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The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

Жыл бұрын

February 12 represents the 214th birthday of Charles Darwin, a scientist whose ideas transformed human understanding of the natural world, and undoubtedly one of the most influential scientists in history. But that history may have been different, as Dawrin’s career altering voyage aboard HMS Beagle almost didn’t happen.
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@JDMunoz-ct9xn
@JDMunoz-ct9xn Жыл бұрын
"The unsettling years in the company of sailors would taint Charles and spoil him for the church." I have never been so proud to have served in the US Navy.
@chiefslinginbeef3641
@chiefslinginbeef3641 Жыл бұрын
Your reputation need not precede you I suppose. I guess the Army isn't as retarded as I thought ....
@captainez
@captainez Жыл бұрын
1969-1975 strange time ,still have the friends 🏴‍☠
@Grimpy970
@Grimpy970 Жыл бұрын
This video is 3 hours old, has over 3000 views, and just shy of 1000 'likes'. I've seen your channel grow over the years, and I'm downright proud of both you and your family who frequently help make these videos. Keep up the good work! You're doing a genuine service to humanity
@hello-cn5nh
@hello-cn5nh Жыл бұрын
Yet your comment (at the time of this writing) is approximately 6 hours old
@koriw1701
@koriw1701 Жыл бұрын
@@hello-cn5nh 😂
@WildWestGal
@WildWestGal Жыл бұрын
@Derek Anon Perfectly said, I agree completely.
@armagosa1
@armagosa1 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@jessepollard7132
@jessepollard7132 Жыл бұрын
he wasn't the first either.
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 Жыл бұрын
His book, The Voyage of The Beagle, is enthralling. It reveals his common humanity in the volume.
@jedtattum9996
@jedtattum9996 Жыл бұрын
if you haven't read voyage of the beagle you should... a true ripping yarn.
@davidhowe6905
@davidhowe6905 Жыл бұрын
Read it just recently, so this video was timely!
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I just ordered a copy based on your recommendation.
@hello-cn5nh
@hello-cn5nh Жыл бұрын
Ah Charles, the father of Social Darwinism and inspiration for Hitler's ethnic cleansing
@williamwenck5712
@williamwenck5712 Жыл бұрын
For some reason, I also haven’t read it. I put it on hold at my library. Thanks Captain and Jed for the recommendation. 👏👏
@whome4642
@whome4642 Жыл бұрын
Darwin wasn’t the last rich kid that spent his time at university partying instead of studying.
@Banditt42
@Banditt42 Жыл бұрын
Tommy Boy
@fillhixx
@fillhixx Жыл бұрын
Nor the first…
@tincupnickleboythe1st700
@tincupnickleboythe1st700 Жыл бұрын
Or, come home with a degree that said he knew how to do something he really didnt know how to do
@guytansbariva2295
@guytansbariva2295 Жыл бұрын
Plenty of poor kids party in college too. But the rich kids have their family to fall back on if they fail out of school. At least the computer industry is making things more equal so the rich kids don't have all of the advantages. I know many younger people without even a college degree making over $100,000/year in different IT sectors....mostly self taught and self-motivated.
@samiam619
@samiam619 Жыл бұрын
Did tRump party at school? Or was he unpopular even then? Cadet Bonespurs and all that…
@-jeff-
@-jeff- Жыл бұрын
It amazed me that Darwin himself seems to have been on the Beagle through natural selection.
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 Жыл бұрын
Very random choice... 🔥😈🔥
@revel8r413
@revel8r413 Жыл бұрын
Lol😂
@daveroberts7295
@daveroberts7295 Жыл бұрын
The process is the same, chance, luck, education, choice. His father never said no, he just said "I look at it this way" but went as far as asking his brother in law his opinion, his mind was far from closed, he invited a second opinion. A good man.
@Russia-bullies
@Russia-bullies Жыл бұрын
😁
@davidmorse8432
@davidmorse8432 Жыл бұрын
It was fate!
@kelleylaughlin392
@kelleylaughlin392 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on the naturalists Wallace and Bates that corresponded with Darwin.
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 Жыл бұрын
Darwin lived a very full life. A great inspiration to me, in my endeavours. Thanks to my oldest friend, Nick, who lent me his entire library of his work. Cheers, from one old fool to another.
@jedtattum9996
@jedtattum9996 Жыл бұрын
wallace was employed by darwin.
@kelleylaughlin392
@kelleylaughlin392 Жыл бұрын
@@jedtattum9996 Yes, many years after the publication of Origin of Species and after Wallace had returned from Indonesia.
