I will reference it in spanish then. . . Norteños

U got me in that one

Faz xD

I'm curious

Why did you name and misspell MC Kawakami?

Maruki; "I can grant you your dreams!" Most: "I don't need this, I can deal with reality!" Akechi: "F*CK YOU, I'M PISSED OFF AND I WANNA BEAT YOU UP!"

When you think back on it, Joker is the only one who knows that Akechi will disappear if reality is reverted, so Akechi could also be telling Maruki to shut up to hide that fact from the rest of the team so they don't get distracted by it.

More like Akechi: Didn't ask, don't need it, GO ****** YOURSELF.

@@colonelslanders3955 If that's the case we have to hand it so Atlus for another incredible detail

@@colonelslanders3955 Actually, it's even better than that. Akechi is hiding it from the others because he knows they'll hesitate if they find out. He also thinks it's asinine that he was brought back to life, just because it would be to help Akira (Joker) get closure and help develop a relationship. Akechi says in one scene that being brought back to simply help make someone else feel better is bullshit and give his life no meaning.

@Gus Jp lol

I just have this image of that actually happening. Like 4 people fight, Maruki pleads to them and while they make their speech Akechi is just flipping them off.

That’s why I love Akechi, he doesn’t want to prove himself to anyone he just wants destroy his enemies.

I know its not a battle betwen good guys and bad guys but a battle of idea but it suck wen you are forced to fight masuki even tho i aggree with him .... Masuki is really Obito uchiwa all over again personaly ... Puting everyone in their own individual matrix weare everyone will be happy .... Because A girl he loved died ... No comment for Futaba? She the one who need the most of a therapist she as agoraphobia lol

@@jackattacktron1000 well he knew he was going to die. He just wanted a rush and he did have a fucked up way of thinking anyways.

A wise man indeed (Also best confidant)

More like Best-Boy-Tora.

The world needs more politicians like Tora

So-Good Tora

Billy Siravo you said it

Me: As much as I wanted him alive, I honor Akechi’s wishes.

That's some incredible determination. Choosing your life and potential happiness to stand for what you believe to be true

Akechi sounds like Door-kun

@@Tedward506 Don't insult P3MC.

@@Tedward506 Door-kun and Akechi are similair on that "sacrificing yourself" thing but Akechi does it for selfish reasons: he doesnt want ANYBODY to have control over him and as Marukis "creation" he rejects this reality fullforce. Tho he truely trusts Joker and does care about him, in his own ways. (just look at the Crown Nav comment when Joker has rage :"D )

the ending you get for it isnt even treated as a bad one either, kind of helps put weight to his words that he wants to make a peaceful world

Brandon Withnell That's what makes it so disturbing. Even more disturbing than Persona 3's bad ending where they just accept death. In this ending it's all happy and fun times but when you're the player and sit back and think about the choice you made you can't get over the fact that you've subjected your friends and family to basically a lie that resembles honesty. It's kinda creepy just how much the truth can be deception in disguise.

@@brandonwithnell612 It's a horrible end when you remember what the protagonists of Persona 3 and Persona 4 fought for, and how taking Maruki's deal just invalidates all of it. Humanity is doomed to stagnate forever. With everyone's wishes coming true as lies become reality, there is no longer any room for personal growth from accepting death and making the best of your life, or any reason for humanity to reach out to the truth, rendering Makoto Yuki's death, and all of Yu's adventures in the TV World completely meaningless. You also technically murder Sumire by letting Maruki delete her personality and override it with Kasumi's, so yeah.

it goes along with Maruki's personality, he doesn't want to fight you and is doing everything in his power to bring you to his side.

Thank god I had the dialogue going on auto otherwise I would've accidentally said yes

In another video i saw him in a snowman costume and i wheezed at him because when he says "i dont care what i look like" while looking like an idiot in the team

He looks drunk wheeze

I could not take it seriously but it did make me laugh a lot so there’s that

Some dude streaming the final boss got Morgana's conversation. He was wearing the outfit with the rainbow afro, lmao

@@abslzero Well you know that only shows his point more hehe.

He can only be talk no jutsued by people he throw his glows at

Did akechi really died or not?

akang kosim True ending Maruki and Joker confirm he’s been dead, he’s only here cuz Phantom Thieves wanted to save him (changed reality by Maruki). If you get the true ending, plus max Akechis confidant, you get a bonus scene where he appears as Joker leaves. (Though you can’t see his face). 🤷‍♂️

Ahh I see

@@dredgenleo9614 But if he is a result of Joker's desire to see him back, wouldn't have he disappear the moment Joker rejected Maruki's reality. Akechi continues to exist even after MC rejects said reality.

@@ColdKitty "I'm a bit preoccupied at the moment, SO DO YOUR GOD DAMN JOB."

Then again, he basically told him no multiple times already.

In a way, I believe Maruki reminds Akechi of Shido, if alot less ruthless and selfish. He's still forcing him to be his toy for Joker's wish and that completely goes against his beliefs.

He's dead. HUH! PT! Akechi is dead!

If crow was there during the Yaldaboath ark, he would've cursed out that overgrown coffee mug to hell and back

Over analyzing it

@@goddessyamato5238 I want to make one of those dumbass “Cope” “L” remarks but I at least have enough class to say I want to do them as my comment instead. I have no idea what I’m saying

Is it under someone else's finger? Maruki doesn't see himself as a king, and truly wants the best for everyone. If he didn't, the fight would never have started. Maruke could have just made it so that Yuske was never taken in by Madarame, or so that Madarame never let his mother die. There are so many ways in which these problems could be easily alleviated, so why fight that?

