ALIENS (1986) - 4K UHD BLU-RAY Review

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Oliver Harper

Oliver Harper

14 күн бұрын

My thoughts on the remaster of ALIENS in 4K.
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@duckhive
@duckhive 12 күн бұрын
"ALIENS is back! And this time.... IT'S FOR TEAL!"
@kubrickenigma7977
@kubrickenigma7977 12 күн бұрын
[soft clap]
@johnmellor932
@johnmellor932 12 күн бұрын
Quality.😂
@nx1379
@nx1379 11 күн бұрын
UHD quality zing😂
@SquidkidMega
@SquidkidMega 10 күн бұрын
Grain over man….grain over
@kubrickenigma7977
@kubrickenigma7977 10 күн бұрын
@@SquidkidMega [louder clap]
@movieatorfilms
@movieatorfilms 12 күн бұрын
The irony is they remove the grain just to eventually add the grain. The Alien 4K visually surpasses this in every way.
@jamesguy926
@jamesguy926 12 күн бұрын
I have the quadrilogy and anthology boxsets, but I don't think I'll make the jump to 4K releases anytime soon.
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r 12 күн бұрын
Its a real shame Cameron dropped the ball hard when it came to giving Aliens a proper 4K transfer. Instead of doing an actual restoration of an actual film print, he instead upscaled the old Blu Ray master, DNR'd it and AI sharpened it to hell, slapped some weak HDR on it and called it a day. If Alien can get a proper remaster, its no excuse for Aliens to not recieve the same treatment.
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 12 күн бұрын
Yeah its beyond lazy. Its almost bordering on stupid treatment of OG Star Wars films.
@johnmellor932
@johnmellor932 12 күн бұрын
To be honest as a film maker, if I had to keep revisiting a film I made 40 years ago I'd be sick to death of it by now too. Aliens had it's run and he probably just wants to move on, same with the Abyss. Aliens is known to be Cameron's least favourite film technically , he hated the film stock or something and how it printed.
@realshompa
@realshompa 12 күн бұрын
Let's hope for a private scan of a negative like the Star Wars 4K77.
@gasti_musri
@gasti_musri 12 күн бұрын
Aliens blu ray> 4k aliens
@revolverswitch
@revolverswitch 11 күн бұрын
he just hates film prints with a burning passion for some reason.
@chrisv9419
@chrisv9419 12 күн бұрын
I was fortunate to see it on 70MM on my 21st birthday back in 2019, I can definitely say the 4K version does not look like it’s theatrical counterpart.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 12 күн бұрын
I saw the original in cinema back in the 80s when everything was shot on film and it was great. Some of these high res versions lose that celluloid feel of film even though they are shot on film.
@ericstaples7220
@ericstaples7220 12 күн бұрын
That's because they denoised it with A.I. It at the very least has more detail than the old bluray that has film grain. So that is good.
@citizen3000
@citizen3000 12 күн бұрын
@@ericstaples7220 the previous one with film grain is better
@EP3mentalist
@EP3mentalist 12 күн бұрын
​@@ericstaples7220I got the Blu-ray set a couple of years ago, I thought the picture on Aliens was really good
@CianODonnell
@CianODonnell 6 күн бұрын
Me too in IFI theatre in Dublin years back with an introduction by Michael Biehn
@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough 12 күн бұрын
Just a shame this is what we gotten. 4K releases should be really better made in the end. Shame. Really sad to hear Oliver so negative about it. I had the same feelings with it. This is also the reason why I hardly upgrade from Bluray to 4K Bluray.
@Oneaphelion
@Oneaphelion 12 күн бұрын
Anthology bud, best its gonna get.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 12 күн бұрын
That's cause the original never had that resolution so it uses digital enhancements but it loses that celluloid feel. But the picture looks pretty good but maybe we remember it nostalgically?
@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough 12 күн бұрын
@@jonfreeman9682 You do know that full 35mm frame would have 5400 x 3600 pixels, right?
@bonjovi7399
@bonjovi7399 11 күн бұрын
@@Slashingthrough People think "analogue old analogue bad" for some reason
@Neverfate
@Neverfate 12 күн бұрын
I'll stick with my 2010 blu ray or quadrilogy DVD
@MichaelLaing71
@MichaelLaing71 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for the review. Whilst I understand James Cameron wanting to tinker with his films, I do think that a lot of the time, directors, editors, colour editors, do get caught up in the hype of a product, and think they have to turn up everything to eleven. We see this so often with films, particularly with HDR, with films like 2001: A Space Odyssey, and Akira just over doing everything. I work as a photographer and one of the biggest things I have learnt over 20+ years, is that you don't have to use every tool you have, particularly in post processing. This is one of the hardest lessons to learn as you always want to show how good you are, but often it backfires.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 12 күн бұрын
George Lucas did the same thing. He went back and improved a few things as digital technology weren't available at the time and some fans didn't like it but it's an improvement but feels off for fans who remember the original. Directors who are passionate about their projects is what makes it so great so it's understandable they want to go back use modern tech to spice up their classics. IMO the first 3 aliens are masterpiece in space horror and the little enhancements are just nice touches to what is already brilliant works of art.
