6:30 sound like porn

To be fair, he is an ex-hitman. Of course he's going to go into "killing mode" whenever he fights Shadows. That was his way of showing mercy.

Basically if Hubert wanted to help me in the Crimson Flower route, but is reminded to go for non lethal actions.

@@ejelecflametails6657 yup and hurbet goes to kill mode when you don't choose to join eldargrad to fight the church

@@ejelecflametails6657 Yes!!

And then after joker wins for the first part he poses with a fighting stance while saying "looks like you lost" I'm like akechi bruh you didn't do shit! You're cool but this ain't your time to look cool!

13:41

Maruki: ngh

Honestly it’s funny how futaba repeats anything akechi said before the quote plays out

This is another version of persona 4 golden was but with the p5 setup.

I get what you are saying but I don't totally agree. I think there is nothing in P4G that is as compelling as the third semester in P5R, the conflict it's not just to live in blissful ignorance or seek and accept the truth, but it's actually more of a continuation of "Chaos vs Lawful" themes of the vanilla game. If Joker accepts Maruki's deal, then he is just given up control of everything, even his reality, to someone else (Just like the masses where given up their will to the Holy-Grail in vanilla), if he rejects Marukis deal, then he has to decide for himself what reality is, what is right and wrong (essentially, justice). That's what I think is different from P4G, Joker's rejection of Maruki's reality doesn't imply that he will obtain some sort of truth, but just a chance to maybe insert his will into the world the way he sees fit, it's also why I think its better than P4G, because there is a lot of moral ambiguity in the decision itself, and I could see people siding with either side of the argument. P.S: Don't wanna come across as if I don't like P4G, it has other strengths over P5R, I just think P5R is such a step up storywise...

Daniel Levy Moreno This. While I did enjoy the Marie Dungeon, it definitely isn’t as complex and expansive as Maruki’s Palace

@@daniellevymoreno1141 i wonder what p6 will be im thinking of peace or violence

@@daniellevymoreno1141 Well half of what you said i agree except the part of insert his will into the world the way he sees fit....if he's accept offer mean that new reality will be what he's see fit as well since he accept that reallity as what he want it to be not as Akechi prefer to finish it all. What true ending mean that everyone control there own faith(some people could say we got freedom) without facade reality so it's mean Joker and everyone will be free from any wish(mean Joker don't have anything control in reality) and just accept the world as it is and not live as what anyone wish is.....cause peoples have tendency to manipulate other. as you can see our world have fake new. the rich in control the power. peoples can't speak the truth anymore and everyone selfish in there desire. even Covid i'm not even sure is someone manipulate or incontrol lol people will wish for this for that. this game just call for us to be more consider what you are wishing for and that it and live on. it's similar between seeking the truth and accept reality .. but P4 concept is just seeking the truth and free the world. P5 will be kind of free the world to accept reality. i think that how it is may be i'm wrong but that how i see it.

Y U P

ALL WILL BE REVEALED

​@@DonVito703that's actually a really interesting line given the situation. Joker is literally dragging sumire out of the lie she begged for and showing her that yes she can face it, and to simply bury it is to bury just how much her sister loved and admired her. And that while it's painful, kasumi made her decision willingly without any hesitation at all.

@@DonVito703 BY THE MYRIAD TRUTHS

Doom Slayer as soon as doom gate started playing, shit got real

I hate it how overused it is in p5r. It was bad enough in p5

@@yamimayonnaise5378 it plays in like 3-4 battles what are you talking about

@Flash Cannon and the Grail fight

@@ayyxd34 6 times actually

Same I need them too

Me too

Here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrhnbLlqqanPhp8.html

Omfg lol

Hey great value version of me

If you think thats bad, try Naofumi with the Rage Shield

“Nice guys OR Ferdinand von Aegir” Nice

Edward Ramos watch the demon slayer dub he voices the character rui, who’s a villain and he did a really good job portraying his creepiness

Josuke too

It’s funny that Hubert is our ally too

He's really scary though, but I like it a lot

made Black suit Akechi more approachable

i hated him in vanilla, but he’s one of the best written characters in royal

@@I_Eated_The_Soap he was so underdeveloped in vanilla, he seemed bad because he was evil and bad and evil and edgy and bad but here he actually has motivation

chromso that and he’s just behaving like himself without any of the pretense.