@@plaidhatter1674 he has a reconditioning part of his palace he decides what life would be the easiest for you to live he ain’t a saint no one in this story is But maruki dangled sumi’s and akechi’s lives/view fully trying to guilt joker into accepting his view, his reality and ideology A world without problems outside of the Mementos and it’s missions in the 3rd semester pointing out that everything is not fine The only people who know they are being ruled over have seen what marukis reality truly is a dictatorship even if he is a good one he is still a dictator he is the final say

@@goddessyamato5238 they're not at all overanalyzing.

Sadly Billy's reality betrayed him. He passed away a few days ago sadly.

rest in peace

Amazing take. I agree

Then why not take Maruki on his offer? He could make a world where the pain never happened, and the tormentors were never tormentors. The world can only be saved by a miracle as mighty as the one Maruki gave, so why not take it?

@@plaidhatter1674 you would throw away All you fighted for Just for a perfect world?

@@cmsosh4012 That's kinda what we are fighting for.

@@plaidhatter1674 actually, i only did fight Maruki, because I wanted to see his Boss fight

"I want to be Madara mixed with Dio but with a good person personality"

_Madara? Really? We gonna act like people like Maruki's girlfriend, who would much rather a world without their pain, exsist? The PT's are hypocrites. Changing a person's heart is basically a mini Maruki every time they do it. So everyone is Madera then._

​@@sugoiboyxl8345 The PT's are nowhere near like Maruki. Yes they share the same similarities as changing one's cognition, but the end results are vastly different. Maruki wants to wash away the pain forever and create a world where only happiness and success exist. The PT's change the hearts of ruthless criminals who caused a great deal of pain and suffering to those who have been affected, but pain is still present before and after the change of heart. If the PT's were like Maruki at all, they would have gladly accepted his world, but they know that pain and suffering is needed to grow and develop even if life sucks at times.

@@shade3385 Hell, their targets are all people who would not change or admit to their crimes otherwise (or in the case of Futaba or Maruki, are horribly misguided at best or suicidal at worst and desperately need an intervention). Maruki has no such limitation and is more than willing to interfere in people's lives, even when they don't need his help. The only one who needed his help at some point was Sumire and even then, her issues were only solved by her working to overcome them after she was forced to face reality (although it should be noted that if Maruki didnt alter her cognition, she would have probably attempted to kill herself). He went from someone who helped people through their issues and used his power as a last resort to a moral busybody who is happy to change people's entire lives on a whim because he feels they would be happier that way. Kinda like a system of government that puts people in positions since they think that person would do better there, regardless of whether or not they can actually perform in those roles.

Lord Typh Maruki didn’t use his power as a last resort when it came to therapy. He used it as the initial solution. Without consent, and only granting their unconscious desire.

KONO DIO DA

Why do i Imagine Akechi doing that then screaming “PANCAKES” then jumping into fire😂😆

Underrated comment

That unexpected WRYYYYYYYY genuinely make me giggle a bit And totally feel like something Akechi will do

Futaba: Ear Machine Broke

@@Nosretep Funny seeing he never tempts Futaba.

Unrelated but didn't I see you in a Juno Songs comment section a couple hours ago

And the best part is that Akechi doesn’t even throw his life away. In the hidden ending he’s still alive.

@@ndDavilos He didn't know that however due to the gap in his memory

I believe there can be one of two reasons for this: One, Maruki messes with Akechi’s cognition while reality was distorted to make him forget what happened, giving the impression he had died. Two, Akechi was pretending to know he would disappear, secretly knowing he wouldn’t. Akechi does like to pretend and is incredibly skilled at doing so.

@@ndDavilos Big theme of the 3rd semester was Akechi being his real self. I honestly doubt he had a reason to lie at that point. Also i don't think Maruki was malicious enough to do that and if he did he would have told us afterwards. Maruki was genuinely a what you see is what you get kind of dude

It's probably Maruki messing with Akechis cognition, reasons: - Unlike the other dead characters (Okumura and Wakaba) Akechi doesn't dissappear when Joker realizes that he is in a fake reality. - Similarly Akechi retains his "unique" personality unlike Wakaba, Okumura, and Madarame who all become the ideal versions the Phantom Thieves imagine them to be (for reference refer to the fake reality ending to see Jokers cognition of Akechis personality.) - Akechi appeared 5 days before any of the other reality bending changes and before Joker has his dream in the school. - I can see Maruki giving Akechi a gap in cognition if he thought it was for his own good - seeing as unlike the other Phantom Thieves Maruki did not have a chance to ever confront Akechi personally and does not have a grasp on what his wish actually is. Ofcourse this is a story between a thief and a detective - and one of it's tropes is leaving the viewer wondering whether characters are actually alive or not (Sherlock and Moriarty). So in the end if you hate Akechi you can write him off as dead, but if you love him there are plenty of ways he could have survived - (his persona is Loki after all...)

Golden? I figured it'd be worthy of Royalty.

@@LyokoGem Even a FEStival?

He really decided that the facade was too tiring, so he just went all emo

That's quite the funny joke. I may have to vomit.

I think it's reloaded

"Cognitive psience, son!"

@@dededeisdosh4450 It hardens in response to cognitive trauma!

@@Deadcell666 “You can’t die here, Goro!

@@epicjeong Akechi: "Don't you dare tempt me to try, I still need to kick your ass!"

He's essentially an utilitarian extremist.

Ugh, after finishing the game every time I go back to when Sumire was “Kasumi”, all I could think of what Yusuke said that bcame a meme: “That was truly cringeworthy.” Not because I didn’t like it, but because she was in denial and masquerading as a dead person. The reason/trauma behind it hurts, but it didn’t hurt as much as seeing Sumire putting on that false smile, and running from the truth. It’s like on the inside, Sumire is dying. Picking that fake ending meant you killed Sumire and this walking husk of a dead person remained.

