ALL CIVS Ranked After 3,000 Hours Of Deity Civ 6 Play

ALL CIVS Ranked After 3,000 Hours Of Deity Civ 6 Play - 2022 edition

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This is a Tier list that people have been asking for for quite some time. I didn't want to make it because I play Civ 6 in a slightly alternative way, and being honest I didn't want to put my opinions out there in the wider sphere for people to judge until I was certain I had a good handle on how everyone played.
After 3,000 hours of Deity and a complete Deity hall of fame, as well as building a significant YT channel based on Civ 6 play... I can finally say I'm ready to submit my list.
Remember to keep all thoughts and opinions kind and constructive. You won't agree with me, I can guarentee it, on all choices. That's OK!
Anyway, this video took me a LONG time to make so please do help me to spread it around. I'd love for people to see it!
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00:00 Intro
00:32 Assumptions Made
04:50 Explaining The Tiers
08:46 Germany (Frederick)
10:32 Netherlands (Wilhelmina)
12:08 Macedonia (Alexander)
15:17 India (Chandragupta & Gandhi)
20:54 China (Kublai & Qin Shi)
26:59 Greece (Gorgo & Pericles)
31:03 Rome (Trajan)
33:47 Aztecs (Montezuma)
36:54 Khmer (Jayavarman)
39:50 Inca (Pachacuti)
42:35 America (Rough Rider Teddy & Bull Moose Teddy)
47:18 Hungary (Matthias)
50:15 Nubia (Amanitore)
52:23 Maori (Kupe)
55:31 Poland (Jadwiga)
58:29 Mali (Mansa)
01:01:00 Georgia (Tamar)
01:03:35 Sumeria (Gilgamesh)
01:06:04 Scotland (Robert)
01:09:11 Egypt (Cleopatra)
01:10:55 France (Black Queen & Magnificence Catherine)
01:15:20 France (Eleanor)
01:16:52 England (Eleanor & Victoria)
01:20:50 Mongolia (Kublai & Genghis)
01:24:00 Australia (John)
01:26:28 Ottomans (Suleiman)
01:28:28 Japan (Hojo)
01:29:53 Korea (Seondeok)
01:31:38 Kongo (Mvemba)
01:33:13 Zulu (Shaka)
01:35:18 Russia (Peter)
01:36:34 Persia (Cyrus)
01:38:31 Canada (Wilfrid)
01:40:29 Cree (Poundmaker)
01:42:10 Brazil (Pedro)
01:44:11 Indonesia (Gitarja)
01:46:04 Mapuche (Lautaro)
01:47:48 Sweden (Kristina)
01:49:37 Phoenicia (Dido)
01:52:06 Scythia (Tomyris)
01:53:49 Gran Colombia (Simon)
01:55:07 Spain (Philip)
01:56:53 Norway (Harald)
01:58:36 Arabia (Saladin)
01:59:42 Maya (Lady Six)
02:01:37 Ethiopia (Menelik)
02:03:09 Byzantium (Basil)
02:05:24 Gaul (Ambiorix)
02:07:47 Babylon (Hammurabi)
02:09:55 Vietnam (Ba Trieu)
02:11:40 Portugal (Joao)
02:14:09 The Ending Analysis

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@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

@harjutapa 2 жыл бұрын

honestly? I think you're one of the 2 or 3 best single player Civ 6 players around. You play in a different style than most (I don't know if I've ever seen you win by Domination, for example, though I'm sure you've done so at least once), but you win consistently even with ridiculous challenges or mods thrown in your way. So yeah, I think anyone who refuses to at least listen carefully and respectfully to your opinions deserves nothing but to be ignored.

@harjutapa 2 жыл бұрын

And like, as one example, your play is what made me realize how incredibly good pillaging is. I'd been watching Civ 6 KZfaqrs for years, and no one else had ever emphasized it, or even really USED it much.

@xxZitroxx 2 жыл бұрын

Just having watched the first seven minutes your explanations really remind me of filthyrobots standards back in civ 5 to a degree. How strong are the bonuses and how consistent are they. All around amazing like civ 5 Persia? Top tier. Amazing bonus but very fragile (Germany in civ 5) or inconsistent (Spain)? No tier one for you.

@jamesdykes517 Жыл бұрын

Not a fan of your voice. So when you do weird ones, it's jarring.

@megamax898 Жыл бұрын

So with Kupe "resources can't be harvested". That's actually not including woods, rainforest, and marsh. That only applies to bonus resources (since those are the only resources that can be harvested without mods) I'm fairly certain I have chopped rainforests and marsh with Kupe to increase appeal. It's just things like wheat, cows, copper, stone that I couldn't get rid of. Kupe can also crush features by putting districts on them, but not resources.