@hello-cn5nh
@hello-cn5nh Жыл бұрын
Darwinism is the basis for Hitler's ethnic cleansing
@jarmokankaanpaa6528
@jarmokankaanpaa6528 Жыл бұрын
Fitzroy's concern that he needed a gentleman companion to avoid depression and going the way of Captain Stokes was well founded: his own uncle on his mother's side, Lord Castlereagh, had committed suicide in 1822 by slitting his throat with a razor and Fitzroy feared that he himself might succumb to a similar fate. In fact, he did so in the end, although it only came about nearly 30 years after the return of the Beagle and was due to financial straits rather than a lonely sea voyage.
@jarmokankaanpaa6528
@jarmokankaanpaa6528 Жыл бұрын
@@GarrishChristopherRobin777 I don't think you can really say that; his money was mostly inherited and he spent it on "public expenditure", including paying for a large part of the fitting-out expenses of the Beagle's second cruise. I have seen no mention of Fitzroy dabbling in speculation; he was an extremely concientious person who sought to carry out the tasks entrusted to him (as, e.g., governor of New Zealand, as head of the Royal Naval Dockyards at Woolwich, and as head of what later became the Meteorological Office) even if it meant using his own funds to do so.
@hushedmusic
@hushedmusic Жыл бұрын
I feel lots of sypmathy for FitzRoy
@drmodestoesq
@drmodestoesq Жыл бұрын
@@hushedmusic I've read conflicting accounts regarding Fitzroy's attitudes towards slavery. One, that he was a staunch supporter of it. And two, that he was actively involved in the eradication of the slave trade.
@Samrushtonblight
@Samrushtonblight Жыл бұрын
Great presentation, thanks. Just reading "The Voyage of the Beagle", a ripping yarn which provides an vivid impression of Darwin's insatiable curiosity, indomitable energy and courage. Knowing now how close it came to never happening makes it all the more precious.
@onelovemon1784
@onelovemon1784 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. I want to read the Voyage now. I like your brief description. Did you finish reading it? 😊
@starpartyguy5605
@starpartyguy5605 Жыл бұрын
I’m currently building a wooden model of the Beagle. And I have an 8 year old beagle. I named him Hunter, after the constellation Orion.
@wilurbean
@wilurbean 3 ай бұрын
Mine is named Charlie, because he's a brainlet and couldn't remember any other name But the other dog is named Wilbur after Wilbur Wright bc they share a birthday. He's flown around the US with me
@christianbuczko1481
@christianbuczko1481 Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the lunar men, Erasmus Darwin, was a member along with wedgewood, and several other famous genius engineers, scientists and industrials who all met regularly on the lunar full moon, when it was light enough to travel in the evenings. Their collaborations transformed the world leading the industrial revolution and creating the world we live in.
@GaryHurd
@GaryHurd Жыл бұрын
The recent PBS biography of Benjamin Franklin was particularly disappointing as they ignored Franklin's membership in the Lunar Society, and their influence on his science, and politics.
@DavidHBurkart
@DavidHBurkart Жыл бұрын
Fascinating history of Chas. Darwin indeed. I was not aware of the background of the difficulty with his commission aboard the Beagle. This spawns interesting consideration of what might not have been. Thank you Lance
@brettd3206
@brettd3206 Жыл бұрын
Packet ships were mentioned in a passing fashion, but deserve to be remembered more deeply.
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a reasonably in depth study of the British "Packets"...Anyone know any specific books on the subject?
@stand.up.FFS.
@stand.up.FFS. Жыл бұрын
packet ships... history that deserves to be remembered.....
@lizj5740
@lizj5740 Жыл бұрын
@@trooperdgb9722 Steam Packet Ships, 5th ed., 1987, by Henry Fred. Described on the Abe Books' website as "136 pp; fine overview of the STEAM PACKET COMPANY'S ships; profusely illustrated with full-page b & w photos". Just that description told me something I didn't know before. Alternatively, Ships of the Isle of Man Steam Packet Company, 1999, by Steven Dearden and Ken Hassell. Described on Amazon's website as "48 pages. Dearden and Hassell's book provides an in-depth look at the ships and people involved in the running of the Steam Packet Company service from the first regular weekly packet boat established by the British Government in 1767 to the amalgamation of the Steam Packet Company with Sealink in 1985 and its take-over by Sea Containers Ltd. in 1996." I'm having trouble with "48 pages" and "in depth".
@talanigreywolf7110
@talanigreywolf7110 Жыл бұрын
Your cat be like "Put me down Daad!"
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Жыл бұрын
Lol yes. He was fine at first, but it took several takes. He was definitely over it.