@@mystery8820 It's essentially how Maruki's reality works. He only realize the wishes of the people that are in line with his ideas, the rest will gets brainwashed. This is represented in his palace through the psychology test and the weird purple room. This is essentially not very different from Yaldabaoth plan to nullify everyone that he doesn't like in the vanilla game.

Hella well written thought process here. We think struggle can eventually lead to triumph. Maruki showed in each of his questions in the palace that struggle was not an option and he forced that

I Never Wanted To Fight Him, I Cried Way More Than When Morgana "Died".

It is. I feel like he even agrees with Maruki. But he's done take the easy way and it's ready to work hard. Such a great character

How the hell that made u cry

@@WastelandH In Maruki's eyes, it isn't the easy way, it's the only way.

“Yeah? Well, too bad for you- I’m done running away from my problems!”

How about making Haru able to drive?

Bruh, I hate you for making me laugh at this XD

Then persona 5 Strikers happened.

That’s our Haru, you show them how you can shine and be so lovable with only amount of screen time❣️

Haru: At least I'm rich!

Indeed. I never thought that I admire someone crazy like him, but he's right. Maruki isn't different of the other adults. His intentions are tempting and evil at once, with a touch of good.

Maruki is the sort of person who stops a lecture if one student doesn't get it. He would gladly try and fix all of their problems, 1 by one. The only problem here with the utopia is that it forces people to live in a way that makes them happy. If you were told you could live a truly happy life by following an instruction manual, wouldn't you take it?

@@plaidhatter1674 reminds me of how in the Lego movie it was basically a utopia where everyone lived by following a instruction manual.

@@plaidhatter1674 If that manual would mess with my memories and would stop people from growing out of themselves, then I wouldn't take it. And don't forget, in this ending it's even stated that Maruki didn't think about those people who want to take it up against the world. When I played this game I also was conflicted on which ending would be the better one, but after hearing everything the Phantomthieves had to say about this, I just couldn't do it

@@hue_tjark yes, finished the game first time yesterday, it’s so good how this teaches you I mean if we actually think about it, if we’d have thought about a world where everyone is happy before playing royal, of course everyone would say they’d want it, but if you actually experience that world then you’ll see how unsettling it is (if it’s distorted as maruki s one which probably must be to make EVERYONE happy and bring the deads alive) and how the pain of the life still has a great role in the development of a person, sumire is a great example of that I kinda get maruki tho and am so sad for him cuz he actually would give us that world he’s genuinely kind lol not corrupted, and god I love throw away your mask

Something I’ve found in my life is that although I’ve gone through some really awful situations, I’ve come out of those with positive outcomes too. My best friend helped me out through some really truly awful abuse by another person I thought was my friend. This goes for people I know, too. My mother had to move overseas to make enough money for our family because wages close to home just wouldn’t cut it. At the time, it was extremely stressful, and we had a lot of really nasty arguments. Although we’ve had to live apart, and it’s tough not being able to see each other, my mom has had the benefit of being able to travel and honestly our relationship has improved as well. If you took a world where none of the bad things ever happened or any of the risks, then yes, it does spare you the pain and regrets you suffered in life. But that means you don’t get any of the growth or the benefits, either. It’s only living half a life. It’s a shame that Maruki’s approach has to be so all-or-nothing: his power could be truly beneficial to heal the hearts of people who have been truly, horribly damaged. But the sad irony of it is that he wouldn’t have that power at all in the first place if it wasn’t for his insane level of idealism, hence why his Persona is Azathoth, the Blind God. I could hope that maybe after his change of heart, he could maybe find the internal balance and peace to only use his power where it is truly needed, and with the full knowledge and consent of the people he does it to. Maybe only temporarily, to see if it’s something they actually, truly want or if they can turn things around like Sumire did. Rumi, his girlfriend was a tragic case-I think that what he was able to do for her was a miracle and a good thing, it objectively made her life better, but he took that singular miracle and started to become incredibly warped in his thinking. It seems like the main difference between him and the Phantom Thieves is that he lacked anyone else around him to rein in his more extreme thoughts. Kind of like Akechi in that way too, with both having the natural ability to influence people’s hearts.

”What, and throw away my role as a father again? No way in hell, bud!" "My "heart" tells me those commands are wrong! I have a "heart" strong enough to choose my own path!"

@@AkemiTheSunbro perfection. Both of these comments

My god these are so good

Best one so far.

Sophie: If I can't help others be free, then how can I be free!? My friends showed me what it means to make a better path for people as humanity's companion and Ichinose gave me that directive, I refuse to throw any of it away!!

Crow has an amaterasu fire cape ... it's just how you imagine your rebelious will

Hate to break it to you but that's an animation, not physics.

They still deserve praise for those animations

this is pure. we appreciate

@@cakeistasty-yy38 Thankies!!

I think Futaba saying that would be lying to herself. Futaba obviously desires the family she had in Maruki's reality. Her speech should to accept the pain of true reality like the rest of them.

@@blueboxkirby1283 My line of thinking for my makeshift Futaba's speech comes from her arc, her confidant and snippets in Sojiro's confidant. Yes she will always want to be with Wakaba, as would everyone else in the team to have their desires. Considering that the end of her arc is her trying to accept that her mom is gone (which in turn creates the drive to join the Phantom Thieves to find out who killed her), I felt like the speech I gave her is rather fitting. Of course, that's up to interpretation. The family part I came up with comes from a snippet in Sojiro's confidant. By I think Rank 8, there's evidence that she sees Joker, Morgana and the Phantom Thieves as family. Albeit it was from an emotional outburst towards Sojiro, but that doesn't make it any less true. The family that Futaba is referring to in my speech isn't just Sojiro and Joker, but the rest of the Phantom Thieves, Kana-chan, and any other friends she has made. ... OK, maybe saying that she's past wanting to live with her mom again is a stretch. But I tried! >.

