A few mates own them, 250 and 300, they are all ex pro MX riders, not one has spent a dollar on suspension, apart from setting them up and changing oil!!! Suspension shops just lost heaps of customers with this bike ! KTM have done a brilliant job, i cant wait to see the EXC next year @

Frame is super stiff but that’s what makes it handle like a razor blade. I think the chassis tends to get overshadowed by the new TBI. Personally the chassis is my favorite part. Suspension is as good as it gets for stock but it definitely could use a little tuning. I felt it was amazing at speed but it’s a little harsh on the square edged type stuff.

Out of all the bikes I owned only 1 that I bought pre owned for MX was 100 percent dialed in perfect (race tech), I admit it makes a world of difference. But if you can’t just revalve/respring to your weight, set the sag and send it you’re a Weiner. The dudes that push Gucci parts for everything are the most miserable to ride with. Great review and hope to get a 300 in the future 🤞

I got "lost" watching this. Loved the quality of the video. Great sound. The dirt looks amazing. The color richness of the green and brown. Well done. I need to ride there.

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 - First off let me just say thanks Mate! Nice review, nice trails, and nice riding. Anyone can see this bike is nimble AF. If you watch the riding, this man here is pointing the bike where he wants to go and it’s going there. He’s choosing some slim lines and executing.

So much rider skill! Takes a lot of skill to be hitting single track like that in those speeds! Very nice bro. -18 KTM500

be mine tomorrow morning!! 250 xc 2023 ! :) thx for your vids buddy you make me buy this bike!! 🤩🤩

just got a 2023 tc250 i'm building for offroad. Out of the box, the suspension was actually pretty good even for the trails. I had a Spring cartridge laying around so I dropped it in at 8 hours; If I didn't have it laying around, I would still be content with the air fork setup. Good review, great riding!

wow what a beautiful forest trail your on here - KTM unrideable that doesn't sound right - my buddy just got the 2023 300 mx what an awesome bike - great video bro

The best thing about two strokes is that they're simple TBI changes that i don't like sensors and computers running my bike, when I'm 25 miles from my truck nothing can break. If that makes me old school so be it.

I have a 23 300 with 13 hours on it, and it gets better and better. it's an Incredible bike engine, chassis all of its totally rideable stock. although, like any bike suspension work is king. getting dialed in with spring rates and valving. this will always bring a bike to next level. 👍

Thanks for the review! Your always a straight shooter and value your opinion. May hold back in getting the suspension done on my new tx300 till I get a chance to ride it.

Great video, thank you! Looking forward to getting a TBI of my own. Keep it up!

Totally agree with you! I feel like the suspension is really good! and I also like the new transmission, I love my 2023 ktm 250 xc!

Been waiting for an honest review of KTM's TBI bikes, thanks for the video and straight up opinion. I'm keen to purchase a TBI bike in the near future but theres a few persistent callouts of these bikes destroying their own top ends...yet to see if it's a genuine issue or just isolated cases.

Awesome trail. Great footage and riding as well

Those are some nicely worn in trails! A good mix of flow and go but also stuff to keep you involved. Nice camera work too! Cheers from northeastern Ontario Canada.

My 19 350sxf is my first bike with air forks. Best suspension I’ve ever had from factory, even compared to my 2011 350 suspension when I rode for RMR way back in 2011/2012. At 40hrs I had Rod rebuild it, revalve it and respiring the rear for my weight (165lbs with gear on) for the track and not only is it more plush but the bottoming resistance is actually there. I can run it no problem up at vedder as well:

I like your opinion, beautiful ride, and those Astra handlebars are the best option for improvement with handling. I bought three Astra handlebars, one for my Husqie (TPI), my Beta, and Yamie.

There is a huge disconnect between "casual trail riders" and "trail racers". Trail riders ride at very slow speeds and the way a bike handles means far less because it is never pushed to its limits. Trail racers are hauling the mail, bouncing off rocks and using the full travel of the suspension. A bike that one guy likes won't be worth crap to the other guy. Reliability and serviceability means more than anything else. Everything else can be modified.

I rode a 2023 300xc with only mod being a racetech spring conversion on the fork and thought it was amazing.

I still ride the last edition of the carburated 300EXC, it is plenty fast and the suspension after a revalve fork is plenty good for national level enduros. I say this after having ridden KTMs when they were branded Pentons. 125, 175, 250, and 300EXCs, all excellent machines. Living in Colorado, I have ridden my 250EXC and 300 EXC from 5Kfeet to 12K feet of altitude with minimal jetting changes.