@spambob7009
@spambob7009 Жыл бұрын
History Cat! ❤
@abc-coleaks-info3180
@abc-coleaks-info3180 Жыл бұрын
That cat always manages to look so thrilled. 😂
@nicholasstilley2370
@nicholasstilley2370 Жыл бұрын
Gotta mention that Charles Darwin and Abraham Lincoln were both born on February 12th 1809
@hello-cn5nh
@hello-cn5nh Жыл бұрын
Lincoln: freed slaves Darwin: influenced Hitler
@cafiend
@cafiend Жыл бұрын
Beagle became a bark. Too perfect.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Жыл бұрын
Yup
@georgefspicka5483
@georgefspicka5483 Жыл бұрын
Excellent "behind-the-scenes" revelations. I've always found the history of science fascinating, especially things related to geology :) If I could give this a one-to-five star rating, I'd pick six.
@donaldbussey2326
@donaldbussey2326 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@maxstoner5527
@maxstoner5527 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks from 🇦🇺 for the entertainment ✌️
@rhuephus
@rhuephus Жыл бұрын
thanks again THG ..
@arifshahabuddin8888
@arifshahabuddin8888 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Charles Darwin and Abraham Lincoln were born on the exact same day: February 12th, 1809.
@markiliff
@markiliff Жыл бұрын
Nicely done
@TealCheetah
@TealCheetah Жыл бұрын
history cat got too excited at the mention of fishes
@neilbuckley1613
@neilbuckley1613 Жыл бұрын
Surprised the Royal Navy had a "Cherokee" class of ships, seems more something thw US navy would have created.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Жыл бұрын
Oddly the first HMS Cherokee was commissioned in 1808, while the first USS Cherokee was not commissioned until 1859.
@Dave_Sisson
@Dave_Sisson Жыл бұрын
In the 20th century the British Navy had "Tribal Class" destroyers. The second class of Tribal's were their biggest and best destroyers in WW2. They were mostly named after native peoples of the British Empire, including ten North American tribes. But there were tribal class destroyers named after non British Empire ethnicities such as HMS Cossack named after the Cossacks native to Ukraine. My point is that the British had a strong tradition of naming navy ships after races and tribes, so it is not surprising they had a type of ship called Cherokee.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Жыл бұрын
@@Dave_Sisson although, to be fair, the Cherokee class was not consistent in naming convention. Hence “HMS Beagle.”
@garywagner2466
@garywagner2466 Жыл бұрын
@@Dave_Sisson, as did the Royal Canadian Navy. Their most famous Tribal HMCS “Haida” never visited the people after whom she was named. Haida still survives as a museum ship in Hamilton, Ontario.
@guydegregg6869
@guydegregg6869 Жыл бұрын
Tragic how Cpt Fitzroy would end up taking his own life as did his predecessor Cpt Stokes, both suffered terribly from chronic depression and poverty.
@sullivanspapa1505
@sullivanspapa1505 Жыл бұрын
The History Guy’s kitty is very shy, enjoy see him/her!
@boogerie
@boogerie Жыл бұрын
Ironically history probably would not have that much different as Darwin basically sat on the theory of natural selection for years until he was alerted by a friend that Alfred Russell Wallace had arrived at the theory independently and was about to publish. In the interest of fair play and all that the two men would presented their findings jointly in 1858.
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 Жыл бұрын
I would also suggest you look up Erasmus Darwin…
@boogerie
@boogerie Жыл бұрын
@@allangibson8494 I'M AWARE OF HIS WORK!
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 Жыл бұрын
@@boogerie Charles Darwin’s writings were very derivative of his grandfather’s thoughts so Charles could have entirely published the same books but with different case studies (probably with a heavier reference to barnacles - that being his previous life’s work). On the other hand he may not have gotten into barnacles without five years at sea…
@GaryHurd
@GaryHurd Жыл бұрын
@@allangibson8494 The "theory" proposed in verse by Erasmus Darwin was neither thorough, nor empirically grounded.
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 Жыл бұрын
@@GaryHurd Yes but it was a hypothesis in search of evidence not a finished scientific work. Lots of hypotheses get tested - Charles Darwin’s work lacked the evidence we have now but proved remarkably robust under test.
@seanwiley558
@seanwiley558 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy reading the Darwin Awards!
@kenjackson5685
@kenjackson5685 Жыл бұрын
1st class...thanks for sharing
@johnhallsd
@johnhallsd Жыл бұрын
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
@BlueBaron3339
@BlueBaron3339 Жыл бұрын
As another commenter noted, it wasn't evolution that was the breakthrough here. That had been advanced as a theory for at least a century before Darwin. What made On the Origin of Species world-changing was natural selection. And if Darwin hadn't traveling aboard the Beagle, Alfred Russel Wallace would have published the same conclusions, though he reached them through a very different route.
@MolonFrikenLabe
@MolonFrikenLabe Жыл бұрын
Incredible mind on Darwin. The ability to accept reality is a talent many will never have.