@@lavistalimited4747 Yea I totally agree with her seeing Joker Morgana and the rest of theives as family. The only problem I had with the speech you gave her is the part where she says she's past wanting her mom, otherwise the speech is great.

"Kirby, you can enjoy life to the fullest without needing to worry about anyone trying to steal your food again!" "Poi!" "You mean to say you enjoy these adventures!?" ///// "Mario, you don't have to keep fighting to save Peach! You can have your happily ever after!" "I earn my happily ever after every time I go on another journey! I don't need you to give it to me!" ////// "Pikachu, you can live a life of leisure! No more fighting for everything!" "Pi!" "You fight for fun!? What life is that!?" ///// "Ness, I can let you live in your home without ever having had to face Gigyas! Porky could even be your friend and live his own life of pleasure as well!" "I don't need that! Porky made his choice and I made mine, and I'd go on my adventure all over again in a heartbeat!" //////// (To Wild) "Link, do you not wish to just live with Zelda? You can relinquish your knighthood and live the life of an everyman like you've always dreamed!" "I'm not meant to be an everyman, and I took my oath as a knight by choice. I'm not the me from 100 years ago anymore, and I'll face 100, no, A MILLION CALAMITIES before letting anyone make another choice for me again!" //////// "Lucario, I know you feel the pain around you from the masses, do you not wish to be unburdened with the power of Aura?" "The pain is balanced by the pleasure that comes from helping others. I don't need an Unburden when I know what I do is Justified!" //////// "Bowser, you can rule your kingdom with prosperity, would you not want that with your own lover?" "I'll find my own love and grow my kingdom on my own! My subjects stand by me through it all, and I don't need some peasant lower than a Plumber acting like he's above me!" //////////// "Greninja, you can live without threat of anyone trying to destroy your home, why would you turn that down?" "Kreya!" "You're that sure of yourself?" /////// "Palutena, would you not wish-" "I don't need anyone gaining godhood by my side! A queen can rule on her own no problem!" /////// (To Toon) "Link, your world doesn't need to be the way it is. You can live your life without the need for new disasters but still go on adventures!" "Without risk there's no reward! My adventures with Tetra are fulfilling danger and all!" ///////// "Bayonetta, I can give you the childhood you deserved, why do you still fight for the life you've lifed?" "You're just as foolish at the Lumis Sages were, without darkness there is no light. I'll take my pleasure with a side of suffering over any purity you offer!" //////// "Trainers, you can live in harmony with your Pokémon, and without those teams trying to destroy your way of life! Please, children shouldn't have to fight these wars" (Red) "And adults shouldn't be trying to force their way of life on children!" (Leaf) "You claim you want to help us but what you do is no different than Giovanni! We live our lives the way we want, and you shouldn't take that from anyone!" //////////// "Koopalings, would you not take your own lives to be that of fun and laughter over always fighting?" "Bowser never forces us into anything. He taught us on our own, and you should guide instead of control too!" ////////// "Peach! Surely you wish for peace across the land! A life with Mario no less!" "Without war there is no life to be had, and peace is a part of that as well. I know Mario is going to save me every time, don't try to fool me with your idealism!" ///////// (To Young Link) "Link, do you not tire of the way the darkness drags on? Allow yourself to be a kid again, this time without losing out on growing up!" "My life is the way it is for a reason, and I'll see it through every life I have. Even a bajillion years from now I'll always be me. I'm a hero before anything, and I'm not gonna let some cheap copy of Majora take that from me!" /////////////// "Mewtwo, humanity's treatment of you was atrocious unlike any other individual. I can give you the life of peace and love you deserve! Or even relieve you of all the trauma you suffered!" "I learned to look past the circumstances outside of one's control long ago, but you still use your own control to force any choice away from others! You have become just as abhorrent as the humans who tried to control myself, and even more so than the trainers who abuse the Pokémon they seek to capture!" /////////// "Donkey Kong, you can be free of ever being forced to entertain! Why do you not allow yourself to have always been free?" "I earned my freedom without your help, and I refuse to be a prisoner again. I don't care if it's K-Rool, Mario, or anyone else! I won't let them be imprisoned for something they couldn't control either!" //////////// "Ganon, imagine for a moment you could have your kingdom be fruitful without the Triforce or the constant fights! The Gerudo could all be fruitful without any of the demonic presence you had thrust upon you!" "Heh, no thanks you god wannabe. I'm plenty satisfied earning my power even beyond my Triforce. If anyone subjugates the world then it's me and me alone! I'll fight in service of Hylia to stop you before ever allowing anyone to earn godhood before I can!" ////////// "Sonic, imagine a world without pollutants! Where nature itself can thrive unhindered!" "Sounds too slow for my liking. I'll stick to kicking Eggman's butt every month!" /////////// "Cloud, imagine a world where you could still be with Aerith. One that Jenova doesn't threaten, where you and Sephiroth can live as brothers!" "Thanks but no thanks. I got better things to do than sit by and let some asshole control the world!" ////////// "Zelda, surely you wish for a peaceful world, do you not? Why fight against your own heart's desire!?" "Through strife and hardship we find love that way. I couldn't live with myself if I allowed someone to take over the land after stopping Ganon in so many lives. You hold yourself to be an equal of my goddess and yet can't see how you're evil yourself!" ////////////// "Sora, do you not wish to be rid of Destiny so you can live with Riku and Kairi? No more Heartless or Nobodies, the Darkness wouldn't be hurting anyone anymore! The Light could be everlasting and expand beyond eternity!" "My heart had a moment of weakness in your illusion. And that illusion was worse than any Darkness I had ever faced. The chain of memories, the days we all faced together, through all the distance, even as we sleep, no amount of recoding can ever truly break those bonds. There may be a Dark Road ahead, but everything is Unchained until we achieve our own Union. I'm never letting that Light go out again!" ^That's all I got for now, but feel free to add more.

