2024 update: don't do this! Drive safe. It's not worth risking your life or other's lives just for an adrenaline rush. Keep it well within your limits, stay in your lane, and don't go too fast. This way you'll keep the backroad fun for yourself and safe for others--also you won't give car enthusiasts a bad image. Cheers!

Trackdays are your friend, please go have fun without the trees, they bite 👍🏼

I don't think it is lift off oversteer. You just got the weight off the suspension over the crest and then the small amount of steering input you did have took hold when the weight came back down on the front tires. If you had the throttle on and that happened it would have been ALOT worse.

I'm actually really surprised by what happened. I thought for sure it would be mid bend but understand why it happened. Lifting off before the crest shifted the weight to the front, then going over the crest the rear gets even lighter so it crept a little. You did will to catch it due to how unexpected it was. It's difficult to react to these sudden, unexpected moments and you honestly did well. Glad to hear you're OK and have learned from it.

This is basically how my dad came very close to dying and now has lifelong injuries. Lift off over steer over a cresting corner. Car snapped around and sent him into a telephone pole and then a barbed wire fence (notable, given it was in a convertible). I had never seen so much blood in my life. Drive safe.

I actually lost my S2000 in a similar situation; I wasn't speeding and I knew the road well, but it had just stopped sprinkling and the roads were damp with some dry patches. I was coming into a downward corkscrew (to the right and then left), slowed down before the turn, the weight shifted to the front, I felt the rear get light, it hit a slick spot and snapped around, I went full lock to the left, the front lost traction and plowed through the turn into a guardrail, the rear spun 180 degrees and slid backwards across the road, sideswiping the opposite. guardrail. The previous owner had also lowered the car and I think the stiffer springs and change in suspension geometry made the car ever more twitchy and unstable. Mind you, the SUV in front of me was going faster than me and had no issues 😅 So, a combination of things struck all at once and resulted in one of the biggest heartbreaks of my life. The car was totaled and insurance didn't cover it, so I sold the car at a huge loss and have never been able to afford another S2000. At least the guy I sold it to was a collision repair specialist and completely restored the car, so hopefully it's still on the road somewhere. Every time I see an S2000 in the wild, my heart pangs.

The AP1's will snap loose in a heartbeat with oversteer & being in to low of a gear going around a corner, can wheel hop. Too much torque for the tires to stick. I know, I wrecked an AP1 on a mountain 17 years ago. The AP2's are MUCH safer with 'VSA' standard. When your brain & foot & hands screw up, it can usually correct the mistake(s). By cutting the throttle (drive by wire), each individual brake can brake in whatever scenario required to correct the yaw. 50% left rear brake, 75% right rear, 50% front left, 40% front right, etc. They also come with a beefier rear stabilizer. You can turn VSA off, but I wouldn't recommend it unless on a track. It's saved me a bunch of times. Overreacts sometimes, but would rather have it do that then wait to long.. AP2 wrecks are much less then AP1's..

save you time 0:28

Let's also take note that there is a small small angle incline right before he almost loses control. If the springs and dampeners aren't set right, your tires could have not kept its point of contact with the ground, but I'm just a learning person so take it with a grain of salt

The AP 1 is prone to that but the AP2 is more docile, also or seams u need to be heel n towing, or downshifting later down in the revs, for extra precautions

S2K owner. I seek out videos like this sometimes to remind myself to back off.

That's a scary situation. It's all good to have a little fun on the street... but best to go to autocross or track day for yours and your car's safety!

Fellow S2k owner here. Ap2. I don’t have any technical advice so I’ll just leave this. YIKES! Glad that need ok. Be careful bro. On second thought I will agree that I go slow over risers and jumps I can’t see over. This has saved me from a few shetchy moves. Other than that I pretty much drive as fast as you are going there.

That's not lift off oversteer but glad you didn't ditch!

Fortunately that was only a close call and you've lived to learn. We all had to come close to these kinds of situation to understand the limits of not only our cars, but the roads we're on. People shouldn't flame this guy, most of us have done something similar and learned from it. Glad you made changes and don't stop enjoying your s2000.

Props to good Control without panic. For average driver that could have end a lot worst.

Almost Every time i overestimate cars… i did not expect this also. But if you did know the route well that was not very smart.

I'm going to be a bit harsh, but try to not take it personally, this could keep you alive. We all share the roads, and I want you to be a good driver for everyone's sake. But first off, you're over-driving those tires. Drive within the abilities of yourself and your car. If your abilities are awesome, get better tires. Second, you're on public roads and it appears you are a VERY new driver. When it comes to areas where you can't see what's around the next curve or hill, prepare for that by slowing down. It doesn't take any of the fun out of it, and actually can be more fun to accelerate once you pull out of the corner. Your visibility is horrible in some places, and it looks like you are not familiar with this road at all. You can get familiar with a road first a few times, and learn the curves and challenges a bit. Know where the driveways and intersections are, pay attention to the time of day when people might be out more. Don't drive fast when the sun reduces your vision. It sounds like common sense, but I promise it's not. Third, something appears to be wrong with that car's setup besides the tires. Has it been in an accident and possibly not repaired correctly? I would get that checked out. Pay a professional at a track maybe you figure out what is wrong. And I would do that after an alignment and better tires. Fourth, don't be too proud to get lessons on handling your car. A lot of people die because we think we are such amazing drivers. Learn on the track first, and ideally only drive that way there. All of this advice comes from many of my own mistakes, and if someone gave me this advice a long time ago, I probably would have ignored it like you might ignore mine. But it's there if you want it. I don't in any way think I'm better than you.

