My wife picks up her 10/22 target today so good to know the CCI Standards are a good place to get it dialled in. If it can group like my TC R55 Benchmark does with cheap Geco semi auto ammo she'll be very happy! Thanks for making the video.

...using one ammo, I found the stock bolt torque setting made more difference than the ammo in this test. 4 shot groups @100 yards went from 3/4" to 21/2" between 17"/lbs up to 27"/lbs. Something to do with barrel harmonics apparently....

Thanks for doing that man. I just bought (overpaid) for a box of the green tag to do the same comparison to the std velocity. I'm anxious to see my results for comparison to yours in my 10/22.

One of the interesting things I learned getting into rim fires is that all my guns hate green tag. Standard nearly always shoots well though. High velocity stuff rarely shoots well, meaning good groups. Mini mags are accurate enough for most hunting uses. Stingers less so.

For testing outdoors at or slightly below freezing I think your results are quite good for the standard velocity ammo. The MiniMag HP seemed to do okay at 100m compared to 50m. I think you might find the MiniMag 40gr would do better still. I like that you use 10 shot groups and verify results with a second 10 shot group. Ammo quality testing is a game of statistics. 3 or 5 shot groups that some use for RF ammo mean NOTHING! I think you are shooting rather quickly (which makes sense in changing conditions like swirling wind) and if you work on making your hold on target, pressure on the stock, trigger pull in stages to a surprise release and a clean follow through consistent, you would improve your group size by a third. However, your results were very representative of quality ammo your rifle likes. I suggest repeating the test at typical summer temperatures and see if things change at all.

Great review! You just confirmed that my choice of CCI Standard is the best. It’s all I shoot through both my rifles and pistols… It was the first ammo I tried and has never given me any problems. I just wish 22 lr ammo overall shot cleaner. I’m fastidious about keeping my firearms clean.. and that greatly affects my accuracy. Watching your review had me wondering if you’d cleaned your gun before starting the test. The only improvement that I could see to your test (obviously with a freshly cleaned and warmed up barrel) would be to repeat the test with your rifle locked down in something like a Ransom rest and trigger pulls being achieved mechanically….

Good stuff!! Shooting 22LR out at the range is fun and affordable. Thanks for sharing.

Very informative vid boss. I really learned A lot. Didn't expect that the mini mags n stingers were so inaccurate.

I don't know what he doing, but he is all over the place and Ruger shoot way better than that

Well , that was time I won't get back !! That gun don't shoot straight or is it You ?

Thank you for the well done videos

Skip to 15:00 for results.

Thank you for this video. 100 meters test, outside in cold temperature, consistent trigger pulls. I've done informal testing/comparison of the hypervelocity CCI Stingers and Velocitors and they perform excellent abeit under different conditions and parameters. Indoor range (no wind, A/C, at 50 feet/15.24 meters) Ruger 10/22 Carbine (basic model w/ wood stock, 18.5" barrel, factory iron sights)

Good job bro keep the videos coming

Good stuff!

A few days ago I went out to my local shooting shooting range to test out the new (el-cheapo) scope I got for my my very nice Savage 64F. I tested CCI standard velocity, CCI 710 FPS subs and then some random other super sonics. The CCI standards gave me beautiful groups just like yours. All the others gave wide groups. Oh I forgot to mention this was 50m (164 feet). The CCI subs, 710fps and not yours at 10??fps were so bad that I could actually see the bullet head as it flew to the target. They dropped between 6 and 11 inches at 50 meters. Maybe that could be another video... How much a bullet drops vs its FPS. Thanks for great video. You answered my concerns 100%.

occasionally the barrel changes position in the stock its 2 grouping visibly

Please, less music next time.

Interesting video. I enjoyed viewing it, keep up the good work. My own .22 LR shooting varies a fair amount. Between me, the gun and the ammo, my groups are so so.