@@TheSpecialPsycho A little rough, but not bad. "Lucas! You've gone through so much pain at such a young age. The grief you bear is unimaginable. Please, let me grant your dearest wish, just this once!" "Mom and Claus would never be happy in a fake world. That's why I'll cherish the world they left for me!" "Ness! I know how much you grieve for your friend. I can change his fate! You don't have to carry that burden anymore!" "Porky made his choice. I'm not gonna let you make the same mistake he did!"

@@1Up2081 Thank you. I need to properly play those games all the way

@@TheSpecialPsycho Let's see if I can try Snake. "Snake, you were lied to your whole life and betrayed by a government who raised you to be a weapon and manipulated you to be a killer. This doesn't have to be this way anymore. Let me take away your grief where you can live a long normal life." "That's the job I have and a job I will carry out. I'm leaving here alive and I want to tell the story I experienced so others don't make the same mistakes I did."

“Sora, all you ever wanted was to explore the worlds but you had everything, including your life and heart, taken from you. Please allow me to give you what you’ve always wanted.” “I’ve had everything ever since I met my friends, I don’t need anymore help.”

How is it wrong?

I do admit his good intentions aren’t that fatal, especially how he lost his girlfriend and Shido stole his works. But rewriting everyone’s cognitions in a happy dream world? That’s a bit too far.

you'll be living a world of lies and false happiness.

@@pixelperson182 1) There will come a point where he will have to start controlling people beyond just granting desires. 2) Some request or dreams will conflcit with others because you can't make everyone happy. 3) A good dictator is still a dictator. He is a human that can make errors and turn power hungry.

@@hannarekhavi3478 but its not false happiness he even says you have free will in it so you can choose to do whatever you want. it also wont be lies if it becomes the truth because it will become the norm it isnt a bad ending at all. look at the side characters for example do you really think shiho will gain "strength" and "happiness" by being raped and overcoming it? no of course not that will loom over her for her entire life that wont make you strong, pain and suffering doesn't make someone strong at all. Marukis intentions at first are selfish because it was about pride, because he wanted to get back at his professor for shutting down his work but it became good because he only wants the best for people and granting wishes and changing reality to do so, marukis rebellion is greater than the phantom thieves or anyone else we have seen since his not rebelling against a society that ostracised him, but his rebelling against the natural order of the world to create a new one is that really that bad? i mean the phantom thieves have questionable actions aswell they do these change of hearts without the consent and force it upon the person drastically changing and destroying the persons mind they live with no desires to do anything and become apathetic as seen in the depths of mementos everyone in the palace is so distraut about their sins they can't even function and wallow in self pity is that really justice? who do you think suffers in marukis world no one besides him. he is a god who has to keep all of this in line if he sticks to his intentions is another thing but maruki is shown to be a determined individual and will take the mantle of god as seen in the "bad" ending where he shows up to the gang to take a picture for akechi. maruki is a good guy who has the best intentions for everyone, the phantom thieves are not good they only act on their selfless desire if they thought that pain and suffering can give "strength" then why did they change hearts in the first place because to them it would make you a stronger person they are total hypocrites as soon as someone does remotely similar to stealing hearts but on a grand scale level but actually not changing the persons personality in the process but the world they throw a hissy fit and say its wrong and that the "natural order" is better who the fuck cares about the natural order if we can change it for the better we should and we have. also akechi is a fucking murderer who wants to stop it because he doesn't want to be held down by anyone akechi is 10/10 in this game but his a fucking murderer and thats somehow better than a person who is going to put all the weight on his shoulders without any gratitude to make everyone but him happy and content with their lives.

"Dojima-san! For too long you have been burdened by the loss of your wife. Please, won't you think of Nanako's happiness?" "My wife is dead. Nanako's mother is dead. But even so, she lives on in both our hearts. He taught me that and we are still a family!"

yes

I think it wouldve been cool to ask joker for like the 12th time

Futaba-chan. You and I know what it's like to lose someone dear to us in front of our own eyes. With my help, you'll be able to see her again and you'd be a family again! I've moved on! I don't need my mom for a family. I have my dad and the one you're looking at!

Maruki: "Player's name", I ask of you, are you really okay with how your life in reality was? what if it repeats itself without a way out? Joker: >That's fine >So be it >on second though

@@clarinethro1695 Yeah, and she'd probably say something about not being deceived by a distorted reality again, like she said in her awakening. Because honestly, Futaba is the one who convinced me not to accept Maruki's reality.

He’s actually the real Akechi. Watch the true ending till the end and see someone with his exact outfit with only the face obscured. Doesn’t deserve to be called subtle: I actually think that was just Maruki trying to manipulate him into submission. Akechi was right when he said Maruki was just dangling his life over his head

@@bennettclark6974 Yeah. Akechi's no fool; he wouldn't return to a reality where he's dead. Instead, he'd rather take down Akechi cause if he doesn't he'll be stuck hanging out with the Phantom Thieves for the rest of his life.

@@bennettclark6974 The term is heavily implied but there's no denial of it either which I think is smart for a couple of reasons. It leaves it up to the viewers interpratation if it was really him, and should they decide to add him as dlc for Scramble it means they've got an easy out now storywise.

wtf? dude the game explicitly tells you this is the same person i cannot believe you dont know that unless you didnt play the game, i mean they literally just told you straight up. there is nothing cognitive about him.

