People start screaming that 8GB is not enough, I love that.

They've been configuring their base model laptops with 8GB of RAM since 2012! That is insane. The fact that they put 8GB in an M3 MacBook "Pro" is criminal. They're bottlenecking an amazing chip by skimping on one of the cheapest components in the laptop. All so they can force people to pay their extortion prices on upgrades. The MacBook Pros should be running 24GB now at least. I love my 16" M1 Pro, but some of the stuff Apple does is so blatantly anti-consumer that it is insulting.

8 GB is said to be enough, but 8GB is 8GB, and it cannot hold 16GB of data

It’s 8GB SHARED! it’s insane, even 16 is pathetic on a “pro” product

Steve Jobs would’ve never let this happen

the guy is going to go around the world to say what to think of the mac with 8 GB of ram😂

my 4GB laptop running steam, discord, Door kickers 2 and Firefox with 5 tabs on ubuntu: “Pathetic”

12GB would be fine for the Air as the minimum. 16GB for anything "Pro". Preferably 24-32GB for "Pro" laptops.

There is Apple Math involved in RAM, Sam Tucker from Apple explained it 😂😂

Love these shorts roasting the base storage & ram specs. Reviewers like yourself definitely need to pressure Apple to improve their base models

MacOS usually eats around 2-2.5GB of memory, though it does populate spare memory with cached data so after a fresh boot you'll be sitting at around 6GB of memory used.

this speaks a lot about max tech and what they understand about computers. it’s not true that macos require 5-6 gb just when turned on. they can’t even understand that out of these 5 gb, more than 2 is cache, which will be cleared if the system thinks other user facing processes might need the memory. But yes, 16 gb for a 1.2k machine should be the base.

I will never ever buy a +1000$ laptop with ONLY 8 fkin GIGABYTES of RAM

imagine your operating system using all your ram

Linux use just 2 gb ram on my pc

6g just for windows.. no way.. not a chance! Plus people fail to understand how memory works, especially in macos.

8gb wouldn't be so bad... Some people who just use a browser and email and maybe some single tasking office apps. 8 GB might be ok. But to charge another $200 for the large number of people who need 16gb when we all know those memory chips are $20 is criminal. One of the main reasons I will never own another Mac

6 GB just to turn it on? AZisk's own 8GB video showed and explained that this isn't true; not only is it only 4.xx, about half of that is "held" memory that can be given back if a user process needs it. Not to say that stock Apple builds shouldn't have more than 8GB, but let's not lie when we don't have to.

8 GB for Lightroom+ Photoshop or After Effects + Premiere??? No.

8gb is not acceptable in 2020 not 2024

Relying on Virtual Memory with an SSD isn't good. Even with newer SSD's, they have a limit to how many times they can be written to and constantly using it as emergency RAM is going to ensure it dies much faster.

8GB is perfectly fine for most Apple buyers, because the most they would do is to watch KZfaq, Netflix and browse through photos and most importantly showing-off Apple logo at Starbucks.

Using Xcode, Safari, CarPlay Simulator, UTM, and running some docker stuff never felt more stable on my M2 8GiB Mac mini.

That channel is very pro-Mac, so its cool to see him say this. And its very true. In my experience, I find Windows actually uses less memory than MacOS on a cold boot.

8 GB is fine for businesses who want their employees to focus on their work rather than 20 browser tabs. Or for students who can't afford more and should be writing their assignments. For everyone else it sucks.

My windows laptop is using about 4.5GB of Ram right now, with just chrome open (16 total)

Arm uses double the ram compared to x86 because it’s risc and reduced instructions require twice the instructions to do the same task! Great power efficiency but more ram usage

I've got the M1 Air with 8GB. Not quite 2x Windows but at least 1.5x. The 16GB probably is 2x.

Please keep thrashing Apple and hopefully next gen they won’t try to pull out the same bs.

They needed to compare 8 on Mac and 16 on Windows, but they did compare 16 Mac and 32 on Mac. Am I stupid or what?