That felt no different than in P4 where Shadow selves were denied by their originals and they became themselves and not part of them. Those “you’re not me” moments.

Honestly, how hard it was to use Azathoth to separate Cendrillon from Sumire and turn into a Medea scenario is hard to tell.

@@demi-femme4821 Plus in the Persona 3 movies, there were moments where if a Persona-user had tinges of self-doubt, their own Persona either goes wild, or tries to kill them. It happened to Shinjiro, Chidori, and even Yukari.

Well Personas in this game are merely a reflection of themselves. Cendrillion IS Sumi (Kasumi most likely, as I feel her rank 10 awakening is Summer's true persona).

Plus, before the battle begins, she says "I don’t want to go back to my life in cinders", referencing the fact that she was essentially used as a slave by her mother and step-sisters in her house and was called "Cinderella" because of how often she'd be covered in cinders after cleaning the fireplace.

Cendrillon is the name of Cinderella in French. So yeah...

AlexTheRed1985 Oh, that’s why she's called that. I thought it was just some strange thing with copyright that meant they couldn’t use "Cinderella". I suppose it does make more sense to use her original name.

Pokéfan 744 I like small details like this. This game is such a masterpiece

Does that make Joker her Prince Charming?

Wow that's a whole different meaning of denying the reality she did all this time

I kept tanking them and charging sword dances of my own like well okay you asked for it

SAME she literally killed herself in her own desperation that was so tragic to see

Ryuji is my fuckin BOY.

This is why Ryuji/Skull is my go-to phantom theif. Mona is jealous, that's why he said that soon after.

Yes! I'm glad that you pointed this out, because a lot of people think Akechi here is fake, when he's actually real.

@@Moda-pf8wt except he disappears when the palace gets shut down, along with all the other fakes

@@dredgenmoist1464 He should have disappeared once Joker refused to accept it, but he didn't. Also, the true ending hints at his survival.

Moda1106 well actually In the true ending he’s alive

@@dredgenmoist1464 they're not fakes. Dr. Maruki literally rewrote the events so that all those that have died would still be alive. So in a sense, Dr. Maruki revived them. Except for Akechi who didn't evenly disappear when Joker refused Dr. Maruki's reality. So Akechi is really alive and not dead.

What I find most scary about him is the fact he can make a persona go from the looks of it completely berserk, and apparently make them stay alive for a darn long amount of time if they eat other Shadows. What would happen if he somehow did that to Akechi or Joker? No good, that I'm sure.

King Crazy not to be rude but adatchi or however you spell it from persona 4 seems a lot more scary to me since he kills because he feels like he is too good for his position and pushing people into the tv and watching people suffer and he also represents what the protagonist would be like without friends since which is proven by his persona or shadow being your persona but the color scheme being inverted

@@Grima-su6os well considering Akechi can himself and others go berserk. Probably the same thing with his victims now I'm wondering if Azathoth knocked Sumire out so she wouldn't start lashing out like Akechi does for his showtime?

Adachi wasn't as powerful as Maruki though. Maruki can literally warp the real world from head to toes.

@@stingerredshock3418 to be fair though Maruki isn't really supposed to be scary, just an opponent that is hard to deal with.

Pretty much

*peesona

Ya i was thinking the same thing i was like these people had the guts to come help 2 wild cards for that leave up

They did that with akechi in his rank 8 too.

Well yeah, Ryuji even said after Akechi's defeat "Dude, you're more than special"

@@fierytigergaming8112 Ryuji is one of the only PTs who actually made an effort to understand Goro and tries to include him in the group. I like Ryuji way more now because of that: He really tries his best to understand others.

