Zed “kills” VSCode

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Alex Ziskind

Alex Ziskind

3 ай бұрын

Zed is touted as the new VSCode killer. I had to check it out for myself.
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@AZisk
@AZisk 2 ай бұрын
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@KristijanKL
@KristijanKL Ай бұрын
mac only
@rmdashrfv
@rmdashrfv 3 ай бұрын
I got laid off last week because I was coding too slow. Had I been using Zed, I could have closed more tickets 10-15ms faster. Dammit
@AZisk
@AZisk 3 ай бұрын
😆
@amjedbelgacem8218
@amjedbelgacem8218 3 ай бұрын
top notch humour hahahhahaha
@DK-ox7ze
@DK-ox7ze 3 ай бұрын
10ms per frame * millions of frames = hundreds of thousands of dollars lost in productivity 😅
@AZisk
@AZisk 3 ай бұрын
@@amjedbelgacem8218Humor is appreciated here
@saitaro
@saitaro 3 ай бұрын
​@@AZisk Typical German.
@damienbutt6320
@damienbutt6320 3 ай бұрын
It has a lot of potential. But it’s no way near feature complete enough to be considered a vscode killer. Yet.
@Patrickdaawsome
@Patrickdaawsome 3 ай бұрын
No way near feature complete is not true. It has like 90% of features needed.
@Ezkeef
@Ezkeef 3 ай бұрын
hey, does it have extension support and such? I use windows so I haven't used it yet@@Patrickdaawsome
@ludo534
@ludo534 3 ай бұрын
if there is no plugins then it is far from being usable
@BlackAsLight448
@BlackAsLight448 3 ай бұрын
@@Patrickdaawsome no. It's still missing many small details that it would need to consider killing vscode
@handsanitizer2457
@handsanitizer2457 3 ай бұрын
Wait until it gets plugins, and the speed may reduce as bloat is added
@codedusting
@codedusting 3 ай бұрын
Lmao. That 97ms to 58ms marketing is just marketing 101.
@alfiegordon9013
@alfiegordon9013 3 ай бұрын
The thing that gets me is thats still a HUGE delay. Assuming your screen is 60Hz thats nearly FOUR WHOLE FRAMES between keypress and it being rendered on screen. I dread to think how slow it looks on a 144hz monitor
@TomasRamoska
@TomasRamoska 3 ай бұрын
@@squishy-tomato They will have more time to enjoy slow MacOS UI animations 😅
@Dygear
@Dygear 3 ай бұрын
This is a far more interesting metric on a Raspberry Pi that is more resource limited. With VSCode living in that world, having Zed (Or COSMIC-Edit) running faster than the incumbent editor would make a palpable difference in programming experience on these small devices.
@TuxBoli
@TuxBoli 3 ай бұрын
Try zed vs vscode on a 4 year old Intel Mac and you will see this huge difference.
@__a8as
@__a8as 3 ай бұрын
zed is written is rust 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@fuzzy-02
@fuzzy-02 3 ай бұрын
No windows support yet. Like it or hate it, it still is the big fish in the pond. Zed should get to level 6 first to get their ult and then try killing vscode
@TheOllom1
@TheOllom1 3 ай бұрын
+rep for the analogy
@FlameSoulis
@FlameSoulis 3 ай бұрын
And no build for Linux? You know... the thing most people are connecting to and working on? So, just Mac users.... who are... not always doing dev work... Um... okay, Zed! You just pretend to be the cool kid.
@__a8as
@__a8as 3 ай бұрын
i trust microsoft more than some small team from zed, the benchmarks are fake, when you install extensions it even worse than vscode, vscode is nice, its smooth, and windows design is good, also widely used and recognized editor, what the he is even zed?😂 theay hopefully fixed scroll whcih was buggy, but they didn't fixed other issues , i checked the source code they use strange variable names and also dont follow guidelines from mister bob clean code architecture that's why their codesucks j! and willsuck ! they will never replace google code editor and vscode !❤
@williamou3005
@williamou3005 3 ай бұрын
I mean they could poke them down slowly by spamming Q (getting more extensions)... Zed is an artillery mage after all.
