ALLEN&HEATH No 40 - Groups: one of three ways to control the inputchannels of your Mixer!

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Күн бұрын

Hi guys and girls,
besides using the force, there are different ways to apply control over your channels: DCAs (Digitally Controlled Amplifier), Gangs und Groups. In this video we talk about GROUPs: What it is, how to assign and what to do with it, including some tips and tricks and a displaced spacecraft. Hope you like it. 😁
Cheers,
André
INDEX
0:00 Intro
0:20 What are groups
0:37 How to setup your groups
1:43 Assigning channels via assignbutton
2:55 Assigning channels via touchscreen
3:42 Assigning with the CH to ALL button
4:11 Assign groups to outputbusses
4:39 Something comletely different
4:51 Group processing
5:13 GEQ fader flip
5:56 Guided by the light
6:20 Mix External In
6:48 This is the end...

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@colinrcarter 3 ай бұрын

Perfect - just perfect, simple, to the point and easy to understand, thank you.

@AndreSchaier 3 ай бұрын

You´re very welcome!

@JAROCHELOcesarcastro 2 жыл бұрын

Just great explanation. Thank you for teaching us without wasting our time! 👍🏽

@CodyJDyke 3 жыл бұрын

This video is insanely helpful! Being new to the SQ series all of your videos are invaluable! Thanks!

@cediethedogsawaw7598 Жыл бұрын

More tutorial very helpful, from Philippines Thank you and GodBless

@RUGBYmusic Жыл бұрын

Thanks for clearing that up for me!

@generalsamuk 2 жыл бұрын

If A&H haven't given you any free gear for doing these by now, then you're definitely due a few complimentary mixers in the post! Epic series & many thanks :-D

@AndreSchaier 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that´s really kind of you!!!! Thank you

@matesdantesable 3 ай бұрын

❤

@itsNLOV3 7 ай бұрын

Great Vid

@STNtontechnik 3 жыл бұрын

The Group posibilities in the Sq is amazing. Having the chance to sidechain with the groups is tottaly mind blowing for a console in this price range. BTW. your videos are great, funnies and full of precise info!!!! I really miss my SQ5, i moved to Germany in November and i will have it back with me in June, i hope!!!

@AndreSchaier 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Juan, welcome to Germany, the land of beer and honey! Hope you get to do many gigs with your SQ! And thank you very much for your kind words. I really appreciate it! Take care

@STNtontechnik 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreSchaier und Brot!!! ich liebe Brot!!!!

@AndreSchaier 3 жыл бұрын

@@STNtontechnik Haha, wirklich? Ja warum auch nicht! Ich habe mal ein Jahr lang in London gewohnt. Da musst ich erleben was es heißt, kein vernünftiges Brot zu haben...

@RI-du6ok 2 жыл бұрын

@@AndreSchaier Bless

@soundofmonolith1215 2 ай бұрын

thanks 😎

@KarelZen 3 жыл бұрын

lol what is that transition with the plane? HAHAHA. this is a perfect explanation btw. thank you!

@AndreSchaier 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Karel, thanks for the compliment! That transition was me just being silly...it´s a STAR WARS Spaceship, but with the STAR TREK Soundtrack. 🤪

@KarelZen 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreSchaier HAHA its fine tho. I just find it hilarious!

@baveraydemir5758 5 ай бұрын

Hi, i use qu pad app. And i want to use auxes seperatly. If i volume up the group 1-2, then my monitors which is plugged in to 1-2 output is also volumes up. But i want to make them seperate like aux1 is different and aux 2 is different. So after that, i can send volumes and effects seperetly.

@johnlackner1193 2 жыл бұрын

You saved me a lot of time figuring this out and you kept a lot of hair on my scalp! keep up the good work! By the way, do you have an ipad setup video?

@AndreSchaier 2 жыл бұрын

Hi John, atm I don´t have a video dedicated to mixpad on iPad, but it´s a very good idea! Cheers, André

@jayesmoker1140 Жыл бұрын

The groups work realy wierd to me coming from the X32. I cannot set the levels of the channels going into it like I can with LR or auxes. It is either on or off only. This presents a big problem when trying to send a channel to a group and other groups/mixes at the same time as you no longer have control of the level between them. To reiterate, if you select the master or an aux you are now setting levels for that mix, if you select a group however your mix does not change, the faders for the inputs do not move and you cant adjust the levels into the group. Since I cant seam to be able to send an aux to the master using an aux would not fix his issue either. (aux you can set mix levels but not then send to the master, groups cant set a mix levels into the group but can send audio to the master. Any ideas or reason for the limitation?

@borekbartolsic8211 Жыл бұрын

Hello Andre or anyone here, I have multiple channels assigned in group that goes to MainLR. Other Mixes for AUX output are taking input from used unmixed channels. However whenever I mute the group, signal is still going to other mixes (like it should). I would like to utilize same effect like assigning channels to DCA and muting the whole DCA, on Groups and use their features like GEQ, PEQ and Compressor. On 3rd party mixing app I can gang together mute attribute of DCA (with assigned channels) and Group (with same channels). However on SQ5 we can gang attributes only of Inputs (Channels, not Mixes). MuteGroups are great solution, but I can’t activate them by muting the Group (I have to separately press Soft keys). And utilizing both DCA and Groups is a bit hard whenever I need to change stage setup. My question is: How can I mute channel output by muting Group? (Sending Groups to Mixes is not good solution for me)

@capscar6030 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this - short and to the point... but Star Trek music with a Star Wars ship ?... there is a disturbance in the force :)

@AndreSchaier 3 жыл бұрын

Live fong and prosper on the dark side! 🖖🏻

@ronnelson7828 2 жыл бұрын

This is illogical.