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Glad to see you’re safe buddy. When it comes to public roads like these, especially if they’re surrounded by trees, I think it’s best to play it safe. Unless you have the aerodynamics of a F1 car or your car’s heavy enough so it’s basically stuck on the ground, slowing down on hills is the best thing you can do. It’s the same reason why people kept crashing on areas such like Quiddelbacher-Höhe, Schwedenkreuz, and Fuchsröhre in the Nurburgring.

Nice work on adding the stiff front swaybar, will help a lot. Do you have a rear wing fitted? If not, it would be well worth it.

I learned my lesson too. My 8th gen civic si had lift off oversteer going 110mph on a tight wooded tree corner. (The LSD in the front kept the grip on the front tires and the back end light when lifting) I instinctively put my foot back on the throttle and was able to control it. Damn, was I close to death.

that's not a lift off oversteer. the car basically lost traction due to centrifugal effect. Lift off oversteer happens when car cornering at its grip limit and a sudden lost of acceleration cause weight to be transfer to the front and rear wheel lost traction and you car "Over" steer than you intended to be.

sick ride though man, sounds amazing whats your exhaust setup/other mods that contribute? also not bad shifting either, you're nailing them

spun out twice today coming off roundabouts wasn't driving aggressive either, but noticed iv got a puncture on the near side rear, anyone else had massive problem when tyre pressures aren't correct? the car felt like it was on ice skates, was twitching even in a straight line

Hardly almost wrecking it. You had a small moment.

what exact year is ur honda s2k? thanks also itneresting phone mount setup how did u get ur phone there? thanks

How are your tires? sounds and looks like they lack some grip.

flipped my ek 2 days ago due to let off oversteer. Wish I reacted as well as u did too it

To me it looks like there's a little dip in the road before the crest. Hard to tell with the video, but that's what it looks like when you drove over it. Did you have stock suspension? Kind of surprised the car walked so much over such a little dip. Gotta keep your eyes on the road and anticipate how the road will unsettle your car, and input what the car will need as you get there, not after.

While going over a crest too yikes, your car became weightless and you had some liftoff oversteer. Beautiful correction, you were very quick to react, well done. Would have been just about the worst car to wreck.

Hey man! Where you filming? I’m in VA and I been looking for people who like to touge and not just go drift at the track lol

where is it in this video?

for fun, what tires were u using and how new? and temperature outside?

high revving NA for life 🔥🔥

Did you touch the brake pedal?

if you know the steering wheel is getting light, be careful and gentle holding it straight. Nice job in this situation, just please consider others, you are only human and can still make mistakes. Those mistakes could end up costing other people too.

glad you didnt crash fellow s2k brotha :)

I’ve had two of these cars and tyres are more important than on any other car I’ve driven. My first car was a 2000 registration and had very average rubber. It was like driving on a skid pan in the wet! Had Toyo (can’t remember the detail) fitted which made it feel like a different car altogether and then tried several other recommended brands, all pretty good. I now have a 2003 car which had OEM Potenzas on it when I bought it in 2014. As this was a fairly immaculate car with half the miles of the other (which I also kept another 3 years), I found them a bit more progressive and more chilled driving experience. Also, I’m very conscious of run flats being a good thing if I have a blow out at speed in an S2000. I’ve heard of these cars being tricky on a crest like in the video, but haven’t experienced it.

If you're commenting about how dangerous and reckless that was, save your time. I learned a lot from this experience about driving close to the limit. The car is a lot better sorted now (200 TW tires, big front sway bar, and lots of negative camber) and is a lot less edgy. I keep my speeds below 70 now on back roads, and I am very cautious of crests like the one seen in the video. Learn from my experience and take it easy on the back roads!

Yeah, that was not liftoff oversteer. I have an MX-5. Four things need to happen, (1) going uphill, (2) turning fast and expecting the rear to slip, (3) a road saddle that points inward and (4) accelerating into turn. The weigh needs to be at the back tires, the car has to have horizonatal torque down the center axis and the the rear tires have to be unable to slip. When this happens one gets the reaction force at the front tires and the car turnds into the turn. It is basically outward slip intended for the rear ends up going the other way at the front and being inward slip. My advice be careful. Because when it happened to me it happened on a narrow mountain road in a blind turn. Luckily, no cars were going the other way. Because, in an instant the front of my car was in the other other lane. But, I hit the mountain and got the hell out of the road. The MX-5 is perfectly balanced front to rear. So, if it cannot slip at the rear, it very well may slip the other way at the front. Going downhill is okay and a road with a saddle that declines to the outside is okay. And loading the car with torque in the yaw axis can be very dangerous, even with the TCS turned on.

glad your still here brother

Have seen the oversteer. The car handles well indeed.

