonsense
@ryanhayes7461
@ryanhayes7461 2 жыл бұрын
The last question was genuinely a violation 😂😂😂😂
@hischransen8069
@hischransen8069 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka: Worldclass Player Neymar: Worldclass Diver
@hrt-gaming4920
@hrt-gaming4920 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka, without question.
@ac14cmpunk25
@ac14cmpunk25 2 жыл бұрын
clearly Ale was the best A true Legend of the Game
@PharmacyAve
@PharmacyAve 2 жыл бұрын
Kaka was amazing that AC Milan side was Galactico
@jamesjustice21
@jamesjustice21 2 жыл бұрын
More of the bald brothers duo, Robbo and Frank, please
@EpicGammingCrew
@EpicGammingCrew 2 жыл бұрын
Frank dancing his apologies >>>
@iPhone99G
@iPhone99G 2 жыл бұрын
Frank is our man!!! 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
@hulk8384
@hulk8384 2 жыл бұрын
Neymar was just something else. He was the best in his prime imo.
@bandywallop
@bandywallop 2 жыл бұрын
At diving and rolling perhaps
@hulk8384
@hulk8384 2 жыл бұрын
@@bandywallop yeah, cry more
@DavidsAyala
@DavidsAyala 2 жыл бұрын
KAKA, do gazelle do brasil, was a master, its no way these other two guys with all the respect be on the same podium
@alisar6686
@alisar6686 2 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think that Ale and leboeuf are two goofballs.
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