Altra Escalante 4 & Escalante Racer 2 Review

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Hey everyone! Welcome back to our channel. Today, we're thrilled to bring you a comprehensive preview of the latest updates on two beloved running shoes: the Altra Escalante 4 and the Escalante Racer 2! It's been a minute since these shoes underwent any changes, so we're excited to dive deep into the long-awaited improvements. The Escalante has been a game changer in the running world, not only for Altra but for our shop as well. It's been an industry favorite, introducing many to its incredible energy-returning midsole. Over the years, we've seen various changes to the shoe-some good, some not so much. But with this latest update, we believe Altra has nailed it. Thanks for tuning in!
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0:00 Intro
0:24 Escalante 4 & Racer 2 Specs
0:42 Escalante 4 History
1:45 Escalante 3 Comparison
3:23 Escalante 4 Fit & Feel
4:55 Escalante Racer 2
5:50 Racer 2 Fit and Feel
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@ddawson100 7 күн бұрын

Thanks for the great reviews of the various versions of the Escalante shoes over the years!

@BAMK 2 ай бұрын

Was definitely looking forward to this review!

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for checking it out!

@didkochanell 2 ай бұрын

I wish they didnt change the 2.5, best altra shoe ever

@stevenglen5971 2 ай бұрын

Even the 1.5 was brilliant

@notgoingtodoit 2 ай бұрын

1.5 and 2.5 were really the best versions of the Escalante.

@wolfeadventures 2 ай бұрын

Most comfortable shoe ever. Just couldn’t get more than 250 miles before the tread was gone.

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

We also loved the Escalante 2.5. It was definitely one of our favorites.

@shashi566 2 ай бұрын

2.5?? The worst shoe of all time. I got severe Achilles tendon problems in this shoe. Only in this one. The only one was the 1.5. The 3 was a bit better than its predecessors, but it was an energy killer and heavy as lead. I also got knee pain in the 3 (on one side). The 3 felt "sluggish" in my opinion. When trying on the 4, I noticed that the sole is thicker than the 1.5 (of course), but it already feels as if Altra has achieved the miracle of restoring the cushioning/responsiveness of the 1.5, which would be a sensation. Especially in conjunction with the much better upper material of the 4. The weight of the 4 will soon come close to the 1.5: 260 grams (the 1.5 weighs 250 grams).

@Theo_1984 2 ай бұрын

Never tried Altras but liking this video just for you singing Escalante!

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support!

@jimjurek7911 2 ай бұрын

E4 Back to OG thin tongue, more forgiving upper, Midsole is overall more flexible unlike the 3 that had a defined flex point, and the biggest thing is the 4 didn't gusset the tongue at the bottom two eyelets like the 3 did. The 4 also had a slight sidewall added to keep people on the platform and not slide off like lots did in the 2.5.

@Flakmoney 24 күн бұрын

The 3's were my first pair of Altra's and i loved them for the roomy toebox. As you mentioned though, after about 150 miles of running, the cushioning felt done and they've turned into my causual walkers. Been debating on these or the torin's for my next road shoe.

@bigbrowntrout1 2 ай бұрын

Pretty stoked for the release of the racer 2, been a huge fan of the racer over the years and do think it's time for a minimal refresh but happy they're keeping it close to it's roots! Thanks for the vid

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! We're happy to hear that you like the Racer line of the Escalante.

@DeqzNW 2 ай бұрын

Im 90kg and 6ft4, constant issues with foot pain, knee pain and back pain as a result of wrong shoes. Tried Escalante 3's a month ago and all pain has gone, really a game changer and running is fun and no longer painful again!

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

Glad to hear the Escalante 3 is working out for you! If you ever feel like sometime down the road you still have foot or knee pain after some time, we recommend trying out a supportive insole. A lot of foot, ankle, knee, and hip pains can be alleviated with extra support.

@Murphy2043 2 ай бұрын

I recently got my Escalante Racer 2 from the Altra website. I didn't run in them. After putting them on, I noticed they were stiffer than the original Racer, of which I have a pair I bought in 2022 with low mileage on them. The original was more flexible right out of the box, but the 2 is stiffer and more dependent on toe spring so I'm going to return it. It looks better than the original, and I don't know if there are advantages like durability with the new midsole, but I'd rather not take the chance. I notice it's slightly higher too - I'm not sure if there was compression with my originals, if the original was slightly under 22 mm, or if these are slightly over.

