“Almost nothing went Wrong…” RV-14 Wing Tip installation! - Build VLOG #7
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4 жыл бұрынIn the “Build Zone” now, somewhat knowing what I’m doing! :)
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In this “Airplane Build Vlog” episode of Flight Chops: We work through a lot of steps and fix bit of a mistake while getting the Wing Tips installed!
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@danniendorff4815 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see such rapid progress and a great into to building the RV-14. I'm building an RV-14A myself, and love your content. If some of your viewers would like to see a more detailed look at building this airplane, the have a look at Andrew Kilroy's RV-14 build channel. He has video of every step of the build..... It's quite impressive kzfaq.infoplaylists
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s awesome - congrats on your 14A, and apparently I stand corrected about it being impossible to to cover the entire process :). I will definitely have a look at Andrew’s series!
@ninus17 4 жыл бұрын
i would love to see a video series on the lancaster restoration.
@planesfreek 4 жыл бұрын
Check out the Facebook group: Lancaster FM212 Restoration - Canadian Historical Aircraft Association. They post updates on the restoration on a weekly basis.
@TheFinerPoints 4 жыл бұрын
That was fun. The Lancaster bit was pretty awesome too. The camera angles you’re getting on those build shots are just awesome. I’m not building a plane but with close ups like that ... this is probably a very legit resource for someone who is 👍 well done.
@azscotts 4 жыл бұрын
Yo, Chops. I used my squeezer both ways the entire process. There isn't a better way than what you did. You want the dies perpendicular to your manufactured head. Which end of the squeezer that is doing it, isn't much of a concern. It was all about technique and comfort to me. RV-7A, N254AZ, 270ish hours flying.
@4stringmanagmaildcom 4 жыл бұрын
Nut plates. You did fine. In 1978 I was building the wing to body fairing on the 747 which has hundreds of nut plates. However you get them squeezed is fair game as long as the counter sunk head remains flush and you squeeze them enough, but not too much. Too much can be an issue because the driven head can work harden and fracture which can shorten the installations life. I did 22 years at Boeing. Only 1 as a mechanic.
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool to here these insights! The 747 is a legend - amazing that you got to work on them.
@4stringmanagmaildcom 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlightChops Thank you. I was working on line number 350 or so. One of the "old guys" on our crew, a fellow about my current age, had helped build B-17s. At the lunch table he would tell us all about it. Mostly how simplified the design was. All wing stringers were the same, almost all anyway, and only a few fastener types. One or two rivet aprons he said and you could work on the whole plane. I enjoy your channel. Keep up the good work!
@richarddarlington1139 4 жыл бұрын
Me, during one of my builds, " I've cut it twice, and it's still too short. What the hell?" And yes, god bless Dremel!
@peterpengilly1202 4 жыл бұрын
Tungsten bucking bar? One of the best tools I ever bought. Much smaller than steel and bounces much less - means you don't have to hang on to it nearly as much. Makes riveting much easier.
@SimonAmazingClarke 4 жыл бұрын
Riveting is definitely a learned skill. You seem to be doing eell. In my RAF training we made go/no go gauges. This was a piece of scrap aluminium with a hole at both ends. A correctly formed rived tail expands as it is riveted. Calculate the diameter of a correctly formed tail, and one that has been over formed, these are your hole sizes. Then it is easy to feel if the gauge goes on or not instead of trying to look at a gap. Keep up the great work.
@equaltothetaskaviation6440 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, she's comming along nicely. my grandfather flew Stirlings & lancasters with 149sqn in ww2 so I sincerly wish the project team god speed with her restoration. years ago I got to sit next to G for george lancaster at the australian war memorial and it baught me to tears - anyway great to see another vlog and i'm sure you can't wait to strap on your new man toy (RV-14) best of luck going forward
@DirkLarien 4 жыл бұрын
Your riveting is gloriously pretty work. I can confirm that some commercial manufacturers don't go nowhere near such level of precision like you do.
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
The guys I'm working with are awesome!
