Rolo Kinz if they weren't a bunch of fake self obsessed bastards, maybe they would have brought him up.

Rupaul has brought him up in other videos. In regards to Nelson being a mentor to Ru. Love Nelson.

They talk about him in the other panel about club life with the boulet’s milk and James

I wish they would make a Mo ie if Nelson Sullivan and how he really was I instrumental in creating this life style as a vlogger

Coz they all where up them selfs and thought they where better then everyone elese Nelson was down to earth normal human

Formaldehyde?

she's embalmed already....

Sad

@@zzzboo290 💀

I don’t know much about clothes but my hair looks fierce

Rey Benasfre but botox got in the way

she rarely has much 2 say

They were helping her

yeah i think they were trying to help her speak and let the answers/questions etc flow more organically. she's more about just enjoying herself and isn't very vocal

Yes

why even follow the wow network if ur gunna be transphobic

blaine gordon You're not kidding!

blaine gordon maybe because she is not like any other woman. Women don't usually start off as men at birth. Amanda is legendary and revolutionary.

@@nancyderyl1 Can I just type something that will blow your mind? No child is born a "man"....

Nancy Long Amanda was never a man. She has always been a woman in her soul.

Amanda's the most expensive trans woman on earth. That's all.

He wouldn't have been on the panel, they always forget to mention the dude.

right??! i've always thought of amanda as this silent enigmatic glamourpuss

SHE IS! This is why it's stupid! They took away from her brand!

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Jessica ZED OMG I need reel like the new kid, where' s das Google, who is the guy left of James!?

I was the guy who went out every night and photographed these icons for many years, many years ago.....see my RuPaul exhibition on my home page: johnsimonephotography.com/

John Simone you were one of the icons I was referring too. I forgot to include James St. James.

thank you.....and for those wanting to see Alig.....see him in one third of my 95 photos that are featured in the netflix hit Glory Daze: the Life and Times of Michael Alig: johnsimonephotography.com/glorydaze.html

It's so sad, he documented some of their most iconic moments...I wish someone would produce a movie on him even if it's indie.

Exactly.

Why the fuck would they have to mention him though? They were giving just brief parts of their own lives not about Sullivan like shit. Sullivan only captured what was going on but the life of most of the Club kids was revolving around Michael Alig and the people on this panel. Sullivan really didn't do anything except capture those moments.

@@rogerarteaga2665 "Sullivan really didn't do anything except capture those moments." -Amazing!

@@wiseguy9202 Yes...the moments that were a couple of years and that's it. Not all of their complete careers.

Honey, It's Jo do it girl

same !!!

I read this as ‘I wanna be a druggy so bad’

melindamulberry Michael Musto isn’t super serious his jokes just come off as him being an ass at times

I'm not really serious, but I held back....trust me....ya wanna see the real John Simone? RuPaul & Alig fans will both get off on this....the morning of the June 2015 festival premiere of Netflix hit movie, Ramon Fernandez's Glory Daze: The Life & Times of Michael Alig......yours truly was the first guest on Alig's first live audience taping of the Pee-ew! podcast..with co-host Ernie Glam....and it was entitled: Special Deliver by RuPaul and Photographer John Simone....it really is funny, and read the comments....."I would kill myself if I was stuck in an elevator with John Simone." Note to Alig haters, you will love this even more, because I tell Alig to fuck off numerous times and give him the finger too....prepare yourself for the pee jokes: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/raeqd7dotKnSqnk.html

John Simone Amanda has done so many interviews, idk why her doing a panel now takes her away from brand.

I would eat that sandwich!

me too.. Kenny Kenny let me skip the line n the cover a few nights a week. I never paid to get high. was a good time for sure.

My photos of Nelson Sullivan will be included in an exhibit on his work and life that will be shown in New York and LA in 2018.

Like I keep saying watch the other club kid panel and they talk about him

@@johnsimone2770 how did it go? That sounds Awesome!

He should be mentioned just like Rupaul and Lahoma or even michael alig are mentioned every single time

They mention Nelson on other panels and also in podcasts. I'm actually glad they brought up Divine here though, because he really was the start of it all here in the US.

I think he has described being soooo horrified by the crime because it was close to home,in his world and still does not want to be associated to Michael a..It changed him for life ,he still talks to it in other settings,never reminiscing in fun.people describe Michael a. Approaching him after being released and Michael m. Physically recoiling .he gets "triggered" if you will.

I get the same vibe from Misto! He’s jealous of him but yet can’t stay away! Ligger!!

They both are.

Clinton Underwood hey Clinton lol crazy to find your comment here 😂🤣

Also looking for this and found it!!!!!!!!! LOL

Todd Lamming LOL

I semi agree. She looks glamorously scary if that makes sense.🙈

Without glasses from 100 feet away as long as he doesn't speak, meh maybe.

She's always looked very fake, on purpose. I remember seeing her in nyc club-life magazines and flyers in the 80s/90s, and she's always been very plastic. She just looks the same.

I think it's intentional- she WANTS to look fake.

Robert Poston without all the homophobia and transphobia

95% of the drink tickets I received, went to cranberry juice at all the NY clubs I covered.

Lahoma hasn't done drag in over 20 years.

