First Time VESC User - The Real Experience

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AlexLTDLX

AlexLTDLX

2 жыл бұрын

I try taking on the complex world of VESC and making a BIG brushless motor run. Join our electric turbo forum for more info about batteries, ESCs, motors and turbos/superchargers ripe for electric conversion at www.electrifiedboost.com. If you'd like to help me pay for all this stuff checkout my Patreon page: / alexltdlx

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@LeonardThomasHall
@LeonardThomasHall Күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! You chose current control in the PPM Configuration. I believe this is effectively torque control. As you have no load the speed will continue to increase until you reach your maximum rpm. I think this is why it is going straight to maximum pwm and rpm. If you change the PPM Configuration to "Duty Cycle No Reverse" you should have an input that is approximately speed control. I suspect this is what you are expecting to see. Disclaimer: I am not an expert, just making an observation in an attempt to help :)
@robbiyoung85
@robbiyoung85 2 жыл бұрын
always learning something new on this channel
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Robbi.
@ttzfer
@ttzfer 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid Alex, anxious to see it in a live setting.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm actually working on mounting the TP Power motor to the P2 blower right now. I have all the "hard to get" parts on hand too - particularly the belt and the pulley. Hopefully there will be a video of the whole setup running at least on low power in the next several days.
@tedorr5449
@tedorr5449 4 күн бұрын
Great video Alex!
@brad3378
@brad3378 2 жыл бұрын
I like the copper tubing idea
@alterdcustomrc4512
@alterdcustomrc4512 Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha love the start. Love the intro. I been following, the hobbywing max4 is a great esc. Right know im pushing a 1150kv 5870 on 10s without any issues. Also have a 2280 d3….different class of motor but you can defiantly get more boost with higher kv/ a little more amp draw. You put a lot of time and money so i’m not advising you to spend more. I have a tp 5670 cm 2510 6 pole you could test on 6s safely..spins to 47,000 under load(“8s rated motor” but no esc is capable of running the 6 pole motor’s to + 80,000rpms). I ran it with 10mm bullets. It’s a beast
@roboman2444
@roboman2444 2 жыл бұрын
Neat. I've been putting off getting a VESC since the usual ones cant handle much power, but the trampa stuff looks quality.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a nice piece.
@ebikeunlock
@ebikeunlock 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the vesc used for electric boost , if you need help , i can give you some hints !
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
Check out my most recent vid, where we power up the VESC/P2 e turbo for the first time. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
@jibbyjabby7499
@jibbyjabby7499 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the idea of electric turbo/superchargers. I don't have the expertise to make a kit myself and off the shelf kits in the UK are £2100 which is out of my reach but im hoping one day there will be a happy medium.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to Torqamp? Those are really only good for about 200 hp. This unit should be good for 600-650 hp (less on lower powered cars that want to run more boost - the boost/max output relationship has yet to be established). This setup would cost about $1,500 USD (sorry, no pound symbol on my keyboard) to reproduce without batteries if you DIY. Not that I'm suggesting you do so. And if you do, I'm not responsible for any harm. But if you do, the really nice thing about this setup is how flexible it is - it'll work just fine on 150 hp engines up to 500 hp engines.
@jibbyjabby7499
@jibbyjabby7499 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexLTDLX Hi,yes i was referring to torqamp. Your setup sounds fantastic but i don't feel im knowledgeable enough to partake such a thing.i only have a civic with a 1.6 vtec producing 110bhp and would be happy with something like a 50bhp brief boost for sure, nothing to crazy. I suppose i could fit a Nos kit for that and cheaper but i much prefer this idea. Really enjoy your videos and thank you for the reply.
@RaglansElectricBaboon
@RaglansElectricBaboon 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexLTDLX Awesome video and a great primer to the 'fun' of figuring VESC out. Thank you. I can't help but be a troll... 650HP? Is that all? Teslas can do that without the smelly and complicated squish bang expand exhausty bit :-P
@BH4x0r
@BH4x0r Жыл бұрын
​@@jibbyjabby7499 if you just add a motor in parallel to the engine as a sort of hybrid, the Trampa could easily give you a 20-25HP boost, and with improved low end torque if you gear it right
@KiteTurbine
@KiteTurbine Жыл бұрын
Run the FOC tune algorithm tabs They're the buttons sorta lower right of the screen in the FOC page
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX Жыл бұрын
Tried everything possible, under the tutelage of Frank at Trampa. Just not good at high power/high eRPM. If you look through my videos, I've given the VESC many, many tries.
@OctaneFever
@OctaneFever 2 жыл бұрын
Really want to see the results of this bolted to the new P2 supercharger. Hurrry up :) please
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
Belt for blower arrived today. Waiting on pulley for the motor... Doing my best.
@joblessalex
@joblessalex Жыл бұрын
Love how yours just works. Mine isn't.
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that. I think there's still work to be done before it can truly be considered ready for the public. But once it does get sorted, it should be a great tool because of all the data you can get out of it in real time.
@brandoncheaa
@brandoncheaa 7 ай бұрын