@armentorosyan8268
@armentorosyan8268 3 ай бұрын
Didn't expect a dota 2 reference here
@jon1867
@jon1867 3 ай бұрын
My opinion on zed is..... ( waits 2 years )
@ghfsd786fa
@ghfsd786fa 3 ай бұрын
The bad thing about Zed (for now) is that VSCode has a ton of extensions; yes Zed automatically integrates using LSP but that's pretty much it. But it's VERY promising.
@VivekYadav-ds8oz
@VivekYadav-ds8oz 3 ай бұрын
What makes it promising? It's for Mac, and as far as I can see, VSCode just runs like butter on Mac and prolly doesn't hog a big %age of RAM too.
@user-nu1lb2qu2x
@user-nu1lb2qu2x 3 ай бұрын
@@VivekYadav-ds8oz Drains a lot of my battery tho, I still need to try Zed and see if there is some improvements
@FlanPoirot
@FlanPoirot 3 ай бұрын
​@@VivekYadav-ds8ozdoesn't what? VSCode bundles a whole browser, an OS compatibility layer (electron) and a language runtime just to run a text editor. that's as wasteful as it can be
@MindBlowerWTF
@MindBlowerWTF 3 ай бұрын
All of my extensions in VS Code that I use at work are to provide functionality that LSP and treesitter provide. Im fine with it just having LSP now.
@VivekYadav-ds8oz
@VivekYadav-ds8oz 3 ай бұрын
@@FlanPoirot That's more of a thing which I hate on principle. However, realistically, it doesn't take that much storage for something that's such a key component of your development cycle.
@ekkkkkknoes
@ekkkkkknoes 3 ай бұрын
It's nowhere near a vscode killer, being MacOS exclusive still.
@ric8ard
@ric8ard 3 ай бұрын
Zed's response times wil be fantastic for use in films where everyone 'programming a computer' seems like they're on speed.
@jorge1869
@jorge1869 3 ай бұрын
Taking the crown from VScode is very difficult, there is a lot of work behind it, it takes years to offer the developed benefits that it offers.
@loldoctor
@loldoctor 3 ай бұрын
The developers of Zed contributed a lot of that work, particularly with respect to Electron.
@perghosh8135
@perghosh8135 3 ай бұрын
Have you used VS or working with larger projects then Sublime Text is a lot faster VSCode is slow if projects are big
@Slukke
@Slukke 3 ай бұрын
?? visual studio code was never crowned to begin with. it's a garbage slow electron app that barely does anything you need it to do
@mishathassan6988
@mishathassan6988 3 ай бұрын
@@perghosh8135I mean when I work on a large codebase, I move to neovim. Vscode cant handle large projects and I don’t think thats a negative, because vscode could not add all the features it has plus be super easy to use with no learning curve if they also wanted to make it handle large projects better. Personally, I work on large projects maybe twice a year or even less than that, so vscode fits my requirements. And I think most developers and engineers fall in the same category. Plus I don’t think your point makes sense because no one who works on a large codebase uses vscode. Vscode never said that its large codebase friendly. Everyone knows its electron and can’t handle large projects.
@kirillvoloshin2065
@kirillvoloshin2065 3 ай бұрын
if they fix about 5 things, I would never go back to vscode
@shock9616
@shock9616 3 ай бұрын
I'm in a similar position: I'm not using Zed as my main editor for now, but I am keeping it installed and periodically checking things out as it gets updated. It has a lot of promise for me and I'm really looking forward to seeing where it goes in the future
@TomasRamoska
@TomasRamoska 3 ай бұрын
VSCode works on Windows, Mac, Linux, and Web browsers. With so many extensions like WSL, SSH, Docker, etc. With SSH extension I can view pictures and videos over SSH on my server and browse files like I'm working with Files Explorer or Finder on the local machine. Zed is not a VSCode killer 😂 I don't think they going to kill anyone anytime soon.
