sounds exactly like the Bach fugue from the solo violin sonata no. 1 lol
@bartjebartmans3 жыл бұрын
See info under video.
@elchatismiquin64453 жыл бұрын
It's obvious, Borodin uses that theme
@5610winston2 жыл бұрын
Borodin heard a friend playing the Bach and took the fugue subject in a different direction, basing this entire sonata on it. Borodin based the Allegro of the first movement of his Quartet No. 1 in A-major on a snippet from Beethoven's "Emperor" Piano Concerto, said snippet buried a bit deeper in the movement than the bit of Bach fugue you recognized here. There is a video of a live performance of the A-major quartet by an Australian ensemble that is truly first-rate, as well as a performance with the scrolling score. If you have a bit more than a half-hour to spend, either or both of those vids would be time well-spent.
@IEEMAZ_Convoluted_14.2.8.5 Жыл бұрын
Where?
@keithfoester73263 жыл бұрын
we are truly blessed to be able to access music like this with such ease. my appreciation.
@SebasLoopchelo3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think Borodin wrote a cello sonata. beautiful sonata!
@JakeTheCellist3 жыл бұрын
Interesting tidbit: this wasn’t published until the 1980s, because it had only survived in an incomplete version. A musicologist by the name of Goldstein completed and pieced together the work. It’s uncertain how much Goldstein wrote himself, but it is a beautiful work regardless!
@christianebbertz70576 ай бұрын
Michael Goldstein is notorious for his musical fakes. There is no edition of the piece that reveals what is by Borodin and what is by Goldstein. Until there is, I don't believe in Borodin. But if it is a fake, then it is a very good one. For comparison, you can listen to Goldstein's "Balakirev" (Impromptus for violin and piano) and you can believe that he composed the complete sonata himself.
@ugrasdurmus87043 жыл бұрын
very cute :) Borodin used the J. S. Bach's theme (BWV 1001 Violin Sonata/Fuga) as an main element in the 1st movement.. It is a very nice postmodern approach.. He apparently did not try to hide but using that as main building block, and even polyphonic texture as Bach did ... great job
@notaire23 жыл бұрын
Wunderschöne und lyrische Interpretation dieses romantischen und ein bisschen ethnisch komponierten Sonate im veränderlichen Tempo mit mildem doch gut phrasiertem Ton des genialen Violoncellos und klar artikuliertem doch zugleich anmutigem Klang des ebenso genialen Klaviers. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders lyrisch und auch nostalgisch. Der intime und perfekt entsprechende Dialog zwischen den beiden Virtuosen ist wahrlich ergreifend. Einfach wundebar!
@user-sp1te9mv7d3 жыл бұрын
Oh, how fresh and tender sonata!.. I knew Borodin only as the author of "Prince Igor", the stronger my admiration is now
@5610winston2 жыл бұрын
Listen to his string quartets. The second is pretty good, but the first is nothing short of a masterpiece. Also, his symphonies were highly regarded by Franz Liszt among others. And while listening to the symphonies, also look up the performance of the Scherzo in D-major, played by the Vendradis quartet, available elsewhere on KZfaq. Also, Google the Borodin-Hunsdecker reaction (Yeah, same guy).
@bossfighter83223 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this wonderful piece! Keep up the great work
@robertbairdmusic3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard this! Wonderful wonderful music - thank you for sharing!
@Leea253 жыл бұрын
What an utterly wonderful Sonata. As a cellist and lover of Russian music, how did this pass me by!? I wonder if Rachmaninov knew this sonata? There are several moments that remind me a little of his much more famous sonata. Thank you for uploading.
@bloovelvet3 жыл бұрын
The second theme section of the first movement could be a cousin of the Rachmaninov cello sonata
@user-sp1te9mv7d2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I've never heard of Rachmaninoff's cello sonatas. Which one are you talking about? Could you please give me a link?
@Leea252 жыл бұрын
@@user-sp1te9mv7d He only wrote one, in G minor, around the same time as the famous second piano concerto. There are loads of recordings. Just type Rachmaninov cello Sonata into KZfaq.
@user-sp1te9mv7d2 жыл бұрын
@@Leea25, thank you so much! Thank you for patiently answering, and not sending me on a long erotic journey right away;) I will definitely listen to it. I am unlikely to be disappointed, because I adore Rachmaninoff in all his manifestations😊
@Leea252 жыл бұрын
@@user-sp1te9mv7d Enjoy! It is a wonderful piece.
@Mikhail_Rogov Жыл бұрын
Блестящее исполнение! Огромное вам спасибо!
