Amazing NO OX ID A Special Report for Model Railroading

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In this video I will share with you and AMAZING NO-OX ID A Special report for model railroading. One year ago I cleaned track for the last time and applied NO-OX ID to the track. Let me show you how my track is working electrically after 12 months and address some comments and concerns about NO-OX ID "A Special" electrical grade contact grease.
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@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

Get a complete course on model railroad trackwork here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hNtppM96yNG5Z4U.html

@kennedygauger4680 2 жыл бұрын

Great follow-up. Interesting comments too. As for those who thought the first video was too long, it’s unfortunate that they don’t care for the “whys and where fores”, because that is the real benefit of the KZfaq platform. Please keep that in your videos. Not all of your viewers have short attention spans. Great video and relevant model railroad topic. Kennedy

@michaelsullivan3581 2 жыл бұрын

Agree totally! Couldn't put it better m'self!

@Gregg825 Жыл бұрын

Well stated 😀!!

@b1cates 5 ай бұрын

I got into the hobby over covid and installed a shuttle ceiling layout. it soon became apparent that frequent track maintenance would be required to keep the loco moving and considered ripping it down. With nothing to lose - even though I'm sceptical about miracle cures - thought I'd give NoOx a try. I was flabbergasted with the results; The loco hasn’t missed a beat and no more stuttering when accelerating from standstill. Admittedly it’s early days, but even in this short timeframe, the ladder would have been out at least a couple of times. Seriously, even if this reduces my track maintenance to every quarter, that’s a big win in my book! In case anyone else is thinking of giving it a try here’s a few of things that I learnt: 1. Less is definitely more, apply sparingly and wipe off excess 2. Allow track to dry for 24 hrs, run your loco for a few mins then lightly wipe track and wheels to ensure you have removed all excess. 3. Some of my plastic wheeled coaches derailed in reverse, I thoroughly cleaned the wheels and this fixed the problem but to avoid future issues will be replacing with metal. 4. My layout is flat and run a timed DC shuttle between stations and can confirm that the time taken to reach each end point (same speed setting) was exactly the same post application of NoOx. This indicates no loss of traction. However, If your track has gradients, people report that you will lose some traction. Thanks Ron, for bringing NoOx to my attention and it has definitely saved me from aborting the hobby!

@RonsTrainsNThings 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the testimonial. I'm glad you had such a good experience.

@ronaldfunk9428 Жыл бұрын

I have been in this hobby for 50 yrs and have never found a way to clean track that comes even close to how this works. I cleaned a couple of places on my layout before Thanksgiving and I can go out and run a train without doing anything to it. Thank you very much.

@TommeeHawk Жыл бұрын

I set up an analog n scale a month ago. I used a brand new engine and it ran fine for a month. I go to run it one day recently and it just stops and stutters around the track. It wont even move by pushing it. If no ox doesn't work for me, I will have spent a bunch for a layout that doesn't work. I will be heartbroken and will have to walk away. Thanks for doing this video. I really hope I find success with No Ox. It shows up here in a week. I will update with my results Update: I cleaned with mineral spirits and lubed with the no-ox using cotton swabs. I have never been able to run this slowly since I first started running. The train runs perfectly now. Thanks Ron! I am now a subscriber

@raymondbarcik2593 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the No Ox tip! I have 2 Kato Illuminates passenger car sets that I run and it would drive me nuts No matter what I did and cleaned the track constantly, My lights would Flicker. got the No Ox Id A special. I treated the track like you did and completely took apart all of my cars, polished all of the brass contact strips, cleaned everything with CRC electrical contact cleaner and applied the No Ox Id special A on everything ever so slightly. No Flicker ! Also takes lower voltage to move the locomotives, they crawl ever so much better! My older Locomotives fun better as well. I noticed after the track treatment, Run your train , as it gets on all of the wheels it runs better. the key is apply sparingly Awesome Tip, Great channel!

@RonsTrainsNThings Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this testimonial. I have found that the vast majority of folks have a very good experience with it. I'm glad you did as well. 👍🏼👍🏼

@ronaldfunk9428 Жыл бұрын

Just would like to thank you for this video,my track is fantastic. No light flickering Dcc operates smoothly.

@ronaldsmolinski8810 4 ай бұрын

Your videos are very informative. Thank you!