@@Moda-pf8wt yes but no when they first met Ryuji absolutely hated him just because he took a stance against the phantom thieves which kinda pissed me off honestly.

@@pforgottonsoul I was angry about that as well! Although, P5R made me like him instead of me staying neutral about him. He became better over the time and that's what counts for me!

Then there should’ve been a showtime with them

Alm Vs Celica in a nutshell

Meanwhile I’m over here Debilitating her with Michael Charged and Powered up ready to Sword Dance

Uh, but A-1 Pictures should not do it. Because P5A sucked because of that.

Wow you made feel bad, i just destroyed her with my Alice

Hopefully, if they make a Persona 5: The Royal Animation, they won't screw it up as they did with P5 The Animation.

Yeah i get what you mean

Dude people get turned on by that?

@@felixma9192 Yes, but it's contextually bad in this case. The only good thing is that it seems like Maruki is just trying to say "Snap her out if you can because you did it to the other 7 guys" instead of actually trying to kill you. BTW if that were a real persona (It isn't) she might die because if it was he's killing her Shadow, pretty sure he knows that ripping that off lets you snap her out instead because he just killed the overlay.

i dont think it turns anyone on i think people are just memeing it because of tentacle hentai

@@toddhoward841 That's not even what I think, I think of it as just disturbingly weird in a different way. (It's the same feeling from Persona Q2's Yosukesaurus fight)

Yeah but after this it goes back to normal, kinda like how Kamoshida's palace has you constantly going in and out during the first few times

Thank you Haru Fricker350

That’s just the game.

And I love it

Yea but is that so bad?

Actually I think Morgana made a part too, because when the protag thinks about those scenes, the one with Morgana is the only one where he's reconsidering, the rest just show how happy they are, and then after this the game gives you the option to choose.

@@crossbuster4192 that's effin right

vorporal blade Severe physical damage to ALL FOES

she legit thinks she can even scratch joker lol

“Hee-Ho! Mother fu-“

The cries of hee-hoo

Ok, kudos to you for managing maxing out level 12 persona.

So are we forgetting that ship palace

"Our Leader been through shit cause of you- ITS ON!" -Ryuji to Shido

@@djcooper1061 a real g!! i love ryuji sm

Ryugi

What a badass. Best bro.

Yes and at the same time took no damage too

Apparently his PQ2-exclusive skill Line Guard carried over to P5R in-universe, because that's basically what he did.

@@kamataro1482 So Q2 is canon then, lol

@@matiasaguayo3175 P5R is non cannon .-.

Ryuji: we gotta save her, right joker? Me: *you’re goddamn right.*

Skull in P5R is amazing.

@@Moda-pf8wt Skull is amazing in general

I'm glad i'm not alone.

Oh god don’t tell me this was part of Aizen’s plan too?

Oh god no!

@@ignatiusloyolamulti1186 same

Oh great first we have a light yagami imposter and now aizen is being referenced in maruki? I'm convinced that atlus has a boner for shonen jump.

You never played smt? They are actual demons made from people.

sarthak arora oh!

@@sarthakarora3212 No. SMT Demons and Personas (except the "generic" personas you fuse/recruit) are very much not the same thing at all.

@@lexicus1275 Persona has its own set of 'Demons' which is where Personas take their image and powers from (this is a really obscure fact nobody seems to remember), but even Persona's Demons aren't the same as SMT's Demons.

Metis said the The Answer that shadows and personas are basically the same thing. Shadows are the darkest reflections of the human heart and the side no one wants to see while the persona is facing your inner shadow and taming it. This is obv more present in P4 bc that was the whole awakening premise

hugs, headpats, encouragement

Your Everyday Protagonist #HugSumire

I feel bad for her past but she really needed to embrace who she is rather than live in a lie.