I have the same rifle and was getting similar results. Free floated with just so so accuracy. I tried some that Shoot To Kill had on a video and put electrical tape around the barrel couple inches back from end of stock. Not sure what the science behind it is but it worked, enough that I decided against changing the barrel to a Shaw. Thanks for your info.

nice review! I've been using standard CCI in my anchutz bolt action rifle and sig 522 with the same result as yours. Tried using ellice, federal and armscor and almost same result. as long as you don't exceed 1070 fps, you'll have a grouping of 1 1/2 of an inch at 100 meters. More so if you have a suppressor.

Where did you find the CCI Green? The CCI bullets nominal diameter is perfect for the 597 that I use for CRPS/ORPS and small game at range. Like any rifle they are going to prefer their specific ammo. I like how consistent CCI keeps their powder charge, I can get .5MOA groups with 40gr Mini Mags @50 and 1.5MOA groups @100 with 40gr Standards (zero wind), but every rifle is different, even when comparing identical rifles.

CCI Standard Velocity is my most accurate ammo that I buy out of about 8-10 types as well. Still it depends on the gun but realistically speaking if you have to set your gun up for an ammo type it's best to buy that ammo exclusively since each ammo type groups in a different location on the target based on speed and weight and barrel and whatever else I forgot.

I wonder what effect transonic destabilization played in this test? The 22LR is a finicky beast.

Cci standard velocity does consistent ½ inch groups for my ruger volquartsen kidd hybrid target charger 10/22 at 100meters. For a Custom Bolt re worked and highly modified Marlin 880ss, match chambered rebarreled 12.5 inch Bull with a Jard re worked trigger groups are ¾ of an inch at best at 100meters with some work as the stock is the synthetic hunting stock so handling it when bench Shooting requires some extra care because of that flexible stock. The .22lr standard velocity though made in the early 2000s packed in those hard cases are very accurate and consistent on a lot of our rimfire rigs compared to the ones manufactured as of recent. We still have around 10,000 plus rounds of the old stuff that are used for precision long range rimfire hunts or competition target as they are more dependable for less Fliers.

Chamber or bore is fouled? Key holes on some targets?

Great video. A trick that I like is to use those little orange sticker targets. I bet your groups will tighten up

The reason high and hyper velocity rounds are not so accurate at 100 is because they go through the transonic faze. I was able to squeeze out a half moa group at 100 meters with 5 rounds with my t1x and rws subs, four of the rounds were in 7.5mm, with lapua polar biathlon 30 rounds in 4cm, 20 of which were in a 3/4moa cluster. Stingers and standard velocity work for me superbly at 50 meters, but at 100 both start suffering quite a bit

Unfortunately this test does little to proof anything other than SV work better in your rifle, with maybe a little more shooting practice. For me Velocitors work the best all round in both my rifles and pistols. I like the extra weight as they are more stable over distance against breeze and hit harder. The hollow point also makes them a little longer so the BC should be better as well as the amount of projectile contact with the rifling/lands of the barrel. Anyway thanks for the the video...👍

Every gun and/or barrel likes a certain round. It's interesting to me the best grouping was with a relatively cold barrel. When the barrel warms up, it has different characteristics. I also noticed snow in the background....ambient temperature also affects accuracy (along with barrel quality, trigger quality, bolt carrier quality and shooter quality.....lol) p.s. I exclusively use CCI standard velocity.

I find a faster barrel twist is much better for accuracy on the faster bullets. 1 in 12 works well for stingers and coppers.

High velocity stuff is difficult at longer range. In my 10/22, I get 1” at 50 yards with stingers. Unfortunately, 100 yards is about where they hit transonic, and that throws them all over the place.

I’m a standard velocity guy myself.. I was curious though if you’d had any experience with the CCI AR Tactical ammo… I’m thinking of trying that in my Tippmann M4 Elite 22lr rifle. CCI’s literature indicates that it feeds better in larger magazines..

Please don't think I am being mean. You are using one of the best 22 rifles on the market and shooting a selection of highly regarded ammunition but all your groups are in a word "terrible". There is no doubt in my mind that either your scope is junk or the rifle has a problem.

To come up with the 1.7" grouping did you throw all the flyers out?

Yeah idk. My 10/22 with a 20 inch green mountian holds 1inch at 100 with cci standards. Green tags are about the same.

