I took the easy way out and got the whole kit, servos and all. It worked great that way.

It is a little bigger, I have the actual size in the review on my site. the big thing for me was learning to fly closer to me. the size difference helps some but forcing myself to fly closer is what fixed my "see it" problems.

Tail gain has to be tuned to YOUR setup. He may use different throttle curves/ pitch curves, so his values may not help you, as torque loading may change between your 470 and his. Also, you need independent tail gain values for each flight mode, cause torque load changes. If its a hard quick hunt, gain is too high. If its a lazy wag, gain is too low. Get tail hold close in a hover, then do some hard pitch pumps, high bank angle turns in fast foward flight... Your gonna have to adjust bit by bit until the tail holds across the flight envelope. And as stated above, you gotta do this process for each flight mode. Also your gain value will decrease as headspeed increases.

The 470 is certainly bigger and while easier to see (stay oriented) it flies "bigger" as well. It is noticeably more stable than the 450 in the same conditions. I sold mine to a guy who is rather new to helicopters and he is doing well with it, surprised at how much easier it is to fly than his smaller heli's.

Never had a tail issue with the 470. That usually comes from a gain setting that the heli doesn't like. There should be instructions for dialing in the gain in the manual. It takes some trial and error.

@@flyingrcdotnet Thanks. God bless you sir. You are so polite answering so quickly☺

I've not had a 450 next to the 470 but from memory, this is quite a bit larger than my 450 when I had that. The bigger rotor disk is way important to how it flies and makes it fly like a much bigger heli.

Its a really nice helicopter. My first real rc heli (besides a small xk k124) My first build and setup aswell. It went together well and flys good. You will love it.

Align lists this heli as "6 channel or more" so it can be done with 6 channels, easier with a bigger channel count

@@flyingrcdotnet what is the 7th or 8th channel used for?

Absolutely. I recently sold it to a friend as I needed to reduce the load on the rc budget but the Align 470 remained a great flier and one of those I wish could have kept. The cash demands of running my site mean I have to turn models into cash to help fund the next review.

What flying field are you talking about?

RC wingers club in mooresville nc , I use to fly up in statesville flyers years back . I been out of flying for a while, Getting back into flying planes, Helicopters, I also have a M41 Traxxas Boat.

Yes, RC Wingers is still very active. check out the web site at rcwingers.com for more info on joining

Thanks, I'll check it out. Great info on the 470 LM

so which one you got? :)