But it’s super cute tho, you have to admit

@AlaskaTheIceWing2 It is cute like you said. If only we could know if Tamarin likes them back. Either the ship is cannon,or just a cannon crush Annenome has.

@@RivuletClone yeah

Yes ik!

Fr

True 0.0

What Page and book?

@@hiatussss Darkness of Dragons, unsure of the page but it’s when Qibli goes to meet his grandfather

@@ri757 Kk Ill search there

@@hiatussss Pretty sure page 100 or around 100

agreed!!!

Yes,

Woah all the liberal fans are still not satisfied with all the LGBTQ characters, I guess all the characters gotta be LGBTQ so yall are satisfied.😤

@@Anonymous-ro5eb chill tf out my guy

@@danryan215 🤨

This was done before FoH.

Uh huh sure it was it was already hinted Jambu was gay before that

And orchid and mangrove I didn't even find out about them until recently

Because she can change color and her rehular color palette kinda looks pansexual

Yeah

How?

@@Axolotl_Animations well the way they act and their general dialog tells me alot so I personally believe that they are pan

OMG, so I'm not the only one who thinks this?

Agreed, I hate the quinter ships though, qibli is canonically taken and people shipping them is extremely disrespectful because these are tui’s OCs, not for people to randomly ship as they please unless they don’t canonically have a partner

@@wrendrawsstuff6403 She also stated as they could have gone any way including Quinter meaning there some ground it stands on. Ships don't have to be canon. Canon can be weird sometimes.

@@enderwalkgang fair, but I still personally would not ship someone’s OC with another of their OCs when they’re clearly not intended to be together (after Qibli chose moon ofc) but if people were to ship them not knowing moon and qibli were together I suppose that would definitely be a lot more normal/tolerable than if they did know and just wanted to ship it for the reason of being gay and stuff (I’m lgbt, I’m not making fun of it before anyone tries to call me homophobic or some crap) 😂

@@wrendrawsstuff6403 You know what I wish people had more of that mindset in fandoms. Like Tui implies before Moon and Quibli got together that anyone of up could get together, and and now people are like yeah their young they may not stay together. But MOST of the shipping came from before Moon and Quibli became well official. But no like seriously people could honest stand to have more respect for people's OCs sometimes. I get it, headcanons are a theory sort of thing, and shipping- before a ship gets set in stone, can also be in that territory. But at the same time, they are a select few people who will take and treat their head canons like...actual canon even if the author has said no to it. (Eddsworld shipping, MHA) and even some trans headcanons, like ReZero, Ferris/Felix was confirmed to be cis, despite his crossing dressing nature- yet some 'fans' have gone as far as to attempt to hack the wiki to 'fix' this, because people can accidently wrote trans characters without realizing it, and it's the fans job to overstep boundaries and force a canon change.

@@enderwalkgang ahh yes I do agree from what I understand!! I’m glad to have met someone intelligible to speak to this about since it’s a bit of a controversial topic haha

omg yes i second this

Sorry, I only speak non big word, so y’all gonna have to fill me in (actually I’m better off not knowing)

@@kinggiggles8716 asexual aromantic can be shortened to the term, aro/ace! it refers to the people who have little to none romantic and sexual attraction all together.

@@veesxll so doesn’t that mean everyone is “aro/ace” until they get a wife/husband?

@@kinggiggles8716 it refers to identifying as someone with no sexual and romantic attraction, so it’s unlikely for them to have a partner :]

I totally agree with Qibli as pan, I always thought he was and I was rlly surprised when this video said he was bi :)

Trans icon 🥰

Actually, although I do believe Sky could be trans, twins can be born a different gender from each other so it's still possible he's a male

@@ashesfalling3017 I did not know that :0 But that would explain a lot, ty!

It could be either way cause when Wren found Sky she could have just assumed he was born male, when actually, he was born female. Or he is just a dud from the start…

@@ashesfalling3017 I think in reptiles, twins born for the same egg are always the same gender! So, either : a) Sky is FTM b) Wren assumed he was born male (which good for him)

This came out before book 15

I... cannot... compute... so many... big words

the only one i dont get is ftm turtle. lorewise, he was born while the orca statue still remained. that begs the question, does the statue know what people are on the inside? could the statue have a redemption arc by helping people who arent sure about the gender by finding out (ill be it in a grim way)? or is it based on biological sex???? IS THE STATUE TRANSPHOBIC?????? new plan: lets cancel the orca statue 🥱💅

@@parmesandrawz I love this comment💀💀 new wof debate. Is the orca statue transphobic or supportive

@@kittymittenzfrom debates over shipping, to debates over character morality and animus usage, don't hold a candle to this new debate 💅💅💅 i can't wait til someone draws the statue with a trans flag, or alternatively draws it as a transphobic karen

qinter is a great ship

yesss agreed =)

I also ship them way more than Winterwatcher or Moonbli, you are not alone

i agree, they have good chemistry and i thoguht they would end up together

qinter is the best ship in my opinion

GOOD 😼

Wheres the t

T as it SHIT I FORGOT IT!!

@@rutiacotheyuty3045 why do people say lgbtq+ instead of lgbtqiapg?

@@Wolfcrafter-jw2wd LG+ oh wait

Idk about that. I have friends that are twins, but not the same gender. I think the same could happen for dragons. Pretty weird that the fandom doesn’t talk about that…

@@christianquirion526 I know, but were they born at the exact same time as of similar to Sky and Peril? If they were born from the same cell, or egg, they'd be the same gender.

Oops, spelling , im kn mobile so that is why i spelt some things wrong.