@ThoughtfullySo
@ThoughtfullySo 3 ай бұрын
I realize how valuable extensions are for VS Code. They're the only ones keeping me from moving to Zed.
@sivuyilemagutywa5286
@sivuyilemagutywa5286 3 ай бұрын
What code editor did they use to create Zed?
@Lewdiculous
@Lewdiculous 3 ай бұрын
Of course it was notepad.exe.
@shock9616
@shock9616 3 ай бұрын
They probably used vi
@whobitmyneck
@whobitmyneck 3 ай бұрын
Zed was built with Zed when Zed was stable enough
@DefaultYoutubeUserAccount
@DefaultYoutubeUserAccount 3 ай бұрын
@@whobitmyneckAnd before that?
@sivuyilemagutywa5286
@sivuyilemagutywa5286 3 ай бұрын
@@whobitmyneck hahaha it was a joke
@KalosLikesComputers
@KalosLikesComputers 3 ай бұрын
I think the problem here is that nobody is complaining that VSCode is slow - we use it for its convenience and its extensions. if you want a fast no-frills code editor like this, you're gonna use nano or neovim or Sublime, etc. Nobody asked for "VSCode but stripped down to the essentials and also slightly faster," so while Zed is getting a lot of coverage and that is good for competition, there is absolutely no reason to use it over VSCode.
@DynamicalisBlue
@DynamicalisBlue 2 ай бұрын
I am complaining about VS Code’s speed. It used to be fast when it came out but it has slowed down overtime. Sometimes it takes me seconds to open a file, which is annoying considering I use VS Code as a quick editor and not my main IDE. (I use Jetbrain’s tools for my main IDEs)
@openshores4288
@openshores4288 2 ай бұрын
​@@DynamicalisBlueyeah. Whats the point of ide if it freezes when opening/editing projects(based on my experience). As for me, neovim is the one, it also fixed my wrist.
@radiantveggies9348
@radiantveggies9348 27 күн бұрын
I complain about that. I use vs code as a lightweight editor with some useful programming related features. For real development work I use intellij
@SQLinForm
@SQLinForm 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your great videos. I even sometimes watch them twice because there is soooo much useful information in your videos. Greetings from Belgium & Germany
@RedBearAK
@RedBearAK 3 ай бұрын
There’s an extension for VSCode to enable zooming font size in the editor separately from the rest of the UI. I think it’s called “Responsive Font Weights”.
@sacredgeometry
@sacredgeometry 2 ай бұрын
Thats so useful, thank you.
@Sestaak
@Sestaak 3 ай бұрын
Performance matters a lot more when low on resources. I've driven a baseline MacBook Air to its limits and beyond for years, most of the time VSC had little to no noticeable delays but whenever running out of memory or having the CPU catch up, it was BAD. Particularly the vim mode plugin (ergonomics, yo) would swallow inputs and become generally unreliable. That aside, VSC also uses much more memory than it needs to, as any Electron based app does. 300-600mb may be nothing for my current computer, but when you're running 8GB with your base system already using 2 of those, you've got some containers (another 1-2GB), browser tabs and other dev tools open, you'll appreciate every bit of extra memory you can save.
@mumble3535
@mumble3535 3 ай бұрын
When working on large monorepos my extensions alone would consistently use 4GB of ram. Thankfully that doesn't really affect my workstation, but it's still not okay.
@himanshutripathi7441
@himanshutripathi7441 3 ай бұрын
I have 8 gb linux laptop I feel firefox eats too much ram even web uses too much ram in general 8gb feels 2Gb these days
@markmywords3817
@markmywords3817 3 ай бұрын
Which is why I just use vs code sparingly when pairing with another person or computer, but personally I use vim and neovim. Also when I need to go to a cafe and want the peace of mind of being able to do quick coding sessions, I could also replace the laptop for a tablet and use vim / code-server via ssh.
