Day 23 of 30! Hope this helped clear some stuff about hills and hill bonuses. 1 week left for april!

Hera turned into SoTL, SoTL turned into a caster. I'd make a joke here, but tbh it's great to see people in aoe2 community stepping out of their comfort zones.

I learned 2 things. The mangonel trick and that the hill bonus don't apply to building vs building. Thanks Hera

I really would love to see a "How to mangonel". I always end up losing Mango fights and just never use them. Same goes for monkas.

VIVI in 2018 : I NO PIG SOTL in 2020 : I NO JOB

The full difference becomes 125/75 = 1.666 or +66.6%. As far as bonuses go, that is a big difference. Take an archer for example. With 4 base attack, adding fletching, bodkin, and bracer gives +3 attack. So a base archer versus a fully upgraded archer is 7/4 = 1.75 or +75%. Fighting with a hill bonus is nearly the same as all three upgrades.

Also with buildings; it's very important to build defenses on hills as that'll greatly reduce trebuchet damage!

I've never watched your vids before. You're an excellent teacher. Very simple and clear explanation, even more impressive as English is not your first language. Thanks much appreciated.

the deleted mangonel killed the other mangonel on the hill because her spirit was on its way to heaven, being at an even higher ground

now t90 just needs to become a pro and its gone full circle

Awesome content, most interesting of course was the delete Mangonel thing.

I didn't know tower vs tower had no hill bonus. Totally worth the video!!!!!!

I love this Hera of the Law videos

Watch out Spirit of the Law! Hera is coming for you, brother!

Hera of the law!

Hi, Spirit :D One question - I've many casters and players complain from the pathing in DE. What exactly is worse compared to the previous patches?

Hera you missed one scenario: Do units apply less damage when attacking a building uphill (and more when downhill?)

The snowball effect you mentioned is "Lanchester's square law". Spirit of the Law made an awesome video analyzing it.

Spirit of the Hera

Hera of the Law :D love it!!!

I'm pretty sure that the towers do 1 damage when fighting on hills because they have 5 attack and 7 pierce armour, so it gets rounded to 1. The reason it was doing 6 when the xbow was garrisoned was because extra arrows have a +5 bonus against stone defense (stone walls and towers).

Hera does these videos to show people about common combat scenarios from a pro player's perspective so you can use the information the way others do. Spirit does very thorough experiments to find out all the little details and present them to you to use however you want. It's 2 different styles and both work well.

hey hera regarding mangonels in one of your recent vids you deleted mangonel to destroy multiple enemy mangonels (i think it was vs MBL) you said you did that to increase spread of mangonel shot. how does that work ? i never heard of it before does it increase spread of shot even while shoting uphill ?

hera being a teacher once again. when he was talking about towers i was like: c'mon man, i know what will happen. no need to chew on the hill bonus again. hera: nope. me: what nope? the tower on top will do more damage than the one below. hera: NOPE. watch the vid! me "watching the vid": ...WHAT THE FUCK?! even though i already knew the mangonel trick and how hill bonuses are used, the tower fight was new for me. even veterans can learn something from his tutorials!

Yo hello hera, i heard a few days ago on another youtube channel you're one of the best AOE players so i thought i might check out your channel too. I think you sound very symphatic and have a nice way explaining things :) gonna leave you a sub dude!

Would like to see examples of taking uphill fights when having counter units or fighting counter units when having a hill. Most commonly xbow vs skirm. Recently say your Ethiopians deathball vid in which you engaged mbl's skirms as you had the hill and faster firing xbows.

The snowball effect is known as Lanchesters law.

Hera is the hill bonus calculated based on the attacking unit's position when the shot was fired, or where the unit is when the shot lands? I understand if the attacking unit is deleted, the shot doesn't have a unit to 'remember' but during tight mango wars on the side of a hill, does microing my mango uphill field less risk? I don't just want to know if I can save my unit by collecting a hill defence after their shot has already been let loose, but also to help predict where my opponent might want to micro their units when I'm attack grounding. Great content! We love you Hera

And there was me thinking hills would give you extra range XD! I also suppose Viking infantry could fight well uphill, perhaps also Japanese, but in general it's better to reposition yourself before those fights.

I nearly finished my 30 days of thumbs up. I've already given 23 so only 7 to go!

Keep the content coming man. One request from me: could you do a vid on villager pathing/choices after they build a TC or mill/camp. For instance I noticed in HD villagers prefer stone over gold if you build a mining camp just in between. With a TC they prefer gold over wood. If you build it next to wood, what trees do they prefer? Maybe co-op with Spirit!