@conrailmow 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks to you my trains run wonderful now from NO OX ID. Its been 7 months and still rolling

@dennischerry4545 2 жыл бұрын

Been looking at using No-Ox for a few years, your first video finally gave me the technical information I needed. Got the No-OX and followed your instructions. Took a while to get the track cleaned then applied No-Ox . Now my layout is running better than ever. BTW: The layout is over 27 years old and the track was used when I bought it for the layout.

@gil6114 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for video. I just ordered mine from Amazon. Cant wait to try it out.

@davidallison976 2 жыл бұрын

I worked for a major telecommunications provider for 27 years. NO OX used properly will in no way affect electrical connectivity. It is a wonderful product for metal connectivity. The thin film is the key. I have used it on everything for years due to easy access to it. Only thing to say bad is, it does seem to attract dust and the dust sometimes sticks due to the film. Just a thin film will stay on for a long time!

@randygates364 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait for the 2 year update! (LOL) I took your advice and used this stuff - works as advertised. No doubt, that little tub will last several lifetimes!

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

Lol, test it will.

@shortybond7546 7 ай бұрын

Hi mate, thanks for the time and effort to explain the why's and where fore's of model railroading. I was one of those who was about to pull everything up because of stopping and stutters etc, very frustrating but I persisted. I saw your video on No-OX months ago and thought it was probably the best option. However I live in the Philippines and getting that stuff here is ni on impossible, but I had a mate in Florida who just got over here yesterday with my little jar from amazon, so I cleaned my track this morning and put the No-OX on the track and wiped it again. Well I was very happy with that quick result. The train went right around the layout with no stops or stutters. So I consider that as a winner. Thanks from Shorty.

@thomascatalano6936 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a believer too! Someone shared your first video on track cleaning in a FB group a couple months ago, and that was my first intro to No-ox. I learned a few friends were already using it successfully on their layouts, so I bought a little jar to try on my portable Z layout. Did one pass with mineral spirits to clean, and another pass with a VERY light touch of the No-ox. Generally my Z scale diesels ran pretty smoothly already. But I was constantly frustrated with a little Marklin powered VW bus track inspection vehicle. This thing is smaller than the tip of my pinky and lighter than a feather! In the past, it would continually stall at various points on my layout. I had boxed it up and feared it would would be doomed to the display case. But after the single treatment with No-ox, it ran like a champ! I do have to run it fast to keep it going, but it goes now, and it was a big hit with spectators at the meet last weekend. I was a little nervous to use No-ox, so I applied really sparingly - I may go back now and apply slightly more to see if I get further improvement. Thanks for sharing the tip!

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

First, awesome testimonial. Second, yes, you can't scale physics, so running faster is just part of Z scale. Third, sparing is the way to go. If the amount you applied works, I would go with it until it shows need for more. Thanks for your comment.

@EdKuligowski Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ron! I was amazed on how thoroughly the low-odor mineral spirits cleaned the black gunk off of the tracks in preparation of applying No-Ox. The tip on wiping-down the tracks after applying the no-ox was very applicable. I applied the no-ox with the finger-dabbing technique. I then used a white soft cloth to wipe down the tracks. I could see how much extra no-ox was applied to the track. Even after wiping the extra from the tracks they remained super-smooth. The tracks feel smoother than when brand-new. I can't wait to finish and run my engines.

@DRCRailroard 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ron I have been using no ox for a year now on my conventional tin o gague layout without any problems with traction on any of my locomotives whatsoever I did clean it with mineral spirits prior to applying the no ox and only applied a very light coat Even my post war steam engines run at a very consistent slow speed. I have found it does a very good job of providing consistent slow speed running with all my engines.

@colintaylor8499 2 жыл бұрын

I commented a year ago that the treatment had transformed my experience. I have a layout in a dusty garage and had to clean the track before almost every running session. My update, one year later - NO CLEANING WHATSOEVER - I’ve even undertaken substantial scenic work on the layout during the period with only minimal effort to “cover” track work, and still no cleaning. Can’t thank you enough Ron!!!!

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience. That is fantastic.

@miketate3788 Жыл бұрын

As a high school science teacher I greatly appreciated the role of polar and non-polar cleaning agents. I maybe a biologist, but I still get the reasoning you used. I have never learned as much as I did from the first video, Ron. Thanks!