@jj-big-slay-yo
@jj-big-slay-yo 3 ай бұрын
Yup, having a browser as the display surface for all electron apps (chromium) and running everything in it essentially adds a non-significant amount of tax to any app. For vs code its's fine (it does a lot of things well), but you can also take a look at intellij based apps (while more advanced) having a java swing based app is also quite heavy. One thing I will never understand is the people who create / use something like hyper (the electron based terminal....) that is just insanity, even if your computer makes no sweat about it.
@justADeni
@justADeni 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Everyone who says that bloated Electron apps are as fast as something native like Zed are just spoiled with high-end pc's
@ecommercewithjay8857
@ecommercewithjay8857 3 ай бұрын
Definitely will be checking out Zed. Thanks!
@wanarchives
@wanarchives 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, killer only for mac user
@Strawmelonjuice
@Strawmelonjuice Ай бұрын
I mean you could try to build it for other OS's, but for now you might run into trouble
@Bankoru
@Bankoru 3 ай бұрын
I dunno if I'm the only one that doesn't care about an extra 50ms or whatever input delay, but just having good features, like what you get with Jetbrains
@DanielHarrisCodes
@DanielHarrisCodes 3 ай бұрын
I held off trying Rider for .NET dev and regret waiting so long. It’s superb on Mac IMO. Not as much of a fan of it on Windows but I have Visual Studio on there. JetBrains Rider has tons of .NET focused tools that VS4Mac didn’t have. I know this is an IDE but JetBrains also have a beta of an application that can switch between text editor (like VS Code) and Full IDE as required. Which I think is an interesting idea
@MindBlowerWTF
@MindBlowerWTF 3 ай бұрын
yeah, if we are talking slow vs slow editors, then at least JetBrains stuff provide great experience.
@Kerojey
@Kerojey 2 ай бұрын
VS code opens for me like in 10 seconds with all extensions, and OS loads in like 12 seconds
@Japanology
@Japanology 3 ай бұрын
How did you do the voice dubbing that perfectly sounds like Bruce Willis? Which tool?
@Ati27
@Ati27 3 ай бұрын
Could be Eleven AI
@milahu
@milahu 3 ай бұрын
just a good microphone to capture the bass
@AndreasToth
@AndreasToth 3 ай бұрын
The response time differences may have a lot to do with the simplified extensions that Zed supports compared to the more complex extension interface of VS Code.
@badpotato
@badpotato 3 ай бұрын
are the cpus so slow... that we need gpu for text display?
@nurronyitc
@nurronyitc 3 ай бұрын
Do you have all extensions disabled? I recently switched to NeoVim because VSCode becomes too slow and memory hogging for large project. Frequently got VM OutOfMemory issue. Moreover the extension can eat up loads of space as well
@peterwan小P
@peterwan小P 3 ай бұрын
8:10 how did you call up that FPS monitor on that MacBook Pro ??😮😉😉
@peterwan小P
@peterwan小P 3 ай бұрын
🤓🤓🤓😝😝😗
@johnfilhmarola5440
@johnfilhmarola5440 4 күн бұрын
its actually not just the input, its everything with it
@moozoowizard
@moozoowizard 3 ай бұрын
So does Zed load at start and stay fully resident in ram but with a hidden window?
@PerfectArmonic
@PerfectArmonic 3 ай бұрын
Is not how fast is vs code, but is how many resources consumes when is running. Sometimes it crushes the entire system… at least on my Mac.
@not_ever
@not_ever 3 ай бұрын
It's not just on the Mac. Electron based browsers are also resource hungry.
@MarkStatkus
@MarkStatkus 3 ай бұрын
I also find many corp environments they got us installing Symantec or some other file scan tank responding to git and VSCode. My Intel max sits at 100C most of the day. Any attempts at asking for an exclusion list are lost.
@dailytipsFR
@dailytipsFR 3 ай бұрын
Try to run webstorm 😅
@andrefig822
@andrefig822 3 ай бұрын
Zed is way faster than VSCode w/ minimal extensions here for my mid-sized projects.