@davea6314
@davea6314 Жыл бұрын
I agree that there are many fools who can't accept reality including Don the Con Trump who still refuses to accept the fact that he lost a fair election in 2020.
@jliller
@jliller Жыл бұрын
"I reject your reality and substitute my own."
@hello-cn5nh
@hello-cn5nh Жыл бұрын
How many will accept the reality that Darwin's influence had on Adolf Hitler
@MolonFrikenLabe
@MolonFrikenLabe Жыл бұрын
@@hello-cn5nh How many will accept the reality that Jesus' influence had on Charlemagne?
@hello-cn5nh
@hello-cn5nh Жыл бұрын
@@MolonFrikenLabe Jesus? That's the guy who mows my lawn.
@chadparsons50
@chadparsons50 Жыл бұрын
"The biblical flood, a worldwide phenomenon considered real by most geologists at the time." But Darwin was allowed free inquiry, which led to him being able to develop new ideas. Freedom is key!
@fearthehoneybadger
@fearthehoneybadger Жыл бұрын
"Almost not history". I mean; who would remember a ship called the Beagle?
@roberthess2762
@roberthess2762 Жыл бұрын
Snoopy
@flagmichael
@flagmichael Жыл бұрын
Charlie Brown surely would.
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter Жыл бұрын
This five-year mission was one of the most important voyages in human history, and it's a shame that so many Americans take the same attitude that Captain FitzRoy held toward Darwin's work. I like to imagine an elderly Dr. Stephen Maturin corresponding with Darwin when not too busy teaching natural philosophy to the grandchildren that he and Christine Wood have.
@glenfry5871
@glenfry5871 Жыл бұрын
No one disputes his work. He outlined natural selection. We dispute the way others have used his work to refute creationism. It obvious on many levels that the natural world is not a product of happenstance. That is what we dispute. A claim that Darwin never made.
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter Жыл бұрын
@@glenfry5871 His work is the refutation of creationist nonsense.
@Mnogojazyk
@Mnogojazyk Жыл бұрын
Maybe Public Radio International (PRI) will broadcast the festivities by PRI. Nice history lesson.
@robkeehner2204
@robkeehner2204 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this together George! I'll be instructing you novices.
@MarshOakDojoTimPruitt
@MarshOakDojoTimPruitt Жыл бұрын
thanks
@leegoddard2618
@leegoddard2618 Жыл бұрын
The 12th of Feb. is also Lincoln's Birthday, and MY birthday, as well. 😁
@geoffreyrobson4745
@geoffreyrobson4745 Жыл бұрын
During your next visit to the would recommend a visit to Darwin's house, Downe House, in the village of Downe, south east of London. Another reason to visit, two good pubs in the village!
@RobinMarks1313
@RobinMarks1313 Жыл бұрын
I like beagles. My dad hunted. So, my one of my very first memories is puppy breath. I could write much more about them. From the feel of their ears, to the bad tempers when they get old. The damn things imprinted on me. I'm mostly dog.
@mrb3405
@mrb3405 Жыл бұрын
For anyone who enjoyed this video, I would highly recommend Kirk Wallace Johnson's The Feather Thief. It's a bizarre story that details the clash between various groups, primarily the natural sciences and fly fishermen.
@williamwigfield7296
@williamwigfield7296 Жыл бұрын
One of the best I've read in some time. A history nut as well as a tyer, it hits home how an unchecked passion can lead to such destruction. Hats and flies killed as many animals as the pigeons and buffalo's by hunters. Crazy
@michaelotwell8112
@michaelotwell8112 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting do more history on scientists
@michaelotwell8112
@michaelotwell8112 Жыл бұрын
Richard Feynman would be a good start
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 Жыл бұрын
l can only imagine what the voyage on the HMS Beagle must have been like .......Thanks to THG🎀 I can ponder the idea of it 👍 Shoe🇺🇸
@timengineman2nd714
@timengineman2nd714 Жыл бұрын
I recommend watching (if necessary on KZfaq) the scene from the movie Gettysburg where Picket and his Brigadiers talk about Darwin and his Theory around a campfire... You will be smiling if not laughing!
@hagerty1952
@hagerty1952 Жыл бұрын
That Darwin was an abolitionist is underscored by the fact that he and Abraham Lincoln were born on the very same day.
@charlesdudek7713
@charlesdudek7713 Жыл бұрын
What an interesting episode. I was unaware of Darwin's early life before he got on track. Good seeing the History Cat. He looks like he had other plans though.
@scottmccloud9029
@scottmccloud9029 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he had a vivid imagination.
@sullivanspapa1505
@sullivanspapa1505 Жыл бұрын
He’s thinking Feed Me, they all do y know!