A very informative video, good comparison of the CCI rounds but.........that god awful cheesy "music". I would much rather hear the report from the rifle and the thud of the bullet. A brilliant video spoiled by the irritating soundtrack.

Very nice video 👍

Thanks!

Thank you.

The stingers were my go to but anymore it is batch by batch with any .22 round. Consistency just plain sucks in ammo anymore.

Your final results verify my findings as well, though I've only one rifle that handles CCI well. Most the others grew up on a diet of Federal, for some odd reason.

I'm finding that it's taking up to 50 rounds or even more in some cases, to acclimate and settle the barrel between loads before you can get any useful information on performance.

We're you adjusting for a right to left crosswind for the earlier shots

I have the Savage fvsr CCI 40gr hp at 100 2 in the same hole it's just not as available as other 22lr in my area... It all really depends on the area that you are in riffle and scope combo and I'm in Missouri

I would like to see the same test with a semi auto pistol. Some have trouble recycling. I'm looking for the best at the best price . Thanks

Great video.

I just got back from the range a few minutes ago, here's what's up with my marlin 60. At 50 yards i had a 1/4 inch group, if that (they were all touching), with cci minimags and not one flier out of over 150 rounds. At 50 yards I had a slightly larger group with stingers. And every once in awhile, about 1 in 5 rounds, i would get a complete random shot placement (i shot 250 stingers today, my dad shot the other 250). Consistent nickel groups, with random fliers 4 inches or so off in any direction. Left, right, up, down, didn't matter. Same for him. There was 0 wind today. We were using benches. It wasn't us, the minimags we just changed from were not doing this. If you have a marlin 60 get minimags. We had simmons 4x20 scopes. Faster isn't better.

Minute of angle variance per variety test I secure my rifle in a vice taking the shooter out of the equation .

I wonder how much your environment is effecting this video. Barrel gets hot in the cold weather and cools at irregular times depending on the load.

Good video

I’m glad I’ve got a good stock of Velocitors. Also of subsonics.

CCI sv is green tag that didn't measure up accuracy wise. The lube on CCI sv does not like the cold. I Have to clean the chamber every 100 or so rounds when I shoot it in my savage mk 2

thanks standard seems the bet all around

I have the savage FV-SR .22LR with Boyd's tactical stock and Bushnell 4-12x50 scope I found that it really likes cci 40gr subsonic hp 1050fps at 100yrds I can put most of my shots in the same hole..now if I switch to a standard or higher velocity I have to re-zero

For a 10-22 with a target barrel it seems SOMETHING should group a lot better. One thing…I know when testing centerfire ammo there’s this mantra about comparing groups out of “a clean, cold barrel “ so that everything is on an even playing field and would reflect the first shots at game in a hunting situation. I know a good bull barrel is supposed to minimize that but your setup must have been hot, hot, hot the further into your testing you got. Then there’s the thing about clean. Anyway, it didn’t seem to me that the different ammunitions were giving stellar results…they were shooting equally meh level. As to your vid? Stellar, bro! Good camera, sound and presentation. Many thanks for your efforts. PS: do you buy your ammo directly from CCI’s website? Usually best price there and decent availability. Of course, “decent” in today’s world means something very different than what it used to mean.

Why do you wear ear protection when the ammo is so quiet?

cz 452 with cci mini mag solids...less than 1/2 group at 50 yards, all day long most consistent high velocity ammo ive found

You are using the Ruger Target version of the 10/22. It was designed for competition shooting and that’s why it shoots better with standard/Green Tag ammo. Under no circumstance should you ever use Stingers in this particular rifle. The Stinger casing is slightly longer and can damage your match grade chamber. It says this clearly in your owners manual. I have the same rifle as you and at 50 yards mine will shoot 1/2 groups all day long with Green Tag. I won’t shoot any ammo faster than 1090 through it. I have pinker rifles for high velocity fun.

Did you clean the barrel between each different target? I doubt it.

Cci mini mag and stinger is all I shoot thru my marlin, just bought some round nose winchester and the other cci round nose, hopefully she don't throw a fit

Pardon the suggestion. If you can, do the same test using a CZ bolt action rifle in 22 caliber.

