All Time Top 10 Teams | Johnny vs Tbates vs Stumpy vs CJCJ

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JohnnyBoi_i

JohnnyBoi_i

3 жыл бұрын

Almost everyone tries to list their ten greatest RL teams of all time.
More JohnnyBoi_i:
Twitch - goo.gl/jVS809
TikTok - boiextr.page.link/TiTo​
Twitter - goo.gl/MZAB7r​
Podcast - Salt Cast - boiextr.page.link/Cast
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tbates: Twitch - boiextr.page.link/tbates
CJCJ: Twitch - boiextr.page.link/CJCJ
Stumpy: Twitch - boiextr.page.link/SubPar
Editing: FairJame
Twitch - boiextr.page.link/FJtw
Twitter - boiextr.page.link/FJ_Tw
Bonus Content:
Replay Reviews - boiextr.page.link/ii_ii
Brian's Channel - boiextr.page.link/nnnn

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@nodidog
@nodidog 3 жыл бұрын
Johnny should consider a monthly podcast, content like this is perfect listening for dogwalking
@jbird234
@jbird234 3 жыл бұрын
He has one, it's called Salt Cast
@nodidog
@nodidog 3 жыл бұрын
@@jbird234 Really? He needs to promote it, didn't even know it existed. I'll check it out 👍
@Nobody-eu6tb
@Nobody-eu6tb 3 жыл бұрын
@@nodidog smellsworth
@schuetzenbusenvisage
@schuetzenbusenvisage 3 жыл бұрын
@@nodidog after just a few episodes I've listened to, I can already tell it's a huge pile of interesting RL talk. easily the best podcast out there
@ScrNocks
@ScrNocks 9 ай бұрын
2 years later hehe
@calvintimme7037
@calvintimme7037 3 жыл бұрын
These are the conversations more RL enthusiasts need to have
@juulorval8576
@juulorval8576 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy they gave C9 the respect they deserve, that season 6 rlcs run was something else
@mondongo9323
@mondongo9323 3 жыл бұрын
It was their time to shine just like g2 in season 7 just before scrub scored that clutch 0 second buzzer at the finals
@jsome2348
@jsome2348 3 жыл бұрын
Except for Stumpy
@vadoom3353
@vadoom3353 3 жыл бұрын
Stumpy didn't give enough and tbates gave too much
@PotatoMC1
@PotatoMC1 3 жыл бұрын
Well... some of them
@juulorval8576
@juulorval8576 3 жыл бұрын
@@vadoom3353 yeahh correct, number 2 was the right place
@ChrisRLC
@ChrisRLC 3 жыл бұрын
Missed an opportunity to put CJCJ upside down face cam in the thumbnail like it was with yummi
@XLYRX-qd9wt
@XLYRX-qd9wt 3 жыл бұрын
i honestly feel like musty and johnnyBoi sleep with their headsets on
@Bucko99
@Bucko99 3 жыл бұрын
@Quest Chavez I see you follow musty on Instagram 🤣
@Icarys_
@Icarys_ 3 жыл бұрын
He actually doesn’t have ears, the headphones are part of his anatomy
@ohdearmygosh4090
@ohdearmygosh4090 3 жыл бұрын
@@Icarys_ lmao idk why but i died reading this
@XLYRX-qd9wt
@XLYRX-qd9wt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Icarys_ 😂😂👌🏻
@omgpuppet
@omgpuppet 3 жыл бұрын
Tbates really put Envy in there based on the _possibility_ that they could win a major.
@moshiadnfusionfallfa
@moshiadnfusionfallfa 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe the fact that they won four regional events 😞
@thedon6079
@thedon6079 3 жыл бұрын
FR that's such a meme. Putting a team that's not even the best in their region as a top 10 all time. They never even made a grand final for the major.
@Nobody-eu6tb
@Nobody-eu6tb 3 жыл бұрын
@@moshiadnfusionfallfa ssg has won 3 regionals
@thedon6079
@thedon6079 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nobody-eu6tb They won 2 regionals and a major
@jamesharrison3149
@jamesharrison3149 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I understand *why* and agree. They *are* the debatably best team rn in a season where there are SO many top-tier teams. SSG, NRG, BDS, Envy, Rogue (when First is popping off)... there are so many teams rn that are far above the competition comparatively (accounting for skill-ceiling and meta).