@charlesdudek7713
@charlesdudek7713 Жыл бұрын
@@sullivanspapa1505 You've got that right!
@hello-cn5nh
@hello-cn5nh Жыл бұрын
@@charlesdudek7713 you misspelled crack
@charlesdudek7713
@charlesdudek7713 Жыл бұрын
@@hello-cn5nh lol
@LilyFisher4
@LilyFisher4 Жыл бұрын
Charles Darwins cousin, Sir Francis Galton is considered by many to be the father of the eugenics movement. Galton is credited with coining the term “eugenics “ as well as the phase “ nature versus nurture.”
@rhuephus
@rhuephus Жыл бұрын
ha ha "eugenics" ... something NOT worth remembering
@hello-cn5nh
@hello-cn5nh Жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense considering the massive influence Darwin had on Nazism
@thomasnaylor2162
@thomasnaylor2162 8 ай бұрын
Darwin, was ahead of his time.!
@ninjaskeleton6140
@ninjaskeleton6140 Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on Winston Churchill’s platypus
@hello-cn5nh
@hello-cn5nh Жыл бұрын
And another video on his essay "Zionism vs Bolshevism"
@SewolHoONCE
@SewolHoONCE Жыл бұрын
Contemporaneous History: After many contacts with the HMS Beagle and Richard Henry Dana (Two Years Before the Mast - Dana Point, California), I chanced to look at a sea chart with both stories in mind. Best I can tell, Darwin and Dana came within 300 miles of each other in the middle of the Pacific Ocean during 1835!?
@GaryHurd
@GaryHurd Жыл бұрын
I have particularly enjoyed the biography of Richard Henry Dana III, "Slavish Shore: The Odyssey of Richard Henry Dana Jr." by Jeffrey L. Amestoy (2025 Harvard University Press). PS: I live in Dana Point, Ca. 😃
@SewolHoONCE
@SewolHoONCE Жыл бұрын
@@GaryHurd My experience of Dana Point: I rode bicycle from Long Beach to Tory Pines right on the beach much of the way. This was long ago; they let me ride across Camp Pendleton on my own.
@BasicDrumming
@BasicDrumming Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you, thank you for making content.
@jb6027
@jb6027 Жыл бұрын
2:00. "Flight Lieutenant" Robert Fitzroy. He was almost 100 years ahead of his time, rank wise. A true pioneer.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Жыл бұрын
Flag Lieutenant.
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 Жыл бұрын
2:35 Parliament and Funkadelic!? The MotherShip !
@goofyiest
@goofyiest Жыл бұрын
Great episode, and I really appreciate the cat cameos!!!
@jeffbangkok
@jeffbangkok Жыл бұрын
Good evening
@jonathanwetherell3609
@jonathanwetherell3609 Жыл бұрын
Those of us in the UK, that have more than a passing interest in maritime weather, know the name "Fitzroy" well. The eastern Atlantic and shores around the UK are divided into meteorological areas, most named geographically but one is named after the Father of Weather Forecasting, Fitzroy.
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 Жыл бұрын
Josiah Wedgewood is another of my unknown heroes.
@garywagner2466
@garywagner2466 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. In that era, scientists often found their calling by accident. It was actually good for the scientific community to have dissenting views, different perspectives, variable “training,” and controversial theories to stimulate debate. I fear we have lost most of that diversity, as universities churn out robots following the established narrative and worrying about political correctness. If they don’t adhere to groupthink, they don’t receive funding, are shunned by their peers, and eventually can be “cancelled” and driven out of academia. It happens all the time in the climate change realm, and is fundamentally wrong. Just as Darwin was subject to virtue signalling from the religious zealots after “On the Origin of Species” was published (you will see many examples in these comments of the same malaise centuries later), science is still adversely affected by narrow mindedness. We are not nearly as “advanced” as we think we are.
@ancientheart2532
@ancientheart2532 Жыл бұрын
My college ecology Prof. described evolution simply and succinctly as nothing more than a change in gene frequency. I think Darwin would approve.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael Жыл бұрын
Darwin would approve, but I don't know how much support that would get. Mathematician Ronald A. Fisher's 1930 book, The Genetical Theory of Natural Selection, is widely considered the founding book of population genetics. Evolution is often something else altogether, else we would still see extinct species being produced by extant ones. As the first line of Fisher's book notes, "Natural Selection is not Evolution." Humans may be the clearest example of one way truly new organisms arise. We are genetically very much like bonobos or chimpanzees, but our chromosome 2 is essentially the head-to-head fusion of chromosomes 12 and 13 (IIRC) of our progenitor, making humans the only Great Ape with 23 pairs of chromosomes instead of 24. Imagine how long a shot there was in production of the first mating pair of humans. What an amazing world!