@bonjovi7399
@bonjovi7399 11 күн бұрын
@@jonfreeman9682 THX 1138 improvements are pretty good becasue they blend in more. Apart from the shot of a CGI animal that appears midway through the film. Same with Empire Strikes back. Little touches to expand sets. It's when they start to add things that just don't fit like plastic looking CGI aliens
@THEremiXFACTOR
@THEremiXFACTOR 7 күн бұрын
I think also they're desperate to pander to younger modern audiences, by making it look like it was shot digitally last week. They needlessly seem to want to update the film so it fits in with new releases.
@SamsChannelOfficial
@SamsChannelOfficial 12 күн бұрын
Glad you covered the previous releases in such technical detail and relieved to see a more sceptical response to this one. Compare a CU of Jonesy from the BluRay with the same shot in the 4k. So much detail in his fur that was baked into the grain on the 35mm print has been zapped. Using AI upscaling literally means the PC is making guess work of details. Not my cup of tea.
@ailigimmo9668
@ailigimmo9668 12 күн бұрын
Glad You included A3 as well....perfect trilogy in my opinion :)
@personatodo
@personatodo 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for clarifying the reduced detail on the faces. Many blu-ray reviewers on KZfaq seem to dodge this issue or outright deny it when you tell them. I felt they're all paid by Disney to give a glowing review.
@ApolloT-vp5dn
@ApolloT-vp5dn 11 күн бұрын
Reduced? The detail is significantly improved on the 4K
@personatodo
@personatodo 11 күн бұрын
@@ApolloT-vp5dn yes there are artificially enhanced details but some of the faces in the medium shots is softer than the original blu-ray. This video has already proven that. Don't deny it.
@ApolloT-vp5dn
@ApolloT-vp5dn 11 күн бұрын
@@personatodo This video didn't prove anything. There's just as many videos showing the detail to be enhanced. Having watched the Aliens 4K disc this week, it looks fantastic and it's the best the film has ever looked.
@ZZhang-qf5wo
@ZZhang-qf5wo 11 күн бұрын
@@personatodonot all improvement is artificial. The blu-ray version by itself downscaled the scan, and a lot of details were missing in blu-ray.
@personatodo
@personatodo 11 күн бұрын
@@ZZhang-qf5wo In the case of Aliens it is. The use the A.I upscale technology by Peter Jackson's team and it resulted in soft faces in some shots and in the worst case like True Lies the depth of field gone haywire because it can't determine between motion blurring and out of focus background and characters. The only movie that works well is actually The Abyss which is the best of the 3 transfers. You want real filmic quality and detail on the blacks, look no further than the first Alien in 4K. I watched it recently in the cinema and it's gorgeous, retaining the filmic quality and super fine grain.
@OSW
@OSW 7 күн бұрын
Omg, i just watched your True Lies vid and asked for a comparison/buying guide, and that's exactly what this is! Thank you! Super helpful
@George_M_
@George_M_ 12 күн бұрын
Damnit James, everything doesn't have to be teal.
@Nicholas_Chen_
@Nicholas_Chen_ 12 күн бұрын
He can’t help it it’s a habit by now.
@ghostviggen
@ghostviggen 11 күн бұрын
Abyss was very teal on film.
@konstantinoskaragiannis1596
@konstantinoskaragiannis1596 11 күн бұрын
"Aliens"(1986) is an action horror sci-fi movie masterpiece!This is probably the best movie of all time for this Kind!
@2010vintagesandwichenjoyer
@2010vintagesandwichenjoyer 12 күн бұрын
BR of aliens still looks great in my opinion so i will hold on to it
@kyoto5
@kyoto5 12 күн бұрын
Wow, thanks Oliver for your 4K review. I'm sticking with my blu ray version. You just saved me some money!!!