@jaroslavhuss7813
@jaroslavhuss7813 3 ай бұрын
Alex - why are you not wearing Apple vision pro? Scared of seing Zed being 10ms faster on your own eyes? :D
@AZisk
@AZisk 3 ай бұрын
😆
@blinkin_gg
@blinkin_gg 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for doing this comparison!
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 3 ай бұрын
Hi Alex. When you installed it, did you have any problems with VSCode already being present? Or Sublime Text?
@tubero911
@tubero911 3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what kind of problems you're thinking of (it's just another editor) but no, it didn't cause any problems for VSC or Sublime on Mac for me.
@DeanRie
@DeanRie 3 ай бұрын
But what if we compare zed with sublime text? 😊
@dudaoutloud
@dudaoutloud 3 ай бұрын
VSCode does slow down with large projecțs (like multi-project mono repos). I switched over to JetBrains WebStorm and the usability with these large projects was terrific! Yes, you have to pay to use WebStorm, but it’s worth it for my projects (plus JetBrains’ AI Assistant is just as good if not better than copilot).
@aidansgarlato9347
@aidansgarlato9347 3 ай бұрын
Yea I’ve worked on projects where if I have like more then 3 tabs open with tens of thousands of lines I can get an input lag of more then 500ms and witch really sucks
@alextrebek5237
@alextrebek5237 3 ай бұрын
LSP server? Plugins/extensions? No telemetry? Seamless integration with current vscode extensions?
@malborboss
@malborboss 3 ай бұрын
I dont think that it will ever have integration with vs code extensions. Its not based on electron
@xcrap
@xcrap Ай бұрын
I'm using Zed for 2/3 months now and it became my main editor as VSCode is the backup because of the extensions. Zed still has a long way to go but it's quiet impressive what they have done so far and I'm loving it.
@esparda07
@esparda07 3 ай бұрын
When something becomes a "killer" of something, it's usually all hype.
@misternegative2759
@misternegative2759 3 ай бұрын
my sudo nano opens faster than zed
@oldominion8669
@oldominion8669 Ай бұрын
I have switched to Zed only this whole week at work and I really love it. Think I will stay on it in the future.
@Omaricon
@Omaricon 3 ай бұрын
I'm curious how much of a hit the battery takes from using GPUI. Although interesting, the benefits just don't seem to be worth it for me if it affects battery. I'd like to be able to be remote when I want/need to.
@yannick-was-taken
@yannick-was-taken 3 ай бұрын
"stability" lol saw this thing crashing a suspicious amount of times :P
@kirillvoloshin2065
@kirillvoloshin2065 3 ай бұрын
using it for a week, crashed maybe 1 time (M1 Macbook Pro)
@filiprandom
@filiprandom 3 ай бұрын
To me it seemed to mostly crash with the coop coding which makes sense as it's in such early development
@esco5319
@esco5319 3 ай бұрын
Zed is not 1.0 (stable) yet, it's in BETA.
@QuintonDolan
@QuintonDolan 3 ай бұрын
I’m still going to use IntelliJ IDEA to do my actual work because it does so much for me, and can handle working on massive projects well. The only time I run VSCode is when I need a dumb text editor, as long as it has a cli tool to open a file it does what I need.
@makesnosense6304
@makesnosense6304 3 ай бұрын
So, how many times do you open your editor? Not running all the time because of sleep mode in the computer? Sure Zed is quicker but at no point have VSCode been a problem for being slow.
@cyliu2434
@cyliu2434 Ай бұрын
Do I need an Nvidea rtx4090 to maximize the performance? Does it support Dlss and dlaa to make my code look sharper? What frame rate does it run with?
@fenilli
@fenilli 3 ай бұрын
No support for linux nor windows, no dark mode in their website .... long ways to be even close to vscode killer.
@AZisk
@AZisk 3 ай бұрын
your first point is valid. Your second point I have questions.