what is the connector called, the one for the power and ground red and black cable coming from the vesc?
@Rob94hawk
@Rob94hawk 2 жыл бұрын
“Choose your own adventure with a bad ending in every direction.” LMFAO!
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
I do wish there was a verified one-stop comprehensive set of instructions...
@mt-qw7yt
@mt-qw7yt 3 ай бұрын
how have you sliced the 3 wires from the vesc together? Obviously you have to join up the 3 power wires from the vesc and connect top the single power wires from battery / to motor. Be grateful to know how you did that. THanks
@embededfabrication4482
@embededfabrication4482 Жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with servo controller, it's either on or off, no incremental throttle supposed to be able to control it with the keyboard arrows too but it just sits there and grinds when I try that
@BH4x0r
@BH4x0r 7 ай бұрын
it depends, current control without any load will go max speed without any control, you need to use PID speed control or Duty Cycle control if you actually just wanna control the speed, but that way you need to be sure the rest is set up correctly cause it'll try to push all the power it can to its set limits i prefer current control for the sake of being able to control how much power/torque i feed maximally
@johnnydanger57
@johnnydanger57 2 жыл бұрын
No clue whatsoever what you described, but I do like horsepower!
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
Lol - that makes two of us - on both fronts! Perhaps that's why there's been so much fire in this electric turbo development... speaking of which, this controller will control a second, more streamlined and cheaper/easier to build unit than my first one. Thanks for posting and subscribing!
@johnnydanger57
@johnnydanger57 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexLTDLX This is some very cool stuff you are doing! So in-depth that I'm sure the electrical guys are enjoying it, and I am trying to understand some of it, but my old brain isn't "wired for it" (see how I did that...lol) Just can't wait for some more rolling footage!
@3phasetinkerer
@3phasetinkerer Жыл бұрын
Would it be able to handle low rpm high torque 3000w 75v bldc motor? I'm planning to build a large ugv that would carry couple of specimen :)
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that should be easy for it. But they do recommend staying around 63 volts; they're concerned about voltage spikes.
@flowstate5003
@flowstate5003 Жыл бұрын
At least this video reassures me ill be fine haha
@ThePunis-Her
@ThePunis-Her 2 ай бұрын
I have a flipsky pro v2 on a bafang. But it gives a hard punch to the motor at the bottom of the gas handle. It feels just like a punch u also hear it. Can i get this away by curving the voltage / amps?
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 ай бұрын
Probably. You could also make sure the control signal ramps up slowly if you can't do it in the VESC.
@dbolorkhuu
@dbolorkhuu 2 жыл бұрын
wow i was expecting something smoky
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Me too, tbh.
@psyorg1
@psyorg1 2 ай бұрын
Alex, plz model motor
@steezybuilds
@steezybuilds Жыл бұрын
what kind of battery is that?
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX Жыл бұрын
That's a Zeee 9,000 mah 4s pack. This is a two pack of these exact batteries: amzn.to/3T2TFmy , this is a single battery but with a deans connector (and a better price): amzn.to/3e8v9Bo
@sungurtigin7258
@sungurtigin7258 6 ай бұрын
brother how do you install that tool, its too complicated please help
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 6 ай бұрын
It's been a while; VESC is honestly problematic all around. I don't remember the install process, but I'm seeing the latest update is a bit difficult to install for others. It's disappointing; and I'm a bit annoyed I wasted that much money on it. It's not really a useable product.
@j.j.y8720
@j.j.y8720 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Do you know what ppm is?
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX Жыл бұрын
Yes - in this case it refers to the signal from an RC receiver or servo tester. Typically 50 hz, with a pulsewidth of 1-2ms. 1ms being throttle off (or full brake or reverse - depending on how you have the thing configured) and 2ms being full throttle.
@j.j.y8720
@j.j.y8720 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexLTDLX Do you know what device is connected to PPM Port? I am making EV Car with VESC 75/300 Controller, but I don't know how to use this.
@j.j.y8720
@j.j.y8720 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexLTDLX Additionally, Could you tell me model name of anti-spark switch that you used?
@mychalpstanton9188
@mychalpstanton9188 2 жыл бұрын
Wh u not castle xlx2 mine holds 600amp runs and only 260 $
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
Not enough voltage capability. I've already stepped back from 70 volts to 60 to accommodate available ESCs.
@imperialsecuritybureau6037
@imperialsecuritybureau6037 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexLTDLX you should check out the BESC G2 - an open source VESC variant, you order the PCBs yourself so you basically make it but it is beefy - 100V 400A… you can build it alternatively to handle 150V and 250A. And the best thing is it only costs about $200 I believe? It varies with the cost of the electronics.
@ryanhenry5730
@ryanhenry5730 2 жыл бұрын
Everything can be solved Blowing up controllers by going by how many cells are used ....... ridiculous blowing a controller
@nicod974
@nicod974 Жыл бұрын
Did you mention what plug you used to connect pc to vesc?
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX Жыл бұрын
It's a micro USB connector.
@williamzoom
@williamzoom 2 жыл бұрын
You read the manual, I bet you would ask for directions if you were lost also! )
@AlexLTDLX
@AlexLTDLX 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Yeah, I admit - I do ask for directions if I'm lost (and have no phone or service...)
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