@ApolloT-vp5dn
@ApolloT-vp5dn 11 күн бұрын
He's wrong though
@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984
@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984 12 күн бұрын
A very concise and well said review. I'll stick by what I said about the Blu-Ray release over this 4K Hybrid version. True Lies had issues from the past, but I was less than impressed by the overall look of the film. Aliens has been revised to such an extent with the application of new A.I. tools that you can't ignore the elephant in the room. Unfortunately many people are ignorant and prefer riding the wave that this upscaled 4K Hybrid is an improvement when Aliens certainly isn't an improvement. This is a regression backward with film restoration. Hollywood is pushing hard with this technology, and Cameron plays along to promote this abhorrent technology. Now the flood gates will be opening to past films having the same techniques applied. Shocking! But don't tell that to the dumb asses who buy into this.
@pacershark452
@pacershark452 12 күн бұрын
5:12 THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I have been saying for YEARS that NO STUDIO shoots their movies in 4K@60fps. It's TOO expensive and uses TOO much storage space. In addition, even in 2024 it take's ENORMOUS computer power and TIME to render CGI at that resolution. The point is that 4K UHD is FALSE ADVERTISMENT.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 12 күн бұрын
It's upscaled with enhancements. Not sure if you notice any difference though as I kinda prefer the old celluloid look.
@pacershark452
@pacershark452 12 күн бұрын
@@jonfreeman9682 Agreed. I do too. What Annoys me is that the studios are killing Physical media before we got a PURE 4K@30/60fps release of a good action film. my DEEPER suspicion is that they will do VERY limited releases in the future of that very thing, and charge an arm and a leg for for it. Not only that, but streaming PURE 4K films will cost us a EVEN MORE that regular films in data plans. What a mess.....
@jakedizzle
@jakedizzle 12 күн бұрын
@@pacershark452They’ll just go through smaller companies like shout factory.
@thermonuclearcollider4418
@thermonuclearcollider4418 12 күн бұрын
Cinematographer here. Movies these days are not shot at 48\50\60fps (save for slow-motion shots), but they are shot in 4K and even higher resolutions (5K, 6K, 7K, 8K). For about 15 years the standard for mastering has been 2K, but in the past 5\6 years more and more productions have been switching to 4K delivery. So, no, it's not false advertisement per se. The problem is that it's not that easy to see the benefit from that increase in resolution, wether you're watching the movie in a theater or at home, as the human eye cannot see a very high amount of detail from afar.
@pacershark452
@pacershark452 12 күн бұрын
@@thermonuclearcollider4418 Ok, This is partially MY fault because I should have been clearer. Indie movies, romantic comedies and short films could be shot in 4K and higher because the overhead to process movies like that would be within striking distance. But i DO NOT believe a big studio is going to spend the money it would take to shoot a MASSIVE blockbuster in true native 4K with all the CGI trimmings in matching resolution. Much less 5,6,7 & 8K. 8K?! Are you INSANE?!?! Not even APPLE would pay for something like that, much LESS have the hardware to process it and they're a trillion dollar company. And look; I'm not saying I KNOW, im just saying I don't BELIEVE it based on the cost/benefit analysis I'VE seen. But if you're in the industry and you're seeing it for yourself, then that's what it is.
@bened22
@bened22 12 күн бұрын
I fully agree! I would have been very happy with an actual restauration of the original negative, with image problems and all. Is the original image soft and grainy? Great, I'll take it! I want to have the experience of somebody in the cinema in 1986 just with the advantage of modern digital distribution so I can see all details of the master and stay at home. That's 4K for me.
@markevayne
@markevayne 12 күн бұрын
Were you aware that you have released this on Alien day lv426! 26th April, bravo 👏
@dnasty312
@dnasty312 12 күн бұрын
My best friend and I are going to _Alien_ tonight!
@markevayne
@markevayne 12 күн бұрын
Have a wonderful time, jealous 😅​@@dnasty312
@Right_Said_Brett
@Right_Said_Brett 4 күн бұрын
That would be 264 in the UK.
@markholohan4446
@markholohan4446 12 күн бұрын
Great to see that you and I agree about how Aliens looking rough and ready. Its supposed to grainy.
@garyharper2943
@garyharper2943 12 күн бұрын
Decided to stay with the Blu-ray on this one…too bad.
@Pewpewpew182
@Pewpewpew182 12 күн бұрын
Very happy with this purchase. I felt like this was the best of the 4K release from Cameron.
@wdunn06
@wdunn06 12 күн бұрын
Agreed
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r 12 күн бұрын
Its the "best" until you start looking on closer inspection. Once you start noticing the problems its hard to say you paid your money's worth with this transfer.
@ApolloT-vp5dn
@ApolloT-vp5dn 11 күн бұрын
​@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9rWhy do I need a closer inspection? You're over analysing
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r 11 күн бұрын
@@ApolloT-vp5dn Because if you look closer you'll notice the bad noise reduction and waxy faces. Not worth the 55 dollars bud
@ApolloT-vp5dn
@ApolloT-vp5dn 11 күн бұрын
@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r None of which is evident whatsoever. You're talking nonsense.