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

The new Escalante Racer has a slightly firmer cushioning. Both the Racer 2 and Racer measure at 22mm stack height. The softer cushion most likely got compressed, whereas the firmer midsole held its form better. We have found that, while it is called the Racer, the Escalante Racer 2 feels too sluggish to be in the faster race category. A lot of people who get this shoe from our store like it solely because it's even more minimal in the stack height compared to the standard Escalante 4.

@markregan1217 2 ай бұрын

I was really disappointed with the 3, Escalante was always my go to shoe. I agree with your analysis and after 100 miles or so I decommissioned them to a casual walk around shoe. I'll have to try the 4 - I also have an old pair of Escalante NYC Marathon shoes I race in, to me putting on my team singlet, racing shorts and shoes I feel faster even though my fast days are long gone it's fun. THX

@jamesboothe6804 2 ай бұрын

Currently in the 30 day test window with Escalante 4. I had the original Escalante, then 1.5, then 2.5. Purposefully skipped 3 for all the commentary on it. Been waiting for the 4 to release and I’m conflicted. It’s just okay. Was hoping for that flexible, light, snappy shoe. At times it feels okay but chunkier in heel than my Escalantes of the past. Just wish they’d keep a good thing a good thing. 😢

@formulaic78 2 ай бұрын

Man you Americans are so lucky with your 30 day trials! No trials at all of either Herman Miller chairs or running shoes where I live. Currently sitting in a Herman Miller chair I don't totally love and looking at a pair of NB More V4s that I don't totally love either, but no chance of a refund on either!

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

We also miss the Escalante 2.5. It was definitely one of our favorite versions of the shoe.

@stanmakowski1985 2 ай бұрын

Another informative video. Question, I know the 3 was the standard foot shape and you stated the 4 was standard foot shape but when I looked on the Altra web site it has it listed at original foot shape. Am I missing something. Thanks for your insight.

@michaellane9579 2 ай бұрын

I think he meant Altra's standard footshape. Which is their patented wide toebox.

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

Our Altra representative had told us that it's sort of in a gray area. They don't want to explicitly state that it is the Original fit, but they also don't want to say that it is the Standard fit. We find that it fits closer to an Original fit where it is nice and wide.

@stanmakowski1985 2 ай бұрын

@@RunMoore Thanks so much for looking into it, really appreciate the work.

@TwoBlueScrews 2 ай бұрын

I got these in yesterday and was very underwhelmed trying them on and walking around the house. I've had two other iterations of the escalante but had gotten away from them because I thought the 3s went the wrong direction. However, after getting out and running in it today, for whatever reason, it feels a lot more responsive than the previous iterations and I really enjoyed the feel of the shoe. With that being said, I also ordered the Topo Magnify 5s, they should be here tomorrow, so I could directly compare as my shoe that replaced my old escalante's where the Magnifly 4s. I will let you know which one I like more. Topo has really been giving Altra a run for its money lately, but one will stay and one will go. The Topo is going to have to be really good to beat the Escalante this time.

@robertlynch4839 2 ай бұрын

Would love to know how this shakes out. Loved Topos St-2. Don’t love the arch support in the Magnifly though.

@TwoBlueScrews 2 ай бұрын

@@robertlynch4839 I am keeping the Escalante 4's and the Magnifly 5's are going back. There is a significantly greater amount of rebound in the Escalante despite the compression on both shoes feeling about the same. For my size 8.5 pair the Escalantes weighed 1.5 ounces less. Despite the Escalante last being more flat than the rocker shape of the Mangnifly, the Escalantes still feel quicker even with 1mm lower stack height. Additionally, my foot has less inward roll with the Esclantate despite the fact that the Mangnifly have much more pronounced arch support. On paper, the Magnfily should be more of what I want, but on the road, the Escalante is the winner. FWIW, my use case for both shoes is easy daily mileage. The only thing I liked about the Topos more was the unique lace through the tongue design that keeps the tongue where it should be. Very neat. I think Steve @run moore said it best, "The Escalante is a slipper that bounces." This 4th iteration IMO is the best one so far.