The hills have eyes

Hera reminds me so much of my chemistry teacher back in school, after showing us a reaction. "Woah what happened here?!" xD

Hera is my favorite AOE player. Thanks for sticking with the frequent KZfaq uploads. 👍

When I played this game as a kid, I had no idea there was such a thing as hill bonus haha, I probably barely even paid attention to hills in general

Hera, what happens if I place a Castle on a one tile hill? The hill won't cover the whole castle but does the hill bonus apply or not? Thanks as always for the videos. You are a true hero

Hey woah now.. how did you use the editor/play so you could switch teams like that?!?!?!

Ok no one seems have thought of this question: Do bonuses get applied times the hill bonus? Say a halb pokes a knight uphill versus a pike pokes a knight uphill. Does the bonus just do the normal bonus damage and the basic damage is multiplied or does it get the hill bonus?

Hera nice vid to start off :) But I think you're wrong with the hill bonus for towers they do get a hill bonus being applied to their damage, it's just not coming into effect in this case. Towers have 7 perice armour (from what I tested) so the tower is doing 5-7=-2 damage which cause aoe gets put up to the minimum 1 damage. So even with the hill bonus (5-7)*1.25=-2.5 it's still less than 1 so it still gets put up to 1. However if you get a watch tower with bracer or a guard tower with fletching it becomes 8-7= 1 damage and with hill bonus you get (8-7)*1.25=1.25 damage and so every 4 shots it deals 2 damage, so the hill bonus is effecting it (far more major with keeps with arrow slits and bracer). So as long as the damage delt by something is less then 1 hill bonus doesn't do anything as it just gets put up to 1 irrelivant of how much smaller than 1 the damage actually is. More importantly it seems hill bonus is calculated after armour but before bumping negative damage up to 1. So for things like shooting rams hill bonus doesn't matter since the hill bonus is applied before the damage is rounded to positive 1 not after so you still get 1 damage rather than 1.25. As for the 6 damage, bonus arrows from buildings get rounded up to 5 damage against buildings and I guess this is applied after hill bonus as well.

Mystery solved! Thanks Hera

Snowballing = Exponential growth. #FlattenTheCurve

Very useful video, thank you my friend

Hera should you use patrol or attack? Lot of people say patrol but it has a delay, which attack move does not! It's driving me crazy i can't find a reliable answer

Good day, I am curious, although it would be ill advised, does the deleting trick also work with other ranged units such as crossbows or scorpions?

i came here for one question, does hell bonus apply to "bonus damage" calculations ? so does a helberdier do over 40 bonus damage with it or no ? nvm i just went in and tested it for heblerdiers and yes it does. "48 dmg to hussars when helberdier is uphell and 28 when downhell" this is interesting because it also means counter units "such as canoneers" care about hell bonuses MORE than anything else.

"I'm talking today about hill bonuses, yes! Hill bonuses"

when a building is placed partially on a hill and partially on "flat" is it considered on a hill or on flat when attacking/being attacked from the flat?

May I ask how to switch between teams? 2 window? And how about Tatars' bonus? I am not sure how it works. "Hill" bonus from 25% to 50%? "Height" bonus? (+25% at map like highland?)

What about the other "hill" the onethat block path and doesn't seem to be upper ?

Someone tell Skinny that Malay is the best civ in the game

Do a top 20 tier list of pro active AOE II players, please. who is better? 18k boi or silverboi?

Great video!

Works the same way with ships as well I guess? Like with other land units

Good guide

It's sad that someone has to explain something so simple. Gamers worldwide, revolt! We are not braindead! We are not braindead!

What about line of sight? It should get bonus for that

Nice video!

Do hills give you more firing distance?

woud also be interesting, that clifs give you +25% atack but didnt minimize enemy atack

To clarify, the hill bonus is added after damage reduction from armor happens correct? @hera

Ehh what about castles on hills vs trebs?

Hera, you forgot about cliffs ;-) like will a cliff or a hill win the bonus damage???

hypee

hey hera. hope you're doing good my friend

Why you no take facebook money, Also goo Hera goo Hera goo!!!!

It would be better if you customized attack to 100, and made knight hp 1000. You could observe decimal precision.

What about tatars?

8:56 really? :))) its so clear

You probably should have mentioned Tatar's bonus

i think the delete trick is going to get patched soon, its definitely a bug

I was expecting some tartar bonus demo, leacivng disappointed.

Would you please stop it? This guy wants to help noobies to get better in this game, and you have nothing more to do, to compare him to spririt. Just shut it. If you want Spirit go on spirits channel and support him. End of the story.

No starwars "high ground" meme as video thumbnail... downvoted

lol mangonel cheats

Slow down a little. You talk i these bursts that make you articulate poorly and makes it harder to understand you. Nice video though.