Keep up the honest reviews!!! Great Video

I have been riding 2 stroke for almost 20 years, was looking at stepping over to the 4 stroke that is until I checked out the ktm xc line, think I found my new home. just can't decide 300 or 250!! first world problems.

Really hope they put the TBI in the XCW next year. Curious about the suspension on XCW next year as well.

Greg, it's so refreshing to have your voice and your channel to go to when looking for practical, real world information on a bike. One major factor is the type of rider you are compared, to say, Jeff Slavens. Jeff's much older and he's traditionally been a guy that wants the easiest most plush ride available no matter the cost. He's a Rekluse guy and often has upwards of $5k into his suspension packages. Of course, he also has a financial component is a big factor for Jeff as well. Great job Greg and keep up the great work!

Great video! Thanks for sharing it.

Slavens is the only person trash talking the suspension it seems.

Man those trails are sick!

Great video as always. Nice to hear a bunch of positives. I'm still waiting on my 23 soon I hope 🤞

That sound reminds me of my ‘77 PE 250 it had a flywheel instead of a rotor,fun days

Nice vid! Thanks for the insight.

Not having a kickstarter on a bike made for the woods is absolutely insane to me.

In the last 4 or 5 years KTM suspension has come out of the box with very very tight tolerances. So to do a far eval you need 10 hours on them before you can make a fair eval. My guess is Greg is riding a bike with a few hours on it, and so is getting a real look at how this thing works.

That place is straight from jurassic park!

that trail is so awesome..good for you..cool video

Most of the other guys that say its too not stiff or unridable revalve the suspension pretty soon. (Like highland cycles)…My 22 xc tpi was pretty harsh and i just couldnt get the air forks to do what i wanted. Now After i did a spring conversion its a totally different bike.

These bikes are the absolute best, period! Not just best KTM...

I love my sherco but I find myself really wanting a 2024 XC W TBI 😂 Seems like it’ll be the best bits of ktm build quality and refinement combined with the power delivery of my sherco 300 🤞

This makes me miss the Tillamook Forest. I was thinking about a new TBI bike this year. I'm a 6' 2" and 235-245 pounds. I like the tight technial stuff... just like this video. I want that light 'mountain bike' feel. I dont care a whole lot about top end. Do you think a 250 would be too small for a guy my weight?.... I have never ridden one... Great videos.

I've been holding off because I never buy a first year release. I have my eye on a TX 300 Heritage. They are saying 10 hours to break the chassis in and it's way to stiff. Seems you have a different take. It's hard to decide, because you can't test drive these things. I'm 52 and leaving MX racing and starting trail riding and haven't bought a bike for it yet. My son is leaving MX as well and is going to do this with me. He wants the 300XC. Almost ready to do it. I was told to wait until February because there are going to be some incentives due to slow bike sales. Guess we'll see.

Sounds like a good bike! I guess KTM finally got it dialed in. I bet the average rider is closer to 200-230lbs in gear. I felt my '22 Gas Gas EC300 was too soft stock, so I added springs and Suspension 101 Gobbler valves. This made a huge improvement and got the bike where I needed it. I also had my ECU reflashed by TPI Tuning and it improved the throttle response. I was impressed by the Pick-A-Part section at the end! Take a fender, leave a fender? You could almost build a bike out those parts. :)

This video just saved me $1k on suspension upgrades I probably don't really need.

Game changer. 😉

What a great trail !

cool Vid,,now i want one lol,, but im still enjoying my 2020 ktm 250xcw..

I have a 2019 CXW TPI with a GET ECU tuned for the PNW gnar by Slavins and an FMF Gnarly pipe running the red spring. No throttle delay that I can find. 🤣

The throttle is instant and it's always there when you need it, unlike the kick starter. j/k

I'm about to release my review video as well. It is not stiff at all, agreed !

**"" I think these are the best two strokes KTM has ever produced."" OR is it " best two strokes ever produced?? Cheers for the vid

Man I gotta get up that way some time 😍

If my gas gas ec300 ran like this. I'd still have it!

That new transmission has to be amazing. My '22 TX is awesome except for the top of 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd, where it feels like constantly chasing the "perfect gear" for real-world conditions.

Out of the 250 xc and 300 Xc, what do you like and don’t like of the 2

How close does it feel to Sherco or any carb bike? Also any difference you noticed in 250 from 300 in technical stuff?

I love that plastic graveyard at 5:25 🤣🤣

I did not know they had trails in Middle Earth? 😏 Beautiful riding area by the way 👍

Great video, fantastic riding made it look easy!

