Here we go again. Shadowbringers expansion and this video were released in July 2019 Your favourite cutscene was added to the game with patch 5.3 which was released in August 2020 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdp9jJeot8y0qKs.html - it's here if you really want to watch it again

@@KakaowyKruk thank you. I just started playing a few months ago. I didn't know the release timeline. Everything is just a blur of MSQ

@@KakaowyKruk indeed 5.3 came out in August 2020

I was screaming 😭

Any chance of adding his battle dialogue?

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kL6TarKk2c2bmZs.html They knew they couldn’t kill off such a good FF villain completely when they could’ve done so much more with him

That's fair lol

Like the homeless vagrant he is

May i partake in such a belief? XD

A bench in underwater Amaurot

"I didnt know the MSQ had a Savage difficulty."

up there with piccolos clothes beam

Elidibus is tighter lipped but nothing he has said so far has been false, as far as the main character is concerned. We really don't know much about what he's been involved in directly, although I am sure he is capable of observing from Emet-Selch's actions, what errors he made, including getting too attached to weakened mortal shards. Hopefully we'll get a lot more of him soon. As for Lahabrea, he never really divulged as much as Emet-Selch, though he did make it clear they wanted Hydaelyn out because she acted as a parasite on the planet. All of it ties into what Elidibus gets to during their big meeting. He was a workaholic and deadset on his task. The rest don't have the firsthand experience of those three.

He didnt try. If he tried he would to treated Varis and his great grandson better than using them as tools for his plans. He thought he did but failed once his eldest son died and gave up.

He pretty much realises he is wrong in the end though, since the peoples of Eorzea have conquered barriers not even the Ancients managed, like managing to travel back in time to prevent a calamity, but by that point he is too lonely and far in to admit he is wrong, either he will carry through the plans and see his lost friends and family again or he will die trying, which is what happens.

@@TheMadalucard I guess he realized after getting a axe in the torso. He should of known better.

@@brittanyhayes1043 i thought he got betrayed many times by the closest people to him while taking up mortal form, and I also thought he gave up because he put a lot of his hope to his first son, who died of an illness. I guess when you finally see hope and then its being crashed, it does things to you... then again, if he did the same things in Allag, he was just doing the manatory chores to begin with. SO i dunno.

In the end, while asking us to remember him, he also remembered us. Who we were. And that memory aided us at the conclusion of his people's story.

And he even worried about Elidibus after his death thus left us his last present.

The fact that he died and that's the end of the story is the best part It would be really bad bring him back just because we want more, it would destroy his entire character and all the great of it y'know?

Hes a tragic villan

The dude only loved the Amouritine of our character not our characters now self. That is obviously not love that is not healthy.

EXACTA FUCKLY!!!!! AAAAAAHH FINALLY SONEONE SAYS IT!!!

I still think hes evil though. All the ascians were. Genicide is not okay even if your tempered or lost your friends.

I mean, he was still Zodiark’s champion and tempered by him. He doesn’t exactly get to _not_ bring him back. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but he also doesn’t get a say in the matter.

Exactly. Thancred canonically, and my wol headcanonically, go through this whole ass character Arc about accepting the final death of Minfilia. The parallels are pretty blatant, I reckon. What Thancred was able to accept in 3 years, Emet-Selch was unable to accept after eons. This inability to let go is what drove him to such anguish.

@@brittanyhayes1043 absolutely evil. It was his grief that drove him to evil however which still makes him a tragic character. Very well written, Ishikawa is the goat

Fun Fact: During that scene that camera curiously lingers multiple times on the WoL looking really sad.

I personally think he did it for us. It’s largely hinted at us being old friends, so I think he couldn’t stand seeing us so sad; that’s why the camera faces our WoL so much; because he didn’t do it for the Scions; he did it for us

I also liked the fact that he put clothes on her. That's so mindful and respectful of him.

@@VillainApologist_ right cuz a friend dies not like seeing his friend be sad qhen he can do something about it

I think he did it only to gain our trust to help his goals of the rejoining. He didnt care about how we felt only that his plan successfully is fulfilled.

That was my experience with him. It added so much to that cutscene as it poured rain while he went on about the light being purged from the sky.

“Remember us. Remember that we once lived.”

@@jacobb5484 *Nods in Agreement*

I have to say he is the ONE Ascian I miss. I was upset that he got killed off. I know why he had to go, but they made him to loveable............ I want him to come back lol.