@ianw19763 жыл бұрын
r/PieceoftheDay featured this piece today, September 6th 2021.
@snowcarriagechengcheng-hun34543 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading!
@mmbmbmbmb3 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful ~ thank you!
@DavesMathVideos3 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing composition. Even more amazing is that in his own day Borodin was better known as a doctor and chemist than a composer.
@JakeTheCellist3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful performance!!
@TobyHonest4203 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot, this is so good
@benthepen33363 жыл бұрын
Gives me some Baroque Vibes at some points. Really great.
@smhmyhead80173 жыл бұрын
The theme is literally from the fugue of bach g minor violin sonata
@benthepen33363 жыл бұрын
@@smhmyhead8017 Thanks! Didn't know that. Btw smh means shake my head so your name means shake my head my head, not sure if that was an accident or not.
@smhmyhead80173 жыл бұрын
@@benthepen3336 yeah I did it on purpose, it's just a stupid name
@juliyabelyanevich70663 жыл бұрын
I made top 80 😁. Grate job, and Borodin is my favorit composer for chamber music. Love his both string quartets, however the 2-d became more popular due to its 2-d mov. Nocturne. But the 1-st string quartet is beating its follower due to all 4 movements are evenly filigree .
@5610winston2 жыл бұрын
Agreed on the A-major Quartet. I would rate Borodin's first quartet as equal or superior to those of Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Shostakovich, Mendelssohn.... Borodin references Haydn and Beethoven in the first movement of the A-major quartet and manages to weave a fugue out of the Beethoven theme that Bach might have envied, the second movement foreshadows some of Shostakovich's eighth quartet, the third movement could have been Mendlssohn's featherstitching, and the finale was the exclamation point on Borodin's chamber masterpiece.
@danielliu263 жыл бұрын
7:41 I was listening to this in the background and was quite surprised when I thought I heard Borodin’s 2nd symphony, but it seems like it’s just a self-quotation of sorts haha
@hosseinjavidiniroomand3 жыл бұрын
excellent, this video is fantastic for me as a composer (my pieces are presented in my new channel), thank you very much❤☘🌱🌿🙏
@user-rs4st1jg8r3 жыл бұрын
こんなカッコいい曲を書いてたなんて知らなかった…
@andreafilidei30713 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍
@alejandrohp992 жыл бұрын
I am currently working on Telemann’s Gamba Sonata in A minor 46:a6 and it’s surprising for me to find a lot of similarities on the motifs and ritmic patrons. I’m not a huge fan of Borodin, as I am more into Early Music. Does somebody knows if Telemann’s work had an influence on Borodin’s?
@jacobbump12823 жыл бұрын
This is great!! Thank you so much for providing great content. I have been hoping to contact you in regards to a video idea I would love for you to do in the near future....Do you think you could post the music to Mahler’s 8th symphony? I would love to follow the music to that one. Also, if you do, do you think you could use the Robert Shaw telarc recording of the 8th? I have always wanted to hear Robert Shaw’s version of the Mahler 8th. I would be so grateful. 🤗🎶
@bartjebartmans3 жыл бұрын
the Robert Shaw recording is on KZfaq. There is already a score video of the 8th with Solti. Let me think about it.
@jacobbump12823 жыл бұрын
Is it really? I could only find 13 minutes of the recording, the finale, but not the whole thing. Thank you so much for considering. 🤗🎶
@Zimzamzoom953 жыл бұрын
Sounds just like the epic solo violin fugue from the Bach sonata in g minor
@JoshuaSobel3 жыл бұрын
That's what this piece was based on
@Zimzamzoom953 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaSobel Well, that explains it then!
@randomstranger17822 жыл бұрын
Where did you find the sheet music for this?
@barbaraseres70192 жыл бұрын
nkoda, but unfortunately for a fee
@MrDiscoDragon Жыл бұрын
Do you have the sheet music for this I've been searching for a year to get them but they're only on sketchy website for a very high price😭
@jurigagarin57413 жыл бұрын
6:42
@user-sp1te9mv7d3 жыл бұрын
Dear Bartje, "The Five" group we call "Moguchaya kuchka" ("Mighty Bunch"?!? Hmmm, I don't think so) in Russia
@bartjebartmans3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that info under videos are not my personal opinions but in general taken from trusted sources.
@user-sp1te9mv7d3 жыл бұрын
@@bartjebartmans, sure, sir. I'm sincerely sorry
@mallorybesom1717 Жыл бұрын
We say "Mighty Handful" in English, but "the Five" is also used and understood.