@mbyt7774 2 жыл бұрын

This is the most instructive video ever - I don't really care about the rankings just the commentary on how you play each leader was so helpful, I had no clue about some of these game mechanics - many thanks for all the effort behind it

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

thanks so much - really appreciate it!

@Tzubazaah Жыл бұрын

@@UrsaRyan Thats also how I kept watching. I was just baffled about your knowlegde and thought process how to win games with the game characters (I played ~120 hours yet.)

@vignashtharmaratnam3646 2 жыл бұрын

Flexibility to work with mediocre/bad maps is by far the most underrated advantage a civ can have. Glad to see that this tier list incorporates that!

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

thank you! I always thought so = )

@widgetb 2 жыл бұрын

That was a fantastic tier list! Ditching the S-F ranking made this much better. No shade to other lists, but once you've seen one, you've just about seen them all with just a handful of civs shifting around. I almost didn't watch this, but I'm so glad I did. Not only was it a refreshing take on the concept, but all the time you spent going through each of these civs has made me want to play some I haven't or didn't really appreciate where their strengths fit. Your content is always delightful and original and this monumental effort was no different. Thanks so much - off to go try out a new civ!

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

awww, thanks so much widget! really glad this style of tier list works, it was a blast putting it together!

@SourceOfBeing 2 жыл бұрын

I know it's a time commitment, but I would like to see a Marathon speed game. It can uploaded once a week or once a fortnight, as a side game alongside your main playthrough, but I think it would be interesting to see what happens when the game is forced to spend more time in each era.

@phyein4815 2 жыл бұрын

The problem with marathon and epic is that production is slowed down as well. So nothing really changes, other than just adding a bunch of idle turns. Need to install a mod that keeps production the same to have that desired effect.

@yaoitiddieexpert1486 2 жыл бұрын

@@phyein4815 wouldnt war become stronger? since the units move the same distance per turn, what happens is that the AI cant react as quickly (since everything costs so much more) but the rush is a lot stronger?

@ahmetgrcn2663 2 жыл бұрын

@@yaoitiddieexpert1486 this is exactly the point of slower game speeds. everything slows down, except unit movements.

@nanogalactic6016 2 жыл бұрын

There's this mod called extended eras, it's really cool

@mackycabangon8945 2 жыл бұрын

@@nanogalactic6016 I use that in every game now

@gumbycat5226 2 жыл бұрын

Great thinking. I like your ranking criteria - general vs situational - makes a lot more sense than just S-F. I have a few minor points: 1. Maori can chop forests and jungles, and drain marshes. What they can't do is get rid of bonus resources. 2. To me, Mali is situationally excellent - you need that desert but you always get the first pantheon, which has to be the desert folklore holy site adjacency booster. Then with Work Ethic you can have +16 production per holy site. This allows you to get your districts and wonders quickly and then you use your mega cash to pay for buildings and units. 3. The other day I was doing Eleanor France on that hugest YANM. I started my conquest in Austria and ended the game having taken, without a fight, all the Balkans, Asia Minor, Italy, Palestine/Syria, Arabia, Egypt plus involuntary acquisition of every city state on the way. If your criterion was "fun" I'd rank her pretty near the top. 4. By definition, Korea is "situationally" whatever due to the seowon, more so than Greece. So too is Scythia - I think you fudged it when you said they could always conquer a nearby city if they didn't spawn near horses... 5. If only Brazil didn't remove jungle when you place a district... it would be excellent. 6. You forgot to mention... that the free cavalry Byzantium gets are forever free of maintenance costs - you can upgrade them to tanks and not worry about oil or global warming... and Gaul gets men at arms with iron working.

@bretthart1352 Жыл бұрын

...? I thought with Mansa Musa you pick the settler to snow ball Early? 16 production holysites sounds insane though....

@Lucas17031 2 жыл бұрын

Good thing i have a soda and chips with me, let's binge this

@getbn6547 2 жыл бұрын

1:46 I have no problem if you don't wanna play every game on deity, sometimes it's fun to dial it back to emperor and seeing what you can get away with. I had no idea the fans were this adamant about it. Play to have fun, in whatever way you want. In fact, a beginners guide might help newer players stick with the game.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!!! Yes, play to have fun. It's the best way

@DocNo27 2 жыл бұрын

@@UrsaRyan Isn't it almost silly we have to remind ourselves that play and fun are more than tangentially related?

@SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14 2 жыл бұрын

@@DocNo27 it's because these games are massively deep and people get too engrossed haha

@noblezarkon 20 күн бұрын

I don't play on Deity as it's less fun and forces certain pathways. I want to be able to play the Civ and use their features and abilities regardless of if they're good or not :-)

@joelpierce1453 2 жыл бұрын

If you're ever lucky enough to play a Nubia game with a lot of desert floodplains, Lady of the Reeds and Marshes plus the nubian pyramids will make them all worth a minimum of 4 food, 2 production, and 2 faith. The tiles become so juicy.

@joelpierce1453 2 жыл бұрын

@@jyutzler Did I say it wasn't?

@seinfeld789 2 жыл бұрын

Great job dude, this tier list is a lot different than the others that I've seen on you tube. You opened my eye on how some civs are s tier like the Aztecs and Eleanor of Aquitaine. Thanks for making great content and I hope you reach 10k subscribers soon.

@paulgaofei 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff Ursa, nice of u to take the time to share in detail ur thoughts. So much to learn about the different Civs.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!!!

@mikelamb8471 2 жыл бұрын

Just watched the whole thing. I like the way you think about Civ. Really well done.

@SourceOfBeing 2 жыл бұрын

4:50 - You forgot #11 Civs that make it easier to build Railroads score higher.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

So true!!! England S, everyone else F

@sleepysofabear 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic effort! Really looking forward to it!

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed! Thanks so much for helping!!!

@auldtriangle8 2 жыл бұрын

Love the video, I like how your tier list is different to many people and you explained your reasoning well. I think it matches with how I play really well too :-)

@TheTrueSeraph 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, I like how fun the top civs on your list are

@happy764 8 ай бұрын

Not just another tier list. The insight you provide for each leader and civ is sooo good. Thank you for all the time, thought, and effort here.

@UrsaRyan 8 ай бұрын

Very welcome, glad you enjoyed!

@portland573 2 жыл бұрын

Very detailed explanations and reasoning. The time flew by!

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

cheers portland!!! =)

@znewell5 2 жыл бұрын

This was a really cool way to evaluate Civs! I'll readily admit that I opened the video, skipped to the end to see the list, thought, "whoa, that's different," and then had to watch the whole thing. Your focus on Civs that have greater flexibility makes this list super unique and helpful (I've had so many instances where I've endlessly re-rolled my starts, trying to get a perfect area for leaders like Bull Moose Teddy, Pachacuti, etc.). After seeing your analysis, I definitely want to go back and try out Civs that I'd largely dismissed and to revisit a bunch that don't get as much love as they deserve.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you enjoyed - and that it got you playing more civ! It's such a good game generally = )

@allanbessani5128 2 жыл бұрын

you made me see a lot of civs with a new perspective! great content, had to subscribe

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

thanks so much, great to have you!!!

@andyscott6675 2 жыл бұрын

And let the arguments begin...! I really like your bandings BTW, make perfect sense.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much :)

@McAabee 2 жыл бұрын

what a monumental task. thank you :)

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

@nopnopnopnopnopnopnop 2 жыл бұрын

I always had faith that he would one day make this video

@Aemond2024 2 ай бұрын

Interesting ranking. I like your setup. The nuance of your ranking is very useful with civ

@aniximander 2 жыл бұрын

Great list, i really prefer this breakdown to typical s-to-f tier lists. It takes a while to go through the full list, but I learned a lot along the way. So thanks 😋

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad it helped! Civ is so subjective I wanted to try something a bit different

@xezdog Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot, really great tier list and explanations. Like your reasoning and argumentation. Overall, great video and the best tier list I've seen ever

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed!

@Ultima3755 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this great video its definitely shows your love and knowledge of the game. I am sure it took quite a bit of work and its a great analysis of a big part of the game I am sure many people struggle with. You deserve more subscribers and I hope this helps you get them to notice you!

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

cheers! really appreciate that - I tried to make it as helpful as possible but you're never sure!!!

@saketdhodapkar7658 2 жыл бұрын

Top class video Ryan ! Loved the video

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

cheers!

@tech-wh2qu 2 жыл бұрын

Time to sit in for the marathon watch!

@aeriththemagnificent7711 Жыл бұрын

Nice refreshing take on a tierlist, I loved your reasoning

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

I need to update this soon actually!

@rift8966 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Probably the only video over 30 minutes I've ever watched to the end, lol.