I don’t even see anything happening in the video?? Time code??

Ik he almost crashed but the camera angle is perfect so Ima sub lol

I nearly did the same in my Mercedes. except it was in Yorkshire dales where roads are half the width of this 😂

One question as I'm inexperienced on high performance driving: how do you recover like that? Does the steering wheel have that torque that you get while drifting, or is this just pure luck and driver's "skill"?

Good recovery, but stop doing that anywhere but a track. There’s a reason it’s illegal.

Other comments have it covered. "Lift off" doesnt mean like a rocket launch LOL, that crest did you in. Lift off oversteer is on flat ground, when you get to the track you will learn it!

Any car going 80mph and approaching the overcrest with even smallest yaw angle to the road will have similar sketchy moment. Choosing to do so in AP1 - brave man

If that happened just 5-10 seconds later it couldve been catastrophic.

It's simple as you had too much rebound stiffness build in the rear damper.

blud saw the corner was too tight so mashed the brakes, then suffered from liftoff oversteer ong

i think that is due to you not shifting the weight to the front ( braking or lifting the gas )

Not lift off oversteer just weight shifting. Still bloody dangerous though.

That was a Scandinavian flick without the follow through.

Gave me PTSD, s2ks are snappy, good save

Where is this road? Looks amazing

Most fun car I ever had, but I’m surprise I didn’t kill my self in it!

You lifted at the top of the crest ....

Get some better tires. Sounds like all seasons which is not what you want for spirited driving

damn bro ive had some close calls in my AP1 but that was the sketch. I would try to remember that when driving an FR and especially the AP1, you want to be on throttle to keep the rear end planted and keep the car(rear tires) stable. In many scenarios, you may feel uncomfortable to get on throttle as opposed to lifting, but you will gain more confidence and grip when you put your foot down, keeping the car predictable. otherwise, you will become a better driver with this car, as long as you are observative and have a strong motivation to become a better driver

careful, the trees bite!

Pucker factor 10/10😂

Subscribed! I have been in an AP1 during a crash. Be safe!

Take care of the 2000. They don’t make cars like that anymore.

forza teaches you all of that before your old enough to drive

Well handled tho

What tire?

Wow. So impressive. You almost had to turn the wheel.

Yeah that could've been bad with those cars and that truck parked there.

glad you keep going!

that`s the problem with de S2000, love that car but...

Now that's what I call spirited driving :)

You don't deserve a car.

Something is wrong with your alignment or suspension setup. Your lift off oversteer happens while your wheel is straight. Granted it's at a hill crest and deweighting the rear so likely experiencing bump steer as you are in an AP1, which brings me back to alignment, you can tune most of the bump steer out. As well, throughout the rest of the video there are times when your rear is stepping out creating tire noise when there shouldn't be. So you also have a tire issue, whether it be compound, or old tires.

Those cars are almost as bad as mustangs. Death trap

just doing what s2000 do

damn imagine breaking the speed limit and endangering everyone passing by you, then posting the video on youtube.

*Any crash happen* All commenters: thats because you lift-off

brown pants surely...

Your going too fast over the hill. Tires off of the ground can’t get traction… common sense.

Ignore the haters. We all learn!

Damn watch out buddy. Come out to Socal we have roads where there's practically no other traffic besides the canyon carvers. Here's an old video my buddy shot but you get the idea: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/adSpZ7ed1diugY0.html

that's called a fuckup, not lift off oversteer lol

Weird, looks like my '20 Si corners smoother, quieter and faster than this!?

Think a minute about what life would be like if a child was in the road around one of those bends.

50/50 weight

You’re actually fairly lucky here, all 4 wheels stayed within the tarmac, otherwise it probably would have gotten ugly. But like others have mentioned here, do some trackdays 😉

If you got off there you are probably dead

Your hand position bothers me, that is relaxed driving posture. No wonder you almost crashed

your driving looks like fighting for dear life, not fun at all

Wow, that was so reckless and dangerous! Have you considered upgrading your tires to something like 200 TW? It can make a significant difference in grip. Also, a big front sway bar could help with stability, and adding negative camber is a good move too. Maybe you could also think about keeping your speeds below 70 on back roads for added safety. Just a suggestion, but it seems like it could make your driving experience even better!

nice high pitch voice hahhhahahah

best case scenario: when you inevitably crash sooner or later you are the only casualty

reckless driver, take it to the track if you are so 'experienced'.

Bro why tf are you treating A STREET as if its a Time Attack at a track. Go to a local track day and then speed around. This is very dangerous compared to doing a few pulls on a street or 2. You are constantly pushing the car in an uncontrolled enviroment. 4 minutes of nonstop pushing the car.

dont go 80 over a crest into a corner got it

There was a bump(crest) so you got out of control a bit. Not entirely your fault but it really is an accident magnet. Drive safe and if you want to practice that one, try rallying.