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

Glad to hear the Escalante 4 feels much better to you. Not too much has changed, if at all, from the midsole cushioning compared to the 3. We have found that many of the newer Altra models have been beating out Topo, especially in the low-drop category after the Experience line dropped. However, it all comes down to personal preference. Let us know what you think about how they feel compared to each other!

@TwoBlueScrews 2 ай бұрын

@@RunMoore I thought I had replied, but yes, I ended up returning the Topo Magnfly 5's and keeping the Escalante 4's. There was significantly more rebound in the Escalante 4 than the Magnifly 5's, compression was about the same. The Escalante in my size 8.5 was also 1.5 ounces lighter for the pair. Interestingly, even though the Topo has much more prominent arch support, the Topo's had more inward roll. Despite being 1mm shorter in stack height the Escalante's were more snappy. The only thing I liked about the Topo better was that neat little tongue-lace thing that they got going on to keep the tongue in the right spot. Honestly, I think you nailed it, the Escalante 4 is "a slipper that bounces." Perfect for my use case of easy daily mileage. Next up, I am going to buy and compare the Topo Cyclone 2 to the Altra Experience Flow for my tempo/threshold days...any guesses on who wins that one?

@QuickQuips 28 күн бұрын

Hope the heel cup was better though. I liked the 2's heel cup (and durability) but the breathability and feel of my 1.5 was awesome. The 3 I tossed out because it kept slipping around.

@jamielionann9312 2 ай бұрын

I had one issue with the 2.5 and then returned them and It was with the tongue of the shoe. I noticed redness and rubbing from the tongue of the shoe (towards the base of the shoe)onto my toes just with trying the shoe on. I returned them and the solstice worked well for me. Is the tongue constructed differently here?

@hashimhalstead 2 ай бұрын

How have I not been here?! I grew up in westminster and used to run on Main St all the time!

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

We have only been open since 2014. Back then we were on the corner of Bond and Liberty street. You are free to visit whenever you find yourself back in town!

@hashimhalstead 2 ай бұрын

@@RunMoore Oh snap! That's awesome! Love to see a local business make it this long especially after 2020! I'll definitely be coming in next time I go to visit my family.

@Oliver_Nisgaard Ай бұрын

Is the 4 wider then the 3 in the toebox? It seems wider on photos and is listed as original footshape.

@lalaland2797 Ай бұрын

Which escalante is best for sprint training? Is there another minimalist, foot-shaped, zero drop shoe that is better for sprint training?

@sebna 2 ай бұрын

You are not mentioning the key difference, which at least was true for 3 vs Racer. 3 has some sort of plastic bar or other ways of stiffening the side of the shoe which is against what we love in Altra Escalante so that feeling of freedom. It was restricting and awful, pressing against sides of the foot and making it narrower. I read that it was introduced to prevent the feet from slipping off the sole while cornering for example. Race on the other hand was free from it and true to the original in this regard. I would imagine same applies to 4 vs Racer 2?

@Laotzu.Goldbug 8 күн бұрын

For someone who has a lot of width, especially in the midfoot, would you recommend this or the Escalante 3? (It looks like this one is technically wider but the upper is less stretchy?)

@DrBoombay86 Ай бұрын

What's the diff between racer 1 and racer 2

@estradaphotovideo Ай бұрын

I'm used to Brook Adrenalines and Asics Kayano Gel, would the Escalante 4 be too drastic of a drop to throw into my rotation?

@natashas4713 Ай бұрын

Not if you take it really slowly. Try walking a lot in it first, and be sure you are capable of maintaining a mid foot strike in your normal shoes for a while first before you change over and have no choice.

@nordicwilly6650 2 ай бұрын

The Escalante 3 was so wide felt like a clown shoe with way too much fabric in the forefoot. Thanks this channel (and Run Moore store), I ended up moving to Rivera 4. If you have narrower foot, go with the Rivera. Such a better fit and just a great all around, peppy shoe. Highly underrated IMO.

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

Glad to hear you're liking the Rivera! The Rivera is classified as Altra's "Slim Fit" toebox whereas the Escalante is in between a "Standard Fit" and an "Original Fit." The Escalante by category will feel significantly wider compared to the Rivera. We also feel that the Rivera is a very nice sleeper option from Altra.