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

yay! thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed = )

@vsmind 2 жыл бұрын

Very good video, a resource I'll return to. thanks

@wanglord9591 7 ай бұрын

Great video! I really enjoyed your perspective on all of these civs. I'm been a shameless apologist for Black Queen Meredici since I started playing and it's very reassuring to hear that my love isn't without warrant - though I learned a lot about her from this video too! I was surprised by your take on Amanitore, but I can see where you're coming from. I've always considered her a star for an early war, but I'm only now making the step up from Emperor to Diety and I can see where those limitations lie. Yeah, awesome video! Very insightful!

@UrsaRyan 7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed! Remember that my word is not gospel, everyone plays different = )

@lauras6762 2 жыл бұрын

As a Hungary lover myself, I’m so glad you put them up high. I recently saw one where they were put in C Tier and I screamed at my screen lol.

@SmallPotato2313 Жыл бұрын

With himiko hungary becomes too strong for the AI to handle

@brianmiller1077 2 жыл бұрын

Well done I like the custom ranking system. Excellent.

@DocNo27 2 жыл бұрын

Way cool - thanks for taking the time to do this! Feeding the algorithm too :o)

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

feed the beast!! thanks = )

@shawncalderon4950 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant!

@michaokonski6223 Жыл бұрын

Wow amazing video, i am civ iv player but recently tried one more time to play civ vi. You opened my eyes on how many options are hidden in that game.(However capturing cities with 100 units on one file is cool as well)

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

Death stack! Thanks for the praise, appreciated = )

@jacobdhall 2 жыл бұрын

Oooh yes can't wait to see what goes into these tiers

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

Waaaaayyy to much filming time..!!!!

@jacobdhall 2 жыл бұрын

@@UrsaRyan or a way for us on patreon to pick things for you to play!

@johng3621 2 жыл бұрын

You did an excellent job with this. Thank you for shifting the categories and explaining your reasons. I get tired of hearing how e.g. Babylon is broken when you can get stuck sometimes unable to build or buy any units to defend yourself. Yes, when it works great, it's amazing, but you addressed the situation for each civ for all games, which I appreciated.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

it's true - difficult to use is often something that gets neglected! I need to practice my babylon game I think...!

@anyoneatall3488 Жыл бұрын

Do you really think babylon is not op?

@georgesteffey8375 2 жыл бұрын

this is fantastic, halfway through rn

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

wohoo!!!

@long9x97 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you this is what I need

@guahlg2834 2 жыл бұрын

This was truly a very great video! Mostly because it shows how great a civilization really is in another perspective.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@hakonatli 2 жыл бұрын

I have watched a lot of tier videos and never seen one that I agree with as much as yours. ❤ I think there are a couple of civs that snuck into "generally excellent" because they are good at domination regardless of start, but hey :) I would have loved to see a podium at the end, like with a top 3 🏆

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

ah man, but then I would have to choose!!! this was hard enough = ) glad you enjoyed though, thanks so much!

@E-Doggy-Dog 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time explaining the rules and how it works, if i just skimmed this video I would have taken much less away from it

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

not a problem, thanks for watching!

@johnhawkins5314 2 жыл бұрын

I'll need torewatch this, bc this was so chill I fell asleep really comfily like 10 mins in

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

This is amazing

@58209 Жыл бұрын

finally watching this monster video that's been lurking in my reccs after ursa has been threatening to make a new tier list video

@Lenny533 2 жыл бұрын

Love your content 48

@maj.kingkong3004 2 жыл бұрын

When I first saw 2 hours my initial thought was, “Ryan, you’ve finally lost it”. Absolutely loved it! Two hours went by so quickly. Well thought out and communicated. Actually learned a lot about some of the Civs I rarely play. Excellent work. Of course, Genghis Kahn’s Mongolia and Eleanor’s France should be in a special tier of their own above the rest…😉

@Kpyolysis32 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the tier list, it's very different from a typical tier list At first I was like "hmm, I don't think Ryan knows how tier lists work" But this ended up very interesting. The praise of England's Eleanor and the relative coldness on Menelik were v interesting, and on the latter I think I've come to agree. Maybe I'll have to give Eleanor another whirl

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes, she's amazing once you get the hang of buying great works from the AI XD

@spesbona4345 2 жыл бұрын

one of the most reasonable civ 6 top tier. glad i saw that on my suggestions.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

cheers!

@MFD8724 2 жыл бұрын

I love just hearing you discuss your reasoning. Hearing you talk about India and how to utilize them really got the gears turning in my own head. Often we are crippled by our own bias' or too easily swayed by group think. I am going to try Ghandi now and try to collect religions like Pokemon cards. Should be "good fun". Thank you for the video and your unique take on the civ tier list concept.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

glad you enjoy India Ryan - once you get the hang of their abilities they are terrifyingly good!!!