@Russia-bullies
@Russia-bullies Жыл бұрын
As Darwin did not know “gene” means & evolution=the changing of genes & not of frequencies,disagreed.
@Amy-ky5wr
@Amy-ky5wr Жыл бұрын
1:50 there was a guy named... Pringle Stokes? OMG what we're his parents thinking!
@gordonwallin2368
@gordonwallin2368 Жыл бұрын
That would be Flag Lieutenant (pronounced "left"enant ) Robert Fitzroy, for nonAmericans; he was British. Cheers from the Pacific West coast of Canada.
@J.A.Smith2397
@J.A.Smith2397 Жыл бұрын
Indubitably a great yarn
@HM2SGT
@HM2SGT Жыл бұрын
🐈 *KITTY!* 😻
@armagosa1
@armagosa1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another fascinating slice of history! History deserves to be remembered but if it weren't for Uncle Joe we would be remembering history rather differently it seems. On this occasion, how much of our history as we know it would be changed? What would our world and history look like without Darwin? As a side note and just taking a guess here, but was Puss perhaps getting in the way when you were finishing up this one??? When a cat wants attention, paws and keyboards are bad mix!
@charlesandrews2419
@charlesandrews2419 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a bowtie for your cat?
@flagmichael
@flagmichael Жыл бұрын
Now, _that_ would be an interesting video.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Жыл бұрын
I do- he is not a fan
@DavidHBurkart
@DavidHBurkart Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Hahahah!!
@geraldqueener7861
@geraldqueener7861 Жыл бұрын
I found this video to be funny, enlightening and entertaining as many of the history guys' videos are, but this one gives a look at the society and culture of British science of that time. Unique, complicated and a piece of England's unique contribution to scientific exploration.
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge Жыл бұрын
Fitzroy founded the Met Office in UK. Now an International Strateigic Meterlogical Office. He is also commemerated in the Sea Area Fitzroy off the Western Approaches. He is supposed to have committed suicide in 1865, because his weather forecasts failed to prevent ships sinking. I also live about 5 miles from Downe House.
@ericmason349
@ericmason349 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that was quite a story. Thanx for posting.
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 Жыл бұрын
📣Back in the Saddle Again Naturally!
@mencken8
@mencken8 Жыл бұрын
The idea that the uncertainty of Darwin’s voyage of the Beagle would have some significant impact on the development of the theory of Evolution is problematic, in that it ignores Alfred Russell Wallace’s nearly simultaneous development of the same theory.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Жыл бұрын
Respectfully I disagree, in that Darwin’s social and scientific status was far greater. No idea goes undiscovered forever, but the equation is very different absent Darwin.
@rhuephus
@rhuephus Жыл бұрын
you know cats are like most animals in that they usually understand what you want them to do ... they just choose to ignore you ..
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@robertgiles9124
@robertgiles9124 Жыл бұрын
And yet we have people in our highest Offices now who believe more in that other Boat with all the animals two by two than the science of the Beagle. Go figure. We are just a few steps out of the cave.
@HM2SGT
@HM2SGT Жыл бұрын
The facade of civilization is like theatre paste; a thin & garish veneer.
@Russia-bullies
@Russia-bullies Жыл бұрын
As I belief in good faith & good sci,am I in/out of the cave?😂
@beebop9808
@beebop9808 Жыл бұрын
Have to wonder how Mr. Darwin's thoughts would have differed given he had the knowledge that there have been many extinction level events. It certainly suggests that evolution comes on a much more abbreviated time line than believed.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Жыл бұрын
Purportedly, Darwin formulated the “survival of the fittest” theory after reading Thomas Malthus, so that suggests he had an idea of extinction events. In fact, such events might theoretically speed the evolutionary process. But part of the genesis of his theories came to him while studying geology during the voyage of the Beagle. He cane to understand, looking at geological processes, how old the earth was, and how large the time frame was for natural history to develop.
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 Жыл бұрын
But we needed Father Mendel to give us the mechanism. Science is the ultimate co-operative endeavour.
@beebop9808
@beebop9808 Жыл бұрын
Yes I've read some papers that suggest manipulation or mutation of DNA from external forces beyond selection. It's all so fascinating!
@lachbullen8014
@lachbullen8014 Жыл бұрын
Did you know that the city of Darwin Northern Australia is actually named after Charles Darwin..
@TheUglyGnome
@TheUglyGnome Жыл бұрын
Yes, I did.
@psychotropicalresearch5653
@psychotropicalresearch5653 2 ай бұрын
It might also be noted that Fitzroy had good reason to fear mental illness, because his uncle, Lord Castlereagh, the foreign secretary, had committed suicide. It’s probable that Fitzroy had bipolar disorder, and that may have been a factor enabling him to bulldoze everyone into supporting his scheme to put light ships around the coast of the UK. So it is ironic. Fitzroy was completely correct to entertain the fears that he did, even if he didn’t understand the correct reason for how right he was. The moving story of Lord Castle raise suicide is recounted in a letter from the guest at the house that is in the penguin book of political anecdotes, edited by Paul Johnson.
