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It's obvious, Borodin uses that theme

Borodin heard a friend playing the Bach and took the fugue subject in a different direction, basing this entire sonata on it. Borodin based the Allegro of the first movement of his Quartet No. 1 in A-major on a snippet from Beethoven's "Emperor" Piano Concerto, said snippet buried a bit deeper in the movement than the bit of Bach fugue you recognized here. There is a video of a live performance of the A-major quartet by an Australian ensemble that is truly first-rate, as well as a performance with the scrolling score. If you have a bit more than a half-hour to spend, either or both of those vids would be time well-spent.

Where?

Michael Goldstein is notorious for his musical fakes. There is no edition of the piece that reveals what is by Borodin and what is by Goldstein. Until there is, I don't believe in Borodin. But if it is a fake, then it is a very good one. For comparison, you can listen to Goldstein's "Balakirev" (Impromptus for violin and piano) and you can believe that he composed the complete sonata himself.

Listen to his string quartets. The second is pretty good, but the first is nothing short of a masterpiece. Also, his symphonies were highly regarded by Franz Liszt among others. And while listening to the symphonies, also look up the performance of the Scherzo in D-major, played by the Vendradis quartet, available elsewhere on KZfaq. Also, Google the Borodin-Hunsdecker reaction (Yeah, same guy).

The second theme section of the first movement could be a cousin of the Rachmaninov cello sonata

Oh, I've never heard of Rachmaninoff's cello sonatas. Which one are you talking about? Could you please give me a link?

@@user-sp1te9mv7d He only wrote one, in G minor, around the same time as the famous second piano concerto. There are loads of recordings. Just type Rachmaninov cello Sonata into KZfaq.

@@Leea25, thank you so much! Thank you for patiently answering, and not sending me on a long erotic journey right away;) I will definitely listen to it. I am unlikely to be disappointed, because I adore Rachmaninoff in all his manifestations😊

@@user-sp1te9mv7d Enjoy! It is a wonderful piece.

The theme is literally from the fugue of bach g minor violin sonata

@@smhmyhead8017 Thanks! Didn't know that. Btw smh means shake my head so your name means shake my head my head, not sure if that was an accident or not.

@@benthepen3336 yeah I did it on purpose, it's just a stupid name

Agreed on the A-major Quartet. I would rate Borodin's first quartet as equal or superior to those of Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Shostakovich, Mendelssohn.... Borodin references Haydn and Beethoven in the first movement of the A-major quartet and manages to weave a fugue out of the Beethoven theme that Bach might have envied, the second movement foreshadows some of Shostakovich's eighth quartet, the third movement could have been Mendlssohn's featherstitching, and the finale was the exclamation point on Borodin's chamber masterpiece.

the Robert Shaw recording is on KZfaq. There is already a score video of the 8th with Solti. Let me think about it.

Is it really? I could only find 13 minutes of the recording, the finale, but not the whole thing. Thank you so much for considering. 🤗🎶

That's what this piece was based on

@@JoshuaSobel Well, that explains it then!

nkoda, but unfortunately for a fee

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@@bartjebartmans, sure, sir. I'm sincerely sorry

We say "Mighty Handful" in English, but "the Five" is also used and understood.

@@mallorybesom1717, no doubt, but I'm russian-speaking user, so we have the only "Mighty handful" name. My English is too awful for your eyes, sorry😁

Makes you wonder why Goldstein didn't use his obvious talent for composing and imitating, fooling experts, just like Han van Meegeren faking Vermeer, to write his own music.

@@bartjebartmans I would assume the following: From what I know, he wrote the "Symphony No. 21 by Nikolai Ovsyanniko-Kulikovsky" because he was antisemitically criticised for using Ukrainian themes in his own compositions because, as a Jew, he had no connection to the soul of these songs. In response, he wrote this symphony and passed it off as the first Ukrainian symphony in music history, composed in 1809 - which the Soviet music world fell for. As far as Borodin is concerned, I know nothing more. What is clear is that Soviet society was very anti-Semitic, especially after 1945, which ruined many Jewish composers. Perhaps Goldstein only felt complete artistic freedom in writing such hoaxes.

@@derphysiker1774 Makes total sense. In a strange way van Meegeren had something in common with Goldstein. Van Meegeren attempted to make a career as an artist, but art critics dismissed his work. He decided to prove his talent by forging paintings from the Dutch Golden Age. Leading experts of the time accepted his paintings as genuine 17th-century works, including Dr Abraham Bredius. He became a national hero after World War II when it was revealed that he had sold a forged Vermeer painting to Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring during the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands.

@@bartjebartmans Quite a good comparison! Nevertheless, van Meegeren said: ,,My triumph as a forger was my failure as a creative artist." I'm not sure if Goldstein would have said that.

bwv 1001

@@leonhardeuler6811 oui également

@@demandols8555 j'ai pris des cours de francais pour 3 ans (lycee), et je ne sais pas quoi "egalement" signifcar. How was my french lol?

@@leonhardeuler6811 oups i didnt knew that you werent french, im really sorry. I forgot that fugue is the same Word in french and english. I wanted to say that bwv539 and bwv 1001 are the same, the fugue has some differences because bwv539 is an adaptation for organ.

@@demandols8555 Inutile de s'excuser. Mon francais, est-ce bien? Je n'utilse pas "google translate". Aussi, je prefere bwv 1001, le fugue est plus adapte pour violon que piano.

Keith Foester -- Yes they did! Each household had their own musical repertory....one to accompany Swill...another for Gruel. Serfdom had moments of great joy!

You are kidding right? It obviously inspired Borodin otherwise you wouldn't be able to comment on it. Reality check.

Borodin was a genius, he composed a whole sonata inspired by just a few bars of BWV 1001…

@@dLP1917 Doesn't a genius compose a whole sonata based on their own personal melodies? Wasn't Bach a genius, or should Bach have written his violin sonata based on someone else's melodies for it to be considered genius?

Lots of famous masterworks of the classical music was inspired by popular music, actually.

Composers used each other melodies, themes and phrases all the time. It was common practice. Nobody thought anything of it and at times it was even seen as an honor.