@RussellB
@RussellB 12 күн бұрын
I wish they'd take all the noise reduction money and put it into punching up the dropship crash rear projection scene. It's so effective, just a little contrast change on the background would make it blend in so much better.
@retroworld8090
@retroworld8090 11 күн бұрын
This is probably Cameron's best film. It's a tragedy it was treated this way.
@ofgs2
@ofgs2 12 күн бұрын
Also - wow - in those completely untouched clips the purple lighting looks amazing! And James Cameron *doesn’t* want that look??
@AleksandarBloom
@AleksandarBloom 12 күн бұрын
Purple looks abysmal. It looks like a tv movie.
@STTPMASFTNE
@STTPMASFTNE 12 күн бұрын
I agree. The original 35mm print looks fantastic in terms of color. Love the purples and dark blues. No idea how Cameron thinks teal looks better than that.
@jackmalloy2869
@jackmalloy2869 12 күн бұрын
The purple-blue colours from 35mm looks amazing💙💜 8:51
@rocknrollkid90
@rocknrollkid90 12 күн бұрын
Disney should recall the 4K-UHD, Blu-ray releases of both, “Aliens” and “True Lies,” so they could fix their original, film quality with grainy, HDR.
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 12 күн бұрын
Another reviewer says that the movie has grain. It's just super fine
@catfishhornet
@catfishhornet 12 күн бұрын
They are not recalling sh*t because it's a subjective transfer, not a technical error. You might dislike it, some people love it. Disney just can't cater to everybody. The only person they can cater to is James Cameron...obviously, this is how he wants his film to be seen, and fans and reviewers that hate the transfer will just continue crying forever since this is the last physical release we will see of this movie.
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r 12 күн бұрын
@@catfishhornetI mean is it wrong that we have criticisms about the look? This is Aliens after all
@BornslippyZ
@BornslippyZ 12 күн бұрын
Disney is in the middle of transferring the disc duties to Sony. Which imo is a good thing.
@realshompa
@realshompa 12 күн бұрын
just wait for the 8K transfers.....
@loftlegacy
@loftlegacy 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for your honest, as always, review. I did buy True Lies on 4K and had a laugh of some of waxiness. Owning Aliens on Blu-Ray I think I'll stick with it.
@newtypepunk9967
@newtypepunk9967 12 күн бұрын
Gawd I hate when they change the tint colours, this happened with Batman and Terminator, I'm like I might as well put my VHS on at this point, just keep it pure to how it was, funny I'd rather watch the laser disc version you showed, over the 4k version, you're spot on about the faces, meh I have the quad blu rays thats good enough for me.
@TheRubberStudiosASMR
@TheRubberStudiosASMR 12 күн бұрын
Wow, I'd love to see how it was originally presented. Hopefully one day when they have exhausted making films looking pristine they should release the original raw releases.
@jimofthenorth8090
@jimofthenorth8090 12 күн бұрын
You perfectly highlight my annoyance with all these 4k re-releases and that's the outcome of making it all look digital. To me that just makes it look like CGI. The shot of the lander flying over the colony looked terrible. Its just too clean.
@jamiejoe4802
@jamiejoe4802 12 күн бұрын
The best 4k remasters are Robocop (it still has film grain and looks phenominal) The Running man (has film grain yet it looks like it was shot yesterday, the deep reds give off an A24 vibe and adds a new layer to the atmosphere) Dawn of Justice
@ifnotyouthenwho
@ifnotyouthenwho 12 күн бұрын
Love your channel. And your content. This is the greatest film of all time.
@ifnotyouthenwho
@ifnotyouthenwho 12 күн бұрын
I watched it in two vhs sittings when I was 13/14. I couldn't watch passed the arrival at Harley's... It absolutely ruined my sleep for weeks.
@idiot_city5244
@idiot_city5244 12 күн бұрын
Doesn't even come close to the original haha, get real
@jakebiomask
@jakebiomask 12 күн бұрын
Bollocks ​@@idiot_city5244
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 12 күн бұрын
Totally agree. IMO the first 3 aliens are masterpiece including David Fincher epic conclusion that deserve more love.
@user-le4sm4wd1e
@user-le4sm4wd1e 12 күн бұрын
I'm still on the fence,, some of the images of the 4K do look atrocious but I suppose the only way I can really judge it is if I experience it myself. I will wait for a price drop. Thank you for your honesty.
@ApolloT-vp5dn
@ApolloT-vp5dn 11 күн бұрын
Looks great in motion to me. How often do you watch a movie in still images?