GymTanTinderGrindr ProfilePic I KNOW! even now, there’s only been one sf queen on drag race even though there is a lot of amazing creative sf queens.

Back then it really was only about San Fran and New York

You are so right. I was just talking about that this week.

lol that's totally how it was!! you cant do everything you plan on doing

I went to NY dragcon and I met 4 people on Saturday and the longest line I waited in was ~2 hours towards the end of the day. Like any big con, you just have to prioritize and plan ahead and get there early. :) I knew who I wanted to see and when their meet and greet times were, so I planned around that. I also came from out of state and had to drive super early to make the train so I really had a super tight plan for the whole day.

cosmia my drag con this year I imagine will be very different it was blamed hastily last time

Hear hear for Nelson..no one would know yr struggles and bizarre fame within yr own group..no one without Nelsons video...alot of u made fun of him

Ru made slight lite of Nelson as well...shame on u ru

thrift qween

Daniel Pena I totally believe that! LOL He’s never been glamorous!

Hes always been a cheap bitch.

Duh, hes Jewish

The foundation is everything. I mix it with Dior air flash it’s everything

Exactly.

theres a good reason why they didn't bring that piece of shit up cause it just makes everyone feel awkward

AJ PharmD I just took what he said at face value. Everything Michael Alig did was crazy (as he said) and is likely more documented - perhaps he was just trying to get some stories out of them that didn't involve Michael.

who cares what this piece of shit contributed, he murdered and cut up somebodys son and threw him in a river, I think maybe out of respect to the family is the reason.it is bad enough he is out of prison walking around free.

well said.

It doesn't matter. Once you become a murderer and brag about it and have no justifiable reason to commit said murder, whatever contributions you've put into the club kid era, is forever tainted. I do think he feels guilty and now that he got himself together he realizes how much of a pos he was..but it's almost too little too late. Are people saying how good OJ was in football or in movies? No..ppl are saying fuck him he's a murderer and hope he rots in hell. Or Chris Benoit..he murdered his wife, son, then himself..ppl are not saying his name and saying how great a wrestler he was. No..they remember that he was a murderer and took innocent lives. Everyone knew Michael did outrageous things so I'm pretty sure he meant to just bring up someone that ppl who dk club kids wouldn't know who they were. But also fuck him..I'm more interested in James St James quite honestly.

mssta he was pop star wannabe! He failed miserably and turned to airing his successful friends out of spite and jealousy. He was always jealous of Michael Alig 's quick rise to fame while he struggled so hard to be relevant and famous. His envy is so transparent!! 😝💩🙊

I agree with you 100 percent but he is good and iconic in his style

@@kitterglitter7777 .... he has a very annoying voice though.

What the hell does that even mean? They're both in different categories. It's like saying Leo dicaprio is nothing compared to Britney Spears.

true dat

that's cuz you do booger brag.

Welcome to gay life

LOUIS XIV I'm down

Gabrielle Magana why?

I admit that she's iconic and looks great on her age but seriously I wouldn't want to look like her..

Gabrielle Magana Amanda is iconic, but she looked so much better back in the late 80s and early 90s-she was just so beautiful.

Oh, same!! Amanda is so graceful and beautiful! I usually don't find augmented looks this appealing. I think it's her demeanor. That's what makes her stunning to me. 💗💗💗

jennifer bennetts So do I. I remember the club kid days.

Fact up on London. Ever heard of the Blitz Club? Boy George, Marilyn etc were the original club kids

Oh really because EVERY fucking talk show they were on, there was Michael Musto. He coattailed Michael Alig like a tick.

He also partied with them plenty as well

Antonio Virgo I didn’t realize that until I read her book lmao

I never knew but was always curious. This is also the first time I’ve ever heard her speak.

Antonio Virgo learn your HERstory

Im 15 and from the Caribbean... Its all new to me

SHE IS GREAT! And that just shows how much her work has became a part of pop culture. Her being trans became irrelevant! Legendary performance and body image artist!

there was maybe 30 minutes more, but a lot of blathering by all of us....thank you to the editors!

It is odd

He changed

Michael is literally a murderer. What’s it with generation z and their romancing of mental debauchery and murder?

Mandi Musto never murdered anyone. And he was a little attractive in those tapes

yuck.

@Mandi: Uh...Michael Musto is in this video, not Alig.

Musto was not close with Alig he was a writer of the night life and he went were the famous parties and people were at that time its not his fault that killer was on of the ones he had to be around and 8t sure the he did not mean they were close because they were not close like James and Michael Alig were ,Dam u people need to leave Musto alone for people in the gay community saying we are all about love too many of u are judgemental assholes and I wish ubwere not part of my community and if some u musto haters are straight screw u guys also !

Pete Burns influenced Boy George. He wasn't part of any of the British movements but he seemed to influence fashion and culture at that time nonetheless.

@@thedarthflagger Pete Burns was in Liverpool and worked in a record store called Probe when George was a major figure in the London club scene in the late 70s

@@nikkisinclaire4185 i know that

Do tell James

Alig is a convicted murderer and i think he's slowly distancing himself from the club kid scene due to the fantasy everyone has of it being so glamorous but forgetting how much toxicity it had caused

I can definitely see that this kid was just told to raise his hand by his parent to make him famous...