I just got the 2023 husqvarna tx 300 and love it also it is amazing 👏

those trails wow🤩

It’s definitely stiff but not what people say I just bought a 23 250 xc off the floor I prefer it stiff being I’m 185 pounds I got off of a 05 cr250r track set up everything re done bought it that way was a beautiful bike but compared to the ktm stock it’s neck and neck handling wise only complaint on the ktm when you hit a bump going fast feels like the bike jumps three lengths to the right or left from the stiffness nothing that can’t be fixed again my cr was fully re done frame up so hard to compare fully built and stock even being much older the gearing for me is the selling point the ktm first gear is longer second to third to 4th is a insane experience not used to the 6 gears yet but love it you can drag the bike no issue in the trails in 3rd gear no issue and the power response is instant love the e start fuel injection lightweight big power and these ktm 2 strikes hit 4 stroke hours on each rebuild safe to say I ride orange now

Awesome review! I've only got a few hours on mine, but love it so far. The trails look amazing up there! Where is it?

1:20 Regardless of how the suspension rides, an air fork has no place in the forest. One blown fork seal and its the end of the trail... They're an MX only fork.

Nice riding and thnx for the content. What kind of camera angle/FOV used? Ty

Just found your channel. Love it! What pressure are you running in your forks?

You didn't mention the 250 vs300 since you have tried both....I would be tempted to try the 250 if I was to ever buy one

You're going to say it's the best bike kTM has ever produced? How many hours do you have and is this the only terrain you ride? Which models have you OWNED before this one?

you in Washington or Oregon.? you Guys have the Most beautiful Trails up there. Iv only been Mountain Biking and Hiking in Oregon Miss it my mom and sisters are all up there.

What editing software do you use? Your video is super clear

What air pressure are you running?

And yet she had the Ohlins front inserts installed. Do you like the handle bars?

So 250 vs 300 in the PNW? Would you say the 250xc is more tractable (?) than older carb 250 years? Looking to have my cake and eating it too...

250 or 300 for hare scrambles?

How's 250 engine comparing to the 300? is the bike feeling lighter? I'm slow so i usually like 250 better cause is less tiring overall.... Thanks a nd nice video... keep going

So would you say that a TBI fells more like a carby motor as opposed to the TPI which definitely sounds different or should l say sounds learner not sure if you would agree

Where are you riding at? It looks amazing!

I have that same bike, haven't any spark plugs been damaged?

Can you leave it wide open like a 4 stroke without blowing it up ?

Hey bud there's a bunch of us out here stranded with new bikes that are knowledagble riders that cant get a bike that doesn't fowl plugs inane, 16 plugs in 7 hours. Please get some inside info on what the poblem is?? please help, had the bike 8 months never got a single ride. reflash, dealer set tps, using 7 plug, hundreds of dollars in plugs no codes, just blows smoke and plugs like candy.

If you had to pick this 250xc or Sherco 300sef 4t…. What would it be sir?!

I’ve see your 24 300xcw review. Which one of these would you pick? I have the new 300xcw but I’m thinking this 250 would be my next one

Beauty video. Can you tell us your camera settings please?

Just sold my 13’ 300 xc and the 23’ 250 xc will be my next bike. I also ride the dark jungle in NW Oregon coast. What tires do you run? So far the Shinko fatty of my go to for the front

250 or 300 for single track?

This trail looks amazing! Could you share where it is?

How does it compare the TM300?

Does that model run a linkage as lm still not a fan of PDS

Rider's that say it's too stiff are slow or light or both

Curious how much air pressure were you running in the front forks? Just pick up my new 300 TX.

Absolutely love the xc family however im very scared to go to tpi or tbi... heard way to many nightmares behind the systems... For now im still on a carb xc and feel the only im missing is throttle response. Ive just learned to deal with it though

Have you tried a TPI bike with the TSP head and injector relocation kit? Curious if that would give the TPI’s a little extra life. Cheers

I’ll say it: Slavens is like nails on a chalkboard to me. I can’t stand listening to him.

Where are these trails? What park is this? Is it open to the public? Place looks fun af!!

What does TBI mean?

How does the new 250 XC TBI compare to the 300 TPI for slow going in technical trails? Does the TBI give it more low end grunt over the TPI models? Thanks!

What mapping are you on in this video? The softer one or all the beans?

Are top end failures prevalent enough to be a show stopper for a purchase or are these failures extremely rare ?

Are we going to see you back on the orange any time soon?

I never listen to a review where the reviewer has a financial gain tied to his criticisms of a bike. If you tell me the suspension is bad while selling the cure I tend to think it’s a grift.

Just curious what kind of boots your wearing? Do they keep the water out?