@TheLEMRR 2 жыл бұрын

Got this stuff after seeing your previous video. Best thing ever. Trains run infinitely better.

@johnarthur6302 2 жыл бұрын

I’m a big “why” guy. Truly, it’s how I remember things. Thanks for that video, and the follow up, Ron!

@derekalexander4030 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ron. I just want to let you know that I think your first video was one of your best videos. It was very informative and needed the extra time to cover all of the data. I have recommended that video on numerous occasions to quite a few people and referred them to your channel. Thank you for doing the follow up and I’m happy that it was a great solution to a chronic problem experienced by almost every model railroader.

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Derek. Much appreciated.

@billbruff9613 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update Ron. Keep the whys and wherefores coming. May be long but certainly valuable and makes me a more intelligent model railroader! My solution for traction tire slippage is to double or triple head on the grades, and prototypically to add a helper for some trains. A friend says he solves the problem with bullfrog snot to recoat traction tire to gain geip. Again, thanks for going to the trouble to get us out of the dark ages of track cleaning.

@kencarrolwood7766 10 ай бұрын

Ron Your advice concerning using mineral spirits and no ox I’d to clean your track has worked like a champ on my n scale layout! All of my engines run like new and there is no loss of connectivity in my track any longer! Your video helped me restore my layout to its original condition! Thank you so much!!🚂🚂🚂🚂

@dakotahsmith5480 2 жыл бұрын

Ron I can tell you I appreciate your videos where you go deep into detail. I found a lot of value in your track cleaning video last year! But I appreciate the update because I’m currently building my layout and forgot all about No Ox Id until this video!

@ozmedico Жыл бұрын

Hi Ron. I too applied No Ox ID to my track exactly the way you showed us and it works just the way you said it on here. I haven't touched it in about a year and no problems whatsoever . Thank you so much , you certainly made me enjoy this hobby alot more now 😊

@sillywesties 2 жыл бұрын

I originally watch with curiosity, your ‘Stop cleaning your track on your model railroad’ then went about my business, then forgot about purchasing some no-ox ID. Listening to your after a year testimonial pushed me to purchase from your list. Now to treat each of my modules and stop that pesky cleaning after set up at train shows and OP sessions! Thanks again for sharing!

@dwightcrisman3238 2 жыл бұрын

Yup, since I started doing these processes, my track rarely gives me trouble. Polishing the rail before also helped.. this winter didn’t run trains rarely, and in this spring in my garage layout, dusty, etc., no issues when running

@mikegillespie4212 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update. We had similar results at our train club in Gilbert AZ. We did have a couple spots where the no ox was applied a little heavy. Overall we have been pleased with the results.

@beatlebrad5339 2 жыл бұрын

O wow this is just great!!! I do need to do this with my Track but didn't know how to go about it!!! Good timing lol... Are you sure you didn't come over:") LOL!!!! This is good to know what you think of it. I have been scared to do anything ... But I do trust you in it so if you like it well that is good for me too :).!!! Thank you for doing this wow this will be a big help Ron take care and God bless:")!!!

@mgb074 2 жыл бұрын

I followed your advice a year ago and totally agree with your assessment. I have lost a little traction in my helix but probably put too much on initially. Reg Adelaide Australia

@michaelsullivan3581 2 жыл бұрын

Here is an old and well proven technique for cleaning rubber. As a sound engineer I was trained to use 409 to clean the rubber pucks that pull the tape through a tape recorder. The reason for using 409 is that, by design, it goes into the pores of the rubber and LIFTS dirt, grime and oils up out of the rubber. I have had very good luck rejuvenating model locomotive traction tires using 409. You apply the 409 sparingly to a swab or towel and very lightly clean the traction tire while still on the wheel. The best way I've found to do this is to put a piece of thin cloth with a minimal amount of 409 on it across a piece of track and run the loco over it. I prefer to hold the loco at one end on the track while lowering the other end (truck) onto the towel. With a little practice one can get clean, rejuvenated traction tires easily. Of course this doesn't rebuild a worn traction tire. The traction tire has to be in great condition to start with! This technique just cleans the traction tire of dirt and other contaminates! Hope this helps!

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

That is a fantastic tip. Thanks so much for sharing it.

@michaelsullivan3581 2 жыл бұрын

@@RonsTrainsNThings Great choice of words. I was taught that "Fantastic" works the same way, but I have never used it!