@fenilli
@fenilli 3 ай бұрын
its mostly about their target audience is wrong, they are not supporting developers as a whole but a niche group, most developers like dark mode on everything, so if your product is for developers so should you target that audience, same goes for the windows 90% usage vs mac...@@AZisk
@fenilli
@fenilli 3 ай бұрын
so to iterate a tldr, I doubt their product because they don't know what their target audience is, so features that most likely would be good will tend to not be priority.@@AZisk
@FirephoenixX02
@FirephoenixX02 3 ай бұрын
Both Windows and Linux support is in the works tho
@fenilli
@fenilli 3 ай бұрын
in the works, is not priority, basically saying " we prefer to work in a 5% usage base instead of the biggest one "@@FirephoenixX02
@brandonbraner
@brandonbraner 3 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but if the speed of opening files is what’s killing your productivity then congrats. Maybe remove some plugin bloat?
@usr3801
@usr3801 2 ай бұрын
Even without any extensions VSCode is starting slower than zed simply because VSCode is built on Electron
@AndreasToth
@AndreasToth 3 ай бұрын
When opening files, mske sure to switch it up do you don't always open using VS Code first because the operating system may coache recent files.
@JosepCrespoSantacreu
@JosepCrespoSantacreu Ай бұрын
Hi Alex! Your videos are a must for any developer, I really enjoy your attention to detail and really professional tests, oriented to the developer ecosystem.
@AZisk
@AZisk Ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@AlexanderBorshak
@AlexanderBorshak 3 ай бұрын
Zed is good, but UI/UX in VS Code is much more convenient. And VS Code is fast enough.
@jasper5945
@jasper5945 3 ай бұрын
not surprise since VS Code using electron.. so you're technically writing code in a browser xD
@t0dd000
@t0dd000 8 күн бұрын
As much as I gripe about electron, I am always shocked at how versatile it is.
@ByronWatts
@ByronWatts 3 ай бұрын
Learned a few things. Thanks.
@Kylbigel
@Kylbigel 3 ай бұрын
In every way possible, the $20/month for GHCP is superior in efficiency and cost-effectiveness to using the chat API endpoint. Also, that pop out to new floating window is a new feature and took VSC a long time, but it’s still limited since you can’t pop out a Jupyter NB.
@adonespitogonaif
@adonespitogonaif 3 ай бұрын
As a vim user, vscode is noticably slow.
@xbeast7585
@xbeast7585 3 ай бұрын
Good but nothing can kill vscode
@federicoagustinsawadyoconn2716
@federicoagustinsawadyoconn2716 19 күн бұрын
Give it a couple of years
@michabbb
@michabbb 3 ай бұрын
Great you didn't post a link, it's so more fun searching for it 👍
@saikrishnan7691
@saikrishnan7691 19 күн бұрын
Not sure if I'll replace vscode with Zed. But I'll still like to test it. When is Zed coming to windows?
@maganaluis92
@maganaluis92 Ай бұрын
The thing I don't like about VSCode, is that is not really OSS, you can create your own plugins but guess who is going to benefit from it? not you, not me, the only one that benefits is Microsoft. So please stop making plugins for VSCode :)
@outrowed
@outrowed 9 күн бұрын
VSCodium and Code OSS exist. Plus with Open VSX Registry as an alternative to Microsoft Extension Gallery.
@thatprasadguy
@thatprasadguy 20 күн бұрын
font used in Zed seems cool. Whats the font name? Is therer similar theme like Zed in vscode?
@modolief
@modolief 3 ай бұрын
Excellent work, thanks!
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 3 ай бұрын
zed is awesome. im not ready to change over. but for sure looks like an exciting project.
@milutzuk
@milutzuk 3 ай бұрын
They improved upon the Notepad code base and called it Zed. As you can see both include e and end with d.
@skb875
@skb875 3 ай бұрын
Does Zed have Emmet? I downloaded Zed but it doesn't seem to have it, unless its something that has to be enabled?
@matthieuhenocque7824
@matthieuhenocque7824 3 ай бұрын
I just installed it on my personal Mac and I have to admit I absolutely love the clean and smooth interface. Thank you Alex! I might try it on my company's Mac too, I'm curious to see how it will manage our huge codebase.