@fanofrpgalore1546 2 жыл бұрын

@@jyutzler 4-5 religions, no majority, in your empire won’t help any other Civ win

@Jobbeelg 2 жыл бұрын

This tier list is Generally Excellent

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

haha - rather than situationally very good!?!

@kondissk.8serowypies741 2 жыл бұрын

best tier list ever i love it

@Lenny533 2 жыл бұрын

Love the Video 3

@bluebambue 2 жыл бұрын

Oh Ryan, you are too pure for the world of tier lists and hot takes

@bluebambue 2 жыл бұрын

This is said with much love

@opheliatrahan4185 Жыл бұрын

Maybe I’m a bit biased, but I got my first deity victory with Ambiorix. Granted, I got an insane start (like 5 salt and 3 mercury tiles within like 4 tiles of my capital), but the Gaesatae is so nice early on to get things rolling.

@MrGalactique 2 жыл бұрын

Ethiopia is clearly, CLEARLY underrated in your top, considering Ethiopia is the ultimate faith generation Civ. Each time I meet this civ in Deity it always snowball like crazy with its huge faith that is fat enough to surpass or at least compete with other civs in science and culture. Plus, while playing Ethiopia, you have a royal road toward either religious or cultural victory thanks to the Rock Church which is among the best unique tile improvement in the game. And settling on hills isn't quite situationnal since it's starting bias is on hill.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

tis why I love Civ so much, many different takes on a fantastically complex game!

@MattyOfPassion Жыл бұрын

Fantastic list, almost everything makes complete sense. My only note that stood out a bit, wouldn't one be able to make the case that Canada is situationally excellent. If you get a map with low/no appeal or tundra near you most of your bonuses are unavailable. Thank you for this useful and very instructive list!

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

Totally get what you mean about Canada but Mounties alone make them top tier. Appeal, if you know how, can be added once you hit conservation pretty easily. I've honestly never played a game with them and struggled!

@joelpierce1453 2 жыл бұрын

The last game I played as the Khmer I won a culture victory on like turn 175 without even trying for one. The game was so easy and I caught up to the AI so fast that I had to double-check that I was playing on Deity. They're absolutely one of the best civs in my opinion.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

They truely are an amazing civ!

@vaclaurus3545 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love Brazil on TSL Earth map, Hercules, Natural Philosophy Card, and the one Pantheon that give +faith to adjacent rainforest files, then Work ethic. It's so rediculously insane. I got a culture victory on turn 150 doing that strategy. That was a couple years ago, but I've done it a time or two since, it's amazing.

@EvanJTao 2 жыл бұрын

So much fun to play too. Yields go brrrr

@shinydavidhowell 2 жыл бұрын

Casual multiplayer with friends rather than deity singleplayer so not the same thing, but my last Khmer game was an outrageous blowout and while I attributed that to luck (4p game where I stole one player's early settler while another opponent got wrecked by a bad spawn and the third went all-in on religion to no avail) the Khmer's own abilities absolutely set up the snowball. I genuinely forgot how much faith I had because I was just focusing on infrastructure, suddenly pulled an apostle wall out of thin air when I needed it, and then my yields were going brrr so hard that I literally gained about as much culture per turn from Antananarivo suzerainty as at least one player did total. It was genuinely like I was playing against the Settler AI rather than three non-inept humans. And I'm not even that good! I mostly play on Prince!!

@iami3rian394 Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the "Caymens."

@felipeignaciohermosillamel8653 2 жыл бұрын

Great video ursa, i really like your videos, are very fun to see. Have you tried play Kupe in a hill map? Is no ocean, so Kupe start with a free builder and a extra pop in turn one

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

yeah he's epic! very good on landlocked maps, just as the game intended

@mikes1733 Жыл бұрын

Great job, Ryan! Maybe an update is in order as there are several new leaders to play with? 👍

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

Will be returning to this soon!

