Alpha Systems SuperFlex RV Roof Membrane Installation (Part 1) Disassembly & Removing Old Material

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Link to the Alpha Systems Products on the Lippert Website - www.loveyourrv.com/AlphaSystems
In this part, one video, I do a quick intro of the Lippert Alpha Systems products. Then I remove the metal flashing and peel off my 10-year-old OEM EPDM rubber roof from the fifth-wheel trailers living room slide out.
Thankfully the underlying wood roof decking looked to be in good shape overall. It won't need too much prep.
In part two, I'll be installing new roof membrane material from Alpha Systems called SuperFlex. I'll also reinstall and seal the flashing with various Alpha Systems sealants.
Disclaimer: Love Your RV! I received the Alpha Systems product samples free of charge from Lippert for the installation & review.
"The SuperFlex roofing membrane by Alpha Systems, LLC provides premium performance and flexibility for the increasingly complex roof designs of today's RV. An Olefin-based, single-ply membrane, SuperFlex is approximately half the weight of EPDM but will not chalk or fade. Enjoy brilliant UV performance, all while being resistant to mold, algae, and fungus. All Alpha Systems products are now exclusively distributed by Lippert™."
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@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

See Part 2 video Gluing New Membrane & Resealing Trim/Flashing - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a515g6lmzrnRiJs.html Link to the Alpha Systems Products on the Lippert Website - www.loveyourrv.com/AlphaSystems

@terryhaynes1596 3 жыл бұрын

You have the patience of Job and the get it done of a lion! Very interesting task. I hope I don’t ever have to do that ! You will have rebuilt your RV in another 10 years!

@louiseahrens5575 3 жыл бұрын

You continue to “wow” us with your repair and maintenance. Thank you.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Cheers, Ray

@michaelcunningham2899 3 жыл бұрын

Always love those projects that you don’t often see anywhere. Good start. Thanks for the video!

@waynecap5960 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ray for answering my comment about slide Toppers and I agree they are annoying in high winds and snowy weather.

@brunobarks6544 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for the calm voice my brother. Hope they wife is doing well. Can't wait to get my rig. Lol

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, she is doing pretty good, has been able to significantly reduce her steroid intake in the last few months and today got her 1st vaccine for Covid. :)

@alanjones9884 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ray. Appreciate your videos.

@OLDSARG57 3 жыл бұрын

A lot of work, and your just the man that can get it done.

@latergator3367 3 жыл бұрын

Bless you for attempting this ! And damn you work fast ! Prep work always takes the most time. Best Wishes.

@chad6211 3 жыл бұрын

Great info, installing mine tomorrow : )

@brunobarks6544 3 жыл бұрын

Praying for both of you.

@tommcl386 3 жыл бұрын

Good luck!!! I hope the weather holds for you.

@jimleininger8963 3 жыл бұрын

I bet happy hour was good after all that! I like seeing you tackle this stuff. Gives me courage for when/if I need to

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

It was!

@banjowoodsman7675 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the wood looks great under the roof membrane. Especially for it’s age. Thanks for the video. Looking forward to part 2. ATB

@desertdog2282 3 жыл бұрын

I believe your trailer will be lasting a very long time due to your diligent maintenance. 👍🏼

@glenschumannGlensWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Looking pretty good for her age. Sounds like a good plan.

@kracer19 3 жыл бұрын

What great timing! I also am about to start a slide out issue, the floor is bad , I think. I will be referencing one of your older videos when I start.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Here is the link to my floor repair video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idBkZ81-06-4pqc.html and the update - www.loveyourrv.com/10-recent-rv-repairs-how-are-they-performing/ Its is still holding up well to this date. Cheers, Ray

@projet2907 3 жыл бұрын

Wish, one big Job! 🙌🏻. I salute You and Anne. I left beautiful Victoria yesterday. Heading back east. Love BC. 💚

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Safe travels! Good to meet you! and thanks for the Quebec maple products. Cheers, Ray

@projet2907 3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveYourRV My pleasure. Good to meet You too. Til next time somewhere 😍😽

@timf6916 3 жыл бұрын

Nice, good job.

@55197A 3 жыл бұрын

If and when you decide to sell your trailer somebody's going to get a hell of a deal can't wait for the next video good luck

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

They will get a great video library to look at, that's for sure. :)

@locopixel463 3 жыл бұрын

I've ordered those seals from Greg's RV in Duncan before.