@alarche6236
@alarche6236 3 жыл бұрын
Highlights: 7:59 - CJCJ screw-up 11:45 - CJCJ leaves the room cuz of Stumpy's #10 37:23 - Tbates's funny build-up 38:10 - Tbates #7 pick 43:52 - visible confusion (CJCJ's #7 pick) 46:54 - Stumpy's ABYSMAL #7 pick 48:00 - CJCJ goes OFF LMFAOOOOOOO 58:05 - "I think I only have 9 teams btw" - Stumpy, an absolute BEAN 1:21:48 - Hypothetical Situations + "BAM you're dead" - Johnnyboi 1:31:00 - "The Elephant in The Room" - CJCJ 1:37:05 - Markydooda and the SARPBC days 1:39:51 - Stumpy's "#2" greatest team of all time 1:44:40 - Tbates's VERY questionable #2 and #1 "swap" 1:46:10 - Tbates explains his #1 pick 1:46:21 - CJCJ wants to die (also for the next 10 minutes just enjoy the debate lmfao) 1:57:54 - "Kaydop or Gimmick?" Debate 1:59:39 - Stumpy's (very cringe) #1 spot 2:01:45 - GIBBS APPRECIATION POG 2:08:05 - Who had the best rankings? - according to twitch chat 2:08:39 - SheepLover17...........
@oliverdoane3866
@oliverdoane3866 3 жыл бұрын
Stumpy should have said team rocket for #1
@thunderrl1465
@thunderrl1465 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverdoane3866 fr i genuinely thought he was going to
@thunderrl1465
@thunderrl1465 3 жыл бұрын
or at least the flying dutchmen cuz jessie is the goat
@holaxatzonek5553
@holaxatzonek5553 3 жыл бұрын
lmaoo tysm
@WraithW9
@WraithW9 3 жыл бұрын
Stumpy's #1 pick was the best in the whole video
@ginger1854
@ginger1854 3 жыл бұрын
Next up: 'All Time Top 10 Greatest Players'
@jamesharrison3149
@jamesharrison3149 3 жыл бұрын
If they do that, GarretG *should* be top 3 in every list. He has consistently been a top-5 player since he joined NRG. One of the few players to adapt to *every* meta change and be a top-5 player in the world, let alone NA.
@math.and.physics
@math.and.physics 3 жыл бұрын
#1 fairy #2 kaydop #3 kuxir #4 squishy #5 turbo #6 garret #7 lach
@gabecrdbl
@gabecrdbl 3 жыл бұрын
@@math.and.physics i agree tbh
@CHEEKYlad_lol
@CHEEKYlad_lol 3 жыл бұрын
@@math.and.physics LACH OMEGALUL
@math.and.physics
@math.and.physics 3 жыл бұрын
@@CHEEKYlad_lol yeah j mean i was just trolling from the beginning cuz objectivity doesn't really exist here since you cant figure out who "the best player" is with only competition outcomes and competitive mmr, because the game and meta have changed so much over time, and though consistency would totally be an important factor in this discussion, just guessing how we think S3 Kux and S6 squishy would fair against team bds nowadays with their old teams is frankly absolutely completely impossible, SO maybe it should be like top players of all time when they're popping off, because even the most showy players have to tune it down to make sure they arent ballchasin or whatevr @squishy on C9 after S6. AND WHICH GAMEMODE ¿ they are all played so differently and as soon as you leave 1v1 and go to 2v2 / 3v3 believe it or not chemistry becomes an enormous part of the discussion, that is, if johnny & crew continue to claim that "performance (in competitions)" is all that matters. no way to figure out who the best is. 100% bias
@benbird2100
@benbird2100 3 жыл бұрын
I love Tbates and I think he makes some really great points at times, but him trying to put Cloud 9 above the most dominant team to ever take the field on the rocket league world stage is an absolute train-wreck of an idea.
