Thanks for sharing, maybe someone else that thinks they'll never crash will heed your warning. I now ride with only airbag jackets, but when I crashed 4 years ago I didn't have one. However, I ALWAYS wore all my gear. If it's too hot to wear gear, it's too hot to ride, period. For me, same thing happened, while passing legally, this guy pulled into my lane and ran me off the road at about 65 mph. I had the best gear money could buy (didn't know about airbag jackets) and not one scratch - no roadrash. But 3 broken ribs, broken scapula and collarbone. But not one scratch on my skin. People, please listen to this guy!!! I bet he'd give about anything to go back in time and put gear on.

@@dbehr27 had I been wearing my Alpinestar jacket that’s made to be worn with the air bag and the armor leggings under my sweatpants……the pain would be much much less. The pain now is incredible. I hate to preach and preach because I didn’t listen to the guys that warned me…….but motherfucker wear the gear. It’s not a matter of if you will crash…..it’s when. I used to get so mad when my buddy said that to me. Fuck you im not going to crash. Lol. Wrong

Dude how awesome is it to hear it literally SAVED YOUR LIFE. 👏. We live in amazing times. I'm sorry you experienced it but you just probably convinced every guy on the fence who read your comment, to possibly save their lives. And then everyone they tell and so on.

are you a ♀

HOw are you doing today man? I'm about to buy this air bag vest.

He said 1000 different checks every millisecond, so they likely have 1000 extrapolated data points at a 1ms resolution, which feeds into the algorithm to make the decision. Things like calculated acceleration etc. I’d love to know the exact response time of the algorithm itself. From the first noticeable point of data (in retrospect) to triggering inflation. That would be a cool stat in my opinion!

@@_RefriedBeans if the data are interpolated you don't really gain frequency resolution or bandwidth in the accelerometer signal whose content is capped by the Nyquist frequency of the original sampling rate so you don't really gain information content with interpolation nor do you really need more time resolution given the reaction times. I work on stuff like that and I highly doubt you need 1 million data points per second

1000hz sounds right

after all, the bags dont even deploy until ~25ms

​@@_RefriedBeanslol that part he simply misspoke or misunderstands. The info is in reference to the 1Hz CPU (1000 clock cycles per second) checking the values of each internal measurement reading on each cycle and "deciding" whether to activate the airbag based on a formula at the end of each cycle. So it is 1000 checks per second, not 1000 per millisecond (1/1000th), which is ludicrous

The V1 and the V2 generations of the Atem Race Suit are no longer manufactured. Currently the only option is the V4 that is currently available to be purchased.

You need to look at the instructions that come with this regarding sizing (of the jacket you want to wear over this) if you order one and before using it so you can return it if necessary. The instructions imply a much larger jacket than simply an extra 4cm. The instruction manual says measure distance between armpits on jacket (I guess seam to seam) and call that B. Then measure your chest size around armpits (full circumference) and call that A. Then Alpine star sizing formula says if B > 0.5 x A + 12 then your are ok. Do this a couple of times and you will most likely find your jacket is not big enough. To my way of thinking they are saying you need 12 (doesn't specify unit of measure - hopefully cm) more than your chest size in the jacket circumference for it to fit. 4cm is 1.5". Alpine stars says 1.5 all the way around your jacket not just in total. They also emphasize this for leather jackets. So for the model here his jacket needs to be at least 26.5" seam to seam at arm pits or 53" all the way around. It would be helpful if they also provided a measure if using a tech air compatible jacket.

Nope, there is no monthly system with any of the Alpinestars Tech Air systems.

Hey do you mind sharing your story?

@@BySixa hey man, not much of a story. Since I last posted I had another crash and the airbag deployed successfully again. The first time I low sided at about 30kmph. Wet tram track and second crash I looped my bike doing about 80kmph. It would be great if they did a full body system so it would deploy like a Michelin man.🤣

There is a demo of a off road version that is different from this one

There was an off-road specific one launched at the last Dakar race that will be there go-to option in that realm. Still TBD on official launch for it though.

It does not nor the one from Dainese. It seems it’s a sacrifice they had to do to keep them small enough to be worn under any jacket. If you want neck protection you’ll need one that can only be worn on top. The only electronic on top airbag with neck protection I’ve seen is the eTurtle from Helite but it’s still not available in the US.

@@AndresArrieta the one by Klim that goes under the jacket has neck support though not quite as much as hellite which takes advantage of being outside the jacket

Yes, it DOES provide neck support! It inflates around the clavicle so it becomes much harder for your neck to perform lash-like movements.

@@aikidokamks Awesome that's really good to know!

Shockingly overlooked point. Without neck protection anything is a pass for me. I feel like if it had decent neck protection, they would be promoing that too.

I'm also surprised that this only gives you CE level 2 protection rating. So there's really no difference between one of these and having CE 2 shoulder, back, chest pads plus a neck brace? Just without the bulk until you need it?

@@998RC that’s because the EU doesn’t have a rating system for airbags lol. It’s CE2 because that’s all it can be. It’s obviously better protection than just pads - that’s why they became mandatory in motoGP and are starting to head that way in armature leagues in some places too.

No, the phone does not need to be within the vicinity of the vest for the vest to be activated in the event of a crash.

Tech race can only be used with tech air jackets. $300 for a repack vs $180. In race mode the Tech race can deploy twice before repack vs tech 5 is only one time before a repack. If you have one of the very high end Alpinestars or RS Taichi suits the tech race installs behind the liner. Basically if you are an Alpine stars fan that only wears their gear, get the tech race

What Michael said is a great summary - the only part I will add is that with the Tech Air Race you also get the LED lights on the sleeve of the Race Suit to be able to quick-glance the status of the vest. Curious to see where the Tech Air Race line goes in the future though for sure.

Would not do that. Vest is not going to deploy all the time. Back protector you can remove, shoulder armor no.

You remove the back and chest protectors, but leave the shoulder and elbow.

@@bp7178 hello why keeping the shoulders protections since the jacket offer shoulder protection ?

Yeah, Alpinestars designed the airbag to replace the need for Chest / Back / Shoulder armor.

​@RevZilla is that recommended though? Should i remove my back protector or does it just mean I'm fine to use this instead

Last we heard they were still working on an update for android users, but that might be something worth reaching out to Alpinestars directly about to ask for a timeline.

Mine was painfully slow and would freeze in the middle. I think i tried updating about 10 times before eventually getting it completed.

Yes

Removing the shoulder armor of your jacket is usually recommended, since the airbag takes over the protection in that area. Although, if the armor is thin enough you can leave it in too.

For that price you should sleep in it too :-D Sorry could not help myself… :P

@@freezersk my life and safety doesn’t have a price.

Bro ofc, otherwise why buy it

Can you go fast on bumps without it deploying?

@@UWfalcin absolutely

I think you may have misheard - after the 3rd deployment - the Airbag itself (the internals) need to be replaced and Alpinestars does that for around $300 (along with the canister). The rest of the vest, as long as not damaged in one of your 3 crashes, is still fine to continue using. So they do have reasonably priced replacements should you continue to crash.

@@RevZilla Ok thanks... LOL on "continue to crash" .... the worlds best racers "continue to crash"..

I use it without the app. No recording. Ever