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsullivan3581 LOL Yes I thought of that pun, but left it alone. 👍🏼👍🏼

@sharpenflat6002 Жыл бұрын

ArmourAll works very good also.

@tywright9069 2 жыл бұрын

I started using no ox on my layout 5 months ago and I haven't had to clean my track since and I run trains everyday

@johnmiller2880 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the update!! I am definitely trying this now that you have given the follow up. And yes I agree with most, keep the why’s in your videos. It’s how we learn so we can grow. Thank you so much

@TSmith-ns45 Жыл бұрын

Ron, you are one of the very best communicators today, Sir! Don’t be discouraged by nit-picky comments. You’re a fantastic teacher; they’re just slow students 😂

@ontheroadwithharveystumpf3045 6 ай бұрын

Wow. Ron, thank you for your tutorial and recommendation for NoOx. NoOx is phenomenal and your demonstration of how to apply it was absolutely ‘spot on’. I watched your vid in January of this year and still have not had to clean track since the initial application. Sure, i’ve had to re-do turnout switch points here and there, but that’s to be expected. I’m 69 yrs old and have been a model railroader for probably 60 yrs, and it’s no understatement to say that NoOx has been a lifesaving game changer in the headache of track cleaning. Thank you.

@mikedavis7733 2 жыл бұрын

After watching your video I ordered this product and I have to say I never have a problem with any of my engines. I’m very pleased with this product. I appreciate the time you take to share these videos.

@JoeG-firehousewhiskey 2 жыл бұрын

Lengthy and wordy for the correct usage is a good thing. Nothing wrong with knowing how, and why you use a product! Great follow-up and explanation video!

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe

@markdusza Жыл бұрын

Ron your suggestion about trying No-Ox-Id was a major game changer for me and I'm immensely grateful for your video. I have a shelf railroad around the entire front of my double wide, 9 inches below the ceiling and track maintenance is a major concern. I've been involved with the hobby since 1959 and am still learning. Go figure. Your videos and the work you put into them are very much appreciated. Don't stop now. Dusza

@ronellenhoy9341 2 жыл бұрын

I too started using this product after your video. Works great, contact & traction remains great. I too only had minor dust problems when I remodelled a basement stairway & some dust got into home air system. Just a light dusting was all track needed. So, now I’m adding 2 tracks around my whole room & even my wife is encouraging me!

@VSLAModelRR 2 жыл бұрын

Same as most of the comments, used it about a year ago, haven't had any issues with my electrical contact. I too am expanding and have been doing work down there but no issues on the side that I used your process. I will do the same on the expansion once I complete it and have all the track painted as well. Thanks for the info!

@steamy1225 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the follow up on this item. I used it on my clubs portable 2 layouts that we take to different shows around the area and the operation of locomotives was flawless . We cleaned the track with mineral spirits and them applied the NO-ox like you described and that made a world of difference the way the trains ran . No more stopping and going , loosing power or anything like that. now if this can convince the club to use it on the new permanent layout , That would be great. I've also used it on my 3 foot test track and it 's been working great. Thanks again for this information. I will test it on Brass track as I have plenty of it. When i build my layout I will definitely use it on my track. No questions asked. I even used it on truck voltage regulator connector and car battery connections . Works great.

@johnbanicki7232 2 жыл бұрын

After watching the original video and this follow up I will be ordering some of the No-Ox to apply to my layout. Ron, thanks for the follow up!

@joerivers1768 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for all of your explanation of the science of track cleaning and arcing. I appreciated all of it. Those people that complained about the length are the same ones that want nothing but super detailed RTRs on their layout and never built a single structure., and never installed a coupler on their own.

@SirVisigoth Жыл бұрын

Great update, Thanks

@kgee2111 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent! I too have the same results. Thanks Ron!

@Steve_B1950 2 жыл бұрын

Great update! Got No OX and use it... Thanks once again Ron!

@jhoodfysh 2 жыл бұрын

Nicely done Ron. Thank you for the follow-up, I appreciate it.

@michaelbroshears3053 Жыл бұрын

You always have valuable information. You can’t be too long or wordy for me. I had applied some areas too heavily and didn’t wipe it off well. Those areas are now up to snuff and run quite well. All treated areas are running better than ever. Many thanks for this information.