@trevinbeattie4888
@trevinbeattie4888 Жыл бұрын
It makes me wonder how many other potential scientific endeavors which may have had a world-wide impact did not actually happen.
@orglancs
@orglancs Жыл бұрын
Or got buried under the sands of history or laughed off the stage, because they clashed with the prevailing dogmas of the day, as happens now.
@elwoodzo
@elwoodzo Жыл бұрын
Cat!
@GaryHurd
@GaryHurd Жыл бұрын
Charles Darwin's father, Robert, was disgusted that Charles had left medicine. If Charles refused to be "useful" then he should enter the clergy. His disappointed father sent him to Cambridge to prepare for the clergy. There is an interesting passage in Darwin's Autobiography (written originally just to his family) where he also discussed his study of the famous precursor to today's creationists, William Paley. "In order to pass the B.A. examination, it was, also, necessary to get up Paley's Evidences of Christianity, & his Moral Philosophy. This was done in a thorough manner, & I am convinced that I could have written out the whole of the "Evidences" with perfect correctness, but not of course in the clear language of Paley. The logic of this book & as I may add of his "Natural Theology" gave me as much delight as did Euclid. The careful study of these works, without attempting to learn any part by rote, was the only part of the Academical Course which, as I then felt & as I still believe, was of the least use to me in the education of my mind. I did not at that time trouble myself about Paley's premises; & taking these on trust I was charmed & convinced by the long line of argumentation." This is quite significant as the HMS Beagle Captain Robert FitzRoy was also committed to the Christian viewpoint they held in common. While at Cambridge University Darwin became closely acquainted with the Revd John Stevens Henslow, Professor of Botany, and the Revds Adam Sedgwick and William Whewell, respectively professors of geology and mineralogy. These men totally changed young Darwin’s early resolution to avoid geological science. Whewell sought to reform the practice of science into a more formal profession. In fact, he was the man who coined the word “scientist.” Sedgwick and Henslow both lead field trips that Darwin attended. Fieldwork is still today much superior to lectures for learning geology and what we would call ecology. The famous voyage around the world Darwin took from 1831 to 1836 was through the recommendation of Henslow. It was Sedgwick who sent Darwin off on the HMS Beagle with a copy of Charles Lyell’s Principles of Geology, which Darwin said, “Allowed me to see with the eyes of Hutton.”
@josephsoper9036
@josephsoper9036 Жыл бұрын
Now for the follow up... the Darwin awards...
@TM-ev2tc
@TM-ev2tc Жыл бұрын
The pirates in an adventure with scientists You should try to watch this movie. I think that's the name of the movie.
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 Жыл бұрын
:58 Like a Frigate?
@RetiredSailor60
@RetiredSailor60 Жыл бұрын
That would be a good comparison. A retired Navy Sailor here
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 Жыл бұрын
@@RetiredSailor60 Thank you for your service Youngling !👍
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 Жыл бұрын
Hey Playboy ,🤓👋 would you have gone on the Beagle if given the opportunity?
@flagmichael
@flagmichael Жыл бұрын
Speaking for myself, no way! Imagine setting sail to such distant places, unsure of winds and weather, trusting food supplies would be adequate.... I wonder how many women would marry a sailor in those days. Your husband sets sail and can't say when or if they will be back. No wonder the Brits say, "worse things happen at sea."
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 Жыл бұрын
@@flagmichael Just imagine they will be sending mail home and receiving mail from home. Going places where there's no post offices nor airmail! But I could see the History Guy 🤓 with his knickers and Scryning bowl 🥣 like Nostrildamas !
@emmitstewart1921
@emmitstewart1921 Жыл бұрын
Darwin certainly didn't act that irresponsible during the trip. He took so many specimens and preserved them so well that it took the rest of his life to classify and catalog them all. The collection is now housed at the Oxford University Museum. I remember reading his Journal, Voyage Of The Beagle in high school and found it just as fascinating today as it was when it was written.
@SewolHoONCE
@SewolHoONCE Жыл бұрын
¿Do I remember correctly that a writing desk in a museum was on display for many years. Recently, when an inventory was take, someone opened the drawer and found a collection of microscope slides prepared by Charles Darwin, himself?
@cee8mee
@cee8mee Жыл бұрын
No pirates?
@Russia-bullies
@Russia-bullies Жыл бұрын
FYI.After watching lots of wildlife documentaries on the Galapagos,a place Darwin explored,I recommend a visit to its wildlife/watching Galapagos wildlife documentaries,especially to evolution deniers.