@rocketplane8862 4 жыл бұрын
It's cool to see it coming along, and also the bit on the Lanc was awesome. I really also want to hear the story behind the Mosquito if you can toss it in some time!
@PlaneLady 4 жыл бұрын
We’ve had lots of places where we’ve had to use the pneumatic squeezer “backwards”...but it works 😜 just have to be a bit more careful to make sure it’s all lined up square and flush as the ram extends. Looks good! And it’s nice to see you share your mistakes and how y’all fix them 😊 great video
@SmittySmithsonite 4 жыл бұрын
That thing is looking SWEET! She's going to be a beauty once finished. Bet she'll fly as great as she looks, too. Great to see the guys making big progress on the Lancaster, too. Great stuff, Steve! THANKS! 👍🍻
@brianpetrow7218 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to do something on this RV...and gaze upon the Lancaster...very cool!
@AlwaysStaringSkyward 4 жыл бұрын
Those trick Numatx squeezers would get in there. Not cheap though!
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 жыл бұрын
THIS THING IS GONNA BE SO AWESOME!!! Can’t wait to see you fly it! I want to build an experimental one day and I’m sure these lessons will help!
@osidebentley2195 4 жыл бұрын
Captain Charlie Bravo RV’s ARE awesome. We have a few guys locally that have them. Zippy as hell!
@beyondcare4178 4 жыл бұрын
What do you want to build?
@flyforfreedom9979 4 жыл бұрын
I bet he’s gonna love it. All that hard work is going to pay off!
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 жыл бұрын
Oside Bentley I haven’t flown one yet. But they sound awesome!
@CaptainCharlieBravo 4 жыл бұрын
Beyond Care I’m wanting to do some back country flying so probably a Kitfox or Carbon Cub.
@billbrisson9927 4 жыл бұрын
looking good Steve, and ya, in your spare time, how about a VLOG on the Lancaster restoration ;) Just kidding, we know you're swamped!
@stephenrobinson8250 4 жыл бұрын
I continue to enjoy your VLOG. I am looking forward to seeing your first IFR flight now that you have your rating.
@pssryan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update! The long hours and time taken for perfection will pay off in the end!
@av8or971 3 жыл бұрын
placement of the squeezer.. sometimes you just do what you can, and just make sure you follow the collapsing, so that it does not push the rivet back out the countersunk side.. if it does a little, you can use a microshaver, to shave a little off the top of the head of the rivet, but that also lessens the amount of bite on the countersunk edge in the countersunk hole.
@thomasaltruda 4 жыл бұрын
Using the squeezer backwards is fine. You should look into using the “oops” rivet kit. They contain NAS rivets with a small head which doesn’t require such large countersinking.. just a tiny countersink and they are flush. Perfect for nut plates! As for the pulled rivets on the back of the tips, why not use the CS4 countersunk rivets that Van’s has?
@natewarren1828 4 жыл бұрын
Great job!! Cant wait to see it fly!
@sebastiansund2949 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a lot of fun, good job!
@Michael-he7xn 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Chops!
@jpwhite8377 4 жыл бұрын
Another interesting video. Thanks for posting!
@mytech6779 4 жыл бұрын
That guy in the tail reminded me that Boeing used to hire little people for that type of work back around WW2.
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Yup - I heard that too - makes sense :P
@ModelAV8RChannel 4 жыл бұрын
You have an uncharacteristically large team working with you and it seems you folks are making an uncharacteristically huge amount of progress without really "hurrying". At this point...what would you say your time line might be? It certainly seems like its going much faster than I (and I think maybe you) thought it would be. I think by Oshkosh you may be close to finished at this rate. Wondering if you have a specific event in mind for the unveiling? Do you have a test pilot in mind? Elliot? Whenever its done...I look forward to seeing you fly it!