I want to ask something. I need an answer. I suspect Hades was right all along. How? He said when he was explaining what Hydalyn did to his world that SEVEN times rejoined hero of the source may be an answer for him. A solution. We failed him, at least that what he was thinking, but I want to ask. WASN'T OUR MERGING WITH ARDBERT OUR SEVENTH REJOINING?! Then we had no problem with handling light in us. He never was anywhere near when Ardbert was around. He could not see that actually there is a wandering soul, our shard. G'raha Tia rejoined when he arrived in the First. Same for Scihons, BUT Ardbert was roaming free! Emet Selch called Lahabrea an idiot so he will not know what he saw in us. Elidibus does not remember much (if he died aswell) Emet Selch is THE ONLY ONE who can explain to us why he did mean, what he saw in us. If Pandemonium poster has Lahabrea's face on it I hope they will bring back Emet Selch as well. God I would be soo happy to see him. So. After such long introduction. The question is: How many times we were rejoined before the one with Ardbert? Was it 6 times and Emet Selch was right and we are to fulfill his hopes? Or we needed to be rejoined 8th times to handle the light?

I miss him so much. He might be my spirit animal

Be honest, this sort of troll is 100% in character for Emet Selch.

"Called the Emperor of Garlemald a dingus". Not gonna lie, that made me snicker.

"swanned out from behind the throne and called the Emperor of Garlemald a dingus." I love this. 🤣💯 I fell in love with him in that moment watching him heckle Varis too. Never expected him to make me sob by the end of Shadowbringers. I finished that expac last week and I'm still not over it. What a fantastic character

TEAM DADDY

Fandaniel joins the chat

Well he does enjoy theatrics. He did gift the theatre airship from the Dalmasca raids back when he was emperor and he (as emperor) was described as a "Patron of the Arts".

@@7moody771 he was my first thought lol he’s like a ballerina

He's nit an anti villian he's and tragic villian.

He's still a villian.

same...

Funny to catch this comment, when I accidentally skip this cutscene and was looking for this marker.

He's pretty much a complete prick, but his VA did a great job.

Zenos is so hollow. I would rather have seen more of Varis than Zenos. There really is damn near no depth to Zenos. He feels tired, and has very much worn out his welcome.

Agreed. Though I'm still holding out some hope that Varis might come back in some form. We did get Memoria Misera at least but that just makes me want a Regula or Gaius Ex. Varis did theoretically succeed in bringing Emet-Selch back via clone bodies, so maybe he might come back through that. Xande did it, why not Varis?

@@BlazeIgnitus you can't always have deep characters. When every character has deep two sided lore, more room for errors are made and it gets harder and harder to justify events. This is a game after all. I agree deep and engaging characters make people like zenos seem hollow, but morall ambiguous racters don't forward the plot nearly as fast or as intense as a straight up evil characters. This is a issue with literature in general, and you can see this is many other games movies or stories. The more ambiguous a antagonist is, the harder it is to justify the protagonists actions and eventually you run into a wall of " well, why am I doing this"? You could add on another morally ambiguous character, to push the plot forward but they fail to push it as far as what the writer wants since they then have to dive into that characters reasoning in depth. Or you can just use a actual evil character abd boom you have instant justification and a way to push the plot forward without a ton of filler. I'm not saying zenos is perfect, but peoples dislike of him because hes evil isn't a good reason, there's other reasons sure, but the core design and purpose of zenos is to push the plot forward and is used in every other form of literature. Anti heros or understandable villains are a breathe of fresh air, but these villains takes years to develop and a ton of lore dedicated to them. ,more then the average character really.

@@BlazeIgnitus yall say that now. people said that about emet in stormblood, but look how he turned out. meanwhile varis was your average "evil for the sake of his country" villain. typical tyrant. he would have died to the WoL if he lived anyway because the dude just wanted to plant a boot on eorzeas face. that was his grand motivation for invading over and over again. there was nothing unique or interesting about varis, and im glad they quickly got him out of the way to make space for villains like emet. as for zenos, he's basically a blank slate and they likely did that on purpose. we know next to nothing about him, outside of his obsession with strength. perfect set-up for character expansion.

If he deeply cares about his people he should of let them go! You cant bring back the dead after thousands of years. And also been a better grandfather to Varis and great grandfather to Zenos.

I miss him just randomly popping up for a chat.

Remember us...remeber that we once lived.

Well...

He's a professor, he must needs concentrate to conduct his work, his...research.

We can easily do it without his backstory. His intentions are enough.

Well, kinda, he did also try to kill us many times, and even if we survived the next like 6 rejoinings, which is only if his hypothesis about the thirteenth true (if the 1st, a world with a huge disparity towards light was rejoined, then the fourteenth would be joined along with it.), he still did plan on sacrificing everyone else who's alive to Zodiark.