@lonestar6709 2 жыл бұрын

Great to see Eleanor of Aquitaine (England), given her dues for once. I've seen other tiers put her at the bottom. Dead last. Stuff and nonsense! Use her correctly, and she's broken! Nice to see you put her at S Tier. A player who knows what he's talking about.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

Ah, another person of culture I see = )

@kongspeaks4778 2 жыл бұрын

Nubia is REALLY good if you level up their archers properly. play them right and you could have machine guns with 7 promotions, good enough to half city defenses in just one turn

@RiverHolySitesGoBRRRRRRR 2 жыл бұрын

Agree with your opinions on most of the civ's! India's Dharma ability is very underrated, his 2 extra missionary charges work well with Scripture 50% more powerful charges (with printing tech) and his 100% religious trade pressure meaning he will always be a threat religious wise (even without missionaries) making him just outstanding and a beast. I'd dare say religion is the building block for all game types, it's extremely powerful even for nonreligious games. I wish they would buff Indian Leader skills, especially Gandhi. Also love Khmer, very good civ. Good tier list!

@E-Doggy-Dog 2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense the tiers !

@IzzRei 2 жыл бұрын

I've been playing Babylon straight for the last month on deity and I agree with the points about teching beyond your ability to upgrade such as unlocking Lineman by killing a unit with a knight and thus soft locking you out of square rigging which require musketmen (solution is to levy). They can warp the world's barbarians, like building an oil well in 1500 BC and suddenly there are barb spec ops spawning next to pikeman, hilarious. Babylon focused is beyond busted, even above crusading Byzantium knights in almost all situations and even better if settled on a river. Their only odd quirk is that for some reason they seemed to struggle with getting into tier 2 government and they really really really need to kill 3 barbarians and be able to build an iron mind to get going otherwise they are in very rough spot, though their rough spot is better then Byzantium without a religion.

@TheNoodleMan12 2 жыл бұрын

Just a heads up if you didn't know but the 'own 2 bombard' and 3 musketman eurekas are busted right now, they've been changed to trebuchets and line infantry respectively but for some reason the text description of the eureka wasn't changed to reflect that. That was just a random side note, your point is still valid though for sure

@angusheasly2674 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!

@gosupikachu1912 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad someone else understands how strong Eleanor really is. It always makes me a little sad when people underrate her

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

oh I know, they're just insane when used right!

@DiscusvissenRocken 2 жыл бұрын

Ohh i never take city flipping civs lightly!! Haha played too much civ 4 where culture city flipping was a serious threat and Eleanor does it so damn well in this game! Nothing more satisfying than peacefully flipping Aztecs out of existance 😈 i am also glad this guy can see the hidden powerhouse that is England Eleanor. The amazing peaceful city stealing but backed by a production and gpt powerhouse empire in case someone tries to fight it is just too good to ignore.

@2gtomkins 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. It is both informative and insightful, and I tend to agree with you where you disagree with the conventional wisdom. That said, I would rank Babylon and the Maya higher, the former for the reasons in my earlier comment, the latter because it is good at helping you survive the early game against Deity AI, and once well past the early game, superior human strategic ability lets you compensate for those 15% yield maluses.

@nopnopnopnopnopnopnop 2 жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention that brazil gets excellent production from their holy site + sacred path + work ethic combo (if you can get it)

@andrewklang809 2 жыл бұрын

21:00 Quinn, the Chinese Emperor. 21:45 "If troops lay siege to a walled city, their strength will be exhausted. Therefore [...] the worst is to attack a walled city" - Sun Tzu

@jacksonperez5615 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like scotlands ability alone makes them at least situationally very good. That’s a huge bonus

@Michael_mki233 2 жыл бұрын

Oh...now I want to see you do a 20 Civ, Huge map, Settler difficulty, Epic speed, with one of the more broken Civs. Really cut loose and go full-on "I am God" on the AI. Please make this happen.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

That would be hilarious I would adopt one and help it be it's best self

@nanogalactic6016 2 жыл бұрын

:O tier list!

@dirrdevil Жыл бұрын

Very fun to play. Very good. Excellent. It's difficult. It's tricky.

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

I like this scale!

@hugin738 Жыл бұрын

Hey Ursa, will you Do another Tier list after the leader pass is finished.(Could just be an extension, rating the new ones)

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

Yes, I need to update this!

@jasonarthurs3885 Жыл бұрын

Watching some back catalogue content.....for Pericles, it's also often overlooked that he receives a free envoy for each acropolis built, reinforcing the % culture boost for being suzerain.

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

Yes it's very powerful - it translates into so many extra city state friends over the course of a game!