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - yeah - it is going faster than any of us thought - The team is awesome and committed no doubt, but a huge part of it is that the kit for the RV-14 is so refined and well thought out - a lot of the guys have past building experience (RV-7, etc), and they are consistently commenting on how elegant this kit really is. Elliot is definitely going to be a part of designing the test flight program, and telling that story. That said, we won't be ready for Osh 2020... But 2021...? I'd day most likely, yes :)
@michaelcoffin4364 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody said you can't use a squeezer "backwards". As for those pull style rivets in the tight area. Those could have been shot. A few common tools to get in there are cold chisels, screwdrivers. If you have a scrap yard or metal supply local. A small cut off piece of chunk steel from the scrap bin can be had free or for pennies. Then cut and sand it to the desired shape. You would be amazed how many times you will reuse that bar on other projects. Heak, we even use old aluminum forged parts to make low use bars sometimes. If we only need it for a couple rivets. It's easier to cut and shape the aluminum, then chuck it.
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insights - We have a zillion bucking bars, but I hadn't thought of making even smaller ones with modified tools
@michaelcoffin4364 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlightChops we aren't supposed to(dang fed job) but to do a proper job we have to because nobody else makes them. If you can get ahold of small tingston chunks. They work 100x better than steel. This greatly reduces the impact on your fingers with small bars.
@robbieguldi602 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to watch...unfortunately I have class all morning 😢
@GaryMCurran 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Lanc project is going to be awesome once it gets finished. Same for the Mosquito. BUT, I'm a bit disappointed in you, Steve. You couldn't have found a local farrier who could use their horseshoe expertise to make you a custom bucking bar for the inside of the wing panel? LOL! I AM trying to be funny, but it also would have been cool if you had found someone who could have done that for you. This is going to be one of the fastest RV-14s ever built, the way you guys are going on it.
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary! We're not setting the record, but we're definitely not going slow either :)
@maillouski 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool to see a build being done. It really makes me want to do the same thing. I hope I will be able to get some people with experience ! When is the first flight planned ? Next year ?
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Aiming to be flying early 2021, yes!
@flyingkub 4 жыл бұрын
The use of the squeezer that way round is no problem. We have a Lancaster being rebuilt not too far away from me at the moment they are making it airworthy, I hope to fly over and do a video when the weather gets good enough. In the summer they have it out and taxi it to raise money, which people can pay for ride in. Here is a link to the restoration videos kzfaq.info/love/2khBKyvqN_J6IxxvxT-DdAvideos
@AnthonyPuca 4 жыл бұрын
Nice progress! I'm wrapping up the horizontal Stab on my RV-10 now. Been following you for a couple of years. Wonder if COVID has helped or hurt the progress.
@mojogrip 4 жыл бұрын
Filming and building don't always go hand in hand. Will you have this done by Oshkosh?
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
We're aiming to be flying early 2021, and will get to Osh that year! How's yours going?
@mojogrip 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! working on some panel stuff this week. We're aiming for Osh this year.
@AnthraciteJZA80 4 жыл бұрын
I would love for you and mike patey to meet up and talk airplane building!!!!!
@TheCanadianBubba 4 жыл бұрын
It's like eating an elephant... one bite at a time
@clinty51 4 жыл бұрын
Nice creativity with the camera mount...but wouldn't a GoPro on a Chesty mount be a less intrusive recording tool?...Looks like you were looking around you camera to get a good view of your task...loving the content regardless
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - and in many cases, yes a GoPro on a Chesty would do, but for this one I was trying to show tiny details which required the longer lens and super crisp focus - fixed wide lenses on GoPros can't do that.
@clinty51 4 жыл бұрын
Tiny details achieved :) commitment to detail as always Steve, great work. Really loving the build.
@_Stark 4 жыл бұрын
Added note, I hope you ensured the wingtips were aligned with the ailerons. If not you'll have to split and glass or other wise adjust post rigging.
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Right yes - that is why you see me test fitting right at the start of the video
@_Stark 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlightChops I did the same thing with them on the stands and the initial rigging set. However once I flew the plane had a very heavy left wing and had to make several adjustments to the rigging to take it out. The last thing I did was reglass that wing tip. All worked out in the end but wasn't the most fun part of Phase I flying.