@patternview 14 күн бұрын

Does the Racer 2 still have the same shape as the Racer 1 or did the toebox get more narrow?

@RunMoore 14 күн бұрын

The Racer 2 actually got a little bit wider we found . The Escalante models we found this year updated the fit to not be on the narrow side like the previous model.

@cvetkovicslobodan 2 ай бұрын

Amazing shoes, I have Racer 2 in white, and I can say it is the best shoe I ever had.

@joedannaoui9802 2 ай бұрын

EVA foam? I think they might have missed a golden opportunity to include a super critical or PEBA foam on the Racer. Simple? Yes. Modern technology? No. Think about what Topo did to the Cyclone 2. It continues to be a low profile shoe that is versatile at different speeds. It comes with a high quality peba foam amongst other features.

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

We would have loved a PEBA foam Altra shoe. Especially since they are discontinuing the Vanish Tempo. This would give them a great opportunity to compete with some of our favorite speed shoes such as the Rebel v4 and Mach 6.

@brewlovinrunner Ай бұрын

Topo is a better brand IMO. They constantly strive to improve their models.

@Julio-li3po 16 күн бұрын

Cyclone 2 is a good shoe, but too fragile. Got 350km on my pair, now it is falling apart with a big hole on both feet

@joedannaoui9802 15 күн бұрын

@@Julio-li3po good to know. Thanks.

@wolfeadventures 2 ай бұрын

How does the 4 compare to the 2.5? Is the 4 as comfortable in the upper and sole cushion?

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

The Escalante 4 is very similar to the 3. The biggest difference is the 4 has a wider, more breathable upper. The previous iterations of the Escalante were classified as Standard Fit. The 4 is classified as Original Fit. However, we find it sits somewhere in between. Compared to the 2.5, the Escalante 4 has a firmer midsole cushioning. This gives it a pinch more inherent support.

@wolfeadventures 2 ай бұрын

@@RunMoore thank you.

@Ian-dr4vv 2 ай бұрын

I just got the escalante 4 and it’s the original foot shape not standard. It’s way wider then my eacalante racers which are standard fit

@robwhiff3411 2 ай бұрын

Is this true that these do good for plantar issues and how comfortable would you say this is ? Need them for work Thanks

@formulaic78 2 ай бұрын

@@robwhiff3411 It's on drangelawalk's list of approved shoes for plantar. I have toe issues and absolutely loved the 2.5s. Just got a pair of NB More V4s thinking the even softer foam on those would help my toes even more, but not at all. And she specifically says don't buy high stack shoes if plantar issues (wish I'd read that before buying the More V4s).

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

In our catalog from Altra, they were listed as a Standard fit. Our representative also stated that they are in a gray area where they don't want to say that it's Original fit, but they also don't want to say it's Standard fit.

@uliseshernandez1228 2 ай бұрын

What about the outsole? More durable or the same as the 3?

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

It's hard to estimate without running in it for a long period. I will mention that there is less outsole rubber on the Escalante 4 compared to the 3.

@brunoumoffia6098 Ай бұрын

I’ve never used an Altra so I’m worried about sizing. My feet is 29cm and I use US size 12. Do I go true to size? Very important because I’d love to place an order for the Escalante Racer 🙏🏽😇

@RunMoore Ай бұрын

You should be fine with a size 12. I go true-to-size in all of my shoes to see how they fit and feel to each other and the Escalantes fit perfectly lengthwise.

@QuickQuips 28 күн бұрын

Tbh I size up one with Altra. I am a 13 with Topo but 14 in Altra.

@pieratobiassen4542 2 ай бұрын

Would be great with a pebax midsole and a low stack racer, and a more standard ego midsole with the original escalante

@jefreywith1f924 2 ай бұрын

That shoe already exists. It's called the Topo Cyclone 2, and it does not disappoint. Less than 7oz in a size 9. Flexable and wide toe box like Altra. It's a 5mm drop, but as the 100% pebax midsole compresses, it feels closer to 0 drop.