@@C3l3bi1 Do me a favor and stop talking to me like I'm stupid. Yes I played the game, I've seen everything in full and it was extremely difficult beating this guy so get the hell off my case with that. There is NO dialogue or straight up confirmation that the person who passes by the window when Joker's on the train is Akechi, does it look an awful lot like him of course and that's my point. But it's impotant to note that as of right now the developers could still very well say that was'nt actually Akechi. I'd like that to not be the case and for him to offically still be alive. But you should be prepared to hear the other answer just incase.

You mean Kunino-Sagiri?

I started playing 4 Golden and now I get that reference 😭

U N N E R R I N G J U S T I C E

Maruki is like if you put Izanami and Namatame in a blender.

Is that a devil artemis reference?

Makoto pulls out chloroform

Makoto: "Dont resist, i'll show you why the nickname Queen, baby.. *Winks*"

I honestly relate to Makoto when it comes to living an unhappy/torn apart family by the actions of others

Meanwhile at the Niijima household, Sae flinched.

He would!

Drinking bleach with one hand, massive middle finger with the other

He really would!

Because that's literally what he would do

Now I can't get the image of Akechi chugging down bleach and flipping off Maruki out of my head

I know I am lates, but can you do one for SEES?

Well, Ill be cheering you on buddy.

Even if you fail, keep going. Improvising will be the key factor helping you. Good luck on your journey with that passion.

Yo that’s actually good if it were like this

Noice

Yukari: "I don't need your patronizing reality! I'll deal with my problems myself, thanks." Mitsuru: "I'm afraid you're mistaken. I can handle the consequences of my grandfather's actions, including my father's death." Ken: "What's the point if they're just copies made from my memories? I'd rather suffer than live a lie." Junpei: "Y'know, something tells me that Chidori would rather I move on. So, no thanks, asshole!" Akihiko: "Shinji wouldn't want me to imprison myself here just to see him again. I'll take my pain in stride!" Aigis: "Koro-chan has found a new family with us. He wholeheartedly rejects your offer." Fuuka: "I've found acceptance! I don't need to pretend about that!" Aigis: "My past does not define me. I have found purpose of my own, even through the pain of life!" Protagonist: -That's not for you to decide. -Not if they're just given to me. -That's pretty cheap, isn't it?

@@demi-femme4821 Nice! If I could I'd upvote this multiple times!

@Corbin Terry Hanamura-kun! I know how much Konishi-san's death hangs over you, and I can't imagine how much her family misses her, too! I promise you, with my power I can return her to you and her family, and neither of you will have to suffer anymore! Satonaka-san! Please, listen! I know you've felt like you were never good enough for anyone, but that simply isn't true, others just need only see it as well! I promise with my reality all your desires can finally come true! Amagi-san! It must be so painful to feel caged in this life others have decided for you! I promise you, you'll have every chance to escape and follow your own path in this new reality! Teddie-kun, you poor thing! I can't imagine how much it hurt to learn the truth, but you don't need to be ashamed of where you come from! With my power I can promise you a reality you can be a part of! Tatsumi-kun! I know how you feel deep down, but you don't need to fear your differences! Don't worry, if you just accept this reality, then all acceptance you've deserved can be yours! Kujikawa-san! It must hurt so much to see so many people not know the real you, but it doesn't have to be that way! Embrace this new reality, and I promise countless people can know and embrace you for who you are instead of the image they've only seen on the stage! Shirogane-san! It must be so difficult, to see all you strive for always seem to be out of reach for such senseless reasons! It doesn't have to be that way, though! I can give you a world where you won't need to earn the acknowledgement you deserve through force, and succeed in your family's name! Adachi-san! Life was never fair to you, was it? And I know how much you regret all that you've done, but now you can have a fresh start with the life you've always wanted! Why would you reject a second chance when it's right in front of you? Narukami-kun! Why should anyone be forced to accept a harsh and painful truth that can drag them into ruin and despair? I can make a new truth with this reality, one where everyone can be happy and no one will ever suffer again! What would it take to make you understand that?

​ @Shadejak VA Yosuke: That might be true. I loved her. But that's not what we want. You think we'll accept some LIE you've dreamed up for us? No way -- we didn't come all this way for THIS! Chie: It's true that I was jealous of the others, because of that... But I'm sorry Doctor, this isn't right! You can't FORCE happiness on people! It's only BECAUSE I faced the truth that I became as close as I am to my friends! You can't take that from us, and we won't LET you! Yukiko: I'll decide my future for myself! All my life, I felt trapped, but come what may, I won't trade the cage in my mind with a cage YOU built! Kanji: Like hell! If it's ONLY 'cause YOUR sorry ass forced it, I don't want their acceptance! If they can't accept me for me, to hell with them, I've got all I need, with Senpai and the others! Teddie: I know I'm a Shadow... but I'm still me, Teddie! I still have a place I belong! With Nana-chan, and Yosuke, and Sensei, and ALL the people of this world I've come to love! Rise: I am who I am -- Risette, Rise, no one can really know everything. I want to choose it for myself, who knows all of them. Naoto: Your intentions are noble doctor, but the fact remains: You're denying us the CHOICE of accepting the truth! A life spent where you warp everything so our success is a birthright -- it's hardly living at all! I'll never live a falsehood, ever again! (That or "This reality's a living contradiction. If it's perfect as you say, where do I, as a DETECTIVE, fit into a world without crime or mystery?", something to that effect, cause I could see this issue cropping up.) Adachi: Wannabe nice guys like you REALLY piss me off... You must REALLY want to play the hero, if you're resorting to THIS, even with aaall the power you've got. Inaba was ALREADY dull as hell -- you think I'd be happier when the whole WORLD'S become all sunshine and rainbows? Hell no DUMBASS, compared to this, even dealing with those dumb HICKS in the station is more worth my time! Yu: - This isn't the truth. - Life can't be lived this way. - Calm down. Anime!Yu: The reality we live in, what we yearn for -- it's not a choice for you to make!