@user-sp1te9mv7d Жыл бұрын
@@mallorybesom1717, no doubt, but I'm russian-speaking user, so we have the only "Mighty handful" name. My English is too awful for your eyes, sorry😁
@sizosazinusstigmapsipsi Жыл бұрын
first notes are like a bach's g minor violin fugue
@derphysiker17747 ай бұрын
Personally, I think this work is a hoax - Mikhail Goldstein, who only claims to have completed this work by Borodin, has presented a number of fake works to the public, such as an "Impromptu" by Balakirev or an album leaf by Glazunov - not to mention the "Symphony No. 21 by Nikolai Ovsyanniko-Kulikovsky". Nonetheless, a beautiful work.
@bartjebartmans7 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder why Goldstein didn't use his obvious talent for composing and imitating, fooling experts, just like Han van Meegeren faking Vermeer, to write his own music.
@derphysiker17747 ай бұрын
@@bartjebartmans I would assume the following: From what I know, he wrote the "Symphony No. 21 by Nikolai Ovsyanniko-Kulikovsky" because he was antisemitically criticised for using Ukrainian themes in his own compositions because, as a Jew, he had no connection to the soul of these songs. In response, he wrote this symphony and passed it off as the first Ukrainian symphony in music history, composed in 1809 - which the Soviet music world fell for. As far as Borodin is concerned, I know nothing more. What is clear is that Soviet society was very anti-Semitic, especially after 1945, which ruined many Jewish composers. Perhaps Goldstein only felt complete artistic freedom in writing such hoaxes.
@bartjebartmans7 ай бұрын
@@derphysiker1774 Makes total sense. In a strange way van Meegeren had something in common with Goldstein. Van Meegeren attempted to make a career as an artist, but art critics dismissed his work. He decided to prove his talent by forging paintings from the Dutch Golden Age. Leading experts of the time accepted his paintings as genuine 17th-century works, including Dr Abraham Bredius. He became a national hero after World War II when it was revealed that he had sold a forged Vermeer painting to Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring during the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands.
@derphysiker17747 ай бұрын
@@bartjebartmans Quite a good comparison! Nevertheless, van Meegeren said: ,,My triumph as a forger was my failure as a creative artist." I'm not sure if Goldstein would have said that.
@giggi07g3 жыл бұрын
Where I can find the partition of this composition?
@demandols85553 жыл бұрын
Bwv539 fugue
@leonhardeuler68113 жыл бұрын
bwv 1001
@demandols85553 жыл бұрын
@@leonhardeuler6811 oui également
@leonhardeuler68113 жыл бұрын
@@demandols8555 j'ai pris des cours de francais pour 3 ans (lycee), et je ne sais pas quoi "egalement" signifcar. How was my french lol?
@demandols85553 жыл бұрын
@@leonhardeuler6811 oups i didnt knew that you werent french, im really sorry. I forgot that fugue is the same Word in french and english. I wanted to say that bwv539 and bwv 1001 are the same, the fugue has some differences because bwv539 is an adaptation for organ.
@leonhardeuler68113 жыл бұрын
@@demandols8555 Inutile de s'excuser. Mon francais, est-ce bien? Je n'utilse pas "google translate". Aussi, je prefere bwv 1001, le fugue est plus adapte pour violon que piano.
@keithfoester73263 жыл бұрын
i wonder if the lower classes like the peasants ever hear this music in their time.
@steveegallo33843 жыл бұрын
Keith Foester -- Yes they did! Each household had their own musical repertory....one to accompany Swill...another for Gruel. Serfdom had moments of great joy!
@kallehed63303 жыл бұрын
Didn't like that he just used Bach's melody, feels kind of uninspiring. Still good composition though
@bartjebartmans3 жыл бұрын
You are kidding right? It obviously inspired Borodin otherwise you wouldn't be able to comment on it. Reality check.
@dLP19173 жыл бұрын
Borodin was a genius, he composed a whole sonata inspired by just a few bars of BWV 1001…
@kallehed63303 жыл бұрын
@@dLP1917 Doesn't a genius compose a whole sonata based on their own personal melodies? Wasn't Bach a genius, or should Bach have written his violin sonata based on someone else's melodies for it to be considered genius?
@dLP19173 жыл бұрын
Lots of famous masterworks of the classical music was inspired by popular music, actually.
@bartjebartmans3 жыл бұрын
Composers used each other melodies, themes and phrases all the time. It was common practice. Nobody thought anything of it and at times it was even seen as an honor.