Master Chief Petty Officer Spartan John-117 Is it worse, in terms of how it affects Sumi personally, than with Marie in Persona 4 Golden, or Labrys from Persona 4 Arena?

@@mystery8820 I'd say Sumire because at least the other two didn't indirectly cause someone else's death.

Thank you :)

She has Bless attacks too, but like quarter HP Shido she doesn't have a backdoor against anything.

@@mrex666productions7 I see. I do wonder, when fighting solo against her as Joker, would Curse attacks work against her in terms of weakness? I remember Cendrillon is weak against Curse.

@@cyberqueen7784 None of the targets bar the Biyarky have weaknesses. Also you can down Cendrillon with physical but you can't AOA because something else is in your way. (I think Maruki because he does attack)

@@mrex666productions7 Makes sense because there was no Hold Up after Cendrillon was down. From the other videos so far, the Biyarky are immune to wind and fire, but are weak against ice, correct?

Yeah is not like someone made that already in the past. . .*Coff* Nanjo *Coff*

that's the point, it's this supposed Heavenly paradise, heck his treasure is in the Garden of Adam and Eve

Why is it in a stadium though? Isn't a palace suppose to be in a place a person thinks about frequently?

@@destroyerblackdragon The stadium is being torn down into a Cognitive Research Centre (The Cognitive Laboratory) by Maruki, but construction of it was stopped due to the fundraising being halted.

Especially the Rainbow garden maze.

@@vedji1857 Actually, I think it’s the other way around. The construction site was originally supposed to be a lab, but due to the influence of a certain individual, that plan was halted and a stadium was to be constructed instead.

This is giving me some episode prompto energy for some reason

Facts. He literally retraumatized in her in the worse way possible by showing her that video, and asks her to choose his reality while she's still recoiling from her broken mental state. He knew *full well* she'd never be able to give a rational answer in that state of mind, but still pressed her about it in order to convince the others to submit to him. It's absolutely self-serving, whether he intends it to be or not. And even after seeing how detrimental putting her into this position was, he still proceeded to drive both Sumire AND her persona (the only part of her that was somewhat able to realize the truth early on) mad enough to try and kill her only friends. Just look at her in this scene. She's completely unhinged and clearly just needs time to cope with her feelings, yet when Joker finally gets her to calm down a bit, Maruki steps in and proceeds to give her more of his twisted "help" when she even ask for it. Essentially encouraging to continue going forth and trying and kill her friends..

@@DLxxx As much as it gave Sumi time, that actualization had a very dangerous side effect: If that person needs to grieve, they can’t grieve because they literally can’t remember. Thoughtbubble’s video on the “counseling” session with Sumire and Maruki kinda puts my words in a well-placed manner. Try to see it if you get the chance. Here is the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g56qatuo0auqd30.html Also, if Doc were a good counselor, he’d give Sumi the chance to answer one month after the truth was revealed. But Doc’s inability to deal with sorrow was getting in the way of that and sees running away from pain as THE end all be all solution to EVERYTHING. It sounds nice at first glance, but our senses would dull and when crap REALLY does hit the fan, our wills would be non-existent, we’d be so dependent on those happy “realities” that we are unable to adapt for anything at all.

@@DLxxx Also, if this scene was inproved in anime form (if done right), Joker, in a unusual fit of rage, would try to rush at Maruki. And Akechi, despite being a beast who unleashes his fury, is the one to calm Joker down. Joker would also cut apart the tentacles in order to separate Sumire from them and stop Cendrillon’s rampage (Maruki can’t control other Persona’s if he doesn’t have a Persona-user in his grasp). Just like when Narukami rushed at Kuni-no-Sagiri in Persona 4: The Animation when Nanako was kidnapped.

Yeah he pretty much says as much. The Doc's apparently the best way he can save his patience is by having them escape their problems rather than strive to overcome them. He sees pain he removes it, luckily he has his reasons which make for an interesting story.