6gig isn‘t just macos, also parts of installed apps are preloaded and also includes the graphics ram. As long you use the preinstalled apps 8gig will be fine e.g. streaming, watching movies, doing text and calculation stuff, surfing web, creating birthday party invites for the kids, creating family photo albums and look backs.

I honestly think 8GB of ram can work depending on your use case. I have an M3 base spec laptop (8GB RAM, 256GB Drive). I do some work in sketchup (not a full pro here), and I’m able to render 3D lighting software from twinmotion with it. It’s surprisingly snappy. I also use a lot of programs simultaneously, which I know is more relevant to RAM. However, I don’t use this computer for hardcore things like I do on my production computer. The M3 is mostly for daily low power things like email, KZfaq, programs to run AV at my church, and light video editing. So, depending on your use case, you can get a ton of mileage out of 8GB, and I’m proof that it’s actually true. Still, with all that being said, 8GB is clearly not the same as 16GB 😂🤣😂🤣 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

Just when you tryng to download some soft like DaVinci or Andoid Studio you can see redomended needed RAM for them. And always same for both OS.

Consumers should demand more for the money paid

Yes it only has 8 gigs, but for large projects it’ll use SSD instead of RAM once it fills up. So it’s not really as bad as they’re saying it is

You have to look at when swap space starts kicking in with your particular use case. My base M1 mini does pretty good with somewhat large Logic Pro projects. Swap only really kicks in when I fire up superior Drummer 3, and that quickly ramps up the swap to 8GBs. I’m definitely going to get a Mac Studio with 32 gigs when the M4 comes out. For me, even 16 gigs isn’t enough to avoid swap.

I’ve a 16GB Mac Mini and a 8GB IMac both M1. They both work brilliantly. However I only use them for surfing, email and document editing and a lot of SSH remote terminals. I’m completely satisfied with the 8GB iMac and it’s a 4.5k display. The Mac Mini is overspeced and rarely uses more than 8GB. ;-)

They should start making 16GB as standard one. They can start with M4.

Where is the video

why i cant find this video before buying an 8 gigs model of M3 chip

And here I am using a window 10 2 in 1 with 2 gb of ram 😅

I have an m1 MacBook air with only 8gb and it runs perfectly fine. If you are not a power user you won't have a problem. The problem with a lot of KZfaqr reviews of laptops is that they are all video editors and think everyone else is. Average person needs something to browse the web and do spreadsheets.

Even the Mac boys know about the Apple RAM SCAM

Yep as an Apple fan boy I do like to test drive a lot of Apple products a lot of them I do end up keeping but the thing that I haven’t kept recently was my M2 MacBook Air well actually two of them. The first one was because it was the cheapest model with 8GB RAM it was basically horrible in my opinion. Then the second one was a 15 inch MacBook Air M2 that I expected out to the highest amount of RAM and 2TB of storage I loved it, but the only thing was the new MacBook Pro just came out with the M3 chip and I ended up buying that instead. And don’t worry I also suspect that out to total came out to about $5500+ I basically over future proof that because like my older Macs this one will probably last me for 10 years. I went with the 16in highest M3 Max chip with 40 core GPU, 128GB of RAM, and the 2TB storage. I did that much ram mainly because I want to match the amount of ram in my main windows PC system right now. Also if you look at it with the other Apple products I own a $5500 Mac book wouldn’t really be surprising also Apples free financing is the best. And yes I personally enjoy it and believe it was well worth it because I have so much of the Apple ecosystem that this laptop works great for every day use and vacation.😊

I'm using up 11GB RAM with just 1 tab of KZfaq - I'm using the M3 Pro.

Who's watching this after buying 8GB mac😅

I would say 8gb is enough for the daily consumer as unified ram is much more efficient than the traditional RAM we are used to. 16gb of unified RAM would be recommended for heavy multitasking and video or photo editing, in my opinion.

If I only use office applications, wouldn't 8gb be enough?

Sorry Max, not true. The OS uses about 4 GBs and gets out of the way when more memory is needed. I have a 8GB Mac Mini (M1) and can run the latest llama3 8B directly on the silicone ((no swap). You can also run a 6GB container (not great, but you can do it).