*Shoots Maruki in the knee*

What the hell did you say about my hair?!

I am Marukinand von Aegir!

Now I'm suddenly imagining Ferdinand and Maruki being good friends. Dunno why, but I guess it has to do with the fact both characters were voiced by the same English VA.

Gustavo SmashBro00 You know, Hubert and Akechi share the same voice actor, which is funny, because let’s face it: if Hubert was in this situation, he would have said the same thing as Aketchi did LMAO (and let’s face it, probably the only FE3H character that would).

@@christopherwallace7903 That would be quite the situation if Hubert were to be in this kind of thing. XD

his ending makes you feel like the bad guy in the story

Yep, but that again, he brainwash his target which left them lifeless also, have to put him out of his misery

Riddle me this: “When is the villain...not the villain?”

@@paolocalapatia6401 when he is the victim

SinlessGalaxy 31 ...Exactly. Despite how wrong about what he’s doin...I just can’t hate him unlike the other Final Bosses of this game😞

In my point of view, he is a well-written character, whose idea of ​​desire thinks of making a sacrifice for the good of all, despite trapping everyone in an false idea of the perfect world I really like the dude just saying :)

@@vicsalvargas9565 Maruki's arc kind of serves as the basis of Scramble storyline, though the Jail Kings are kind of like the Palace Rulers. The only difference is that their actions was caused by trauma, in a sense due to bullying, being used/framed, abuse. This results them in reaching the breaking point and uses EMMA as the easy way out to take revenge on those whom wronged them. The EMMA app and Jail serves the same function as Maruki's Palace and Persona, except that this leads the victims to be brainwashed and blindly follow the Jail King. The Jail Kings actions is no different from escapism, in which the Phantom Thieves including their new comrades Sophia and Zenkichi (Wolf) learned the source of the distorted desires in the Lock Keeper area, similar to the memory tapes/recordings. The thieves "change of heart" on the Jail Kings is more on giving them a reality check, taking on a more gentler approach despite fighting their shadow selves

Like Morgana said at the end, there would definitely be some people who would. Benefit from Maruki's reality. However taking the freedom of choice from others isn't the right way to go.

Kind of the issue... Maruki's reality is an impossibility because humans are incapable of living the way he would imagine. It's effectively brain control. And it wouldn't work anyways. Yaldaboath's plan is ruin through regression. And Maruki's is ruin through stagnation. What is happiness is life has no pain or suffering. And there's a whole host of issues Maruki's reality would bring that's just way too long for a YT comment

@@Monty2289 the actual problem imo is that you can’t truly live life without any pain, let alone rejecting any human emotion.

@@Monty2289 There is no ruin in Maruku's world. He'd be able to cognitively rewrite reality. Stagnation wouldn't exist...he could just as easily let everyone be their preferred age, be healthy forever, let humanity advance and grow. People act like he HAS to control everything. If that were the case, you would have less choices in his reality's ending. You have choice. It's only limited when Sojiro asks if you can stay. People would be able to advance technology at a rate that we'd be spreading throughout space with Maruki's reality. There would he no more victims of rape, no more starving people, no more child trafficking. This is the reality you fight against. And it's sad.

@@slayer-22 couldn’t have said it better. I said yes to Maruki first before saying no just to get a different ending. I hate how it seems going against Maruki is a bad thing for a lot of it and for a lot of people just because of “freedom”. I’d sacrifice all of this “free will” to see all the innocent people in pain and suffering in this world to smile and live as they should. It’s so hypocritical that the phantom thieves try to save people who are suffering then just take it all away even though that was their original goal, Maruki just did it on a massive scale. Yeah there are some flaws but I’m sure if you talked to him about it he would change it. Ffs he even gave Akechi, a MASS MURDERER, a second chance at life. And people still hate him... it really is sad.

Yusuke still has his friends in the ideal reality Its just likely everyone isnt as connected on a personal level because the terrible events that happened to them do t exist in this reality Joker and the thieves helped yusuke through the Madarame stuff, when yusuke was at his lowest point. But now that stuff was erased

Original Gameteer that’s what I meant. Yuske lost that deep bond with the others that was born of his and their suffering.

Especially with how him being brought back was largely for Joker's benefit, not Akechi's. Akechi was satisfied with his fate, it finally gave his life a meaning and purpose that was HIS to choose for once, and Maruki forcing him into an artificial reality he didn't choose invalidates Akechi's own existence as little more than a tool for anyone's satisfaction but his own. Maruki desired to "help" Akechi, but was wholly incapable of understanding that some people don't necessarily want a simply happy life, they want a life that is their own. A path decided for you is hardly a path of any value to one who wishes to find one themself. In that moment, it really was just "high and mighty bullshit", because Maruki was actively refusing to recognize Akechi's own wishes as that directly interferes with Maruki's messiah complex. He'll "save" them all, whether they like it or not.

Maruki: *Exist* Investigation Team: Now that's an Izanagi-No-Okami level of threat !

Nihil Ego I thought it was Izanami? Izanagi is Yu’s persona.

@@BlindMelonLord Yes, that's the point. The original meme is "Now that's an Avenger level of threat ! ".

Without hardship we as people we cannot grow we deal with it to improve and without hardahip humanity will turn stagnant.

Yes. It's very sad. In his last video he said we're gonna kick its butt (the cancer) but sadly reality betrayed him.

@@elimDBZ Billy gave up everything! EVERYTHING!

Glad you like it :)

Faz That’s an understatement, my friend.