@2gtomkins 2 жыл бұрын

I tend to build industrial zones as the first district with Babylon. Mines are a good improvement anyway, so you would often get three of them very early, and industrial zones may be the first district you unlock. Unlike any other specialty district, they increase that one city's most important yield, production, while all the other specialty districts increase empire-wide yields like culture, gold, or faith, so there is a certain logic to building the zone it first. Other civs that have to wait until the Medieval to unlock can't build it first in their early cities, so you don't have the habit of building it early. It is true that Babylon can unlock the permission to build units, wonder, districts, and buildings eras ahead of everyone else, but struggle to take advantage because their cities are still stuck in those earlier eras in terms of their productive capacity. That's why Babylon is given the palgum, and why it should prioritize getting techs that boost tile yields, so it can get bigger and more productive cities quickly to sort of halfway compensate for the high costs of all the advanced era goodies it can unlock.

@matthewmanzi9504 2 жыл бұрын

My personal thought is Babylon is S tier once you play and get a strategy for them. Once you master them, they are the most broken Civ in the game.

@2gtomkins 2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewmanzi9504Babylon is arguably the most over-powered civ, and you can win along just about any route using its gifts. My point is that taking full advantage of the ability it gives you to unlock at least selected techs earlier than even deity level AI competitors requires you to emphasize also pumping up your production point output early. Those advanced units, buildings, and wonders all have advanced price tags as well, so you need to get your yields up to try to match the higher cost in production points.

@kyletitterton 2 жыл бұрын

Great list man. Really insightful. It's utterly mental that they have 3 French leaders and none of them are Napoleon. What's the deal? I think he's a great general but it's weird. Also I wish Hannibal was in there. I suppose he wasn't fully in charge of Carthage but his historical achievements in war are mindblowing.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

I think the civ games were a) trying to be a bit more inclusive with the leaders (which I totally get and has taught me lots about people I would have never have known about before) and b) they try not to use the same ones every time - Napoleon was in a bunch of other civs - but yeah I would have expected him to pop up at some point!

@jacobdhall 2 жыл бұрын

Alternately, DO have a lot of communication in the ole comments for the ALGORITHM. Also come to discord it is very fun

@mattschulz2576 2 жыл бұрын

Kupe can chop woods and rainforest as well as clear marshes he just can't harvest bonus resources such as deer or wheat.

@Cynical_Socialist 2 жыл бұрын

Now, I’d like to provide a counterpoint to what you said about Robert. I’ve played him a few times and I’ve found that if you can manage to build a colluseum, all you really need is to get some entertainment complexes and a couple amenities and you’ve got the scottish enlightenment for the rest of the game

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

Scotland can be amazing, absolutely! that's quite the setup though = )

@Cynical_Socialist 2 жыл бұрын

@@UrsaRyan thanks!

@yojigen5024 2 жыл бұрын

Requesting an Ursa Ryan Ghandi playthough, I am struggling to find one in your playlists, despite your (relatively) high praise of them, thanks in advance :)

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

I have a few India playlists! A more recent one and a big ol TSL one

@WeirdViking Жыл бұрын

This was a really fucking good video. Like holy shit. You did warn us your tier list might look very different to alot of other people, but tbh unlike the other players, you actually went in depth into each civs pros and cons and actually showed how even civs others have dismissed are actually really good when played right. I think often times people get too stuck with the mindset of "this is how i wanna win and if the civ cant do it, then its a bad civ" instead of you actually changing and adapting your playstyle to a civ. This video has given me so many new ideas how to play civ6. Ty.

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed the list!!

@XandstarSan Жыл бұрын

I'm a new Civ 6 player, and I love playing with the default setup when creating a map. Haven't tried Deity though. Also, using UI mods like builder charge number, quick deals, better espionage menu, better trade menu, etc. What do you think about those?

@StrudelerOfTheTSociety 2 жыл бұрын

You displayed a healthy attitude explaining that every civilization has value. Civ VI's balance is much better than Civ V, for instance: Civ V Gandhi at many times would punish the player's expansion, unlike in Civ VI where a civilization with yield trade-offs like the Maya offer unique ways to play. The more, the merrier.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

exactly! i think learning to play all styles is so much more rewarding than getting too focussed on small aspects. glad you enjoyed!

@freelounge6001 2 жыл бұрын

You have some of the most expressive mouse work on KZfaq

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

hahahaha - i never noticed and now I can't stop

@phyein4815 2 жыл бұрын

Just played ottomans on a naval map and the Barbary Corsair was hilarious. Hic sunt dracones and a great admiral and they had 8 movement, could have been 9 if I built the lighthouse, raid card in.... the amount of science, faith, gold, and culture I got in a typical turn was just absurd. I built 4 of em and took em to a different AI coast and declared war on everyone and just went to town. Was one of the most fun things I've ever done in game, so yeah, I can see why someone might say they are the best unit in the game.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

It's been a while since I filmed the series and yeah, I still think they are the best units in Civ. Nothing else can plunder so much resource for you so fast, they are insane!