I bought an 8GB hp victus laptop in 2024. For 107$ less than 16GB version. And paid 36$ for a 16GB DDR4. I got $ 71 and 8GB richer. (16+8)

Bro the thumbnail literally says 8GB on Mac=16GB on Windows wdym that’s not true💀

The thing about windows is that you can upgrade the ram on every normal machine (laptop or desktop), but Mac you can’t!

8GB is fine for both Windows and Mac OS. Even 4GB is usable. People are just spoiled. The OS only uses extra RAM on idle if it's available for caching files and stuff. On Mac OS this is wired memory from closed applications. That memory is freed when necessary and in worst case you get paging. 8GB is fine.

People giving overprice for a laptop because of its brand value. The brand value :lying

“I tested it!”…but not really. When I tested 16gb of Mac RAM against 32 of Windows “THE PERFORMANCE WAS PRETTY GOOD!” Test Apple base models against Windows machines. If the Elite chips are as good as predicted and give real competition, Apple WILL increase RAM. Business is business.

But then why there are reviewers editing videos on 8gb base models?

And here I am using Linux where 8gb is more than enough, at least for my use case

I just ordered the m3 pro 14 inch 18gb 512gb for adobe creative cloud and figma i assume this will be enough cuz mostly from adobe i use only photoshop So photoshop, Figma, Web browsing and mostly not very larg files This is the first time i will professionaly try a macbook because im a windows user And i hope those specs are fine and will not dissapoint me

And Linux just really needs 2-4 but 8-16 GB is recommended

8gb is fine for most people, the majority of the world doesn’t use their laptop to game, develop software etc. They just watch KZfaq, use Microsoft word, google chrome, check emails.

We’ve all been saying for 6+ years 8GB is not enough. Mac OS is not more or less effective on 8GB vs windows. You’d have to be crazy or skint to get an 8GB Mac

My laptop has windows 11 on it and it came with 4gb of ram I had to get a second ram stick of 8gb to get it to run smoothly but sometimes it's stills slows dow I have an HP though

good content as always

I'm watching this on an 8GB Mac mini and where does he get the idea that 6GB of ram is always being used by MacOS just running. I have With a couple other safari tabs open and a big gb studio project and I still have 4 GB of ram available.

Bruv i got off the mac hype train when i realized i could build the same mac in about 50 percent of the cost on pc. 😂 i never looked back

I think he's wrong about macos using 6 gb ram I have a 8gb macbook it uses 4-4.5 gb of ram idle what I think that if we buy a 16 gb of ram macbook the macos will definitely going to use more ram maybe 6 gb also my recommendation to definitely go for 16 gb of u can afford

Apple math

Watching this on 8GB Linux laptop

Laptop in 2024, if really want to pushe the budget should either have at least 12 GB. Either it is upgradeable, 8GB + 1 upgradeable, or soldered min. 12 GB. If we are seeing in the future, ideally, we need at least 16GB so it can run for at least 5 years with no issue. It is regardless of professional use. If 6GB is used only for OS (well, it reserve some memory to get snappier experience), and chrome needs at least 2 GB in my daily use... we know it is not enough. And remember that Macbook air uses unified memory while some Windows laptop has dedicated memory for GPU, so technically 8GB RAM + 4GB VRAM. Those 4 GB VRAM will be more useful if you need to edit video or use light Ai stuffs

8GB RAM in a "professional" laptop is criminal. Even Microsoft's Surface Pro - which is more deserving of the name "Pro", ships with 16GB base value now!

Windows uses 3.3GB not 6 idk about macOS tho windows 10 pro uses 2.3

is the MacBook Air M3 15" 16 and 256 GB enough for Deep Learning tasks? I'm an AI grad student and looking for a new laptop. Or is it worth upgrading to Pro M3? Pro M3 doesn't offer a significant performance boost over 15" Air.

Guys, you should already knows it. 8g of ram for Apple is a feature, not a lack !