@@FazPersona It's cool to have these off on their own so no one as to go through the entire game just to hear the different dialogue for each of the charachters in this fight.

His costume gave me mad ZA WARUDO vibes.

The reveal was so fucking surprising because I was expecting some type of higher up figure mask, but I did NOT expect Za Warudo.

the fact they have their personas and were able to overcome him is proof that They didnt need saving on the 1st place, Maruki is the one who gave up in ZA WARUDO!!! And Akechi know his self righteous Bullshit is just like when he was pretending, Thats the reason Akechi is actually a hero Just this once But he has to be punish for what he did and His reward would be Death. But Akechi went Down Under his Own terms like the bastard he was killed by his puppet cognitive version.

When I fight Maruki, I feel the frustration that villains feel when heroes never lose hope and keep standing up.

they already saved each other

Didn't Yaldabaoth also think he was right?

Toony 123 yup

@@dudemcguy8949 well if you want to get technical, considering how he got his reality altering power. Then it was the Phantom Thieves.

Both Maruki and Cup do the same thing but with different intentions. While Yaldy wanted to imprison humans and force them to not think and let their life be ruled over by someone else(cup), Maruki wanted to help other reach happiness However, both restrict the act of free will. We already know about Yaldy but with Maruki, it's basically the same thing. By granting everyone's wishes, there's no wrong action, no mistake. Their life is forfeited to Maruki's hands and I love p5r

Toony 123 No I don't think so. If I'm remembering correctly it was confirmed somewhere that the fight with Yaldabaoth was actually brought upon by a wager between him and Philemon at the beginning of Persona 5's story to see whether or not mankind truly desired their will to live freely vs a longing to be dominated by an otherworldly force and lose power over their own lives. This was never touched upon in the actual game for whatever reason. But yeah, Yaldabaoth didn't actually believe the bs he was spewing. When he kept saying your journey to rehabilitation was a game, it was literally a game between two god like entities to see whether or not humans would take the easy way out and give in to his control, or overcome their hardships to achieve emancipation.

i can just imagine what would happen when Maruki’s world shuts down and everyone realized that it was all fake.

Given he effectively has taken Yaldabaoth's place and has dominion over reality itself, I think it's safe to say his subsequent immortality ensures that his illusion never "breaks".

This happy world... It reminds me of Yivo’s “paradise” in Futurama: The Beast with a Billion Backs. Even the tentacles gave me that feeling of disgust. I even pictured the idea of the cognitive beings going into full-on ecstasy mode as those tentacles burrow their way into their heads.

I think so far it only effect the place Persona 5 is in, like at best the parts of the world that Persona 5 showcase

I think it was mentioned that the “deadline” for this quarter is basically him going from controlling Persona 5’s setting to the rest of the world.

Because striker isn't a sequel of royal. You should wait for P5 Striker the Royal, soon to be announced in September, persona series 25th anniversary, lol

Actally Strikers makes it clear that Morgana does that purely out of reflex now and there's even times where he almost forgots to do it too. Because despite that still being a gag he rarely brings up wanting to be human anymore. Meaning the charachter development DID stick as I thought it would.

@@Suku1509 If thats on switch, I'M PICKING IT UP!!!

Minato: I don't care.

@@burpee5247 Make a better response than just that!! It’s way too bland

Mishima: I would like to, but no… I refuse your offer, all I wanted is to make Phantom Thieves and my website popular, not fame or money. Shiho: Not happening, even though last years was a rough time for me and having Takamaki-San being here to cheer me up from my rehab, I won’t run away from my pains I’ve suffered…

“Chihaha-san would it not be better if you didn’t have to predict people’s downfall and just show them happiness instead?” “Fate can already be overcome by trying. I give no sad predictions anymore”

"Shinya-kun, I could take all of that weight off of you and your mom. You wouldn't need to be strong for her!" "Bastard! I love my mom & she loves me! We're strong together & can make everything work without your help!" __ "Iwai-san, I can make it so you and Kaoru don't need to always look over your backs! You can live your lives in peace!" "Seriously? That's not the way of the Gecko. Kaoru's a good kid & I made my peace already. I'm keeping my shop up & I'm making sure to support him through it. No more secrets, I fight for his freedom AND MINE!" _ "Kawakami, your student will never have been lost. You could teach without ever letting a student down!" "That's not what he'd want, and that's sure as hell not what I'm going to want either. I'll be there when they need me, and right now they need me to fight you!" _ "Yoshida-san, I can help you rectify your mistakes!" "I don't wanna hear it, Maruki. I was No-Good Tora & I made sure to learn better from that. Nothing you say will convince me to take your deal."

​@@TheSpecialPsychou forgot tae

​@@bobflame5679 "Takemi-san, you have worked hard to save lives only for those who seek to profit weigh you down. Join me and you can be recognized not as The Plague but as a healer." "Thanks, but no thanks. My time in the Clinic and the smile of a little girl is far more precious than any accolade."

Maruki declaring his very obvious messiah/savior complex loud and unabashedly proud

I think that is fine. I dong think that what Maruki is doing is evil but the way he is doing is self centered. He doesnt seem to consider that there may be better ways of achieving a happier world. His is the quickest and easiest but Im not sure it is the best. It sacrifices a lot of things that I think are important. I think that a better use of his powers would be to remove the meaningless pain in the world like the slavery, rape ans natural disasters but I dont think he should remove the hability for people to disagree and challenge each other.

I woukd also advice you to learn about ways in which you can be manipulated so that you are able to protect yourself.

Joker: I told you before that I won’t accept this reality. I came to save you from your delusion not succumb to it.

*IS THIS SOME SORT OF ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE?!* *MARUKI IS SAE'S BROTHER, HAS HER ROLE AND MAKOTO IS THE VILLIAN?!*