@crowdstagelive 2 ай бұрын

Hi, i saw in your SQ5 BOARD can you explain how to assign all channels mute at a time for soft key No. 1

@AndreSchaier 2 ай бұрын

Go to Routing, click on Mute Assign, Assign a channel to or view a mute group. When You view a mute group, you can assign as many channels as you like to a mute group. Hope tha helps

@johnlackner1193 2 жыл бұрын

I have an SQ6. I use the soft rotaries for channel FX sends, and I have assigned the vocal channels to a group. Now the FX on soft rotaries on the vocal channels don't work. Is there a fix for this?

@dtheman826 3 жыл бұрын

Question on your group routing. Near 4:23 you unassigned the group from the LR and route to a Matrix. I am still trying to wrap my head around matrix usage, so can you explain the need to do this, rather than just assign to the LR mix, please? Thanks as always!! -DC

@AndreSchaier 3 жыл бұрын

There is no NEED to unassign it from the main LR. But it´s a good to be able to. For example: You have some extra speakers, that need something different in it, than your mains. (The Drums are loud enough in the room your in, but not in the next room. You could have the drums on a group and add it to the matrix that feed speaker in that other room). Hope that helps a bit! Cheers, André

@bertrandolf9733 11 ай бұрын

Hi, so if i want to use a group for parallel compression of e.g. percussions i can't use the LR Mainbus for the dynamically more open channels and have to open another group for those so the channels have same run time before output? I understand why the bus needs some time but i don't understand why the stream to LR isn't simply delayed / latency compensated as soon as an input is assigned to different busses. That's a downer and would use up groups even if no processing at all was needed. I know there's the parallel path but i want different EQs (more low and high end in the heavily compressed signals) for resemblance of natural hearing, like a dynamic loudness button. Like it is i'd prefer selecting the same input on neighbouring fader strips or on customized layers - that way i need no group at all and can have individual parallel EQs and comps for each and every input, but then they need time to be all set ... and if you rang out mean resonances in the channel EQ you will have them partially back in the parallel channel if you use the filters differently - will that also create audible phase problemsn? Guess i have to use up double as many groups just for the lack of latency compensation hmmmmm.

@jstamets 2 ай бұрын

While the video is pretty nice, it was a tad incorrect for the SQ on this point. The SQ does have phase coherent mixing - all latency is compensated so that regardless of the internal routing of the signal, all signals will be phase aligned on the outputs. Additionally, the total latency for the console is

@bertrandolf9733 2 ай бұрын

@@jstamets thank you that helps a ton! I'm currently on SQ using Metric Halo ULN8 as a siderack for it's DSP graphs and supertight filtering - incredibly capeable combo!

@tony8236 Жыл бұрын

HI. these videos are very interesting. I wanted to ask you: is it possible to make a group like you did for the drums to be sent to the master if you need 12 auxes? i seem to have seen in the setup that if you select 12 aux they are 0 groups. I find the group function very interesting because it allows for further adjustment

@AndreSchaier Жыл бұрын

Hi Tony, on the SQ you have a total of 12 so called "mixes" that can be configured to be groups or auxes. If you need 12 auxes, then you have indeed no mixes left to be your group. There is one workaround that sadly involves money: you could buy a me1 or me500 unit. These small mixers that are independend of your SQ and would provide the musician with the ability to mix themselfs. So, if you happen to have enough budget you could for instance get 12 me1/me500 units for your monitor mixes and then could use all your 12 mixes in the SQ to create groups. Hope that helps, CHeers

@tony8236 Жыл бұрын

@@AndreSchaier Thank you. i know me-1 very well. I've used it on tour as a musician and it's phenomenal. the only drawback is that you would have to explain how it works to the musicians and waste a lot of time if you work with different artists. for a stable tour, however, it is the best solution

@ericvantellingen8648 Жыл бұрын

@@AndreSchaier what are the diffences between group and auxes, it seems the same.. when do you use a group rather than use a aux ? than you

@rubensandesh8042 2 жыл бұрын

hello ,I have SQ 6 AND 24 INPUT AND 12 OUT stage box ,,,I want more outs so I wanna buy a another stage box.,,but I will hove only 12 AUX OUTS in my console ,,, how to increase the out in console ..????

@AndreSchaier 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ruben, the SQ mixer has 12 stereo mix channels with processing that can be used as either auxiliaries or groups. You can not change that. However, if you are willing to invest into the ME personal monitoring system, you can provide your musicians with more monitor possibilities. ME-1 and ME-500 are small mixers that usually sit right next to the musician, who can mix themselfs. You can daisychain the MEs and you will not loose any of yout 12mix channels on your SQ. Hope that helps a bit. Cheers André

@Gauseltown 3 жыл бұрын

I think for routing channels to a group, you just have to press the assign button and not the ch. to mix and assign button.

@AndreSchaier 3 жыл бұрын

Hi 27mal5, you can actually use both. One is for: " who wants more guitar?". The other one: "what do you want to have in your monitor?"

@Gauseltown 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreSchaier I thought the assign button is there to assign channels to groups or the L/R and the "ch. to mix button" is there to send the selected ch. to different aux mixes. I'm confused.