@AXP_4
@AXP_4 3 жыл бұрын
Turbopolsa-voilentpanda-kaydop The only trio to win rlcs 2 times consecutively and reach 3 rlcs finals consecutively
@zzz6515
@zzz6515 3 жыл бұрын
Vitality was at One goal to also do it, kaydop reach 6 rlcs finals consecutively, when u think about that, its just crazy
@AXP_4
@AXP_4 3 жыл бұрын
@@zzz6515 nope, vitally needed to win another bo7 because they came from lower bracket
@MM-gb3sv
@MM-gb3sv 3 жыл бұрын
@@AXP_4 no they didn't it was single elim final day
@AXP_4
@AXP_4 3 жыл бұрын
@@MM-gb3sv oh yeah but anyway, although kaydop made it 6 times into finals, he lost 3, turbopolsa won against him twice in season 8 and season 3, kaydop had fairy peak too, the master mind that all pros want on their team, but turbo never fails to be competitive
@zzz6515
@zzz6515 3 жыл бұрын
@@AXP_4 maybe i’ m wrong but in my memory, there is no bracket reset in tinal of rlcs 8
@jonnygatto4887
@jonnygatto4887 3 жыл бұрын
The looks on everyone's faces when stumpy said c9 at 7 is amazing 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@aidenguo5580
@aidenguo5580 3 жыл бұрын
1:50:00 Listen to Johnny just DESTROY TBates.
@nullptrRL
@nullptrRL 3 жыл бұрын
This is such an amazing conversation. Thanks for putting this together, it was great to see amazing commentators from 3 regions clashing over results and all-time placement.
@avic4724
@avic4724 3 жыл бұрын
Love this stuff saw it live and couldnt stop laughing, would love to see a list of top 10 best players of all time, keep up the great content
@williamholman967
@williamholman967 3 жыл бұрын
You need to get marky on one of these. I feel like he would have some really good insight as well as being really entertaining to hear his opinion on topics like this! Love these shows Johnny, keep them coming!
@inafridge8573
@inafridge8573 3 жыл бұрын
Even if marky doesnt say a smart thing, the way he talks makes him sound like he's right. Love his delivery
@toonturtle_
@toonturtle_ 3 жыл бұрын
Love these so much I'm so glad this exists, keep them coming Bois 💯❤️
@dylheiam
@dylheiam 3 жыл бұрын
Saw this on Twitter and couldn’t wait for the video🙌🏽
@kovugreen
@kovugreen 3 жыл бұрын
Tbates really doesn't grasp the concept of the relevance of time in greatness.
@bricemims8957
@bricemims8957 3 жыл бұрын
fax and he rates the teams on majors and worlds the puts envy on the list because they possibly could. Then bashes BDS when Johhny says they possibly could if there were worlds. And he put Dig 2nd??
@hellohi1445
@hellohi1445 2 жыл бұрын
@@bricemims8957 BDS just won LAN as well
@Top547-
@Top547- 3 жыл бұрын
I love these so much never watched so long videos all the way thru like this
@JammerSupreme
@JammerSupreme 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell Stumpy got salty after they all roasted him lmao 😂
@tabs1913
@tabs1913 3 жыл бұрын
That was highly enjoyable, thanks!
@Silentknight1171
@Silentknight1171 3 жыл бұрын
This was an entertaining talk. Gave me something to listen to while I pretend to work.
@cassianbaker5793
@cassianbaker5793 3 жыл бұрын
"The Audience" grand plats here to challenge the pros
@jdub910
@jdub910 3 жыл бұрын
Tbates I love you and I'm personally from NA but he is saying some crazy stuff in this video lmao
@bloodybackfat
@bloodybackfat 3 жыл бұрын
I think anyone who has been around since the very beginning of the esport has to agree or at least understand the F3 #3 pick. I think a lot of people just chose to forget how dominant that roster was. Most people probably haven't been around since that long and there's nothing wrong with that, but I'm happy Johnny is keeping their legacy alive. Just because they were dominant in early days of Rocket League doesn't mean you can just ignore everything that they achieved.