@otiskey166 3 жыл бұрын

And another well explained & published task - Thanks. BTW, you move pretty darn fast for the job. ;p

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. :)

@stuartstuart866 3 жыл бұрын

Ray, you’ll be able to keep your RV on the road forever with the repairs and maintenance you perform. Do you ever get tempted with the “new and shiny” RV’s? Our trailer is only from 2018, but I’ve done so many minor improvements, it’s almost perfect ...... until our next camping trip of course.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe once I finish paying off my fancy new 2018 truck paid off. ;)

@spudmaster8280 3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveYourRV lol truck!!! Good one Ray

@roycampsall9614 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ray, I found similar rubber seals for my motorhome on amazon.ca. Looking good.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Roy I'll have a look

@doughasson2073 3 жыл бұрын

Look at Steel Rubber Products. They make automotive and RV seals of all type.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, looks like a handy site! I love how they have all the measurement diagrams, bookmarked it for future reference. Not sure if they ship to Canada. I have a seal I found on Amazon.ca and ordered - www.amazon.ca/AP-Products-018-338-BLK-Slide-Secondary/dp/B00EZX0E7M/ I think it should work. Cheers! Ray

@jimbertrand2499 3 жыл бұрын

Mice job Ray. I haven't seen you beagle lately...

@DennisWintjes2 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ray! Like #358

@dankarau2307 3 жыл бұрын

Amazon has that seal...just ordered 50' for my 5th wheel!

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Was it Amazon Canada?

@naiiawahVideo 3 жыл бұрын

How will you get the part of the roof membrane you cut off with the carpet knife out? Pull the slide in some and go at it on the inside? More importantly, how will you plan on getting the new material inside when you apply it? Very(!) interesting project. Can't wait to see the next part(s)!

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, there is some space to work with. I plan to bring it in and remove the rest of the old material. Then I'll do the major portion of the outside glueing down the new membrane first and finish up the few inches of inside after that.

@bigj2345 3 жыл бұрын

Have you considered using a sealer product on the OSB to help it repel water that gets through? I'm thinking it may help protect.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

I'm planning to add some West Systems epoxy resin to the end that showed some evidence water intrusion - www.westsystem.com/105-epoxy-resin/ But, I'm hesitant to do the whole slide deck as I'm not sure how well the Alpha Systems adhesive will stick to the epoxy resin.

@spudmaster8280 3 жыл бұрын

In the vid it looked like you didn't get it all cut off. What about beyond the black weatherstripping. ??

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, there is just a few more inches under there. I just need to pull the slide in a little bit and can finish removing on the inside of the RV. I'll show that area in more detail when I do the install.

@AmericanJustice22022 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ray, good video looking forward to part 2! Btw sometimes people link to products that aren’t available any longer for whatever reason and your link for the hive tool isn’t available! Just figured I’d let you know!

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, that's strange it shows in stock for me - www.loveyourrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/hive-tool.jpg

@AmericanJustice22022 3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveYourRV good morning Ray! I checked again this morning and now it shows in stock it might have been a temporary think idk! Cheers have a great day

@im2crafty 3 жыл бұрын

I miss the beagle RIP.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it would have been fun to have the beagle running around the slide roof inspecting things!. :)

@SHRIMP11112 Жыл бұрын

Just peeled my rubber liner off. It did the same thing as yours. Took little pieces of the osb with it. Did you encounter any wood pieces sticking up from pulling the old roof off that might affect the new liner

@LoveYourRV Жыл бұрын

There were a few pointy wood bits here and there. I just peeled them off or pounded them flat with a hammer. The linear can handle a little bit of unevenness. It's been there 2 years now, and nothing has poked through.

@herb7877 3 жыл бұрын

You solved one great mystery I have had for ~5 years now; Can I walk or put any weight on my slide roof ? I've placed my hand on it and applied weight but it didn't feel real sturdy like the main roof... Then again, maybe mine is different than yours ?

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

You would have to explore your model. I knew mine had a 3/8 inch thick slide roof just like the main roof, I also knew it was aluminum beam construction so felt confident in the support and its been fine, If it was only 1/4 inch board and wood rafters I may be a little more hesitant.

@herb7877 3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveYourRV Yes you are correct. I'll have to do a little more investigation. Fortunately I have been able to sweep the snow or debris from the main roof or use my ladder. I just assumed it was just a sheet of thin aluminum under the rubber.

@SK-qt1rm 3 жыл бұрын

I have thought about changing out my slides roofing material. I noticed that it is secured to the inside of the slide under the facia trim. How are you handling that? Are you going to bring in the slide and remove it from the inside?

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I'll show that in part 2, should be out this weekend. On my slide there is an inside metal flashing I can remove.

@danajonessaltsman9427 3 жыл бұрын

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@RobertLowery 3 жыл бұрын

What is the life expectancy of Olefin? I see they have a 15 year warranty. Does the warranty require professional installation?