@user-le4sm4wd1e
@user-le4sm4wd1e 11 күн бұрын
@@ApolloT-vp5dn A fair point but any waxyness of skin and mainly the general lightning of the film image puts me off. I will purchase it at some point and hope that my fears are put to rest. 👊
@deathdoor
@deathdoor 12 күн бұрын
This must be some sinister conspiracy, because nothing explains why these people think worsening the picture is better. I can't think of any other reason and it makes me scared.
@dragondaveltd1992
@dragondaveltd1992 12 күн бұрын
#SupportPhysicalMedia
@jasonotoole1822
@jasonotoole1822 12 күн бұрын
I've just bought the 4K Blu-ray as I'm a huge fan of the movie and definitely love my physical media. It still looks good to me in 4K and I really appreciate the way you have compared the different versions of the movie in your review.
@citizen3000
@citizen3000 12 күн бұрын
That new box art is awful. What an eyesore.
@Oneaphelion
@Oneaphelion 12 күн бұрын
not even hot garbage, its just trash
@seanrawlinson
@seanrawlinson 9 күн бұрын
People need to stop calling this a new transfer. This is the same transfer done in 2010 for the 1080p blu-ray. It is pixel-for-pixel the exact same image, only upscaled and DNR’d again after it was done on the 2010 2K transfer.
@ImmortalRimas
@ImmortalRimas 12 күн бұрын
I can imagine there might be more physical releases in the future. They’ll probably be one Alien 4K box set collection & maybe one more in 4K on a physical format the size of a GameCube disc before that dystopian all digital future where we own nothing and we have to like it that way and bow down to our megacorporate overlords!🤣
@freelancer2011
@freelancer2011 6 күн бұрын
What kills me is that the colony in 'Aliens: Dark Descent' also went for teal, too! 😂
@SkankHunt3000
@SkankHunt3000 12 күн бұрын
Your commentaries help me fall asleep every night dude. Love your channel Please one day give us a deep dive into my favorite show Star Trek the next generation
@edrooney1967
@edrooney1967 12 күн бұрын
Very good review reflecting my thoughts almost completely. 👍If we had a choice between Cameron's new preferred version and a version that's true to the original I wouldn't complain but this is (technical) revisionism - the opposite of film preservation.
@dvdmike007
@dvdmike007 10 күн бұрын
The AC-3 disc is the best looking by miles, mind you seeing the 70mm print it looked nothing like the 4k or BD
@trevorml1362
@trevorml1362 12 күн бұрын
How long before we get AI-generated reviews of AI-generated movies?
@nathanworthington4451
@nathanworthington4451 12 күн бұрын
Said Disney
@alienboy1322
@alienboy1322 12 күн бұрын
Oh god, I hope that never happens.
@pineapplesand556ers
@pineapplesand556ers 12 күн бұрын
And being watched by AI.
@markusvesa2763
@markusvesa2763 12 күн бұрын
Never, i hope.
@alienboy1322
@alienboy1322 12 күн бұрын
@@markusvesa2763 Here here.
@BigJwlz
@BigJwlz 11 күн бұрын
04:09 Thanks for posting images from the 35mm film print. The color saturation is stronger on film in my opinion.
@CoinOpTV
@CoinOpTV 12 күн бұрын
such a classic - looking forward to revisiting this on 4K
@mickbanner
@mickbanner 12 күн бұрын
I always thought Aliens was a really dirty transfer (where Alien felt cleaner) Not sure if it was just my VHS. Anything updated 2010 onwards is welcomed
@rickbrookes9491
@rickbrookes9491 10 күн бұрын
It’s really cool and the only time I’ve seen a comparison to the original 35mm! I really like when movies are restored to what they looked like in original 35mm, but completely changing the look does bother me… instead of restoration, it’s changing how the film looks.
@SamM_Scot
@SamM_Scot 12 күн бұрын
The Abyss seems like the best transfer outta the three new 4K releases :-)
@snappycattimesten
@snappycattimesten 12 күн бұрын
Game over man. Game over!
@bennygerow
@bennygerow 12 күн бұрын
Always appreciate your thoughts on films.
@skeletorrobo
@skeletorrobo 12 күн бұрын
Watched it in the cinema in '86. I recently got the cinematic release dvd. Still chuffed. Great review.
@jonfreeman9682
@jonfreeman9682 12 күн бұрын
Same. To me it's the greatest space sci-fi horror of all time even to this day. I was amazed when I saw it back then in cinema and still now there's nothing that comes close. IMO the first 3 aliens are masterpiece of cinema including David Fincher epic conclusion which deserves more love.