@impotenceaura
@impotenceaura 3 жыл бұрын
Love this kind of content Mr johnathon boi. I have Dig, C9, RV, NRG, F3 top 5
@Nobody-eu6tb
@Nobody-eu6tb 3 жыл бұрын
Top 3 worst picks: 1-c9 7# by stumpy 2-envy 7# by tbates 3-c9 1# by tbates
@yoyoyo761
@yoyoyo761 3 жыл бұрын
@@BansheeVi Putting c9 #1 is also 🤡
@yoyoyo761
@yoyoyo761 3 жыл бұрын
@@BansheeVi You've gotta new to say that. I don't think there's a single person that's played the game since release that could put dig anywhere but #1 with a straight face. It's just straight up wrong. As wrong as any other placement on their lists.
@yoyoyo761
@yoyoyo761 3 жыл бұрын
@@BansheeVi Wrong is wrong, I'd say it's equally bad.
@luvetohate
@luvetohate 3 жыл бұрын
I hope Stumpy didn't feel too bad. Even if you're a chill guy people online can be pretty harsh and it can get to you getting ripped on by that many people at once.
@babalitr
@babalitr 3 жыл бұрын
its fine they are all chill people and they are frienda
@jonmcatee3116
@jonmcatee3116 3 жыл бұрын
I love CJCJ so much! He’s freaking hilarious!
@harrylakers242424
@harrylakers242424 3 жыл бұрын
Stumpy said give me a moment to explain but proceeds to not about the c9 ranking? He made legit no logical points about why they are so low?
@ensco7
@ensco7 3 жыл бұрын
Just noticed the vid in my feed. Hell yeah!
@xer0895
@xer0895 3 жыл бұрын
I love this, next make a list of players
@ob7272
@ob7272 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent content.
@AlaReDuS
@AlaReDuS 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea Johnny and the others regarded Cloud9 so freaking high as to warrant a #2 spot but I'm glad they did. They dethroned the best team in RL history when they should've been at their strongest. I remember Johnny mentioning that, at the time, the offensive pressure that Gimmick brings to the table on the regular could only be matched by an on-form jstn, with Squishy being the defensive intermediate and torment tying up loose ends (though Squishy and Tor tended to swap their roles on the fly depending on the matchup) . They may not have been as dominant as Dignitas but no other team besides C9 can ever hope to match up to their record.
@AliG-yu2bn
@AliG-yu2bn 3 жыл бұрын
When you see tbates has put dig second. You are gonna hurt hearing his argument
@Narc0YT
@Narc0YT 3 жыл бұрын
Please do top players of all time like this! Also make sure Stumpy joins
@muhammadfathi2581
@muhammadfathi2581 3 жыл бұрын
I don't quite agree with Tbates' line of thought, so my discontent for his list is understandable. But Stumpy has good logical reasoning but somehow his picks can show otherwise which is remarkable.
@BOchamp01
@BOchamp01 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone have a link to the “best goal Johnny has ever seen” by Marc by 8 in the last major? Can’t seem to find it
@Gabriel-ju2yn
@Gabriel-ju2yn 3 жыл бұрын
Rocket League Esports channel, top play of the EU Major
@PotatoMC1
@PotatoMC1 3 жыл бұрын
www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/comments/ndziwh/rlcs_x_eu_marc_by_8_insane_ceiling_corner_pinch/?context=3
@tbates21
@tbates21 3 жыл бұрын
CONTENT 🙌🏾
@zinxrocks9250
@zinxrocks9250 3 жыл бұрын
facts
@tchilders5977
@tchilders5977 3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely think your list was wayyyy better than stumpy's to be fair and I can agree that c9 is in conversation for the best team of all time buuut I do think GFE/Dig edges them out juuuust a bit due to consitency and because of that consistency they became the Villians of RLCS which just made Cloud 9s dismanteling of the original machine become the greatest RLCS run and finals of all time. Which definently gives them some points for being the only team to ever just embarass let alone beat this ridiculous team.
@NEXUS_VSTGN
@NEXUS_VSTGN 3 жыл бұрын
I miss Fyshokid, he was the real OG. He invented the Flip reset he goes waaaaay back
@thund3r94
@thund3r94 3 жыл бұрын
Bro fyshokid was the shit lmao he was so good
@yoyoyo761
@yoyoyo761 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss. Fyshokid had the best youtube content by far when the game first came out, no contest. Guy hit absolutely insane shots for the era, was downright inspiring to see at the time.