@catjudo1
@catjudo1 Жыл бұрын
Is the History Cat's name Darwin? I had a cat I named Darwin years ago. Big black longhair and very laid back. I miss him.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel Жыл бұрын
Lol no. His name is Pocky.
@elgatofelix8917
@elgatofelix8917 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel nice! Like Pocky from Pocky and Rocky!
@troyconnors374
@troyconnors374 Жыл бұрын
Sir, would you please make a video on the story of the break out of a Nevada prison that lead to the incident responsible for naming Convict Lake in CA. fascinating story.
@chrismccartney8668
@chrismccartney8668 Жыл бұрын
I have been where the remains of the Beagle sit in mud on the Essex Creek, when Beagle was finished she was moored in the area as Coast watch ship to deter smuggling for many years and then when so rotten was sold for breaking for the metals etc but deep In the mud is her remains not burn as wet and rotten as normally you burn the wood to extract Copper brass lead steel and ships all valuable stuff. The site just nearby a small boat yard and such a quiet isolated place is perhaps right for the beagle to slumber.. I believe the boat yard has said to visitor who come to see the beagle there she is pointing to an empty Creek a huge anchor and viewvas far as you can see is sea Marsh and Creek...... But in the deep essex mud lies and artefact that changed how we view the world...
@orglancs
@orglancs Жыл бұрын
A few years ago there were stirrings of a campaign to collect funds and raise what was left of The Beagle. You could sign up on line for further information, but I haven't heard a squeak out of them since, so I presume the plans or hopes have fallen through.
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 Жыл бұрын
@2:00 *First* Lieutenant Robert FitzRoy, I'm thinking 🤔.
@lizj5740
@lizj5740 Жыл бұрын
*Flag Lieutenant
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 Жыл бұрын
@@lizj5740 Ah, thank you.
@lizj5740
@lizj5740 Жыл бұрын
@@jaex9617 You're welcome.
@joew4295
@joew4295 Жыл бұрын
Five years...umm...It's five year mission, to explore strange new worlds and seek out new life and new civilizations-to boldly go where no naturalist has gone before. Is that where Gene Roddenberry got the Five Year idea? The face and especially the eyes from the last portrait at the end of this video of young Darwin looks eerily too real, like he's really looking at you from behind the screen. I like cats too.
@Russia-bullies
@Russia-bullies Жыл бұрын
I loved the Star Trek series,except Deep Space Nine.😁
@timengineman2nd714
@timengineman2nd714 Жыл бұрын
I think you meant First Lt. not Flight Lt.!!!
@williamhsmith4019
@williamhsmith4019 Жыл бұрын
can anyone recomend a book about Fitzroy?
@lizj5740
@lizj5740 Жыл бұрын
I haven't read this book, but Goodreads rates it 4+ stars: FitzRoy: The Remarkable Story of Darwin's Captain and the Invention of the Weather Forecast by John and Mary Gribbin.
@williamhsmith4019
@williamhsmith4019 Жыл бұрын
@@lizj5740 thank you! I'll get on it!
@lizj5740
@lizj5740 Жыл бұрын
@@williamhsmith4019 You're welcome. I hope it is truly a "good read".
@ambercrombie789
@ambercrombie789 Жыл бұрын
Anyone read "The Dark Side of Charles Darwin" by Jerry Bergman? Comments?
@alanmoffat4454
@alanmoffat4454 Жыл бұрын
WHAT EVEN IN SOME CLOSED CHURCHES , EVEN TODAY THATS A LONG EXPERIENCE.
@ashergoney
@ashergoney Жыл бұрын
Screenshot (15 Feb 2023 00:48:03)// Revalations Sent Back To Genisis By Exodus
@Otisthelesser
@Otisthelesser Жыл бұрын
All good History Guy episodes end with cats.
@blanelightfoote8943
@blanelightfoote8943 Жыл бұрын
I hate to be an upstater but it's pronounced kayuga hard k. All the native names we have here are confusing to say the least . Canandaigua..
@elfpimp1
@elfpimp1 Жыл бұрын
What? Nothing about hus short stint with pirates a dodo and strange obsession with Queen Victoria??? 😬
@flagmichael
@flagmichael Жыл бұрын
Only on Ham Night.
@sirmeowthelibrarycat
@sirmeowthelibrarycat Жыл бұрын
🤔 The royal connection you mention is from the ‘wrong’ side of the blanket. That is, the illegitimate branch of royalty. Naming someone ‘Fitzroy’ or ‘Fitzpatrick’ indicates that status. Much found during the 18th and early 19th centuries as princes and kings dallied with ladies with ‘flexible’ morality.
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