@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective All of that… because of terrible circumstances beyond his control. Not to mention his research being unaccepted by academia out of nowhere, just when he was making progress (that moment was within someone else’s control, a certain bald man). And now, he genuinely wants to live a life where bad things never happen, and his inability to grieve is bleeding out in his sessions.

Especially since he revived both Wakaba, and Haru's father

That's the idea. He prioritizes removing pain above all else. He realized if he brought Kasumi back to life, Sumire would once again constantly feel inferior, which would cause her a great deal of pain. Remember that his desires have become distorted, which led him to his destructive idea of salvation.

I reject your reality and substitute my own

NO U

Whoever was in your party last get's dropped for Akechi, fine by me since I wanted Joker, Morgana, Akechi, and Makoto anyways before Kasumi joined.

RedfurredPikachu Are you sure? Ryuji and Morgana got dropped into my party despite the fact I haven't used Morgana since Kaneshiro and Ryuji since Kamoshida fhfjdhdhs

@@IDontReallyWantAKZfaqHandle Of course I am, Morgana's a healer and he's a sword guy. Also despite what people are saying I've seen him take some pretty hard hits and still not die. Also I'm fond of cute litte guys like him, I'll have my badass warriors but it's so fun to see a charachter like Morgana be able to equally keep up with those warriors. Makoto's great as both a backup healer and she can raise defense which is super helpful. No matter what those two never left my party except when they were forced too. I swapped out Makoto for Kasumi for this last palace only because I like to try out the new members of the party and because she does'nt get to join for the main story means this is the only chance I'll get to use her same goes for Akechi. To be honest I'm still a little worried this will bite me in the ass not having Makoto there for the bosses but Akechi can lower an enemies attack and defense.

dk mow same I guess it’s just because he’s always in mine

RedfurredPikachu I don’t think so, I had Morgana and Yusuke put into my party but I never use Morgana, since I get rid of him as soon as I get Makoto and hadn’t used him since Madarame, and I hadn’t used Yusuke since Nijima’s palace, so it probably is random.

I see why she's upset but life doesn't always go as planned. That's why there's both good and evil. To prepare you for both. Getting rid of one leads to stagnation.

One of the reasons why I can’t accept Maruki’s reality is because you’re going to “kill” Sumire. I didn’t really want to fight her so I just used Tetrakarn.

Especially the fact that you can see from her face that she was emotionally and mentally broken

Ill apologize for the long comment but....to confirman this was one of the heartbreaking fights than there was Ren was jsut fresh from the last encounters way back since the palace of Shido and the aftermaths. Between reclaiming control, the betrayals and manipulations things could had taken a toll only for another painful truth to be revealed. But unlike the previous encounters...he was virtually alone. All his friends are happily living in an utopia....yet he knew than it was not the best way and onyl ally at the moment, was the harsh detective who while having complicated deals, it was his harsh but needed way that was necessary to figure out the enigma. I feel taht deep down, Ren wasnt taking lpeasure in having to give those reminders and would had expected a fight with anyone on his ursue those truths....it didnt mean he was wanting that. And while not knowing full details on SUmire...he still did not want to hurt someone who he felt was very caring and concerned off his behalf..tereating him with respect and being so friendly...it was one of those fights he would not show his usual confidence, charm or even wrath but...a plea. NOt that Sumire has it easy. For what coul be like nearly a year she was acting like someone else..out of her own fear and sadness taht her own self is so meaningless that no one would had noticed or cared if she was gone and the guilt and sorrow over having costed the life off someone she cared. So big is her sorrow that she thinks the senpai she cares so much, is determined to bring her back to the normal deal because he wants to do what is right..yet a mix of guilt, self anger and a desperate heartache made her loose control...and if it wasnt for the timely intevention from Ryuji or tackup....she nearly commited a mistake that would had been just as big as her tragedy.... While major damages were avoided...it is very clear neither wanted to fight the other.....but Ren needed to do what had to be done if he wanted to save someone..even if he would had been forced to hold back or take the toughest decitions.