@richarddarlington1139 4 жыл бұрын
@@_Stark We model builders check lateral balance before covering.. Then we add weight to the light tip. Trimming for a heavy tip is a non-starter. Everything must be "zeroed out."
@stusaircraftfactory6592 4 жыл бұрын
Not only the ailerons but wingtips shouldn't be installed until wings are on the plane. This is the main cause of heavy wing after flight. Process is mount and drill wings, align flaps, align ailerons and wing tips very last. High chance you'll need to cut trailing edge to get it to align with aileron. Are these wing tip pre drilled in 14 kit? Orientation of pneumatic squeezer is fine - there is no 'backwards way' of using it - its just a squeezer. Also some of the flush nutplates rivets are sitting bit proud. When countersinking you want to just see a sliver of raw fiberglass around the edge.
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Justin Wylie - thanks Justin - I am curious to understand more about the issue you encountered, and how you solved it. I’ll talk to Dave about this (he’ll be the flight test pilot) and report back here with more specific questions
@craigcourtney8426 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chops!! Just curious but are you worried about not being able to fly across the border in an experimental? I may be wrong on this but I was under the impression that an experimental cant be flown from US into Canada and Vice Versa.
@ForFunFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Steve! 👌🏻 If you would quantify the build progress, at which % do you think you are right now?
@thehoeser 4 жыл бұрын
90% done, 90% to go.
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Somewhere between 1% and 99% ;P. But in all seriousness, will be at the hangar tomorrow and will talk to the guys to see what they think... my guess is we’re ~60% done?
@ForFunFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlightChops Ah, so more than half is done? Awesome! 👍🏻 Great build process series, love it! Can't wait to see the avionics getting installed and dialed in, since I'm a huge fan of those type of systems! But you might've guessed that already, by watching my own vlogs on that subject? 😉 Anyway, keep up the good work! 👌🏻
@ForFunFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
@@thehoeser Haha, very familiar! That's close to what I always said to people that asked me about the progress of my own plane modernization project 😋
@MichaelSteeves 4 жыл бұрын
@@thehoeser "the first 90% of the build takes 90% of the time. The last 10% takes the remaining 90% of the time."
@DanSmithBK 4 жыл бұрын
Just curios Steve - why not just leave the duff hole where it was - what benefit is there in opening it out like that?
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
The thin bit would be prone to cracking, and then the crack could spread and compromise the whole part
@DanSmithBK 4 жыл бұрын
FlightChops cool - thanks!
@hfirm9897 4 жыл бұрын
Use a hand squeezer, a little more room to work.
@goatflieg 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't use an abrasive fiberglass countersink bit, as fiberglass chews the heck out of metal bits. I got mine from Lancair, believe it or not. I label any standard drill bit I use on fiberglass, because I know they're dulled and don't want to use them on metal. Still have my wingtips to go; thinking about maybe going the hinge route... seen that done very nicely. Currently bogged down in custom fiberglass work for my "special" snorkel induction. Anything "off plans" slows things down tremendously. Glad you showed some Lancaster work. I might volunteer for some metalwork at CH2A and YAM when my RV-8 is flying. I'll be there Saturday to do some flying with Andrei; maybe I'll do some work on the RV-14 too.
@chipflaming 3 жыл бұрын
The hinge route for attaching wingtips is documented at www.rv14a.com/uploads/2/3/6/7/23674510/_export_sites_kitplanes_02_data_media_pdfs_attaching_wingtips.pdf and www.rv14a.com/wing-tips---sec-24.html. I'm thinking about going that way too.
@agentb5888 4 жыл бұрын
You look like the old guy from the lorax
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks?
@blueboats7530 4 жыл бұрын
Oh that hurts, making the mistake the INSTRUCTIONS specifically warned about, I know that one . . .
@Randy_Cox Жыл бұрын
Dude this build is like the definition of insanity. 20,000 rivets and your gonna measure and check each on...uugggg. I 100% do not have the mental anal retintivness to build one of these planes like this. Cool to watch you guys do it and I am sure the plane is going to be amazing when done.