@@generaln0nsense848 yeeeeah and I wondered how long that "patronage" would of lasted since Emet wanted WoL whole again.

"Should you survive the remaining calamities, you would become our equal". Bullshit.

@@brittanyhayes1043 If the WoL could contain all of the Light that was destroying the First, then we would prove to Emet that the sundered people are able to one day rise to the level of the Ancients. WITHOUT requiring further rejoinings to do so. Emet is tired of all the killing, he's tired of carrying the burden of his entire race on his shoulders for 10,000 years. One of the short stories they released goes into details, he was incredibly close to simply giving up on the original plan and returning himself to the lifestream. The bitter irony is that at the very end, with Ardbert's soul merged into our own, we met Emet's criteria. It was too late for us not to fight each other to the death, but in that moment we ascended one step closer to the Ancients. He even left the crystal of Azem around because he knew we'd need it to kill Eldibus and end his suffering. He didn't want him to be the last unsundered left, and lose his mind even further. He left us the tools to mercy kill his friend, entrusting us with the future of the star so he could finally rest.

@@CrashB111 He dosent have the right to tell our character if they are worthy of saving the star. Nor worthy of living if he thinks them not truly alive.

Agito Dragoon FF has always had the best villains. Although, I find Emet to be the only likable villain in this game.

@@memyself6659 Probably helps that he's the only villian so far that hasn't had their presence drawn out past their prime

@@memyself6659 I dunno, I kinda liked Gaius in ARR. You gotta respect a guy that cares so much about his underlings that he will knock a fellow Garlean's lights out if they dare talk shit about one of his men just for being conscripted from another country. This is also the guy that'll basically promote a prisoner of war up to being his left-hand man if he shows himself to have the right stuff for the job. Most of the time you get villains treating their own subordinates like trash to highlight how evil they are, but Gaius was legit.

I doubt Disney is going to listen to a bunch of body pillow loving weeb neckbeards on how to write a successful character. Especially when they're basing it on one of the hammiest of ham fisted overdramatic villains to ever grace a FF game.

@@mdc3227 well looking at Cruella in their new live action bomb it would behoove them to maybe look to the East to witness what an actual likeable villain looks like

There has been a rumor, that the Shoebill we can get as minion from Amaurot Dungeon, is Hades. Now it has been hinted by SE, that this theory is actually true. So, in a way, he is still with us.

Spoilers for 5.3, White Day 2020 and the short story Ere Our Curtain Falls: If it helps, the White Day blog from earlier this year heavily implies that Emet is still in the lifestream, and Ere Our Curtain Falls says that the "shade" we see of him in the 5.3 trial _is_ actually him saving us. While I don't think we'll be seeing him in-game anymore (at least in the MSQs), he doesn't seem to be totally dead.

when he "died" 7 wisp things flew away 1:54:50. Homie ain't gone, he just going back to Garlemald for a fresh vessel courtesy of his grandson. He's narrating part of the endwalker trailer with "current" events so he still around

hows that mid-way cutscene in the 5.3 trial treating ya

@@Lillymon21 right in the feels

Now you know how Emet felt about his comrades lost in the sundering.

@@beefytaquitos Yeah but he still needed to be defeated. His backstory does not cover his intentions to just totally accept it and die.

It was like that on my playthrough too

It makes it much funnier though, adds to the sarcasm.

Indeed. Every time I watch that scene, it makes my heart clench, because you can see that Emet-Selch was genuinely happy to see you in that moment. No schemes, just you, his old friend. You can see all the spots where he really wishes you remembered and can see just how genuine his hope is that you will be able to contain the light. It's sad that it took just one more rejoining for you to be able to do so and by that point it was too late, the fight was inevitable. I truly do wonder what he would have done had we managed to contain it sooner, especially as he expressed a desire to reach his goals without further bloodshed. Would he have changed course or would he have tried to use us in a different way? Or perhaps he intended to die and pass it all on to us regardless? So many questions.

I did exactly that and almost died from laughter x')) ♥

Do you think Hythlo in the aether sea is roasting Hades?

@@magpieinthelibrary5691 that's total the first thing that he did whenever they were reunited

@@magpieinthelibrary5691 Unfortunately... No. Hythlo never joined with the Aetherial Sea, he was stuck inside Zodiark all those long years.

May have something to do with the summoning of other Warriors by Elibus to attack you. And then there's the guy who's wearing the skin of Ardbert.

@@christianrodriguez8577 You were surprisingly on point with this prediction man. Kudos!