@OldTime--Gamer
@OldTime--Gamer 12 күн бұрын
I saw lots of people having the movie on streaming services complain about wax faces and smudges while the DVD 4k has still that super nice grainy effect. The only complaint i have is the BASS its like stripped almost i had to increase the bASS level of my subwoofer to the max ! BUt the audio is SUPERB !
@ryanmaddugal8059
@ryanmaddugal8059 12 күн бұрын
0:55 "Aliens was a big hit back in *1996* " Wait you meant to say, 1986 right?
@realshompa
@realshompa 12 күн бұрын
The sad thing for us who use digital stores. The 2K version has been "upgraded" to the 4K version.
@miltontavares9506
@miltontavares9506 11 күн бұрын
I m still happy with my Definitive Edition on DVD.
@MosesWine
@MosesWine 12 күн бұрын
This is like a DFIC review in 10 minutes 😂. I am super curious about the 4.1 and 2.0 audio mixes. Do we know if those are included with the 1080p presentation in the new set? Is the 1080p the new or previous transfer.
@WillisWheeler
@WillisWheeler 12 күн бұрын
I just got the 4K it looks amazing , I was running it on a ps5 , the only thing I will dig it for is when the rear projection shot are used in the movie
@THEremiXFACTOR
@THEremiXFACTOR 7 күн бұрын
8:51 My god, the 35mm colour grading is so cool. The 4k looks like it was shot in a swimming pool. I've heard various arguments about this release, but seeing these image comparisons here it's clear how flat and digital the new image looks. I can see why people are pissed off.
@Kazimation
@Kazimation 8 күн бұрын
Really clear and concise presentation, I've subscribed! Watched Aliens in 35mm cinema print which was nostalgic and amazing, I don't see anything beating that experience. In terms of a home entertainment version, I only have the DVD from the Quadrilogy, so I'll defo be upgrading to the 4K regardless of any bad opinions or reviews. Thanks for the heads up.
@Ruination87
@Ruination87 12 күн бұрын
Oliver dropping this review a day after my copy was shipped out :(
@davidnicholls5303
@davidnicholls5303 11 күн бұрын
If it isn't broke, don't fix it
@concordhifi
@concordhifi 8 күн бұрын
As an audio and movie enthusiast, I was really wondering about this release. As I found the 30th Anniversary edition was a great transfer. Great review, well done.
@Pieman29666
@Pieman29666 12 күн бұрын
Idk, looked amazing to me tbh...
@ApolloT-vp5dn
@ApolloT-vp5dn 11 күн бұрын
​@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r Step outside your echo chamber
@ApolloT-vp5dn
@ApolloT-vp5dn 11 күн бұрын
Yup... the film looked fantastic in 4K
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r 11 күн бұрын
Its a waxy and oversharpened mess of a transfer. Not worth the price at all
@ApolloT-vp5dn
@ApolloT-vp5dn 11 күн бұрын
@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r Only if you haven't watched it. Which you clearly didn't.
@longann7560
@longann7560 11 күн бұрын
3 GODDAM CLASSICS !! FINALLY ! Althoug I totally agree that Abyss is the holy grail here !
@oranmccann2476
@oranmccann2476 12 күн бұрын
Even to this day I still own the Alien Quadrillogy box set. I honestly prefer it over any 4K
@tomole79
@tomole79 12 күн бұрын
Same. As far as the documentaries like Superior Firepower go I prefer the Quadrilogy DVDs to the Bluray transfer. They were resized from the 4:3 DVD aspect ratio to 16:9 which makes some of the shots look like zoomed in
@oranmccann2476
@oranmccann2476 12 күн бұрын
@tomole79 While I admit Blu-Ray does have its benefits, I always prefer DVDs because of the authentic quality. I also liked that on the DVD, the documentary is split up into individual chapters, so it is easier to watch
@edbaiza7757
@edbaiza7757 11 күн бұрын
Amen Oran!!!!!!!!!
@oranmccann2476
@oranmccann2476 11 күн бұрын
@@edbaiza7757 Thanks
@catochagen
@catochagen 3 күн бұрын
I’ve seen Aliens many times. VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray and Streaming. Honestly, though, I thought the 4K disc was pretty good and my new favorite transfer. The details and sharpness in certain scenes are unmatched. Is it as good as Alien on 4K? No, but then again, that transfer is a work of art and one of the best restorations ever made. Still, I think most people will be happy with Aliens on 4K.👍🏻
@daveruda
@daveruda 7 күн бұрын
The 35mm color and contrast looks better than anything on these digital formats. The bluray is really nice thou...just wish it could be adjusted a bit towards the 35mm look..