@joevalentine2048 Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear these results as I immediately purchased a container Because of construction circumstances I have not been able to use it. It sits on the shelf awaiting its use. Thanks for the update and providing the assurance to use no-ox

@marvinwimbush5121 Жыл бұрын

Hey thank you for the explanation on maintaining tracks and what effects it has on your layout thank you very much.

@RonsTrainsNThings Жыл бұрын

You may want to see my latest update: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdyEfJmS29O9pKs.html

@zwsplac 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for following up. I've placed an order, since I intend to, at the very least, put this in my staging yard, where I need flawless train operation since it will only be 7.5" below the main deck.

@drbbhiggins 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you did this follow up. Keep up the good work. NO OX is a good product. I tried it after your first video and it works. Have seen major performance improvements on my layout. The detailed explination in the first video you did on this subject was well done and explained allot. Thanks for these videos.

@ricklambert2435 2 жыл бұрын

I used inxo on my track around the room switching layout and it works , my advice get some you won’t regret it .

@kenfonda6757 Жыл бұрын

Love your comments on no ox or no loc. I am a retired building inspector and for years I inspected hundreds electrical panels and switchgear. To the point, anywhere you will have dissimilar metals in direct contact, a oxidation inhibitor shall be applied to that connection.

@RonsTrainsNThings Жыл бұрын

Yes, thank you for that info. I know that and automotive applications are what No-Ox was designed for. 👍🏼👍🏼

@Gregg825 Жыл бұрын

Ron...EXCELLENT video 😀. It's because of this educational video that I purchased my own "No-Ox-Id". Thanks again and keep up the excellent work. Very educational. I enjoy your railroad group as well.

@TOPWOP999 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha too wordy and long, whiners. Was a great vid ron. Don’t apologize. I use the same product and it works awesome. I run a ton of trains on my 600 sq ft 2 deck layout. I’m at the point now after a year where I have to to a full clean or the units and cars and then the track and reapply nonox. Thanks for your vid.

@DrEpicPhD Жыл бұрын

They have NO-OX on the Midwest Model RR site because of you.

@yardmaster1947 2 жыл бұрын

Gee, Ron, and a while back you had convinced me to change to Mineral Spirits from alcohol. (Heavy sigh) Missed your No Ox video.

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

It was the same video. Instill use mineral spirits when I clean track, but applying NO-OX means I rarely have to clean it again.

@vincenthuying98 2 жыл бұрын

Great edition Ron, think this particular subject is very helpful to a lot of model railroaders. Also, the feedback of your viewers added to the content is making this very item highly valuable. Definitely will start using NO-OX-ID on my layout. Although I understand why people would use an abrasive method after painting or otherwise adding glue or other sticky materials close to the rails, I would always prefer the wooden block method. Being a modeler married to my jeweler wife Camille, I’ve made our wedding rings from code 83 nickel-silver rail. When I see what kind of degeneration happens on this particular metal, just by wearing it daily, that’s almost inconceivable. First the base and top of the rail get slowly smoothed. Until they actually loose width and thickness. Eventually, even the web of the rail gets affected and thins out. I know nickel-silver isn’t the most appropriate metal to use in jewelry. But the amount of wear and tear when this material which occurs when used in other environments, really makes on think on why bright boys and other abrasives are even sold and have been so popular inside the model railroading world. So, your vids on micro-arcing, polar and non-polar fluids are indeed very much appreciated. This way of thinking on cleaning track is a definite game changer! Thanks 🙏 very much for sharing. Vincent

@Mr._Darby 2 жыл бұрын

I also use No Ox on my locomotives when I service them.

@donaldkormos5529 2 жыл бұрын

Was wondering about No Ox on the track AND the locos (or cars with track power pickups for sound or lighting). Did you put a little No Ox on the pickup wheels?

@Mr._Darby 2 жыл бұрын

Not on the wheels

@bobdutka1176 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff Ron. I've been using no-ox for over 30yrs on electrical connections in damp areas, electrical connections in hot rods, battery terminals of "all" kinds... absolutely no corrosion!👍😁 I'm O gauge and I also have debated the traction tire issue.. the conclusion.. changing traction tires is a lot better than non operating locomotives.👌🙂

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

I will be interested to know how this works for you with traction tires. Please let us know how it goes sometime.