@@816262 Thanks! Did not see the ghost warriors and Mr Final Fantasy himself appearing though.

59:54 😭

Jack Sparrow moment

And I love it because I think that’s exactly how the player character is supposed to feel. They did such a great job with his character.

Favorite character by far because of this progression

No it doesn't just shows he's in the wrong.

You could say he's the 2nd best boss in the series if you take off the summon at the top.

I don't know a ton about all of the Final Fantasies, but so far Emet Selch is by far the most amazing. Literally suffering from his own sanity and refusing to give it up because of his unending resolve to do what he knows to be the right thing. Compared to that Sephiroth's sad descent into ignorant madness is almost laughable. Are there are other antagonists that even compare to Emet? I do tire of the villains who lack just motivation and rationale.

​@@CampaignerSC one of the way to explanation Sephiroth is.. he read too many uncanny books, and dramatic make sanity straight down to 0. lol

Man y'all haters obsession with Sephiroth is hilarious. Like it or not he's the poster boy for Final Fantasy villains and the most iconic. 😂

@@CampaignerSC In FF I'd say Kuja was a pretty good villain (FF9) as were the villains in FFTactics (not advanced). In outside of FF lore I think Kreia from Knights of the Old Republic 2 is widely considered one of the best written villains in gaming.

I prefer Zenos "Obsession with capital O" myself.

@@1986Hikaru why not both, honestly thats just me I like both Emet and Zenos

It would be like having a parent with Dementia except it’s everyone but the council and it goes on for millennia.

No thanks. 👎

I would. Screw him.

especially fandaniel

@@charliemcmillan4561 You mean Fandamniel, amiright? (elbow nudge)

I dont

No he was . He literally said "I will not feel guilty if I kill you" and "once I reclaim my heritage, I will erase you from history". Hes not a good guy.

He was definitely trying to kill us to destroy us.

Yep. After that scene I knew there was much more to him than that. More of a tragic story than an evil one

Fandaniel is more dangerous, mindset wise. he WANTS to die and is not scared to above and beyond to do so. but I also feel like that childish drive is gonna be a weak point

@@daanroelofs119 I wont say its dangerous. If he is dangerous, he would've done something earlier. But the way he decided to act now is like saying, oh mom and dad is gone, lets go eat all the ice cream! Regardless, Ishikawa and the writing team better do something amazing to counter act this bullshit.

@@Zuhri69 I think the unsundered Ascians had some measure of mental/spiritual control or domination over their sundered underlings. The sense that I've gotten is that now that that control is gone, Fandaniel can do whatever the hell he wants now, which he was unable to before while his "superiors" were there to put a leash on him. I will say that I'm also a bit skeptical about the story at the moment. A lot of it is going to depend on what's going on in Sharlyan. That's where I see the most potential in this storyline.

@@benpeterson4673 Lol, that just made it more lame though. The fact that we defeated Elidibus and Emet Selch and now we have to contend with the "inferior" Ascian. But, I will still wait before passing judgment. I was not into ShB in the beginning, and I was proven wrong. Really hope the writing team prepare some great surprise in store. But if they turn it into typical anime bull, in which the asshole villain somehow get away with it, or worst, another Ilbert, I'll rage.

@@Zuhri69 I think there's something you're missing here. For all their power, there were things that the Ascians were unwilling to do. Even Lahabrea wasn't about to go around destroying things for destruction's sake. Fandaniel doesn't have those constraints, so while he may be less individually powerful than either Emet-Selch or Elidibus, that doesn't mean he's not more dangerous. They were trying to fix something and he's trying to break it, the former is more difficult than the latter.

Thank you for this time stamp I forgot how good that clip is.

More like "AYEEEEEEEEEE~!" 😂

Give him a chance. Before Shadowbringers Emet felt lackluster too. Fandaniel still have time to shine

@@KakaowyKruk I have thought about this a lot. Fandaniel (let's be honest, a bad name) worried me, but Emet-Selch was also kind of bland at the end of Stormblood too. I have a lot of faith in the narrative team.

poor fandangle. he's but the appetizer to zenos.

What if Fandaniel is the reason for the Calamity?

@@gamma00crucis After Emet, I'm kind of worried about the antagonists for the next expansion. Fandaniel just seems like a deranged ass(ian), which makes for very few opportunities to make us care about him and his plans. Zenos, for all he's been through, is still as one-dimensional as ever. I absolutely loved Emet though, he's so incredibly well written it's insane, and in Stormblood he wasn't all that interesting either. I'll keep my hopes up, however, I'm still very excited to see what SE comes up with for this new dastardly duo.