@kyzyl4915
@kyzyl4915 3 жыл бұрын
NRG wasn’t just a goal away, they were a bump away from not losing off kick off
@Its-SKs
@Its-SKs 3 жыл бұрын
I need more Stumpy. Favorite wildcard.
@samseaton7682
@samseaton7682 3 жыл бұрын
CJCJ's face at 42:45 killed me, top reaction
@ohdearmygosh4090
@ohdearmygosh4090 3 жыл бұрын
Best discussion group! Change my mind, oh wait you can't
@TheGreatMrMagoo
@TheGreatMrMagoo 3 жыл бұрын
Tbates vs Johnnyboi is the best rocket league "feud". Also poor stumpy ❤️
@hassanfuad778
@hassanfuad778 3 жыл бұрын
If GFE/Dignitas isn't your 1, you're a casual
@bean6520
@bean6520 3 жыл бұрын
imagine calling tbates a casual
@jeresuominen7638
@jeresuominen7638 3 жыл бұрын
@@bean6520 Imagine not putting Gfe/Dig as your no1
@yoyoyo761
@yoyoyo761 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. If they aren't your #1 you haven't been in the scene long enough to remember their dominance.
@bean6520
@bean6520 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeresuominen7638 I completely disagree with him, but calling him a casual is just something else
@TheLifeofJay1
@TheLifeofJay1 3 жыл бұрын
Johnny could you do a top 10 or 15 greatest players of all time? I think we’d all love to see that.
@akkronym48
@akkronym48 3 жыл бұрын
Loooool I was not expecting this vod to include disrespect for Bill Russel, Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, and John Havlicek
@Robinson508
@Robinson508 3 жыл бұрын
The final dig and cloud9 argument is beautiful🥺
@Zightz
@Zightz 3 жыл бұрын
Not having GFE/Dig at number 1 is just straight up mental. It was almost unfair having Kaydop and Turbo on the same team, not to mention Panda.
@pS4TURN
@pS4TURN 3 жыл бұрын
Gale Force Esports was literally inevitable back then i couldn't count on another team to win a final
@mamamia5668
@mamamia5668 2 жыл бұрын
Tbates is on some real crack with that #1. Need some of it myself too
@chrisdenault7768
@chrisdenault7768 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with CJ's list the most. He's the only unbiased one
@iamnotjcook
@iamnotjcook 3 жыл бұрын
Tbates has literally no rationale in any of his cold takes. They're all terrible and they need serious goalpost movement to even think about
@pabloruedaarzoz8065
@pabloruedaarzoz8065 3 жыл бұрын
It makes for great content though
@iamnotjcook
@iamnotjcook 3 жыл бұрын
@@pabloruedaarzoz8065 I guess sounding stupid is great content when you can just get made fun of, but we already have stumpy in this group
@pabloruedaarzoz8065
@pabloruedaarzoz8065 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamnotjcook allways 2 there are, no more, no less. A Master and an apprendice
@Zimbomann
@Zimbomann 3 жыл бұрын
Stumpy and the wineglass kills me😂
@roflcoz
@roflcoz 3 жыл бұрын
how on earth does Tbates actually defend stumpy's flipside, i love it!
@bloodybackfat
@bloodybackfat 3 жыл бұрын
I think tbates doesn't understand the concept of greatness, he's arguing for who is/was the best team, but not who is the GREATEST. I hope the next time you get someone who actually understand the topics they are arguing about.
@malcolmmorris3947
@malcolmmorris3947 3 жыл бұрын
Season 1 IBP will always be my #1 in my heart
@ninja226
@ninja226 3 жыл бұрын
This video is great.
@thakillah301
@thakillah301 3 жыл бұрын
*SPOILER* I like how Tbates put cloud9 at the top because of "all that matters is winning" and then put BDS at 6 because winning absolutely everything isnt important in the EU region lmao
@thund3r94
@thund3r94 3 жыл бұрын
Well C9 3-0d constantly, bds loss games but old c9 used to never lose
@bolt-strikes
@bolt-strikes 3 жыл бұрын
@@thund3r94 old c9 literally lost during the RLCS they won. They came from lower bracket. C9 was really not that consistent. As Johnny said they just got random big wins over a long period of time. Back when Dig was at their peak you already knew the result before the tourney happened it was honestly so boring. No one said that about c9.