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I don't see a life expectancy, I'll ask Lippert about the install but I'd assume this product being on their consumers sales website is aimed at end users. They seem to be taking on the roll as an Alpha Systems distributor. Who knows maybe they own the company as well. I had a look at the Alpha Systems website and they actually show a 18 year warranty on the SuperFlex - alphallc.us/product-care/ In the details I don't see any mention of needing it professionally installed.

@brunobarks6544 3 жыл бұрын

3 years until retirement. Lol

@jameschristie4596 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ray. Did you happen to read the label on the oriented strand board roof decking to see if Keystone used OSB/3 or OSB/4?

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

No, but I'll take a photo of the label for you this morning

@jameschristie4596 3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveYourRV - awesome, curious as my 31sqb is a 2011 as well. The flashing on my 12-foot slide failed in 2018 and ended up running a foot-wide, self-adhesive EPDM patch from end to end to bridge the failure. Just coved it up from the original EPDM to the backside of slide frame on inside...problem solved. Noticed at time that there is dip in middle of the slide roof, so always careful when doing a Walmart stop over to make sure positive slope to ensure never any standing water on membrane. That is why wondering if /3 or /4, as 4 is structurally a heavier product. Thanks Ray.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like it is made by Ainsworth Engineered, here is the best pic I could of all the numbers, kind of worn off in places www.loveyourrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/roofing-wood-scaled.jpg I had a bit of a dip in mine too and now that I see the underlying wood I can tell it is the seam where the 8 foot sheet and 4 foot meet. I think I will add more tape underneath and build the height up a little more, try and even it out.

@jameschristie4596 3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveYourRV - thank you Ray. The Exposure 1 rating is a touch of a disapointment. This means the binding adhesive is only rated for during construction exposure to moisture, not what hauling down to Arizona and back gives rise to for protecting the integrity of the structure in the event of a pinhole leak such as you have apparently had. Not really surprised as our trailers were constructed as the US economy was still rebounding from the 2008 crash, when every effort was being made for retail price point...as cheap as possible to make the sale. But hey, at least it has CSA guideline approval...didn't really expect that from an Indiana manufactured unit. Your epoxy plan to lock the sketchy osb together is a great idea. I had my lonely, shop-bound truck out for two weeks until Sunday...missed the 15k adventure to Yuma...counting the days when it and the Cougar get to see daylight for the 2021 season.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

At least they use 3/8s. :) My rig was built at the west coast Keystone plant in Oregon. I'd imagine construction is even worse now, at least during in 2010 there was likely a good pool of unemployed to hire from, these days its likely much more difficult to find skilled workers. Materials are in short supply and they are trying to pump them out as fast as possible to fill demand. I can just imagine the corner cutting going on. I'd not want to have to buy now,

@williamsuttle3645 3 жыл бұрын

Is that membrane PVC?

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

It says its Olefin based. I've never heard of that before. Here is what they say: SUPERFLEX is a state-of-the-art EPDM Free Roofing Membrane engineered to provide premium performance for today’s demanding RV roof designs. SUPERFLEX Roofing Membrane is an Olefin based single-ply membrane that is approximately half the weight of EPDM. SUPERFLEX Roofing Membrane is very stretchable and conforms to the multiple contours of today’s RV’s in a clean, dust-free & chalk-free membrane. alphallc.us/products/roofing/

@williamsuttle3645 3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveYourRV seems cool. PVC doesn't mold to the shape of the roof- I don't think. That looks like it will outlast the rubber roofing.

@user-sb6xp6lx8i 8 ай бұрын

the rubber order from dkhardware

@LoveYourRV 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

@pigybak 3 жыл бұрын

where the water go?

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you mean?

@pigybak 3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveYourRV , the water behind you.....must be extremely low tide.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Yup always changing, day time tides are usually low this time of year. Here are a few time lapses I've done - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fcpyZ7d0vs7VmIk.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d7N1aZplnJzcqHk.html

@tenglundvideos 3 жыл бұрын

Be careful when using Epoxy resin's ? Not all adhesives adhere to epoxy resins. Im not nocking Epoxy at all its just a fact, I have experienced it i a couple of cases. I have a few years experience in polyester vinyl ester, epox resin & urethane, varathans, etc, etc Started in the mid 70's and still very active. My go to when sealing something like that roof would be a polyester especially since it will be sheltered from ultraviolet light.

@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice. I applied some West Systems 105 two part marine grade epoxy to a little bit of the corner and let it fully cure before gluing down the membrane. The membrane uses water based acrylic adhesive. Seems to stick to everything really well. I'll watch that corner and see if it bubbles. Cheers, Ray