@loldoctor
@loldoctor 3 ай бұрын
I'm curious as well. I don't think I've seen anyone comparing the two editors outside of just basic files or small projects.
@anonyaro9789
@anonyaro9789 3 ай бұрын
good luck with instant crashes lmfao
@Evteboda
@Evteboda 3 ай бұрын
tryed Zed for a while. looks ok for some simple tasks considering perfomance, thx for suggesting new software
@saitaro
@saitaro 3 ай бұрын
Alex went full fuzz testing bloodbath, the poor editor wan't ready for such intensity.
@KenNR88
@KenNR88 20 күн бұрын
have your vs code loaded with lots of extensions during the test?
@sploders1019
@sploders1019 2 ай бұрын
I’m excited to see a new player in the space. I’ve been happily using Helix for a while now (I think Kakoune’s way of doing things makes a lot more sense than vim), but I originally switched from VSCode because I got tired of all the popups, notifications, and random obtrusive features getting added without warning, forcing me to read for hours through release notes and settings descriptions trying to figure out how to turn it off. I want my editor, and I don’t want it to change unless I ask it to. Hopefully Zed turns out this way
@edwardzdankiewicz9068
@edwardzdankiewicz9068 3 ай бұрын
Does Zed let you print? I was surprised by VS Codes lack of a print menu item.
@HyperFocusGamedev-rv5ji
@HyperFocusGamedev-rv5ji Ай бұрын
That's some blast processing right there by Zed.
@JeffBarczewski
@JeffBarczewski 3 ай бұрын
I've switched from vscode to helix for my daily editing. It is amazingly fast and has most of the features I normally use already baked in. Loving it thus far. There's even an extension dance for vscode that stress up a similar keymap to helix so I can use the same key commands if I have to use vacode. It's not perfect but very helpful. All that being said I haven't needed to switch from helix in a while.
@cloudy_thinker
@cloudy_thinker 3 ай бұрын
I have tried the Zed. And it looks awesome . But, it the same time it has some bugs and doesn’t support syntax highlights for Dockerfile for example.
@thripnixe
@thripnixe 2 ай бұрын
One thing I realised is if you want to create a Monopoly, building extension ecosystem is big part of that. Scenarios like this shows it very well. Developers put years of effort into building these awesome extensions and now its harder to competition to break in. Thats why even Google's new cloud ide, project idx is based on code - oss and they can use well established vs code extensions.
@user-vr6zm9wt4i
@user-vr6zm9wt4i 2 ай бұрын
You used lapce ?
@EmbeddedSorcery
@EmbeddedSorcery Ай бұрын
Extensions are what are holding VSCode, like a network effect. Lapce is also pretty fast compared to VSCode, but I don't see how it can take over with so many missing niceties.
@epicmetod
@epicmetod 3 ай бұрын
My vscode (opening 5-8 tabs of source files) takes more RAM than chrome. Idk what cause this, is it because opening large work-folder (libavif) or simply because the number of tabs.
@harshwardhan7858
@harshwardhan7858 5 күн бұрын
I currently use MacBook Air M1, and yes Zed is noticeably faster than VS code (seriously).
@miketost3515
@miketost3515 13 күн бұрын
Soo what did they program zed with 🙃
@kybarg
@kybarg Ай бұрын
There is also Lapce wich as popular as Zed, also written in rust and cross-platform
@Cyn5911
@Cyn5911 5 күн бұрын
ZED = Zombie Extermination Device Sincerely, Tower Battles
@Miluum
@Miluum Ай бұрын
By the way, it is now "available" for Windows and Linux too; but you have to build it yourself. It's essentially just running 3 commands in the terminal. Note that it is really unstable, crashes often, Copilot won't work and lot's of stuff is just not working yet.
@vslow4795
@vslow4795 3 ай бұрын
Will definitely give Zed a good try. I like the idea of modern performance-focused editor. As I am not a full-time programmer, it is hard to keep my vim/neovim configuration stable. In contrast Zed seems to be almost feature-complete without any plugins.