@thund3r94
@thund3r94 3 жыл бұрын
@@bolt-strikes in most of the league plays they would always 3-0 teams easily, except like g2 and nrg, in S6 they only lost to WDG, other then that they beat everyone, I just remember they always would 3-0 everyone
@AliG-yu2bn
@AliG-yu2bn 3 жыл бұрын
@@thund3r94 in that worlds they won game 5 with nrg and flipside. What are you on about. There is zero justification to put c9 as the greatest of all time.
@thund3r94
@thund3r94 3 жыл бұрын
@@AliG-yu2bn I never said they should be the greatest, but they should be in the list somewhere, they won as many lans as RV, and always got top 4 in lans, and they always were cracked in league play until season 8-9
@ZairRL
@ZairRL 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like G2’s 2nd place finish at a season 7 worlds shouldn’t really be worshipped so much. I think that it was impressive that they beat Vitality in Day 2 but they really only beat the EU #3 seed and Rogue who was popping but still only the NA #4 seed to make it to the GF in day 3. On the other side there was NRG, Vitality, AND Cloud9 aswell as peak FC Barca
@boescollects
@boescollects 3 жыл бұрын
Johnny.. You should make a video where you 1v1 another caster and have to cast the game while you play. It would be hilarious to hear your live commentary and roast your opponent in real time XD Keep up the good work!
@TheMadAtter
@TheMadAtter 3 жыл бұрын
Australians are the best list makers of all time. GG CJCJ and Yumi
@hirichard620
@hirichard620 3 жыл бұрын
C9 at 1 is an L, but TBates Celtics/F3 take is pretty accurate imo
@superslowmojoe401
@superslowmojoe401 3 жыл бұрын
1:50:05 Tbates, if only results matter with C9 having won that dreamhack, then why do you dismiss BDS because "Europe bad lmao"?
@pranavgo860
@pranavgo860 3 жыл бұрын
Cuz c9 won 4 lans and bds hasn't been to 1 yet
@superslowmojoe401
@superslowmojoe401 3 жыл бұрын
@@pranavgo860 that’s true, and I’m not saying that BDS is greater than c9, but he can’t just dismiss BDS because apparently Europe is so much worse than NA
@majesticmo5048
@majesticmo5048 2 жыл бұрын
@@pranavgo860 5 LANs if you count gimmick and squishy's 2v2 LAN
@mcl6780
@mcl6780 3 жыл бұрын
Johnny, we need another salt mine or something with you, shogun, marky and smellworth as casters
@poggzrl8812
@poggzrl8812 3 жыл бұрын
NRG - Garretg Jstn Squishy is the GOAT. Surprised no one put that on their list. They beat BDS in the only series they're known to have played and they've consistently stayed on top of the tightest RLCS ever (RLCSX). There's never been a consistent best in NA for a whole year. It's always been the big 3, or top 4. This NRG squad is almost always playing at a super high level and when they slump they still make it really hard for the other team to take games off them. But aight :)
@Dopted
@Dopted 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos please don’t go stumpy
@cru3her608
@cru3her608 3 жыл бұрын
i fully agree with johnny's list except i would put vitality above flipside.
@Abriellie
@Abriellie 3 жыл бұрын
F3 with m1k3 were practically like an early Dignitas. Dominating nearly every minor and major tournament they were in for an entire year. So I'm not so sure about putting them lower on the list as there was a larger gap between F3 and the other teams compared to the gap between Vitality and that era of teams.
@cru3her608
@cru3her608 3 жыл бұрын
@@Abriellie cuz F3 was so early that no one had the skill to challange them. Vitality did it way later when there was tons of competition.