Would u recommend 24Gb for a M3 Air?

Very dumb thing to say, 2mp of space is 2mp of space regardless of the speed of which you can fill and empty that space....

8gb works fine to browse the web and reply emails.

I’m sad I’m paying off a m2 MacBook Air I just got it not even 2 weeks ago :/

TRUTH really hurts for iSheeps,, go on and keep defending your favorite brand

8GB is indeed enough... Assuming every single app you're going to use is hyper-optimised, works completely natively, doesn't supply its own libraries and uses shared ones as much as possible... ...aaand isn't written in Electron.

I will NEVER run any OS that isn’t open source EVER again. If I need something proprietary, I spin up a virtual machine. I even have a MacOS VM in qemu. I think I’ve used it once.

Mac OS using 6GB is just pure bs 💀. Even windows uses 3.5GB for me (a clean install that is)

If apple claims something like that it is true. At least for the generic user of a macbook. You cant compare macos and windows or ios and amdroid since they both have their own special use cases. No windows user would buy a mac and think he gets the same results or vise versa. But as a sound engineer i wouldn’t go back to a 8gb windows laptop while my 8gb m3 MBPro bc the windows laptop would die on the same load. Even the 16gb i9 mbp i have struggles on the same projects in fl studio or ableton

and it is also 128 gbs on linux

im ok with 8gb on macos. i can open so many apps and it wont lag. so im ok wiht 8

as someone who's left winblows for almost a decade and never used a mac before, hearing they require 6GB just for OS is insane, wow

Chrome alone needs 8GB :-)

Apple zealots will still argue how Apple is special and 8gb is "unified" then ask you if you know what that means when they themselves do not. No offense intended sorry if it sounds that way, but TL;DR Max is right, 8GB is pretty low on a modern mac and it's definitely to collect as much money from the consumer as possible, such as $200 extra just to bump to 16gb. SSDs are very small for base models too by modern standards.

Video below where

isnt it true that 16gb uses more energy? so therefore less battery life?

MacOS DOES NOT use 6GB by itself.

meanwhile 1GB enough for Ubuntu

ha! Linux uses 1GB some other distro uses 2GB at most.

It should be a crime for Apple to sell 8GB Ram laptops in 2023/2024. They are creating a lot of eWaste when these machines could have lasted many, many more years with just 16GB ram.

Okay. But guys… while it’s true that 8GB is a joke these days, he clearly doesn’t understand how RAM or unified memory works. Unused RAM is wasted ram. For instance, if a device with 32GB of unified memory or RAM were to boot up the same OS on the other device using 6GB idle, it would use about 20GB, probably-not 6. Devices are made by smart people, and they know that ram is better put to use by using it and not just sitting there. So, yes, it’s too little, but no, that’s not how this works!

The price of 64 Gigs of DDR5 ultra fast RAM in Windows laptop = the price of 16 Gigs of ram in MacBooks

Maybe someone can answer my question: will an 8gb m1 MacBook Air be suitable for audio recording with reaper and light video editing with DaVinci resolve?

You can't wipe you ass with 8 GB. 32 GB is $60 RETAIL! There is no excuse for anything more than a Chromebook ship with less.

I had a notebook with 8gb of ran, it was't able to open 2 adobe xd layouts in the same time on edge, while using photoshop and youtube and vs code, to be able to do this i needed to upgrade to 12 gb, i tried to go to 16 but my notebook did't work, BUT on my mac with 8gb of ram just worked, whitout lag, edge JUST WORKS and on mac it runs WITHOUT disabling my other tabs in background. I had another notebook older with linux that was able to work with 8gb of RAM, not like MAC OS, but OK, opening more tabs, FOR ME is not THE RAM, IS the SHITTY SYSTEM THAT STEAL RAM LIKE CHROME FOR NOTHING... 8GB on windows vs 8GB on MAC is like 4GB on windows vs 8GB on MAC/Linux.

64gb on pc = way too expensive or simply impossible on Mac

MacOs uses 4.1gb