@DarkoFitCoach
@DarkoFitCoach 12 күн бұрын
Alien 1979 in cinema this weekend. Oh yeah!
@ApustajaGearSolid
@ApustajaGearSolid 12 күн бұрын
I might be in the minority, but I much prefer the theatrical cut of Aliens. Seeing the colony before the Marines arrived just ruins the atmosphere of the film.
@ofgs2
@ofgs2 12 күн бұрын
I recently re-watched my Blu Ray copy of Aliens just a few months ago and remember thinking to myself “wow, this looks really good!” It’s so strange to think even in the commentary track Cameron made (in 2003?) he comments on how heavy the grain was, while I think in the Blu Ray the grain looks perfect. So I guess James Cameron has always hated film grain and will stop at nothing to remove it all. Which is a shame, because a clean digital image just feels to sterile and soulless to me. Also I have to wonder if all this “AI” talk is just buzz words? How are these AI tools any different to sharpening and noise/grain reduction techniques in the past?
@saintmanuel
@saintmanuel 12 күн бұрын
I think that ever since JC started with Avatar, he lost a bit of traditional cinematic feel of 35mm film. Looking at some of the examples from the UHD BluRay as well as knowing the DVD and BluRay, the treatment Aliens got now, is a bit too much. Like you said, it looks as if it was shot with a digital cinema camera, but lost some of its charme and organic quality. I am not against a better color grading for remasters, but noise reduction etc. is too much for my taste
@rickytoddbotelho9555
@rickytoddbotelho9555 12 күн бұрын
Never get enough of this one 😂❤👽🥶
@SoggyDonuts79
@SoggyDonuts79 11 күн бұрын
This whole tampering with the color started with the Wachowski brothers and making The Matrix look green like parts two and three instead of the original blue
@ericstaples7220
@ericstaples7220 12 күн бұрын
I want to get the new 4K upgrade, but should I also get the old 2010 bluray? I wonder how the 2K bluray that comes with the new release compares to the old.
@jimmijames8929
@jimmijames8929 8 күн бұрын
It'd be good if you noted what type of screen you watched this on. I loved watching this on my 4K Oled, especially the optical effects that look so much better on the 4K. They always pulled me out on the bluray. I still own the Bluray but I'm going with JC on this one. Appreciate the review though.
@byronlaw6491
@byronlaw6491 12 күн бұрын
Great review. Saved me £50 with this and the True Lies one.
@MrHhoommeerr
@MrHhoommeerr 12 күн бұрын
Laser disc, lol. But I agree with you 4K version looks too clean. I have seen Alien in 35mm a few times at the New Beverly Cinema.
@alfredwinterbottom1588
@alfredwinterbottom1588 8 күн бұрын
Cameron believes that part of archiving his work is to keep it relevant to 'modern' audiences. That means giving it that digitally shot look. With Lucas it was inserting CGI effects. A nightmare for cinephiles and fans of the film, but probably will play well to future audiences streaming it in 2035. Just stick to the 1080p blu-ray. The original purple colour grading would have been interesting to see.
@TheSuperCenaFan
@TheSuperCenaFan 12 күн бұрын
I was just just watching your Alien Resurrection review and noticed this on my recommended page. Funny coincidence.
@imranahmad2733
@imranahmad2733 12 күн бұрын
Was looking forward to this release but it sounds like the first release to T2 on 4K, hopefully they remedy it on a subsequent release, didn't like the waxy look on the 1st gen T2 4K transfer.
@MarleneSB
@MarleneSB 10 күн бұрын
Way to kind and respectful. Cameron needs a man behind him saying 'you are just a man' because this is a emperor's new clothes situation, that AI upscale looks terrible, simply awful. Having played about with AI upscaling its almost comical, I'd have written it off at a test phase, let alone a full render, let alone publicly releasing it. Thanks for the warning tho!
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 9 күн бұрын
I actually liked the 4K release overall. Yes, there were a few scenes that had noticeably waxy faces. But there were more scenes where the textures were much more defined. My only real gripe with the transfer is the brightness level. It's frustrating because I think the Blu-Ray was too dark and muddy. But now it is on the other end of the spectrum. That said, I think I like this version the best. There simply is no perfect version. The most accurate was probably the DVD, but then you are limited to DVD resolution and DVD sound.
@CianODonnell
@CianODonnell 6 күн бұрын
I honestly think with older and granier films like this that werent obviously shot on digital at the time, the previous home releases have already squeezed about as much as they can out of the picture with the resources available. If you want the latest Marvel films in pristine 4k then knock yourself out.