@Abriellie
@Abriellie 3 жыл бұрын
@@cru3her608 All the other sarpbc vets that played the prequel for years and were also apart of the rocket league alpha and beta for a year and a half were there to challenge them remember? But yet F3 were clearly ahead of the competition 99% of the time. Even a very good team like Vitality wasn't ahead of the curve like that during their peak. Johnny talks about this topic in the video. Greatness in anything competitive imo is best measured in innovation that is still wildly used by everybody and a clear dominance of the competition within that era. And that describes F3. Vitality wasn't that, they were just slightly better than their peers. They were standing on the shoulders of giants. Technically improving on what F3 laid down. Jimi Hendrix and Pele are considered the greatest at what they do. Even though their skill has technically been eclipsed in the modern age.
@inafridge8573
@inafridge8573 3 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot that gReazy replaced M1k3 after rlcs s1. If m1k3 stayed and they still won s2 in dominant fashion like they did, then they would easily be a top 5 all time team and maybe even top 3 like CJ said. If this list allowed for slight roster changes then I would have NG and F3 a lot higher, because I feel like NG with maestro and F3 with greazy both maintained the same spirit / identity and I remember both eras as one, personally
@greed_conn749
@greed_conn749 3 жыл бұрын
Sad cj cj wasnt put upside down in thumbnail
@nobodyhere7704
@nobodyhere7704 3 жыл бұрын
Envy at 7??? I understand putting BDS up there but Envy? I have to know what tbates is smoking
@Nobody-eu6tb
@Nobody-eu6tb 3 жыл бұрын
7# had the worst picks 7-envy by tbates And 7th c9 by stumpy lmao
@davidarcher3386
@davidarcher3386 3 жыл бұрын
Envy and nrg are on the same level and nrg beat bds and no ones complaining ab bds being on the list
@Yahboyboter
@Yahboyboter 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidarcher3386 those were scrims not actual games
@Nobody-eu6tb
@Nobody-eu6tb 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidarcher3386 scrims lmao since when scrims matters? They are for practice and they clearly were since it wasnt annouced or anything and it wasnt live streamed either lol
@nobodyhere7704
@nobodyhere7704 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidarcher3386 Great ≠ Best. BDS might not be the best team but they’ve definitely been the most impressive being the best in a region for 10 months straight (maybe 12 if they win championships)
@A7XNoiD
@A7XNoiD 3 жыл бұрын
is this Tbates or Ncuti Gatwa?
@PerrythePlatypus0680
@PerrythePlatypus0680 2 жыл бұрын
10. Dignitas: violet panda, yukeo, aztral 9: Method/Complexity: metsanauris, alot, mognus 8: G2 Esports: Chicago, rizzo, jknaps 7: Nrg: Fireburner, jstn Garrett 6: bds: monkey moon, Marc, extra 5: Nrg: Turbo, jstn, Garrett 4: Flipside Tactics: mikerules, Marky, Kuxir 3: Renault Vitality: Scrub Killa, Fairy peak, Kaydop 2: Cloud 9: Squishy, Torment, Gimmick 1: Dignitas/Gale force: Turbo, Violetpanda, Kaydop
@lotrdude13
@lotrdude13 3 жыл бұрын
Disappointed CJ isn't upside down in the thumbnail lol
@benh1026
@benh1026 3 жыл бұрын
I had to come back and comment after envy got swept in the quarters of the major lmao
@Bucko99
@Bucko99 3 жыл бұрын
I want to say that Envy at peak performance is better than BDS at their peak. Yet BDS are more consistent, and win when it's more important. And neither should be on this list. Maybe BDS in bottom 2 but that's it.
@connor_phillipz5689
@connor_phillipz5689 3 жыл бұрын
CjCj is such a good addition
@xaviierm9332
@xaviierm9332 3 жыл бұрын
Love all of you❤️
@bdaduck
@bdaduck 3 жыл бұрын
When they get to tbates switching cloud9 and dig and I notice there’s still 45 minutes left on the video, oooooop....
@GregTurismo
@GregTurismo 3 жыл бұрын
TBates is wildin’ out here 😂
@15kalas15
@15kalas15 Жыл бұрын
I just want to remind you all that TBates identified the flip reset as the biggest threat in rocket league and you guys tried to argue that backboard shots were a bigger threat(because that's all most pros could do consistently at the time)
@114MrCool
@114MrCool 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Tbates knows the definition of greatness
@114MrCool
@114MrCool 3 жыл бұрын
They aren’t talking about skill it’s GREATNESS he just doesn’t get it
@bricemims8957
@bricemims8957 3 жыл бұрын
so Tbates rates the major and lans and all when it comes to BDS but puts envy on there for the possibility they could and then puts C9 over Dig. Like bro are the lans and majors important?