Oops, spelling , im kn mobile so that is why i spelt some things wrong.

@@axelle9646 they were only second apart. If I’m mistaken, I’m no scientist on this matter so I might make a mistake or something.

qibli literally talks about marrying winter

@@sawyerdeegan1188 as a joke

didnt tui say that it couldve gone either way? also, she confirmed qibli is indeed bi.

@@umbrellaisaac Tui also considered killing off Peril at the end of Arc 1. Does that mean Peril is dead?

@@TrickyTalon23 what kind of logic is that? tui literally confirmed that qibli is bi.

Bruh, I get your passionate about this, but you’ve put the same comment like seven times. (Btw, I don’t actually care what you say, but I just am pointing it out)

Yeah I agree, I mean I don’t mind her being lesbian I just feel like it would work bette rid she was bi or pan :)

if im remembering correctly, the books stated that they only had eggs with admiral because they had to have dragonets. the two didn't actually love him at all, they just had kids with him and were separated

@@shrimpsbug I believe it was stated somewhere else they were bi, not just because of Admiral. Ill try to find it.

Nah bruh wat do ya mean? It’s Quibli right? Jk

tui confirmed he was in a q&a, she said the love triangle could've gone any of the ways

I agree. But I don't like the idea of a ship between winter and qibli because nasty artists take the gay stuff too far and qibli is a big jokester and always makes winter mad.

But Tui showed in both Qibli’s and Winter’s pov that they both love Moon and don’t really have feelings towards each other

@@ravewingz it COULD have, but it didn’t

“Cliff I think is confirmed gay” Excuse me *W H A T*

He’s like a toddler

HOW THE - how is a TODDLER GAY?!

Lynx and snowfall is fine i guess, but the others..? Most of them already have other pairs

Blister is seen to rlly hate the seawings so Coral X Blister would probably be a bad ship and Moon has qibli

@@lacytheespeon517 🤨

They also joke about being husbands in darkness of dragons? Plus let’s face it, they have known each other longer than moon they bi as hell

@@thenyan3095 ikr.

It's called being bisexual sweetie, Get over yourself. It was confirmed they could have dating any one of eachother, including Quibli dating Winter no Moon involved whatsoever.

@@enderwalkgang Dude, people can be bi and not be attracted to everyone. Qibli & Winter dont have that close of a relationship imo, to me they just seem like really close friends by the end of the second arc. And "Get over yourself"? Really dude?

I hadn't read "The Dangerous Gift" yet

@@Darkseabreather Oh my bad lol

No, Qibli and Winter were both stated to be at least Bisexual by Tui herself in either a Q&A or an Interview. I can't recall which it was though. So therefore they are canonically at least bisexual, maybe pansexual (Which essentially means, gender is not a thing that you even think about when looking for a partner).

Imagine disagreeing with the author herself 😂😂

Actually qilbli doesn’t like winter

@@domi-no1826 Actually this is disproven multiple times and Tui side it could go anyway meaning Quinter is a legitimately possiblity

@@enderwalkgang ah I just remember seeing in a theory that qibli donlik him

woohoo!!!!!

Let’s start riot, I’m all in

theres no way youre over the age of 10. youll live if a fictional dragon is gay

Yes!!! I don’t think that book was out at the time on the video

It’s been unofficial for a while but now you are my official favorite person in this comment section.

Its actually called qinter lol, and i agree but this video was before the flames of hope

Since when?

@@kinggiggles8716 Tui tweeted it somewhere but i can't find it

@@buckyandthebois8320 well thx for trying :)

So you like someone cuz they’re gay? Btw no, it would be toxic as fuck. Have you seen the way anenome treats people?

That book wasn't out yet, I didn't know

@@Darkseabreather bruh ya really getting shut down over pineabu, makes me feel kinda bad for ya

You’ve got a friend in me

Yeh it does I’m re-reading book 11 and it does

They're literally Blue and Luna's moms

From memory “Silverspot and burnet love each other more then they could love blue and lunas father”

Bruh. It was literally written in the books that they both loved each other more, than they "loved" Admiral.

How

@@Ceranyx agreed, how?

Ummm, where did you get that from? Been looking into WoF headcanons too much?

@@nara_drawz9895 it's confirmed by Tui.

@@chestnutstudios9690 where ? Could you link me the video/post/interview where she said it? Cuz as far as I'm aware, she said she won't write Trans characters until she finds someone to consult with (like she did while writing about Sundew and Willow)out of fear of doing something wrong.

I'm pretty sure that's just a common headcanon

@@chestnutstudios9690 No it's not. It's a possible headcanon based on a myth that twins from the same egg will always been the same sex at birth. Tui said she'd consider it in the future but also admits to not wanting to right a trans dragon out gear of doing it wrong. She does believe trans dragons are a thing in her universe however.

Being friends doesn't have to do with their orientation. Imagine disagreeing with the literal person who wrote the books

@@lacytheespeon517 oh my gosh stop being such a freaking Karen. The og commenter literally said nothing about their orientation, they simply stated that qibli and winter are just friends (which I agree with) and if tui wanted them to be together, she would’ve put them together. Now go back to reading weird fanfics if you’re so insistent.

Looking closely qibli isn’t really that great of a fren

@@domi-no1826 how?

It would be a terrible toxic relationship and NSFW artists would flood and it would be icky

You sure? Jk

Funny story: I read the first arc in italian and it's spelled Quibli there (don't ask me why), so it just stuck

@@Darkseabreather how many large words were there, if there’s lots, Nono read for me lol

Read the series before commenting please! In the books there are actual lgbtq relationships because tui is a good person

*Pineapple and Jambu