Where do you buy your ammo locally? I will see you at the range one day. Thanks.

Sound track: was that from a seventies TV cop series?

Seems there are a lot of experts commenting on a guy that is trying to do you a favor. Now, groups are groups regardless of the speed of shooting etc in the comments that I see below. And, if you think one can't keep the bull of his size in the crosshairs of a Vortex 16x at 100 meters at his rate of fire you should probably turn in your comment card. The factor (variable) that is controlled across cartridges is *his shooting*. So, that variable was constant over the range of bullets he tested. During load development I can (and have) given my handload trials to another guy that shoots 1/4 moa at 250 yards and owns basically the same Axis II Predator 6.5mm CM HB--He has much better glass; that's why he shoots better at that distance. He'll always come up with smaller groups, but the **most accurate loads** (grains of powder) will be the same between what he shoots and what I shoot. That fact that isn't emphasized here is that when the hypersonics go subsonic (in front of the target...do your external ballistics...) they always go unstable. So, not surprising that the hypersonics lose here. However, one .22 cartridge that consistently surprises me is the Blazer, and that wasn't compared here. That one breaks several of the so-called rules in my REM 581. A similar sort of external ballistic effect is observed in high velocity bullets, where the tip of the bullet heats up during flight and cause unpredictable alterations in the BC...That's why Hornady developed the polymer tip in the ELDs, and that's why I use them. The bottom line is that there is more to accuracy than velocity...especially when your shooting a 40 grain piece of crap bullet that has been bashed up more than a '56 Dodge pickup truck, shoved in a small soft brass case, and then coated with wax to make it work in the barrel. Ya just have to test them however you can.

You stated 1.9” bull..... is that the largest black circle ? Or the white center ??

One thing I see is that it is cold outside or so I'm led to believe by the snow. This might explain some of the inconsistency. Living in North Louisiana where snow is relatively rare, temps in the early fall are generally in the 70's and hardly ever stay below freezing all day in the coldest weather. I will say, I was disappointed in overall accuracy of the test, but then again I wasn't there to shoot groups with my rifle. I'll have to set up and shoot some (been wanting to anyway). 2 minutes is very good accuracy for non-match ammo. Doesn't happen all that often with standard production rifles, IME. A little Lapua Biathlon as a reference load would have been interesting.

Wow. Arm chair warriors unite. lol Don’t mind the guys giving you a hard time. I liked and subscribed There is value in all data. 110 yards I’d expect 2” group or less from whichever ammo your gun favours. I have no custom or expensive rimfires but my hunting/ bang around 22s and 22mag shoot about 3/4 to 1” groups at 50. I’ll search your content for some Eley reviews?

very good info although I wish he would have tried a couple different rifles (maybe a CZ, Tikka, or Ruger Precision). Probably the most interesting part of this video was the incredibly high prices they pay in Canada for a very common rimfire round.

Yeah I'll keep my marlin model 60

I lovo to hit the quarter coin as far as 150 meters an even 200 with a marlin 22lr without the scope but the accurate rifle and scopes and good bullets all work synchronize with the shooter

This proves why I don't own a Ruger 10/22, may be fine as a short range plinker, but sub par for anything else.

Is it me or are you dry firing the gun every 11th shot attempt (not stopping after the mag is empty)? That can't be good for the gun can it?

brother, it's nt my place to second guess you, i give you credit for the effort and the vid. id just like to ask how much you have in that rifle, including the bull barrel. then id like to suggest that if you can get hold of a stock marlin model 60, scope it, sight it in, do the same test with the same ammo except with the marlin, and i'd like to see the results of that

Green Tag, Mini-Mag & Velocitor are the only CCi I buy.

I have never been a fan or had good results with cci. This helps me feel it isn’t just my shooting. Thanks.

None of them shot bad , and that is great

The groups were not good. Something is wrong with either the scope, bedding issues, or you need to hold still.

Interesting results... EVERY gun is different... my results in a standard barrel ruger 10/22 are vastly different from your's... I'm a velocitor guy... they hold the tightest groups out of my gun... around 2 to 2.5 at 100 yards... which i am pleased with... usually only takes 2 to 3 shots to clip a shot gun hull @100... great review... but what people need to understand is every gun pukes ammo out differently.