@brewlovinrunner 2 ай бұрын

@@jefreywith1f924 cyclone 2 is such an awesome shoe

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

We would also love to see a PEBA foam midsole shoe from Altra. This would not only fill the gap that Altra has made by discontinuing the Vanish Tempo, but it would allow them to compete with some of the more popular speed shoes such as the New Balance Rebel v4 and Hoka Mach 6.

@HenrikMyrhaug Ай бұрын

Is the claimed weight accurate? On the original racer, they are advertised as being 193g per shoe, but in reality, my Racers were 227g per shoe. If I am getting a new pair of racers, I don't want them to be much heavier than the originals, though their claimed weight is 249g. If like before, they are 34g heavier than advertised, I'd rather pass.

@RunMoore Ай бұрын

The weight in our catalog is measured at 8.8oz / 249g. The weight for a men's size 9.5 that we have on hand is 8.1oz / 230g.

@saiiiiiii1 2 ай бұрын

How does it compare in width with the Torin 7 wides?

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

The Escalante models are much more narrower than the Torin 7 Wides. The Torin standard width fits wider than the Escalante models as well.

@saiiiiiii1 2 ай бұрын

@@RunMoore oh wow too bad, I really wanted to order some. Altra really needs more wides 😭

@saiiiiiii1 2 ай бұрын

@@RunMoore do you know of any shoes that fit similar to the Torin 7 wides?

@DartmoorPaul Ай бұрын

No😢 Why standard fit?? Arrgghh when will Altra return to Original?😢 I love my 1.0 & 1.5 Escalantes but fell out of love with the Torin6 as it was too cramped. Where do I go now for an original fit road shoe??

@RunMoore Ай бұрын

The Escalante is _technically_ an Original fit on Altra's website, but it said Standard fit in our catalog. It sits halfway between the two fits, leaning slightly on the Original fit side. While the newest iteration of the Torin is a Standard fit, it is offered in a Wide. The wide Torin fits like an Original fit if not a pinch wider.

@DartmoorPaul Ай бұрын

@@RunMoore fantastic. Thank you so much for your reply

@KoIhara 2 ай бұрын

I don’t know what is going on with Altra in the last 2 years: all their road shoes are inching closer to 10oz or going over. Escalante Racer 2 is listed on their website at 8.8oz. When there are more compelling competitor models like Topo Cyclone 2, Escalante Racer 2 is a hard sell.

@jefreywith1f924 2 ай бұрын

It appears that way, but their actually not. Altra is using a sample size of 10.5 for men to list the weight of the shoe. It appears they made this change a couple years back. It's very confusing because most brands use sample size 9 for men. It would be a lot clearer to the consumer if Altra made this distinction on their website when listing their specs.

@KoIhara 2 ай бұрын

@@jefreywith1f924 that is a very strange business decision. It would be detrimental to how their product listing would appear. I can’t tell how much of this weirdness is forced upon them by VF Corp.

@jefreywith1f924 2 ай бұрын

@KoIhara VF also owns the North Face brand. In case anybody is not paying attention, North Face is putting out some of the most innovative and impressive trail running shoes around in the industry. Their using carbon plates and pebax in their Vective line of shoes. Just speaking in terms of trail running shoes only, it seems VF is putting all their product development and resources in North Face trail shoes compared to Altra trail shoes.

@jimjurek7911 2 ай бұрын

@jefreywith1f924 all the companies are independent... altra still really small, but also just had the mont blanc carbon release w/peba and carbitex monoflex plate... have you ever ran in any of the vectiv? The new vanish carbon 2 is also a top tier marathon super shoe.

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

We advertise the Escalante Racer as a more minimal version of the Escalante with its shorter stack height. We don't particularly find it very "racer" when compared to similar category shoes like the New Balance Rebel or Hoka Mach.

@bpg201 2 ай бұрын

Sounds a little underwhelming.....and this is one of my favorite shoe models ever. The original was great.....best ones after that in my opinion were the 1.5 and the 2.5, then the 3, then the 2. I still have a 2.5 and 2 model 3's with plenty of life left so no need for me to upgrade just yet :) But thanks for the info!

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! The 2.5 is one of our favorite versions.

@jimjamthebananaman1 2 ай бұрын

So what’s the toe box like? Wide or narrow?