@MindBlowerWTF
@MindBlowerWTF 3 ай бұрын
try helix then
@vslow4795
@vslow4795 3 ай бұрын
@@MindBlowerWTF Does it have support for CoPilot?
@DaeGlyth
@DaeGlyth 3 ай бұрын
I went to go try it, but it's not available on Windows? How can that be a VSCode killer then?
@DaveAlexKD
@DaveAlexKD 3 ай бұрын
I use an editor called Micro, it doesn't have all the bells and whistles but is really fast and I like it.
@cristophermoreno2290
@cristophermoreno2290 3 ай бұрын
I've been using Zed for 1 week now. No regrets moving to zed. (the only missing feature is the capacity to work over ssh on a remote server)
@pabss3193
@pabss3193 3 ай бұрын
Try doing multiline and editing 4000 lines at once, I use sublime for this at times when writing queries for locations and stuff, sublime can be really really slow, how's Zed?
@user-bz6ov5nx5v
@user-bz6ov5nx5v 18 сағат бұрын
Updating 4K lines??? bro are you serious? How about using parameters, or having a good automation to handle these crazy big files you have?
@pabss3193
@pabss3193 16 сағат бұрын
@@user-bz6ov5nx5v sometimes you just gotta do something
@ewerybody
@ewerybody 3 ай бұрын
4:55 the window tear off is pretty new to VS code! Although the issue was sitting in their tracker for almost forever it was always down to some Electron limitations. I guess that was fixed now and so it could be passed to VS code.
@Mr.N0b0dy1sm3
@Mr.N0b0dy1sm3 5 күн бұрын
I code in vim, BTW. thanks for your suggest.
@ImARichard
@ImARichard 3 ай бұрын
Interesting app. I will definitely keep an eye on this project.
@user-ul3ms1og2f
@user-ul3ms1og2f 2 ай бұрын
why it is only for apple laptops's , :( , me also wanted to try something new
@aleaallee
@aleaallee 3 ай бұрын
How can it kill it if it's only available for Mac?
@Mark-kf9uj
@Mark-kf9uj Ай бұрын
Opening folders/files with zed looks like the folder/file is open in the background
@ShowvhickNath
@ShowvhickNath 3 ай бұрын
1. I had real trouble in command+click on definition for a large node js project, where vscode does it smoothly. 2. Git module is very basic in Zed. 3. Very few extensions compared to vscode, I use gitlense, not found here. 4. Shortcut keys were not working for spliting windows vertically or horizontally in Zed 5. On saving files, a yellow overlay over scrollbar were seen, I couldn't find what it is, why is it appearing. 6. I find it quite similar to sublime, not finding any real reason to switch to zed from vscode. It's faster in the sense, opening. Didn't notice any substantial difference in typing speed
@rodyaolast8458
@rodyaolast8458 2 күн бұрын
I deleted zed after all the syntax and type hints suddenly stopped working for me...
@Ikxi
@Ikxi 3 ай бұрын
The response time is more noticable on higher refreshrate monitors 60 fps is good enough, but damn 120-144 hz feels smooth
@ankitthapa7357
@ankitthapa7357 3 ай бұрын
Even to print hello it takes about 6 to 7 seconds in my laptop please somebody help me
@QuaseProgramador
@QuaseProgramador Ай бұрын
Ok... now i will try use zed too, looks so nice
@LukeBarousse
@LukeBarousse 3 ай бұрын
Glad to see that Scharzenager got broken out for the true test 👍
@arnabbiswasalsodeep
@arnabbiswasalsodeep 3 ай бұрын
Since my work required some official extensions only supported in intellij java based editors or vscode, I opted for later. So unless it gets official support from the extensions, can't use it. Can't simulate SystemVerilog stuff cuz there's basically no open source solution to do UVM tests, only via either extensions or via specialised software
@K.Huynh.
@K.Huynh. 3 ай бұрын
Same on you. I installed Zed, for emergencies.
@IStMl
@IStMl 21 күн бұрын
Zed is like Arc. Reinventing the wheel for the sake of it.
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