@zhoubiden6003 2 жыл бұрын

I know u haven’t made one yet but I have a streak going of doing this on every civ tier list I see… ♻️

@obiwangkenoobee7376 2 жыл бұрын

Hoho, rankings should have been like: King Bear, Queen Bear, Prince Bear, Princes Bear, Soldier Bear …..

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

Would have been on theme!!!

@AncientHydraGaming 2 жыл бұрын

(In relation to Kupe) I thought woods, rainforest, and swamps are "features" whereas "resources" are anything that has an icon on it (Bonus/Luxury/Strategic) and you can normally only harvest Bonus resources to begin with.

@anilkarakaya9343 Жыл бұрын

I love persia. Immortals cant chop like legions or batter cities as well but they are better unit killers thanks to the ranged attack and their swordsman counter attack. They reach promos easily while also benefitting from oligarchy and melee class tree. One immortal can duel a manatarms. They are good enough that persia is a good early aggressor, and persias culture/appeal improvement offers you a culture option for later if you want to peace or cant kill other neighbours. Persia is versatile like rome but the war bonuses of internal trade and movement bonuses kick in a bit later monuments, and pairidaeza is also a peaceful bonus which becomes strong in later stages than monuments and bath. I also like persia for having the best music in the game imo, its industrial theme is sublime and cyrus has an amazing design.

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

can't argue on the music! yeah I ended up rating cyrus a little higher for these reasons = )

@olbluelips 10 күн бұрын

I LOVE the advanced roads. Imo they’re busted. You can spread units within your empire thinner because they can respond in fewer turns. Also gives you tempo with builders and settlers. Combined with the surprise war bonus, the amount of flexibility you have as Persia is absurd.

@Thorite_Gem 2 жыл бұрын

I totally want to see you play a game as India now to show off their abilities!

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

I've done a few now - I love them!

@zombievikinggaming4258 2 жыл бұрын

Crazy how tier lists vary so extremely between KZfaqrs

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

it's why we love Civ6 ! such a complex game

@mrdevonscook 2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't figure out the Cree, so I played 5 or 6 games in a row with them. Having done so, I would put them as S tier in 1-player diety games. You talk about them being very middle of the road with no clear focus, but that's not true! The Cree are one of the best tall-focused civs in the game (if not the best). The housing from the mekewap and the fact it is essentially a mine that doesn't have to be built on hills, means your cities can grow very large, AND turn that growth into production pretty easily in the early to mid game. Their insane map/diplomatic visibility means they can easily meet every city state on the map very early on, then use their knowledge about the map, opponents, and city states to pick the best victory condition. The Cree can pick any victory condition (besides maybe domination) on any map and crush it. All you have to do is build tall and find the open lane to victory. **Also Poundmaker's ability benefits from both camps AND pastures. I never had any trouble in any of my games settling at least one city with 4-5 camps/pastures within three tiles. Anyway, loved the video. I agree with pretty much every other ranking. Thanks for putting in the time!

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

good take!

@lucidinstinct1457 2 жыл бұрын

Something I've tested before when as Portugal the AI just refuses to settle a coast was to just settle a city on their coast and Gift it to them. Its a pretty funny use of resources, but it can work.

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

trying to get the ai to win though is infuriating - trust me, I've tried!!

@firmanimad 2 жыл бұрын

Previously I wasn't interested in India, since popular opinions kinda see them as boring and I don't really enjoy a religious game. But you just convinced me to start a new India game. Why didn't I think about this previously? Thanks!

@UrsaRyan 2 жыл бұрын

haha - I'm so glad you're up for giving them a go! that's what I love about Civ - it's sometimes being showed something a bit different that helps you to find a path that's good fun

@tdawgmaster1729 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone actually acknoledges that the Aztecs are an incredibly powerful civ! My first game of civ 6 I played random on difficulty 2 and barely got a science win with them before the 500-turn limit (and didn't even use their abilities because I never declared war and forgot the builder thing was there), but now I'm consistently winning sub-300 on prince. I don't really like the higher difficulties as it feels like the AI just cheats, but I do have a couple deity games I'm playing at the time of writing just to see if I can win. Any tips if someone sees this would be appreciated

@UrsaRyan Жыл бұрын

For deity - just rememeber the advantage the AI has on you will get evened out over time. If you can survive till Atomic era, you'll mostly always win! Try larger maps with more space to expand and you may find it easier to survive the early games