@wking8 2 ай бұрын

Standard fit is wider, but narrower than their older stuff

@jimjurek7911 2 ай бұрын

Same as the previous models

@jimjurek7911 2 ай бұрын

@@wking8Escalante/torin has always been on the same performance last that was also created at the beginning of the company. That hasn't changed, but there can be some variance in upper materials in different models... like the Escalante 2.5 upper being too soft and stretchy for most people to run in.

@sfsadfsfwfwfsfsa 2 ай бұрын

It was wide and. today I sent it back as I ordered the same size in the 4 that I have in the 3 and it was so long (two thumbs-width!), I thought they had sent me the wrong shoe. They bent up like galoshes as I was swimming in my regular size. I have other Altras in my true size. (Women 9)

@jimjurek7911 2 ай бұрын

@sfsadfsfwfwfsfsa my mens 10.5 fits perfect in the 3 and the 4... did you get a men's somehow?

@wontondestructxn 2 ай бұрын

According to Altra's website, the Escalante 4 is an original fit.

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

Our catalog from Altra says that the Escalante 4 is a Standard fit. Our sales rep said the Escalante 4 is between a Standard fit and an Original fit. They didn't want to explicitly state it was Original fit at the time of recording.

@wontondestructxn 2 ай бұрын

@@RunMoore Thanks for letting me know!

@DevelopingNL 2 ай бұрын

Are Altra shoes still shallow? So much heel slip and the foot does not sit deep enough in their shoes!

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

That would depend on the model. We haven't had any issues with Altra shoes feeling shallow. However, some of their newer stuff is noticeably deeper than the older versions. Namely the Paradigm, Torin, and Via Olympus.

@GTE_Channel 2 ай бұрын

Hopefully the 4 doesn't suck water out of thin air like an alcoholic does with a free drink.

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

Let us know what you think if you try it out!

@LurkingDuck 2 ай бұрын

They kinda got lazy with the new design of the E4 than the E3.

@Seanonyoutube 2 ай бұрын

Lol how did your brain get from escalante to desperado

@ShakeITyEA 2 ай бұрын

bring back the escalante 1.5 and 2 :(

@jimjurek7911 2 ай бұрын

The 4 feels like a mix of the 1.5 and 2

@ShakeITyEA 2 ай бұрын

@@jimjurek7911 it looks like a slightly better 3 which isn't positive

@jimjurek7911 2 ай бұрын

@ShakeITyEA totally different than 3... back to overall flexible midsole and thin/ungussetted tongue... and softer upper

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

We also miss some of the older Altra shoes. It does feel like it's getting closer to the older versions, with a _slightly_ more pliable midsole and stretchy upper.

@TDMiller 2 ай бұрын

😏😏

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

👍👍

@madmantronixx7998 2 ай бұрын

Seems like Altra have become lazy and don’t seem to like change. Pebax midsole may have been a game changer. The 1.5 was the best version of this shoe hands down, and seem to have gone backwards. I’m now looking at Topo.

@jimjurek7911 2 ай бұрын

Why change the Escalante? It's perfect for what it is... just throwing peba into it would take away tons of its functionality and purpose.

@madmantronixx7998 2 ай бұрын

@@jimjurek7911 it’s had the same ego midsole since day one. It needs to change as personally I think Altra are now falling behind the competition. The toe box just isn’t the same anymore and the materials used for the upper are downgraded. The Altra Exp 4mm is another terrible shoe. Bring back the 1.5 which was a far superior shoe IMO

@jimjurek7911 2 ай бұрын

@madmantronixx7998 ego has definitely changed a little bit over the years. But like I said, putting peba on it would defeat the purpose, and 24mm of peba would pack out running, and definitely not be as good for gym or casual use. Escalante is more than enough shoe for properly aerobic easy daily training and nimble enough for track work. Hard to believe, but some people want to train easy and keep their feet strong and mobile and don't want a shoe doing work for them... doing an easy run in peba is like "training" on an Ebike

@RunMoore 2 ай бұрын

We also would have loved to see a PEBA foam in the Racer. It would help fill the gap made by discontinuing the Vanish Tempo. The Escalante 4 is a little closer to the older versions with a thinner tongue, stretchy upper, and _slightly_ more flexible midsole.