@bobdutka1176 2 жыл бұрын

@@RonsTrainsNThings Will do. I have a lot of Vision Line locomotives.. Big Boy, 3 Challengers, etc. that are all quite heavy 15lb or so if they start to slip it will show. I don't know if it possible or not (never had to install or change a traction tire yet) if they can be turned inside out... depending on a profile I guess. Still a small price to pay for having fun!👌🙂

@vitale6633 Жыл бұрын

Thank You for posting this 1 year update. I too walked away from my little dcc n-scale layout as the constant cleaning was simply too much for an afternoon of running. DCC is very sensitive to consistent electrical contact. Will definitely give this a try!!! Any feedback on outdoor use? I'm going to try this on my g-scale outdoor loop as well.

@rdanscale3416 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ron this is Ron Very good follow up I my self used some NO OX ID but on my Turnouts we're the swing bar touches the stock Rail i did after applying the NO OX have to remove any excess to stop arching, But applying this helped my Engines move through the Turnouts in my Big Yard there is no O zero power other than whats flowing off my main & my Trains Travers well through the yard this stuff is so good with conductivity you could put some on each Rail Joiner and probably not have to solder as much you can use this stuff on connectors like your coil cords on your controllers or terminal blocks on the tops of my Rails I use Inox mx3 its the same stuff that Gregg of Fish Plate films uses when I asked about cleaning track he said absolutely try & not use IPA he said clean your Track with Inox if you feel uncomfortable using mineral spirits clean it whipe it with a clean rag which I only uses Rags that you clean your glasses with since they have zero lint whipe it till you see No grey matter then re-apply the Inox which i did my metal & plastic wheels have done really well Ron I've seen little to No gunk on the Wheels and my Scaletrains Dash 9 had just a slight hiccup going through one of my Turnouts I applied some more Inox and it's hiccup went away.. Something one's can do for there locomotives especially KATO's that use the Brass bars that connect with the Trucks put a thin coat of NO OX where the truck pivots not only will this improve conductivity it will act as slight lube allowing a smoother movement of the truck I did this on one of my Engines that the light seemed a bit dim after treating the area where truck tab meets the bar the light brightened up And it seemed to help the Engine run smoother... This was one of my older KATO Engines but all in All I'd highly recommend both products Allen D.. Never stop Model Railroading

@terryflynn8830 Жыл бұрын

Another great viedo. Your results are as I expected, even though I do not use NO-OX ID. I also have a layout under construction. I use a different product, Inox MP3 that acheives the same results for exactly the same reasons you have explained. The only difference is I apply a few drops of the Inox MP3 oil every month or 2 and it spreads itself around the layout. I have 40 years experience using the Inox method, in dusty enviroments. Minimal cleaning has been done on track or wheels in that time.

@birchcrafts7762 Жыл бұрын

Mention has been made about no-ox-I’d not being used for engines with rubber tyres. What is the reason? Is what you use safe for rubber tyres?

@SteamingPriest Жыл бұрын

I followed your cleaning advice followed by using no ox on the whole layout. It is still an incomplete layout. Before I used it my trains were sputtering throughout. Since I have used it, I can run the complet track at 1 on my NCE Powercab. This is the way to go for me and will be my advice to anyone who asks my opinion.

@joeybrownfield3143 2 жыл бұрын

Just ordered some. Thanks for the update.

@franssongs 2 жыл бұрын

Ron thanks for the follow up and that mirrors my experience. I have several hidden areas on my layout and I was a bit concerned how well no ox would spread and work in those areas. Well it works as good as anywhere on the layout. One mention, for those looking for some more of the science in track cleaning and what products work best, you can always check out the article Joe Fugate in Model Railroad Hobbyist wrote several years ago that scientifically compared the various cleaners people have used. Well worth the read. Thanks again and glad to know I’m in good company

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I referenced and linked that article in the original video.

@MrSw9guy 2 жыл бұрын

Thank You!

@stevehatfield6540 2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Was just going to ask how No Ox was working for you Ron! ...mind reader... lol thanks for the thorough original AND this follow-up!

@djlangle5526 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the follow up, your last video was great too! To the people who complained, just fast forward and use a bright boy for cleaning your track next time lol! Some of us are trying to learn, think, and grow, not copy.