@delgrady10
@delgrady10 12 күн бұрын
I love the OCP opening
@Gus_Magnus
@Gus_Magnus 11 күн бұрын
I watched Alien and Aliens Blu-ray about 3 weeks ago. I enjoyed it a lot. It's been so long since I've seen those movies, it was like watching it fresh. James Cameron will always be my favorite director. I had a good laugh when Sgt. Apone was like "YOU KNOW THE DRILL, A$$HOLES AND ELBOWS....HUDSON, CMERE....COME HEREEEEE" 😂🤣Took me back to my boot camp days.
@jameswilliams-zr8co
@jameswilliams-zr8co 11 күн бұрын
they need to re release aliens back in theaters.. like they just did with alien
@skellan34
@skellan34 12 күн бұрын
Personally i think it's a waste of time 4k is over rated in my opinion . I am not buying the same movie over and over again for a slight difference in the colour of someone's face
@HighHouseDark_
@HighHouseDark_ 12 күн бұрын
When you go from 1080p blu ray on an lcd/led screen to 4k on an oled with hdr there is a big difference.
@ghostviggen
@ghostviggen 11 күн бұрын
After watching 35mm scans of Aliens, I can say that no release manage to recreate the theatrical look of Aliens. It’s just to bright.
@mattkendzior
@mattkendzior 12 күн бұрын
Happy Alien Day! Love the review. Thanks!
@GrandSlamSilver
@GrandSlamSilver 3 күн бұрын
4:06 - when can we see the original colour scheme?
@entertainmentwizard2703
@entertainmentwizard2703 12 күн бұрын
Great Review!
@Blankford777
@Blankford777 9 күн бұрын
Blu-ray Quadrilogy FTW!
@BlueScarabGuy
@BlueScarabGuy 11 күн бұрын
I had the same experience you did, having seen the first ALIEN several times on different formats and yet still being blown away by the 4K. I had just gotten a 4K TV, and even though I'd liked the improvements I'd seen in newer movies and games, it was ALIEN that truly sold me on the 4K format, it was like seeing it for the first time again. So you can imagine how disappointed I am that ALIENS isn't worth the upgrade. Side by side, yeah, it just looks like the existing Blu-ray but brighter and less textured. And I actually really LIKE the texture of the Blu-ray, my only issue with it is the extremely different color grade. Like, even the Lord of the Rings Extended Edition Blus weren't that heavily tinted. Still, I was hoping that maybe Cameron would see the light and change the grade back to its theatrical presentation for this release, like LotR more or less did. Unfortunately, looks like he doubled down instead. Oh well. At least THE ABYSS looks great! But then again, only people who saw it in a theater in 1989 know what it was actually supposed to look like, huh?
@ghostviggen
@ghostviggen 11 күн бұрын
There are filmscan of both films online. Abyss is very close, Aliens is not.
@NickyMetropolis1313
@NickyMetropolis1313 11 күн бұрын
Batman 89, Aliens etc what else is part of the teal collection
@ghostviggen
@ghostviggen 11 күн бұрын
From what I can see if 35mm scans. Batman had a teal look in many scenes on 35mm.
@mrmrgaming
@mrmrgaming 12 күн бұрын
I really like the 4k, but, as soon as there is the slower/less action shots of faces, you do see the "Fine line wrinkles are there.....gone again, oh and back again" I think the perfect release would be the 4k, but just ease off 30/40% on the DNR.
@craigamore2319
@craigamore2319 10 күн бұрын
I love the Taylor pick. It has been common knowledge for a while that this draft, starting in the fourth round, dropped off in talent dramatically. Poles himself said so. Before the fifth round trade, this was their last pick, and to walk away with the best player on the drafte at his position is a steal. Ultimately, from fuve picks, you get three starters. That's a solid return.
@kevinweithers1223
@kevinweithers1223 9 күн бұрын
Amazing review, thank you.
@palmspar
@palmspar 10 күн бұрын
I have the dvd, blu ray and the 4k of Aliens, i think the normal blu ray has the best look overall and sounds better then the atmos track on the 4k disk. I like also the 4k version its a clean sharp picture, but i think it could be done better with more effort. Maybe the grainy look of the blu ray with 4000 nits hdr is the best version of all, if that exist.
@decadentdave
@decadentdave 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for your honest review. I’ve seen so many positive glowing reviews praising it and saying the negative criticism is unwarranted but the AI color grading looks like shit. The cyan hues are awful. I want it to look like it did when I saw it in theaters in 1986 color hues and film grain. This is digital manipulation. Cameron needs to stop messing with his films like Lucas. Every change just keeps ruining the experience.
@michael_dalessandro_lena
@michael_dalessandro_lena 11 күн бұрын
The 1080 blu ray looks the best!
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