@inafridge8573
@inafridge8573 3 жыл бұрын
I think johnny's list is best and I p much agree but i also think Northern Gaming deserves to be in the conversation, maybe #11. Also bds hasnt proved themselves internationally so they should be below NRG, and also i live in the future where they lost to Vitality in RLCS X.
@ROBIN7682
@ROBIN7682 3 жыл бұрын
Cloud 9 above dignatas?????
@micahscheller7465
@micahscheller7465 3 жыл бұрын
Cloud 9 has is tied with dig for the most lan wins so they gotta be up there I haven’t watch it all yet tho lol
@Nobody-eu6tb
@Nobody-eu6tb 3 жыл бұрын
Dig did it on the biggest stage bro
@andrepires3475
@andrepires3475 3 жыл бұрын
c9 won 1 worlds and thats the only final of worlds they got, dig/gfe got 2 worlds and and 3 finals + dig has better results in all tourneys they played against, there's no way of putting c9 at #1 bro, even NA biased fans can't do that, i think tbates did it for the impressions
@micahscheller7465
@micahscheller7465 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrepires3475 your goofy I didn’t say c9 was the best team ever I just said they gotta be up there
@andrepires3475
@andrepires3475 3 жыл бұрын
@@micahscheller7465 oh okay, mb then xd yea, they definitely deserve
@bloodybackfat
@bloodybackfat 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrepires3475 Also DIG was a lot more dominant in their region compared to C9, they almost had a perfect season S6.
@dirkronge1275
@dirkronge1275 3 жыл бұрын
true
@Succtrum
@Succtrum 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just saying I feel like stumpy could have saved his list if he put flipside at 1 also just saying kuxir and marky im pretty sure most mentioned on all the list
@karimthebeastyt15
@karimthebeastyt15 3 жыл бұрын
Where is nrg squishy garretg justin
@lotrdude13
@lotrdude13 3 жыл бұрын
I love Cloud9 and all, but Tbates' insistence that NA is way better than EU and that C9 is better than the two-time champs is ridiculous.
@glopple
@glopple 3 жыл бұрын
Especially after C9 loss wdg in eleague they fell so hard I mean multiple 17-24th losses thats why for me they will never in a million years even beat f3 (mikerules) because f3 could at least hold their weight for a long time compared to c9
@joranklandermans8864
@joranklandermans8864 3 жыл бұрын
I really thought stumpy was gonna put The Flying Dutchmen at one...
@Big-KruzZ
@Big-KruzZ 3 жыл бұрын
Johnny has been class the whole way
@ollielynch4733
@ollielynch4733 3 жыл бұрын
Tbates does a whole lot of talking but not a whole lot of thinking, I’m starting to think that he doesn’t even know what he himself is saying
@Jerkasaur
@Jerkasaur 3 жыл бұрын
Dude literally has brain damage. Has zero logic in his arguments
@lucashrabal4953
@lucashrabal4953 3 жыл бұрын
Tbates is a national treasure. RL needs some hot takes and drama.
@shenrl5624
@shenrl5624 3 жыл бұрын
Kaydop fanboi Johnny - 17:30 Also Kaydop fanboi Johny - 27:30
@xer0895
@xer0895 3 жыл бұрын
Tbates camera Jesus Christ
@danielmullane5387
@danielmullane5387 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Stumpy
@reallycoolguy1234
@reallycoolguy1234 3 жыл бұрын
Man no one but Johnny is giving any respect to OG flipsid3, I was a big fan of the pro scene in 2015-2016 and they would dominate tournaments while m1ke was literally falling out of his chair drunk and marky would be trolling kux the whole time.
@macswellrl7024
@macswellrl7024 3 жыл бұрын
Flip resetting and having the option to is way scarier for the opponents then double tapping
@thertcll
@thertcll 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Tbates missing hard here. Does he just not understand what great means? 😂
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