@tyrinonbrightblade 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, don't feel bad about wordy videos. I prefer knowing the 'why' behind things. Sometimes you need that info for proper use of a product and/or to get a favorable outcome. I remember watching that other video and bought a container of NO-OX to treat the track for the layout I was going to build (it's been put on hold for awhile...). Anyway, thanks for the follow up video. Your outcome is what I would have expected to see. Thanks.

@RichsModelingTrains 2 жыл бұрын

Good Review. Thanks

@IMRROcom 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ron, Hard to believe that was a year ago.

@mikehowey4869 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful information.

@fireonthegrom2728 Жыл бұрын

No ox also works great on 3 rail o scale track! It got rid of sparking and the locomotive was able to run at a much slower speed

@ricklambert2435 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ron and I am also going to get some no.ox to . Thanks bunny for the advice.

@ricklambert2435 2 жыл бұрын

Ops I ment to say bubby lol

@bohemianh 6 ай бұрын

I ordered no ox going to try it! Running Marklin AC

@williamflowersrailfannerpr3808 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome Video Ron great job 👏 👍 😀

@stephenomeara4338 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Ron, as was the initial video.

@georgeott584 Жыл бұрын

I've been using Maas metal polish on my HO and N scale switching layouts. It cleans and protects the rails against oxidation and all my locos have never run smoother! I've used every method you could imagine for decades with mixed results and NOTHING comes close to the results I've had with the polish. Dab a little on the railheads and buff them off...It's amazing all the black residue that comes off. Just be careful around the switch points. I used to have to clean my track about every 3 operating sessions and now I haven't had to do it for 4 months so far. And I run both layouts a LOT. I just lightly run a soft cloth over the rails to remove any possible dust. Flitz is another brand I hear works just as well. That said, I may try the NO-OX at some point just to compare...

@medwaymodelrailway7129 2 жыл бұрын

Ron enjoyed your latest video some great ideas there thanks for sharing DD.

@medwaymodelrailway7129 2 жыл бұрын

Ron thanks very much for replying to my comment. That's the great part about the hobby sharing ideas and learning new ideas from other people to improve our Channel's. Stay safe DD.

@mikegibson7193 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!! I'm in the process of rebuilding my model railroad and was going to reuse the track from the previous layout. After listening to these two videos I'm not so sure. I had used extensively the bright boy and IPA to clean my track. I'm sure I have many "deep" grooves in the older track. Would it be best to use new track (which I have!!) or can I salvage some or most of the old track??

@redwoodcityintheuknscalera7179 Жыл бұрын

no ox id just ordered it non polar track cleaner good ol lighter fluid in a cmx track cleaning car

@AbelG8781 2 жыл бұрын

The perks of working construction is being first for the early uploads lol

@davidcurtis5398 2 жыл бұрын

Ron, Twenty or so years ago I had a system that was called command control made by Keller Engineering. At that time it was the only DCC type control I knew about. they recommended to use Wahl Clipper Oil to keep the track good and help the trains run better. For the time I had this set up, I used this oil and never had to clean the track or had any problems at all. believe it or not, I have a friend that uses regular transmission fluid (used sparsely) and has not had to clean his layout in the past 2 years. This new stuff sounds very interesting. I don't use anything as I have no track power and I still run my trains. I totally agree with your statement that if users of any of the 3 things I have mentioned cause the road to loose a significant amount of traction, then you have used just to much. With the oil and the transmission fluid we put some on a Q tip and place short rubs along several areas of the road. Then when the train runs over these areas, it will pick up the material and distribute it along the rest of the road. It seems that the substance you are talking about didn't spread to the untreated parts of your road as much as was my experience. Since you put a thin layer on and then wipe most off, this may be why the material isn't being spread around the road on the wheels of the trains. You don't need a lot of any of the 3 materials but you do need enough for the train wheels (engine as well as the cars) to pick it up and distribute it over the road. None of the 3 items mentioned here are "track cleaners" as such.

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

My only caution here is with the transmission fluid. It works, but if it gets on plastic models it can damage paint and make the plastic very brittle.

@davidcurtis5398 2 жыл бұрын

@@RonsTrainsNThings Not enough for that to happen. My friend has been using this for over 15 years and no problems have come up. How would the fluid get on any plastic in enough volume to do any problems???