@FlightChops Жыл бұрын
Haha - I just saw your other comment from a few hours before this one on the video where we're finishing out the test flying and the exhaust sounds awesome - so yeah - it turned out amazing :P. But honestly, after doing a few hundred rivets, you don't need to measure every one - you start to get into a zone where you know if it is a good rivet or not by eye-balling it.
@Randy_Cox Жыл бұрын
@@FlightChops ya after seeing how cool it turned out I had to see what it took to build the beast and watching the series now. I knew it would be a lot of work, but I had no idea. The only other plane builds I have watched are Kitfox planes and without metal skin they are wayyyyyyyy more simple.
@FlightChops Жыл бұрын
Sure there are lots of simpler planes out there... but the extra work is worth the outcome - there's a reason the Van's Aircraft slogan is: "Total Performance!" Now that it is painted, this airplane looks and flys like a million bucks. Literally. The RV-14 set up the way we've got it, outperforms many certified aircraft that cost $1M+ new.
@seinfeld11123 4 жыл бұрын
no winglets on the end? more lift, better fuel economy, more range...... should ask mike patey to make you some. he loves doing stuff with carbon fiber he work 36 hours a day. im sure hed love to help
@jginmt 4 жыл бұрын
Is your paint scheme going to be yellow?
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
That's the plan, yes!
@alexenns3203 4 жыл бұрын
Is the Lancaster gonna fly again?
@Lobsta01 4 жыл бұрын
Alright my loyal comments section knights...I need your help. I’m ready to pull the trigger on a kitfox S7 Sti...problem is I don’t know a damn thing about building a plane. I see a lot of you here commenting are very experienced builders...perhaps we could form a partnership. My starting offer is $10k, half up front half when we finish. I don’t know where to start looking for a good build team like this.
@JustPlaneSilly 4 жыл бұрын
First
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Second!
@aserta 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think is simple when it involves building an airplane. Ultimately, you're involved in being responsible for someone's life, yours, another's, doesn't matter, it's just not simple.
@Jake-mg8rk 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t think your viewers wouldn’t care if u used a GoPro and have a lower video quality for the build. Make your life easier
@FlightChops 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks yeah - No doubt GoPros have been a big part of producing this content; However, there are times a good lens that allows for super close and sharp focus is required - a lot of this episode needed that camera and lens for it to work.
@oklachinoo1881 4 жыл бұрын
what’s up boys n grils?😋
@owensparks5013 4 жыл бұрын
Various things 😉
@acengineer737 4 жыл бұрын
Good job I’m not your inspector. You’d be buying or making a new rib
@FlyVansAircraft 4 жыл бұрын
Van's engineers reviewed the specific situation with the rib in the video, and determined the fix was appropriate and acceptable in that part location and context. When building an experimental airplane, it's not unusual to have to work out acceptable means of dealing with the unexpected. In this case the method used is acceptable and safe.
@PlaneLady 4 жыл бұрын
Van's Aircraft thanks for chiming in! Really great to hear this feedback direct from y’all about the problem and solution. Your builder support team has always been very helpful whenever I’ve called with a question and I really appreciate that 😊
@acengineer737 4 жыл бұрын
Vans Aircraft as you know not everyone operates under the US experimental system. In some countries you are required to have your aircraft inspected through out its build by an inspector or an engineer. That inspector is taking legal responsibility for the airworthiness of that aircraft. The inspector should be applying best practices using standard aeronautical processes. Like maintaining correct edge distance and reducing stress risers. My opinion that certainly isn’t a “fix”. That Rib will crack between the holes at some point, I have no doubt about that. Now you could argue that the results of that Rib failing are negligible and if it does the results will be negligible also. But with aviation aren’t we trained to think ahead, reduce and not take any undue risks. So now your Rib does fail and it begins to migrate out of the wingtip fairing and fouls your Aileron and you lose roll control. What would be the results of that? Can you categorically say the above scenario could never arise? Well you could if you replaced the Rib.
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