I want HAVE bestfriend like Ryuji Sakamoto... He will come no matter what when his buddy having trouble... Even he secrifice himself... Wow... Salute...

Futaba's Awakening: am I a joke to you?

Futaba awakening didn’t have jesus

About time someone mentioned Persona 1.

Lmao, thanks

That's why he opted out of the fight. He knew that Joker doesn't want her dead, so he left it up to Joker.

Keep in mind: She doesn't even have that much health compared to most short boss fights. My theory is that Joker is holding back his strength and is only focusing on snapping her out.

@@Mikura39 That and perhaps she's not quite as strong as she could be because she's still pretending to be 'Kasumi' rather than embrace who she really is.

is he really a villain though?

Sae was also a sympathetic palace ruler.

The stuff Maruki did to Sumire and the things she went through because of his “help” will cement him in my mind as a villain. You don’t just do that to people, let alone a suicidally depressed teenager.

They why for the mementos request, the group theorized that he couldn’t change everyone’s lives right away and needed time to take full control on the deadline

@@jj_grabes he was taking over her persona and was clearly hurting her if she said maruki please help before he did it it would work better

@@jj_grabes He probably thought Sumire really wanted to beat Joker and the gang and gave her a power boost

This and his dismissal of Akechi's feelings regarding his own death really cemented Maruki as a villain to me.

Are you referring specifically to Maruki's palace or the 3rd semester as a whole? I don't really think that moral grey instantly makes something better so I'd like to hear your thoughts.

@@forgetfulcloud1914 Well specifically Maruki's palace. I'm speaking it in terms of story arc. Anyway, my thoughts are this one in particular makes you really think about our lives and relate in a psychological form that's not bound by circumstance so it's good.

@@forgetfulcloud1914 I really like it, it makes him a different villain from the others. He geuniunely believes he's helping people and does'nt understand why doing things like he does would be wrong. He's essentially forcing people to live a lie, the truth hurts but you need to face it or you'll never truly move on.

Weeb

If it did, it would be the story of the Leader, the Traitor, and the Rejector.

They will. It’s bound to happen at some point. I doubt it’ll be great though

Alibaba I know. A-1 is definitely known for going less than required quotas in adaptations. Especially game adaptations.

Alibaba There is something I’d like to add in the adaptation. Foreshadowing events that say that Sumi is not who she claims to be, that the people around find her deluded. We (the audience) see the effects of Maruki’s power overriding Sumi’s cognition just to ensure she doesn’t enter a depressive fit of rage. Why not have Maruki intervene and give a slight overdose of his power to Sumi as an act of impulse. Plus a flashback/album of the Yoshizawa siblings when they were still practicing or when they were kids.

lets just hope its better than the base anime

Maruki did overwrite joker's cognition. Remember when Joker dreamt of the school and he had his prisoner clothing on again? He was imprisoned but his will to "go home" managed to let him break free. And I think that Maruki actually wanted to help Joker as thanks for Joker's accidental help in mentioning Mementos which made Maruki's work possible in the first place. Not to mention what Joker went through to get to this point. Tbh I thought that Kasumi would be the one to break Joker out the matrix but Joker managed again on his own. that's the wild card of rebellion for you

the way she said doctor was weird

who?

@@dniwetamp In Kingdom Hearts 3...

@@enricofamoso3116 don't remember any xion

Watch it, then. Avenge your..... your bed.

xion? who? i don't remember her from kh, only roxas and axel.

The difference is Sumire’s actually a likable character

Except everyone likes violet.

I would say more like "Kunino Sagiri", but Maruki filled that spot - being deluded into believing that granting the wishes of people will make them happy. Just like how Namatame thought he was saving people by throwing them into TVs

This feels more than a regular shadow fight, Marie changes her opinion way fucking fast.

No need for me. I already finished JP version