Was he really a villain? Or someone that wants to save his race of people and everyone to make them whole again

@@Mysteryof89 Yes. His plans would involve sacrificing everyone who is on the Source once all the Rejoinings are complete, to restore everyone who was lost in the first two sacrifices to Zodiark. He's absolutely a villain. A tragic one, yes, but a villain all the same.

@@Mysteryof89 I will take that as a rhetorical question. Feel free to take a side.

@@Bongaboi151 It was rhetorical :O

@@BlazeIgnitus Well... if humans were all split into chimps and you were one of the last humans alive, would you sacrifice all of those chimps to bring us all back? Especially knowing that you had the power to do so? That's Emet's entire story. When it comes to science alone the human race is fine with sacrificing lesser things (animals) in order to save the lives of our fellow humans. Is that truly villainous? If Emet is a villain then so are all of us.

Yep, same here. I barely finished it this month and had to twist the knife in the emotional wounds just a bit more.

"You will not stop our Journey!" ;)

Can say with certainty my first impression was "I want to punch him."

@@nathanshepherd7277 I don't blame you one bit.

He made me crack up because of how unexpected it all is. Even more with VARIS of all characters, who is the most "serious" Royal Garlean. I found their initial interaction hilarious 🤣 Reading proper Lore later, this scene takes an entirely new meaning. They truly made the perfect villain. If you're curious, Emet as Solus was very cruel to Varis -- and in turn so was Varis to Zenos. I can't wait for the day Azem/WoL confronts him now both with all proper memories restored. I feel (EW SPOILERS) that after learning the full truth, Emet-Selch would actually be regretful of his actions. Good thing we lowkey cleaned up his entire Garlean bloodline almost without trying... 😬. Hythlodaeus is just preparing the popcorn for that confrontation and I know it.

@@thecherryontop3251 wait, have you not gotten to Endwalker yet?

It makes sense that he does, being one of the most gifted soul readers of all of the ancients. Him and Hythlodaeus, with their combined skills in that field, immediately surmise you are Azem's familiar when you go back in time from the color of your soul's existence alone. He knows better than anyone that we are capable of some real BULLshit because of his thousands of years of interactions with our Ancient counterpart

We all owe him big time for saving our favourite waifu best girl.

@@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind what? he saved Alisaie too??

And it makes sense that it was so easy for him considering his true name Hades.

And for that I will never forgive him

Yeah that was a pretty big deal for my warrior of light. And then the big softie went and helped save her a second time. Ayzema's tits, Emet! Get reincarnated soon so I can pay you back properly

how?

I’d settle for his hand wave for an emote

We did get a.. certain bird as a minion.

It would never leave my side if they did make one, I’m a little sad urianger’s in only on the mog station

We have our goals, he has his. Sorrow for enemies is our downfall. Both sides come to save what is dearest. We just won. Do not feel sorrow for fallen men who fight for their hearts. The line between good and evil is purely man made. He chose his fate as we did ours. I will give succor tho his cause but between destruction and salvation the choice is obvious.

@@Fluffykunn I mean if we didn’t have plot armor I’m pretty sure he would have won lol

Imagine the pain it would be losing the people on the source and the first to the Light and to being gassed. He kinda deserved to get axed.

@@brittanyhayes1043 Imagine the pain seeing your friends and families broken to pieces of souls put into lesser beings.It's like seeing the corpses of your friends everywhere you go for thousands of years. Not to mention knowing that there is a way to restore them, everyone would take that route.

@@RoyalKnightish no not everybody will make that route. Especially with a primal involved.

See I disagree. I enjoyed him more than any other Ascian from the outset. I remember sitting up and paying attention. Even have a text message exchange before starting Shb where I said he was my favorite Ascian. The voice acting is credited for that probably, since if his delivery wasn't so amazing I probably wouldn't have enjoyed him as much.

Not really

Timestamp? :D

There's actually much more meaning to this. It may sound as a small joke, but he is working towards a single goal of rejoining the worlds, to bring back his brothers and sisters sacrificed to Zodiark. In a way, he's saying "I'm constantly thinking about all our lost breathens and to bring them back." This is how he is able to push himself on for centuries. That, and with the constant slouch he has on his posture.......

This is just my headcannon but I feel this is a line he "stole" from Azem. We know this Emet copies a lot of mannerisms of the people he loved and for some reason, this line feels so much like something Azem would say 😂 always plotting something fits the bill for them.

What do you mean? We already have a minion of emet: Shoebill

Or a mount

@@kapsi I think his minstrel trial has one

KUPO.