@mycrazygrandpa 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update, if I may make a suggestion, in future can you please include those of us who run larger scale? I'm sure this product will be compatible with "O" and tinplate track, and could you help with the decision on products that help conductivity with track joiners such as pins for O, slide joiners for other scales, I think this would be invaluable for your subscribers, Thanks!

@sscalercourtney5486 Жыл бұрын

One thing I'm not clear on. Did you put a tiny bit of No-Ox on all of your lower track. Or just the bit shown in the video and then spread with your locomotives.

@patrickmurphy6775 Жыл бұрын

I have enjoyed both of these videos. When Fishplate Films first published his video on no longer using the well known track cleaning products, I immediately switched to CRC as he reccomended. Your videos have been even more informative, which I appreciate. I do have a question: I am running a Marklin layout with 3 rail track (not the center stud type). Will No Ox help with my 3 rail system? I am not running digital. Thank you and keep up the good work!!!

@jamesedwards9286 Жыл бұрын

I remember using no-ox in liquid form 30 Yr. ago all you had to do was clean rail With rag put no- ox on,and run trains, They need to make it in liquid form Again.

@antoniojmnogueira Жыл бұрын

Hello Ron. Thank you for this update. I'm from Portugal and I'm following some of your videos. My layout is with Peco code 55 track (N scale) and cleaned my track with 1000 grade sand paper, then 2000 grade sand paper and finelly with 5000 grade sans paper. Then I pollished with some metal grease and finally I clean it with WD-40 Specialist (for eletrical contacts). I'm thinking of give a new treatmant with NO-OX-ID special to have a more permanent cleaned track. On you advice, is this to much? Other rhing: I plan to paint the track. Would I paint before or after the treatmant with NO-OX-ID special? Thank you. Best Regards, António Nogueira

@mastervoni1285 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered no-ox before even building My new layout

@buskman3286 Жыл бұрын

Tried it but found that my postwar 2343 Lionel, pulling 7 of the 2500 series aluminum passenger cars would no longer climb the grade that it had no trouble with previously. That was with the very thin film as described in the video.

@peterkrause7700 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ron. I found it to be great, but may have applied a bit much. Noticed a steam loco slipping under not so high load. Unable to give a definite answer as I did not compare before and after. Needless to say, very happy with the product as my layout is in large open garage with lots of s#$@t floating around! If it becomes an issue, slipping, what would you suggest to reduce the amount of Ni ox applied? Peter

@chadportenga7858 Жыл бұрын

Great video (both the original one and this follow-up). In this video, you mention Woodland Scenics Dust Monkey, which is part of their Tidy Track system. I am curious, how do you feel about the Tidy Track for initial cleaning? Is it worth the money, or would you just recommend a rag and mineral spirits, now that you know how well the NO-OX-ID works.

@FlashJonesTrains 2 жыл бұрын

Well you've convinced me sir. I'll be trying this out on my layout. Question though, what do you recommend modelers to use to clean the track prior to the application of the no ox id?

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

Mineral spirits is my cleaner of choice. I discussed cleaners at length in the first video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oqiJq82Uub2ncmQ.html

@hooknladdr 2 жыл бұрын

Have you considered using No Nox ID on the pickup wheels or the commutator of locomotive motors?

@schadowolf 2 жыл бұрын

Ron - Great follow up, I watched the initial video as well. From your experience/research, how often do you have to re-apply No-Ox? Also, you mentioned non-polar cleaner to use initially (ie I have all the flex track I need for my layout, just haven't laid it yet as just starting). What would you recommend?

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

You may want to watch that previous video for a full discussion of this topic, but in short I personally use "odorless" mineral spirits.

@schadowolf 2 жыл бұрын

@@RonsTrainsNThings Many thanks! I slept since I watched that video LOL. Got it! Appreciate you and your channel!

@jlvaviation9140 5 ай бұрын

Great content. Subscribed! What would be your recommendation for cleaning agents? I remember you mentioning “mineral spirits” in your original video. Which would be the good ones? Thx!

@jbmorrow5390 2 жыл бұрын

Thx as always thank you for great content - so the other video was thought by some to be too long - well information sometimes requires details! Noone is forced to listen to the end! As far as traction for steam locos, do you have any information about the effects of NO-OX and BULLFROG SNOT?

@RonsTrainsNThings 2 жыл бұрын

I do not. That would be an interesting test.