My experience with CCI ammo of late has been lack luster at best. When I ran out of 20 year old standard velocity which shot great in my arsenal of 22 rifles. I was extremely disappointed with current standard velocity. And it's not just me, I shoot with a group of target shooters who's experience is similar. We have all gone too Aquila standard velocity extra for better plinking/target accuracy. When my supply of 30 year old green tag is exhausted I will be leaving the CCI ammo behind, barring some return to quality control. I have witnessed CCI go from the standard the Industry was judged by, To something less of late. I realize money must be made, but it looks like maintenance and calibration of the loading equipment is not what it once was. I sincerely hope that the good product of the past does not only live in the past forever. Your product is slipping ln quality CCI and you need to fix it before its too late.

I like accurate rifles out of the box therefore, I have Marlins. XT 22, 795, and a couple of model 60's. Only 10/22 I've ever seen that could shoot with a 160 dollar marlin model 60 was a 700 dollar custom built 10/22. And even then, it couldn't out shoot my 220 dollar xt22. Guess I'll stick with marlin. Or, just maybe, now that ruger has bought marlin, you will soon be able to get a 10/22 with a micro grove barrel. How cool would that be. Thanks for the video. Stay Safe and GOD Bless 🙏🕊🦅🇺🇸

My 1971 mossberg 346 gets tight groups no matter what I run through it.

What about at 50m? Could you do a test?

I like the shot gun your using it has a good group for a 100 yards

10/22 are not accurate by any means, they shoot patterns like a shot gun not groups. My Rem 597 shoots so much better, if your checking accuracy of a given ammo use a fire arm which is known for accuracy, I my Rem 597 is very accurate for semi auto but if your accuracy testing use a known accurate bolt gun such as anchutz. The ammo is unable to be accurate when shot through a known in accurate gun. I was never impressed with the 10/22 for Target or hunting but it does go bang so it appears that's good enough for some.

but which has a bigger impact on objects??

shame you did not have a chrono to see just how fast or slow they were really shooting .thanks for the video .

Sorry man but either your gun doesn't like CCI, or you have bedding issues. Is that a hammer forged barrel?

I have the exact same gun and setup, I also have 5 beautiful springfield m22's made in the 20's and 30's. the only gun that can come close is a Winchester mod 52. I can do groups alot better than that at 200 meters prone open sights, im not bragging, its not me! Believe it or not 40grn Aguila copper plated super extra's! Many days testing ammo and these will out shoot any i have ever tried in any gun! Please try them!

I'm hitting at 20c coin with mini mag at 92m out of a savage mark3 🤔

When was the last time you cleaned that barrel? Like REALLY cleaned it? My 1022 shoots half dollar sized groups at 100 yards with a cheap KSA heavy barrel from ebay and cci sv. You have serious issues going on here. Also most target barrels don't reccomend stingers. Also try adjust your take down bolt..you'd be surprised.

Do you get highland ammo of there ? They are cheaper and consistent

my savage 64 loves velociters 1.25 all day...trigge rdone bedding recrown 2.5x10 scope

You have convinced me not to run out and buy a Ruger 10 22.

this test on a reliable bolt gun such as T1x / 457 would be very interesting...

Paper shooters find that the "sub sonic" ammo usually wins. Why? Because the bullet doesn't have to deal with the turbulence created by sonic speeds. Hunters find that 40 grain high velocity usually wins...because they are looking for the most ethical shots, ammo that includes both reasonable accuracy and also effective penetration.

New 10/22's say not to shoot stingers explicitly. Also the newer 10/22's kind of suck. They are not made well anymore.

CCI is a reliable ammo but does not do well in accuracy testing compared to other brands. So the best CCI would be the CCI someone else is shooting

Why they didnt zero the scope in the center of the target?

Bed the rifle and the groups should shrink. I've been shooting eggs all weekend at 150 yards with my built 1022. Cci standard is known to be the best bang for the buck in the 22 community and this just proves it even more. All that matters is did you have fun.